Surnames/tags: help gedcom
Help with the GEDCOMpare process
Last edit 15:37, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Saving your GEDcom
What I did for the GEDCOM process:
- Downloaded my GEDCOM and saved it to my computer
- Opened in RootsMagic - Export - Select from list - Select People - Find your name, click - Under Mark Group, select Ancestors of highlighted person - change to 6 generations, Ancestors and descendants of ancestors - ok - ok (now you see Export box again) - uncheck anything you don't want, like addresses - leave 'privatize living people' unchecked - ok - save to your pc.
- Note: If you privatize living people when creating the GEDCOM the WikiTree system can't match them to others, so it won't add them to WikiTree. WikiTree values the privacy of living people and will 'privatize' them automatically, so it is unnecessary to do so when creating the GEDCOM.
- Or - Take the 2nd GEDCOM on Ancestry upload it again, renaming it 'Test Tree' and 'delete person' for everyone past your great-great-great-grandparents (this keeps your initial 'tree' at a manageable size) Note: The GEDCOM upload won't upload more than 5,000 people. If you don't have siblings and their children, you may be able to go to the next generation (leave 4th great-grandparents). If you still have over 5,000 people you will have to decide who to 'delete' at this point. You can always add them in later. Unfortunately, Ancestry doesn't have a feature to select direct lines only, or exclude people that have been unlinked from your tree.
- Download the new 'Test Tree' (export tree)
- Note: Adjust the process as necessary for sites other than Ancestry
- Note: If you have already uploaded your GEDCOM and it is over two or three thousand people; I strongly recommend that you use one of the above methods to make it smaller. The compare process is quite tedious with anything bigger than that, and you can always go back later and add in the later generations. By then, you may find that those ancestors already exist and you have already attached your branches to them.
Upload your GEDCOM
- Go to WikiTree - upper right hand corner - My WikiTree - GEDCOMs
- Choose file, upload your GEDCOM.
- Hurry up and wait, as they say - you will get an email when your GEDCOM is ready. Or - you can go back the 'My WikiTree' and select 'GEDCOMs' and check the progress.
- Once you get the email, go to 'My WikiTree' and 'GEDCOMs'
Compare and Match
- You can see that there are now 103 people that need to be looked at (for my small GEDCOM). You will need to look at each possible match
- Go ahead and look at your first possible match. If you are sure it is the same person, click on the Match button. If it is not the same person, click Reject. If you are still a guest, continue down your list repeating that process.
- If you have confirmed your email address, and then upgraded to Family Member, you can now take the time to edit this person if you would like. Remember, there is no hurry to get all of the people added instantly - your GEDCOM will stay available until 60 days after your last edit.
- I prefer to edit each person as I match them. This way you don't have to worry about leaving a profile 'in a mess' until you can get back to it.
- After scrolling to the bottom once clicking on Edit, you see what i mean. To begin, delete out the useless info at the start. If all name fields are already filled in (the middle name is already there, etc) you can simply delete the name section.
- If you are anxious to move on with the process, you can add a 'Research Notes' section to separate the information you will use later to fill out the biography
- In your new Research section, you can use colons to keep the text on the same line. Click on preview and see that the info is all crowded together like a paragraph. Now, add in the colons, and preview again. Your information is now in rows.
- If you prefer to spend that extra time and make each profile nicer now - go ahead and create new sections while in Edit mode. If you have a lot of census, or other, records that support residence, you will have a large section of dates and places. Use the header as shown below to create a Residence section. Use your colons to keep each year on the same line. You can backspace to pull the place up on the same line as the date.
- I had already put the dates in Bold text in the example before - this is how I did that;
- Another large section can be the 'Born' section. you can copy and paste, or type in, the birth location - adding it to the biography (I added in the Onomea, Hawai'i, Hawai'i, that wasn't there). Now just cut and paste everything from the first < ref > to the last one, pasting at the very end of the born sentence.
- A GEDCOM can add many things that you don't really need on the profile. For a list of things you can safely delete see the GEDCOM Created Biographies help page.
- As you work on your list, you can click on 'Hide Completed Rows' at the top, so that you can see what you still need to work on.
