Ancestors Nisbet of West Nisbet

Date: [unknown] [unknown]
Location: Scotland
Surname/tag: Nisbet Nesbitt

Oldest proven ancestors

according to Nisbet of that Ilk

Although the lineage from Sir Philip Nisbet (I) who married Elene Rutherfuird is, not open to doubt, it was the pedigree beginning with

Sir Philip Nisbet (VI) who married Elizabeth Haldane in 1582 on which the author's petition to the Lord Lyon King of Arms, recited later, was based. The Act of 1672, which defined and confirmed the jurisdiction of the Court of the Lord Lyon, and laid down the regulations relating to the use of arms and armorial bearings, was passed ninety years later. Arms existing in 1672 were deemed to have been the subject of an earlier grant.

I. PHILIP Nisbet of that ilk, born 1444, married Elene Rutherfuird, the second daughter of Robert Rutherfuird of Chatto by his wife Margaret, daughter of Sir Samuel Glendonwyn of that ilk. He received a knighthood and in 1489 he served upon an inquest held at Edinburgh. He was one of the representatives of the County of Berwick in the parliament held at Perth on 26th November, 1513. This, it will be remembered, was a few months after the tragic defeat of the Scots at Flodden when their King, James IV, was killed. It is not unlikely that some sons of the house of Nisbet were among the Border men under Home and Huntly who routed the English right in that disastrous battle. According to a later historian, Sir Philip’s second son, Philip, was one of those who did not return. The Nisbets had sent many recruits to the famous band of Scots Guards in the service of France, and it was to help France that James IV resolved upon the invasion of England. The field of Flodden is across the Tweed about fourteen miles south of Nisbet House. The last notice observed of Sir Philip is as witness to a charter by John Swinton of that ilk to Marion Home of certain lands in the county of Berwick in life-rent 21st October, 1522. He died in 1523 ^{[1] [2]}

II. ADAM NISBET, of that ilk, born 1469, eldest son of Sir Philip Nisbet (1) married Lucie Rutherfurd, daughter of George Rutherfurd of Hundalee. He was served heir to his father on the 14th May 1523. He supported the red Douglases in their struggle with King James V (1513-1542), father of Mary Queen of Scots, and on 16th April 1529, he, with his son Philip, was put to the horn for non-compearance to a charge of intercommuning with and assisting Archibald, Earl of Angus and the Douglases in their treasonable deeds. He appears to have met a violent death in 1530. ^{[3] [4]}

III. PHILLIP NISBET of that ilk, eldest son of Adam Nisbet (II) married (1) in November 1524. Mariota Hoppringill, daughter of William Hoppringill of Torwoodlie ; and (2) Isobel daughter of David Home of Wedderburn, and his wife Alison Douglas, sister of Archibald (Bell-the-Cat), fifth earl of Angus. The second alliance no doubt explains the assistance given by the Nisbets to the Douglases in the struggles of the latter with King James V. His two eldest sons, Adam and George succeeded him. Philip Nisbet died before 1535. ^[5]

IV. ADAM NISBET of that ilk, son of Philip Nisbet (III) succeeded his father. He died 1551.

V. GEORGE NISBET of that ilk, second son of Philip Nisbet (III) succeeded his brother Adam (IV). George Nisbet was a member of the Parliament held at Edinburgh 1560-61, at which the authority of the Pope over Scotland and the jurisdiction of Catholic Bishops was overthrown. He married in 1551 Elizabeth Cranstoun, daughter of Cuthbert Cranstoun of Thirlestane Mains and Isobell Hume, his spouse. Six sons and one daughter were born of this marriage. We are concerned only with Philip, the eldest son. George Nisbet of that ilk (V) died on 14th January 1600, survived by his wife. He was succeeded by his eldest son, Sir Philip Nisbet (VI).

