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RESEARCH IN PROGRESS Moyer-780 18:55, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

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DNA and Cousin Connections

FOLLOWING BREADCRUMBS

Referring to In Defense of Small Segments [1]

The Goal

I am attempting to prove 3 things:

1) That I, Amanda (Moyer) Torrey is Descendant of Nancy Gillespie Owens who was born in York and died in Clearfield County Pennsylvania, even when her previous siblings were born in a plantation in Cowpasture Augusta Colony Virginia.
2) That Nancy's parents were William Gillespie from Falkirk, Scotland and Mary (Glendinning) Gillespie from Dumfries, Scotland
3) Each of her parents being Archibald Glendinning and Esther Mayes Glendinning had previous marriages.

Our Challenge

We recognize two children from Archibald's Will who were products of his second marriage Esther Mayes . This study will establish a 3d child, Mary, not mentioned and not recognized because she married William Gillespie before Archibald died. Mary's husband, William Gillespie is an Executor on her parents Wills. More importantly is evidence of trace DNA that connects Mary with the Glendinnings. Since the cMs are limited to 3-4 cMs per segment we needed an accumulation of test takers that could make their 18th Century Ancestors into an actual source. We will always be looking for primary sources to fill in the gaps, but in the meantime we have available a population of DNA Connections to begin a compelling study to show the large probability of a clear genetic lineage.

Identifying Descending Generations

Ian Glendinning [35]

SECOND GENERATION Colonial ARCHIBALD's FATHER


THIRD GENERATION Archibald Glendinning and Esther Mayse

1) * :Scott Mitchell and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 7th cousins and both descended through Archibald Glendinning and his 2nd wife Esther (Mayse) Clendenning [2] Scott and Amanda have 234 common ancestors .
Scott Mitchell and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey Comparing Kit M152915 (*ScottM) [Migration - V3 - M] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 4.4 cM; Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 11.7cM (0.327 Pct); 3 shared segments found for this comparison; 208080 SNPs used for this comparison; 51.494 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chrs 2, 7, 12. Scott matches on 2 & 12.

Note Scott's ancestor is John; Amanda's ancestor is Mary (Glendinning) Gillespie

2) Cheryl (Bailey) McMasters and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed. Cheryl and Amanda Descend from Esther (Mayse) Glendinning and Robert Burnside. Cheryl's ancestor is Rachel (Burnside) Wade. [3] There are 2 ways Charyl descends from Esther (Mayes) Burnside. Amanda and Cheryl have 3 Common Ancestors.
Comparing Kit A648408 (*Cheryl Bailey) [Migration - F2 - A] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 4.3 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 17.9cM (0.499 Pct). 5 shared segments found for this comparison. 198747 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.57 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosomes 3, 5, 7 (2xs), 8

Note: As Cheryl descends from Esther (Mayes) Burnside, Esther's first husband, Cheryl is not a Glendinning, but our trace DNA would isolate Mayes DNA on chromosome 8.

3) Terry Green and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [4] Terry and Amanda share 246 common ancestors. Terry descends from Esther (Mayes) Burnside, Esther's first husband.
4) Yvonne (McCowen) Gammel and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 7th cousins once removed. [5] Yvonne and Amanda have 250 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit M436149 (Yvonne McCowan Gammell) [Migration - V4 - M] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 6.3 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 6.3cM (0.175 Pct). 1 shared segments found for this comparison. 125439 SNPs used for this comparison. 48.517 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosomes 6.3 cM on the 15th chromosome.