- Now your list is more manageable
Awaiting New Matches
- You may get a message, once you've looked at all suggested matches, that says the import is awaiting a new set of matches. At this point, just give it time. Once again, there is no rush - you want your ancestors taken care of properly. You can now go back to some of the profiles that you edited, and work on those research sections. Or - you can click on Help in the upper right corner, and go to the Forum. Read through the questions - you may find out information that will help you learn WikiTree better. You may even find someone else that you can help.
- Going back to your GEDCOM, more matches may have appeared. Click through them and see if they match.
- You've done all that and no 'Add' button? Gasp! This simply means that not all suggestions were compared. If you have hidden your completed rows, as shown - click on 'Show Completed Rows' and look for Compare buttons. If they say 'matched' you have already taken care of that person. If they say 'suggested' then you need to click on Compare for each suggestion. Even if you clicked the box to the left that says you are done with this person (maybe you had no plan on adding a living person), you need to look at every one. Remember - you GEDCOM is available for several months now, so the process does not want to leave possible matches in your list without them being examined. In the case mentioned before, where you know that you are not adding a person, as they are living, simply click on 'Reject.' Please don't just click on Reject to hurry the process - there is only supposed to be one profile for each person. This part of the process is to prevent duplicates.
- Aha! That worked! Now the 'magical' Add button has appeared.
- Now you can 'Hide Completed Rows' again to keep your working list manageable. Pick a person, and click on that wonderful Add button.
Adding New People
- The GEDCOMpare process will fill in the fields for you (name, birth, etc). Take a moment and make sure that they are correct. If you had several variations of spelling for a first or last name, move the extra versions to 'Nickname' or 'Other Last Names.' You can now use the same process as you did while editing your matches - move birth information, create Residence and Research sections, and take the time to write a biography if you are ready.
- My example was using a GEDCOM from Ancestry. Remember that these profiles are available for everyone to see. Once you have your profiles all added, take the time to go back to each one and try to provide sources that everyone can see. FamilySearch.org is a great (free) site to do this with. If you have a 1930 census, for example, find it on FamilySearch. Then simply highlight and copy the source at the bottom on FamilySearch, and paste it over the Ancestry source on the profile. If you don't see the Source section, look on the bottom right for a little arrow and click that. The source should now appear.
- Occasionally when editing you may make a change that the system doesn't like. If you get an error after editing, and your Add button disappears; the best thing to do is step away. Once again, you can go back to some of the profiles that you edited, and work on those research sections. Or - you can click on Help in the upper right corner, and go to the Forum. Read through the questions - you may find out information that will help you learn WikiTree better. You may even find someone else that you can help. If the error hasn't cleaned itself up by the next day, post to the G2G Forum, or email email@example.com.
The Next Step
- Now that you've seen how involved the process is, you can see why you want to work in small sections. If you have two thousand people in your GEDCOM the process will seem daunting. By breaking it up into smaller sections, it is more manageable. After you have properly taken care of all of these profiles, and they all have sources on them (Family Trees are not considered an actual source) you can go back to your tree and go through this same process. Pick an older ancestor and use them as a starting person. Create a new (small) GEDCOM with this person and keep several generations after them. Take your time adding them (or merging their information with existing profiles) so that each one has been given the respect they deserve.
- Remember: WikiTree has requirements for working on pre-1700 profiles:
- Because of the difficulties in properly researching and editing pre-1500 profiles, as well as the large amount of people that will be related to them (they are 'our' ancestors, not 'my' on WikiTree), there are stricter requirements for them.
- Wonderful! You have now completed the GEDCOMpare process! Remember that the G2G (Genealogist to Genealogist) Forum is there for everyone to use. Don't be afraid to ask questions (we were all new once, there are no 'stupid' questions) or ask for help finding records for your ancestors. You can also go back to your profile, and click on one of the people that greeted you when you were new, and send Private Messages asking for help. The more time you spend on WikiTree, the easier everything will seem. Have fun - and Congratulations on contributing to this wonderful tree!
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Page last edited: (15:36, 17 August 2020 (UTC))
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