VI. SIR PHILIP NISBET, eldest son of George, was served heir to his father on 9th July 1601, Philippus Nisbet de eadem haeres Georgii Nisbet, de eadem patris. He married (marriage contract 11th March 1581-2) Elizabeth, daughter of John Haldane of Gleneagles and Elizabeth Lundy, a family which is represented in Perthshire at the present day in the person of Mr. James Broderick Chinnery-Haldane of Gleneagles, the present laird, elder son of the late Bishop of Argyll and the Isles. On 4th March 1605 Philip received the honour of knighthood. He was appointed one of the Commissioners to represent Berwickshire in the parliament held at Edinburgh in October 1625 and was placed on the committee for the coin. Sir Philip Nisbet and Elizabeth Haldane had five children, four sons and one daughter The sons were named Alexander (VII), Philip, Thomas and David but in this narrative we are concerned only with the two elder sons ; Alexander, who succeeded his father in the estate, and Philip, who entered the Church and held livings in Yorkshire and Durham. In passing we should mention, however, that Thomas Nisbet, the third son, married Agnes Purves and had a son whom the Herald refers to as " the eminent Philip Nisbet of Ladykirk ". His son married Marie Hay in 1680 and left only a daughter who married John Veitch of Dawick, chief of his name. David Nisbet, the fourth son, was a burgess of Dunbar. He was concerned in business transactions for his eldest brother Sir Alexander Nisbet in the years between 1634 and 1639. David had a son Philip served heir to his father in Dunbar 16th June 1658. The only daughter, Margaret, married Mow of Mowismaynes and had a family who succeeded to that property.

VII. SIR ALEXANDER NISBET of that ilk, eldest son of Sir Philip succeeded to his family estate in Berwickshire before July 1630. About 1609 he married Katharine, only daughter of Robert Swinton of that ilk by his wife, Katherine, daughter of William Lord Hay of Yester. They had five sons and five daughters, the sons being Philip, John, Robert, Alexander, and Adam. Sir Philip, the eldest, was an officer in the English army of Charles I and Governor of Newark-upon-Trent. His exploits in the Civil War are mentioned in a later chapter but it will suffice to state here that he was taken prisoner after the Battle of Philiphaugh when fighting under Montrose on 13th September 1645 and executed at Glasgow on 22nd October of the same year. In St. Giles' Cathedral, Edinburgh the arms of Sir Philip Nisbet with other of his comrades are shown in the Montrose window. John, the second son, resided in England and does not appear to have taken part in the Civil War ; he left a daughter only. Colonel Robert, the third son, was captured with Montrose at Invercharron and executed in Edinburgh May 1650. Major Alexander, the fourth son was killed at the Siege of York in 1644. Adam, the fifth and youngest son, was a writer in Edinburgh. He married on 24th March, 1653, Janet, daughter of Alexander Aikenhead, writer to the signet and grand-daughter of David Aikenhead, Lord Provost of Edinburgh. He died 6th February 1674.

Claimed ancestors

• Male line connection to Gospatrick is full of errors see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Property%20Nisbet%20and%20family%20de%20Soulis and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Property%20Nisbet%20and%20family%20Melsonby
• Aldan is not a known proven ancestor. Often claimed. in 1139 King David I confirmed a charter (now in the archives of Durham Cathedral) granting the lands of Nisbet to Aldan de Nisbet, the founder of the line of Nisbet of Nisbet (i.e. Nisbet of that Ilk). This Aldan who is often claimed as an ancestor along the line from Goapatric, was actual only a witness for Gospatric, to the old charters. He was in these charters called “Alden the stewart of Gospatric”. There is nothing that indicates he was a Nisbet or any Nisbets descended from him.
• Earls of Dunbar are closer related to the Nisbets of Greenholm than Nisbet of that ilk and are not ancestors of either.