FOURTH GENERATION:  : Mary and her husband William Gillespie had 10 children

Amanda's connection through Mary and William's daughter (#9) NANCY (GILLESPIE) OWENS FROM YORK PENNSYLVANIA.
1) Samuel Propst and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins[6] They share 54 Common Ancestors
2) Marie (Ward) Mills and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th Cousins and [7] They share 184 Common Ancestors.
3) Cindy DeVall and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th Cousins [8] They have 109 common ancestors.
4) * Donna (Bennett) Prisley and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [9]. Donna and Amanda have 270 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit T005126 (Donna Prisley) [Migration - F2 - T] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 4.6 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 17.5cM (0.489 Pct). 4 shared segments found for this comparison. 201899 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.306 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosomes 1, 2, 5, 13
5) [[Berry-17166|Daniel Berry} and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th Cousins once removed [10] They have 241 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit YD1345830 (*Dano) [Select a Company or Source] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 4.5 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 8.5cM (0.236 Pct). 2 shared segments found for this comparison.180107 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.059 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosomes 13, 14
6) * Timothy Upton and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th Cousins once removed [11] Timothy and Amanda have 184 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit CW9891526 (Timothy Upton) [FTDNA] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 3.7 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 43cM (1.2 Pct). 13 shared segments found for this comparison. 468474 SNPs used for this comparison. 68.086 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosomes 1, 2, 5, 6, 11 (3xs), 12, 13, 16, 20 (3xs)
7) Lesley Lee Shockey and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed. [12] Lesley and Amanda have 7 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit T461689 (Lesley Shockey) [Migration - F2 - T] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage]. Largest segment = 6.5 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 9.7cM (0.27 Pct). 2 shared segments found for this comparison. 203141 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.753 Pct SNPs are full identical Chromosomes 1, 15.
8) Diane (Howard) Farquharson and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed. [13]. Amanda and Diane have 316 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit JN6833213 (*Dianne Howard) [Ancestry] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] No shared DNA segments found. 180217 SNPs used for this comparison. Comparison took 0.203.
9) Susan Cox and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [14] Susan and Amanda have 133 common ancestors.
10) Jessica Welton and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed. [15] Jessica and Amanda share 151 common ancestors.
11) . John Krone Jr. are 6th cousins once removed [16] John and Amanda have 221 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit EY3642225 (John Krone Jr) [MyHeritage] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage]: Largest segment = 5.6 cM; Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 21cM (0.587 Pct); 5 shared segments found for this comparison.; 173472 SNPs used for this comparison.; 51.55 Pct SNPs are full identical. Also important is the chart above is "Validity of Segments" and though I set the minimum segment size at its minimum 3, there is always a reading, 3-4 cMs over a number of segments. which are Chromosome 5, 7 (2xs) , 15, 21
12) Larry Shelley and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are are 6th cousins once removed [17] They share 271 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit M580051 (Larry Shelley) [Migration - V3 - M] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 3.3 cM.Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 6.4cM (0.177 Pct). 2 shared segments found for this comparison. 210609 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.803 Pct SNPs are full identical.
1) Margaret Gillespie and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins [18] Margaret and Amanda have only 2 connections with Amanda being James Smiley Gillespie and William Gillespie.

Note 1: James middle name "Smiley" is the same as a "Quaker" (unproven Moyer-780 22:37, 9 March 2022 (UTC)) family. Benjamin Lownesberry, the son of John Carpenter Lownesberry from Bordentown, New Jersey (a Quaker bastion) and Drucilla Smiley from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (Also a Quaker stronghold) ultimately married Anna (Owens) Lownesberry the daughter of Nancy from York, Pennsylvania and John Owens' from York with Welsh parents. [19]. Though not definitive, it is another clue to explore. James Smiley Gillespie was born 9 years before Nancy which would mean the Gillespies might have been a part of this Quaker community for a decade before William took a pregnant Mary to York to deliver their baby.

Note 2: James Smiley Gillespie married Isabella Gillespie which is not as strange as it sounds. Isabella comes from a branch of Gillespies that come from Kirkcaldy not Falkirk like James. There is an opportunity through their marriage to bring 3 branches from Scotland together: Gillespies Agriculturalists from Falkirk through James Gillespie, Gillespie Scholars from Kirkcaldy.


Mark Armstrong and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [20] Mark and Amanda have 249 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit A222365 (Mark Armstrong) [Migration - F2 - A] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage]: Largest segment = 5.2 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 19.7cM (0.551 Pct). 5 shared segments found for this comparison. 200216 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.461 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosome 1 (2xs); 6, '8, 19 [confirm Mayse]
Note Interesting that Relationship to Me establishes me with the PM of John's profile as 10th cousins twice removed from my mother's line (this is my father's line), I have no idea why she's managing this profile with LaVerne. [36] Relationship to Me</ref>
2) Leonard White with Amanda (Moyer) Torrey have been Gedmatched:

Comparing Kit CH6332844 (Leonard White) [Ancestry] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 4.3 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 12.1cM (0.338 Pct). 3 shared segments found for this comparison. 180172 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.414 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosomes 1, 2 and 6. Segment on Chromosome 2 is valid to add to data supporting Mary's inclusion as a Glendinning as well as Mr. White is a member of this family. This information has been added to [Gillespie-560|John Gillespie]].


