Cates Research

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A place to collect all Cates research regarding Nora Cates Swafford Amanda Cates Narramore

Census Records

This cannot be the family of Richard Cates and Mary McKnight because: 1. Amanda Narramore's death certificate lists her parents names and birth. 2. in 1900 Amanda Narramore birth Dec 1842 is living with her brother Robert Cates Nov 1847. 3. Robert's dates match the dates on the 1850 Census with this Amanda. 4. Amanda's marriage record to James Gideon Naramore gives her name as Amanda Turner and the marriage was held at the home or R. Cates.

1850

Richard Cates 28

Mary Cates 28

Calaway Gates 11 Lists his parents on his death certifcate as Baldwin Cates and Mary McKnight.

Amanda Gates 10

Richard Gates 5

Robt Gates 3

Mahala Gates 0

"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCD2-95D : 12 April 2016), Richard Clates, Jefferson county, Jefferson, Tennessee, United States; citing family 1606, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

The 1858 marriage record indicates that the above 1850 Census record is NOT Richard Cates and Mary McKnight because in 1860. Amanda is still at that address AND the death certificate of Mandy Cates Narramore names her parents as Richard Cates and Mary McKnight

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MANDY CATES NARRAMORE is not Amanda Cates.

1858

1st Marriage to Napoleon Turner

Marriage Date: 10 Aug 1858

Marriage Place: Jefferson, Tennessee, USA

Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002. Nashville, TN, USA: Tennessee State Library and Archives. Microfilm.

1860

1860 Jefferson

N B Turner Male 28 Tennessee (Napoleon)

A Turner Female 19 Tennessee (Amanda)

R Turner Female 1 Tennessee (Rue)

1860 Sevier

Richd Cate Male 39 Tennessee

Mary Cate Female 31 Tennessee NOTICE AGE

Calaway Cate Male 18 Tennessee

Amanda Cate Female 16 Tennessee

Richard Cate Male 12 Indiana

Robert Cate Male 9 Tennessee

Matilda Cate Female 7 Tennessee

Malinda Cate Female 5 Tennessee

Nancy Cate Female 3 Tennessee

Converstation of two researchers

Hi Edna Jane, I too am pretty new at this, I went from OK to TN in 1998 to try to find my gggrandfather, Wilson W. Gibbs, I found his probate will in the Blount Co. (Dec 1898) Courthouse in Maryville, TN, the Co. seat.

This section shows Alta Gibbs is sister to Martha Caroline Gibbs. Why is Martha left out of the will? Noras poem says her grandmother was a McKnight {Martin-15906 16:45, 9 October 2018 (UTC)}

On finding the will I found out that I had a Great Aunty, named Alta Z. (Gibbs) Finger and my gGrandmother, Martha Caroline Gibbs Martin was a sister. On Sep 23, 1866, Alta Z married an Adam Finger. He was executor of the will according to the copy of the will that I have. According to my Grandmother, Nora Elender Cates Swafford.

The following statement has many problems. The Gibbs are not listed as Indian on the census records. Also Robert and a Nora E. Turner, who appears to be the daughter of Martha Turner, sister of Robert appears in 1880 at his home. There seems to be confusion then of who went to Missouri. {Martin-15906 20:03, 9 October 2018 (UTC)}

The Gibbs were Cherokee Indiana. Her mother brought her to MIssouri in the late 1870's, left her with her white grandfather and went into KS City, MO to find work because Nora E.'s father, Robert Cates did not want to make a home for them Martha C. left her son by Cates in TN with the other grandfather, Wilson W. Gibbs. My grandmother didn't ever see him (her brother) again. I have heard Robert Cates, was an Army Scout in Tennessee and probably never married my gGrandmother, Martha C.

I was quite amazed to know of the existence of Adam and Alta Z.; Am wondering if your Wilson Greer could be a descendent, due to the similarity of my ggGrandfather's name (Wilson Gibbs) or perhaps, Adam could have been one of the two children that LouCinda Finger had by Sam Smith, Cherokee Tribe #88. There are a lot of Fingers in Maryville, Blount, Tennessee, so I was told. Alta Z. Finger died Feb 26, 1932 and trying to get a copy of her Obit published in the Maryville Times on 10 Mar 1932. I'm still trying to find out if we are indeed Cherokee. Martha C. would not claim her headright in the Cherokee nation, but Alta Z. may have? Any ideas? let me know what you think. Just E-mail me. Good hunting, it takes time but I think its fascinating. Blount Co. has a website that you may want to visit. Its on Genforum I think under the Tennessee Web Site. That's where I found the info on Alta's Obit. She died when I was 2yrs old.

Sincerely,

Maybe a long lost cousin,

Pat Jordan