• Can not find Mariota daughter claimed to have married Philip Nisbet of that Ilk died before 1535, and was the eldest son of Adam Nisbet of that Ilk and Lucie Rutherfurd. He married November 1524, first to Mariota Hoppringill, daughter of William Hoppringill (Pringel) of Torwoodlie

In 1501 William Hoppringill took a “tack” or lease of Torwoodlee, near Galashiels in the Scottish Borders; he continued to hold this tack until the land was “feued” or sold to him in 1510 just after his son George had been included in the lease. William had come from Smailholm, near Kelso, where his father and forebears had been squires to the Earls of Douglas from the 1350s

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Problem

• Adam alive in 1480. Adam has been said to have been father of Philip 1444-1523 who was married to Elene Rutherfuird, but this must be another Philip. Adam Nisbet of West Nisbet is mentioned in a charter of 1442. By this charter dated at Haddington 1st July 1442 Patrick Macdowell of Logan conveyed to Philip, son of Adam Nisbet of West Nisbet, omnes terras meas de Reycleuch, the reddendo being one half of a pair of gloves or two pennies Scots. Raecleuch remained in the possession of the Nisbets until the ruin of the family in the days of the Stuarts

His CLAIMED SON Phillip Nisbet b.ca 1444-1523 married Elene Rutherfuird (His son Adam inherited by 1523 Service of Adam Nisbet of that Ilk as heir to his father in the lands of Nisbet Otterburn Over & Nether Recleughs and Mordington dated 14 Nov 1523)

If it is this Philip that was claimed to received the lands of Reycleuch in 1442. He would to be conveyed these lands have to have been of age by 1442 and couldn’t have been born in 1444 and would have been almost or more than 100 yrs old when he died in 1523 possible but not probable

Note: RC Nesbitt does not include Adam in the pedigree, but stops at Philip and Elene Rutherford- Nisbet of that Ilk