1) Larry Walker and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [21] Larry and Amanda descend from more than one way. Larry Walker and Amanda Torrey share 230 Ancestors.
Comparing Kit TY9434486 (Larry Walker) [Ancestry] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 6.4 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 6.4cM (0.179 Pct). 1 shared segments found for this comparison. 173353 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.46 Pct SNPs are full identical. All 6.4 cMs on Chromosome 15
2) Emily Gillespie and [[Moyer-780|Amanda (Moyer) torrey are 6th Cousins once removed.[22] Emily descends from Mary in 2 different ways. They have 254 common ancestors.
3) Suzan (Schwantz) Valdez and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins [23] Suzan and Amanda share 127 Common Ancestors.


1) ** Charles Given and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins [24] Charles and Amanda share 111 Common Ancestors.
Comparing Kit XG3289324 (Charles Givens Jr.) [Ancestry] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 5.5 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 18cM (0.503 Pct). 4 shared segments found for this comparison. 177325 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.579 Pct SNPs are full identical Chromosomes: 8, 14, 17, 20 [Mayse]
2) * Thomas Wightman and Amanda are 6th cousins [25] Thomas and Amanda share 260 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit A656082 (*TomWight1) [Migration - F2 - A] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 3.1 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 3.1cM (0.087 Pct). 1 shared segments found for this comparison. 201042 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.393 Pct SNPs are full identical Chromosome 2
3) Anna Robbins and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins [26] They have 255 common Ancestors.
4) Carol Mecey and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [27] They have 87 Common Ancestors.
5) Janice (Hartridge) Givens and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are fifth cousins once removed [28] Janice and Amanda have 111 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit EQ7599379 (Janice Hatridge Givens) [Ancestry] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 4.8 cM; Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 12.4cM (0.345 Pct); 3 shared segments found for this comparison; 173441 SNPs used for this comparison; 51.53 Pct SNPs are full identical; Chromosome 1, 13, 19.
Note: Janice Hartridge is the leader of the DNA Connections on this line up the generations of both the Gillespies and Glendinnings so her autosomal data is important and relevant to information tying together the two families. She would NOT appear for example for Mary and Mayse or Mary and Archibald if in fact there was no connection. I will be exploring this further when I've completed the list of relevant Descendants.
6) Rick Peterson and Moyer-780 are 6th cousins once removed [29] Rick and Amanda have 175 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit T546205 (*Rick Peterson) [Migration - F2 - F] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage]. Largest segment = 5.5 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 21.7cM (0.606 Pct). 5 shared segments found for this comparison. 203211 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.373 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosomes 6, 7, 9, 17, 21
7) Andrew Barocco and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [30] Andrew aand Amanda have 21 common ancestors.



FIFTH GENERATION

1) P Darlene (Dunlap) Haight and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are fifth cousins once removed [31] Darlene and Amanda have 95 common ancestors.

^NOTE Strong ties here to the Stewarts

2) P Bobbie Long and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are fifth cousins once removed [32] Bobbie and Amanda share 195 common ancestors.
NOTE: Like Darlene Dunlap, Bobbie is connected with Robert Steward King of Scots (1316-1390) [[37]
Comparing Kit M744209 (Bobbie Long Lamberson-Poston) [Migration - V4 - M] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] No shared DNA segments found; 123676 SNPs used for this comparison. Comparison took 0.209. Note Odd, truly odd.
3)

FIFTH GENERATION Comparing Kit M205035 (Laura Ferre) [Migration - V2 - M] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage Largest segment = 6.2 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 6.2cM (0.172 Pct). 1 shared segments found for this comparison. 124942 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.024 Pct SNPs are full identical Note Laura did not join Wikitree but someone uploaded her DNA test. I believe I saw her on John Gillespie's profile which would make her 4th cousin? I'm not entirely sure, but she comes through one of William and Mary's children and all 6.2 cMs sit on the 1st chromosome. I can not add her to the list validating Mary as a Glendinning.

