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Suggestion 419 Unmarried parents with no marriages

Privacy Level: Public (Green)
Date: 16 Nov 2021
Location: Worldwidemap
Surnames/tags: data_doctors db_error_419
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Description of Suggestion - 419: Unmarried parents with no marriages

These parents have a common child, but no marriages are recorded for them.

Content of info column: Empty.

Possible Causes

Faulty old GEDCOM imports. It is also possible that there was no marriage between the parents.

  1. the parents were not in fact married to each other
  2. the parents were married to each other but the marriage is not entered

Action Steps

Try to find a marriage record and enter the marriage. If one can't be found, or if the parents were not married, note that in the Research Notes section.

  1. Mark the suggastion as a false suggestion
  2. Enter the marriage between parents.

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Technical Stuff

The presence of marriage is checked for all children with both parents set. Both parents must have Open or Public privacy. This suggestion is created for parents, that have no marriages.

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The title of this suggestion is confusing and contradictory because, by definition, parents who aren't married don't have a marriage record. Suggest changing to something clearer like "Missing marriage record" or "Married parents with no marriage record." Then the suggestion could be marked false if the parents were not married. If you want the suggestion title to account for the possibility that the parents were not in fact married, you could go with "Missing marriage record?" or "Check for possible marriage record."
posted by Lou Nickerson
Hi, Lou

Sometimes the suggestions aren't easily understood, and it helps to have context. You might look at the suggestion group page to which this suggestion belongs for more information: Relationship Suggestions along with the linked help pages for more explanation.

The parents have a common child, but there is no marriage record. The cause may be that the gedcom by which the profile was created didn't have the record in the correct format that WikiTree recognizes, so searching for a marriage record is the action to take. The timeframe is another variable - today, many parents may be unmarried, which was less common 100 years ago. This suggestion's parameters are finding the opposite of what you indicate would be more precise.

posted by Sheryl Moore
No marriage tells us that there are no other marriages for this person. This suggestions is similat to 420 Unmarried parents with other marriages that lists unmarries parents with marriages to other persons. I guess I should use plural for marriage.
posted by Aleš Trtnik
edited by Aleš Trtnik
There are many ways to be clearer and more precise. Given the possible reasons for the lack of a marriage that you want to cover in this suggestion (1) the parents were not in fact married to each other, or 2) they were married to each other but the marriage record is missing), "Check for possible marriage between parents" seems to cover both. If you don't care for that wording or it doesn't convey your intended meaning, I'm sure there are other ways to clarify the suggestion.
posted by Lou Nickerson
Hi, Lou

It seems you are reading the title only. The title has a character limit, and the page describes what it is and what to do. Where the suggestion title appears on profiles with this suggestion, there is a question mark link to this page to read more about it.

posted by Sheryl Moore

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