Sources

1. ↑ ref Nisbet of that Ilk by Robert Chancellor Nesbitt
2. ↑ note *PHILIP N of that Ilk *1444 +1523 He married Elene Rutherford PHILIP Nisbet of that ilk, born 1444, married Elene Rutherfuird, the second daughter of Robert Rutherfuird of Chatto by his wife Margaret, daughter of Sir Samuel Glendonwyn of that ilk. He received a knighthood and in 1489 he served upon an inquest held at Edinburgh. He was one of the representatives of the County of Berwick in the parliament held at Perth on 26th November, 1513. The last notice observed of Sir Philip is as witness to a charter by John Swinton of that ilk to Marion Home of certain lands in the county of Berwick in life-rent 21st October, 1522. He died in 1523.
3. ↑ Nisbet of that Ilk by Robert Chancellor Nesbitt
4. ↑ Note **ADAM N of that Ilk *1469 eldest son died 1530 married Lucie Rutherford. Heir to his father 1523. Adam Nisbet of that Ilk born 1469 eldest son. He appears to have met a violent death in 1530, as on 22nd June of that year a respite is granted to Matthew Hamilton, son to Robert Hamilton in Mylneburn, and Duncan Dundas, brother to James Dundas in New Liston, for airt and pairt in the slaughter of Adam Nisbet of that ilk. Adam Nisbet and his wife received on 20th May 1502 a crown charter of the lands of Auchinhay, in the stewartry of Kirkcudbright. On 14th May 1523 he was served heir to his father in the lands of Nisbet, Otterburn, Over and Nether Raecleuchs, and Mordington. He was witness to a conveyance by Stephen Tailyefeir, merchant burgess of Edinburgh, to George Cairns in Nuntoun and Mariote Makcullock, his spouse, of the lands of Myddilthrid de Kirkcormack in Kirkcudbrightshire, 5th December 1524. He supported the red Douglases in their struggle with king James V., and on 16th April 1529 he, with his son Philip, was put to the horn for non-compearance to a charge of intercommuning with and assisting Archibald, earl of Angus, George Douglas, his brother, and Archibald Douglas, their uncle (Kilspindie), in their treasonable deeds. He was again denounced for assistance rendered to Archibald, earl of Angus, in raising the siege of the castle of Newark. He was married to Lucie Rutherford. <ref>Alexander Nisbet’s Heraldic Plates introduction and notes Genealogical and Heraldic by Andrew Ross, Marchmont Herald, & Francis J Grant, Carrick Pursuivant published Edinburgh MDCCCXCIL 1892 Lairds and Gentlemen: A study of the Landed Families of the Eastern Anglo-Scottish Borders ca 1540-1603 by Maureen Manuel Meikle PH. D. University of Edinburgh Nov 1988 Note ''Letters of horning (Scots law): a document (i.e., letters) issued by civil authorities that publicly denounce a person as a rebel. The document was issued against persons who had not paid their debts. Historically, the documents would be announced by three blasts of a horn, and the documents themselves came to be known as "letters of horning". A person who was denounced in these documents was described as having been "put to the horn". Put to the horn: (obs. Scots law) to outlaw by three blasts of the horn at the Cross of Edinburgh To hold and to have the said lands, with their pertinents, by the said Philip, his heirs and assignees, of the Lord of Drylton in fee and heritage forever'' ADAM NISBET, of that ilk, born 1469, eldest son of Sir Philip Nisbet (1) married Lucie Rutherfurd, daughter of George Rutherfurd of Hundalee. He was served heir to his father on the 14th May 1523. He supported the red Douglases in their struggle with King James V (1513-1542), father of Mary Queen of Scots, and on 16th April 1529, he, with his son Philip, was put to the horn for non-compearance to a charge of intercommuning with and assisting Archibald, Earl of Angus and the Douglases in their treasonable deeds. He appears to have met a violent death in 1530. "To "put to the horn" in old Scots law; was to denounce as a rebel and outlaw for non-appearance at a court to answer a summons; the culprit was proclaimed at the Great Cross in Edinburgh, together with three blasts of a horn and other formalities. A similar process was in vogue in executions on property for judicially established debts." Berwik. Fol. 185 Vicecomes de Berwik respondebit pro x tt. de firmis terrarum ville et torritorii de Westnesbitt cum turre, fortalicio, et molendinis earundem jacentium infra balliam suam existentium in minibus regis termini Sancti Martini ultimo preteriti sasina non recuperata, et pro xx tt. de relevio earundem, ac pro xxx s de firmis dimedietatis terrarum de Otterburn cum pertinentiis existentium in manibus regis per dictum tempus ratione qua supra, et pro iij tt. de relevio ejusdem regi debitis per sasinam datam Ade Nesbitt de eisdem. Apud Edinburgh xxix Januarii anno regni regis undecimo.
   1. 613 Vol. 15. 1523-1529 Regum Scotorum in Latin
   extract translation from Latin 1523-4 Sasine to Adam Nisbet of Wester Nisbet and half of Otterburn Territory of West Nesbit in sheriffdom of Berwick with fortalice tower and mills in the hands of the king for 10 li.. The last sasine to be taken was not recovered in the past year, and for the 20 li. of the relief the same, and with the appurtenances, in place of 30 s to the existing things in the hands of the king of half of the countries of the Otterburn, for 3 li. relief due to the same sasine to Adam Nesbitt. At Edinburgh 19 January. (The property was leased at a fixed rent in return for which the tenant receives the profits of the estate. Relief was paid by the heir out of his own purse (A payment made by an heir of a deceased vassal to the feudal superior for his recognition as lawful successor to the deceased vassal.)( fortalice a small fort or outwork of a fortification)</li> <li id="_note-4">[[#_ref-4|↑]] Note [[Nisbet-639|Philip (Nisbet) Nisbet of that Ilk (abt.1500-bef.1535)]] Philip Nisbet of that Ilk died before 1535, and was the eldest son of Adam Nisbet of that Ilk and Lucie Rutherfurd. He married November 1524, first to Mariota Hoppringill, daughter of William Hoppringill (Pringel) of Torwoodlie,(NEEDS DOCUMENTATION) . He married, secondly, Isobel Home, daughter of David Home of Wedderburn and his wife Alison Douglas, sister of Archibald (Bell-the-Cat), fifth earl of Angus. The second alliance no doubt explains the assistance given by the Nisbets to the Douglases in the struggles of the latter with King James V. His two eldest sons, Adam and George succeeded him. He held land in chief and from the earl of Huntly. [1]</li></ol></ref>