1) P Martha (Demi) Houston and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 4th cousins once removed through Anna (Owens) Lansberry, Nancy (Owens) Gillespie's daughter [33] Martha and Amanda have 2 common ancestors: Anna and her father Benjamin (Lownsberry) Lansberry.
Comparing Kit M537437 (Martha Demi Houston) [Migration - V4 - M] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 12.2 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 29.6cM (0.826 Pct). 4 shared segments found for this comparison. 164351 SNPs used for this comparison. 53.059 Pct SNPs are full identical Chromosomes 2, 6, 13, 15.
Note Martha's results are important as our MCRA comes through Mary's granddaughter in Pennsylvania and we share 5

+cM on the 2 chromosome we're sharing with Ian Glendenning.

SIXTH GENERATION

1) P Greg Welker and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 3d cousins both MCRA Nancy (Lansberry) Hubler, descendant of [Glendinning-394|Mary (Glendinning) Gillespie]] through (#9) Nancy (Gillespie) Owens [34] Greg and Amanda share 2 Common Ancestors: Nancy Lansbury Hubler daughter to Levi Hubler.
Comparing Kit NR9763633 (Greg Welker) [Ancestry] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 24.1 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 29.7cM (0.829 Pct). 2 shared segments found for this comparison. 180216 SNPs used for this comparison. 51.242 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosomes 4 (24 cM), 16
2) P Steven Wilson and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey 3d cousin once removed and MCRA Nancy (Lansberry) Hubler descendant of Mary (Glendinning) Gillespie through Nancy (Gillespie) Owens. [35] Steven and Amanda have 127 common ancestors.
Comparing Kit T529222 (Steven Wilson) [Migration - F2 - F] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage] Largest segment = 20.6 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 76.2cM (2.124 Pct). 7 shared segments found for this comparison. 201307 SNPs used for this comparison.

51.887 Pct SNPs are full identical. Chromosomes 4, 5, 9, 13, 14, 16, 19


SEVENTH GENERATION



EIGHTH GENERATION

Ivy (Kraemer) Moyer is Amanda (Moyer) Torrey's Grandmother


NINTH GENERATION

Emory Moyer is Amanda (Moyer) Torrey's father.


TENTH GENERATION

Amanda (Moyer) Torrey is Nancy Hancock's mother.
Comparing Kit HM2760116 (Nancy Hancock) [Ancestry] and Kit UZ9855520 (Amanda Torrey) [MyHeritage]. Largest segment = 146.4 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 3552.7cM (99.078 Pct).

58 shared segments found for this comparison. 173472 SNPs used for this comparison. 64.045 Pct SNPs are full identical Chromosomes 1-21. As expected, Nancy matches on every chromosome.

Focus on what segment we match on chromosomes 2 (Glendennning) and 8 (Mayes)



Source

  1. ↑ In Defense of Small Segments [1]
  2. ↑ Scott Mitchell and Amanda Torrey are 7th Cousins [2]Relationship to Me
  3. ↑ Cheryl (Bailey) McMasters and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey) [3] Relationship to Me
  4. ↑ Terry Green and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [4] Relationship to Me
  5. ↑ Yvonne and Amanda are 7th cousins once removed [5] Relationship to Me
  6. ↑ Samuel and Amanda are 6th Cousins [6] Relationship to Me
  7. ↑ Marie Ward and Amanda Torrey are 6th Cousins [7] Relationship to Me
  8. ↑ Cindy DeVall and Amanda Torrey [8] Relationship to Me
  9. ↑ Donna and Amanda are 6th cousins once removed https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1Name=Bennett-6666&person2Name=Moyer-780] Relationship to Me
  10. ↑ Daniel Berry and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [9] Relationship to Me
  11. ↑ Timothy Upton and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [10] Relationship to Me
  12. ↑ Lesley Shockey and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [11] Relationship to Me
  13. ↑ Diane (Howard) Farquharson and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [12] Relationship to me
  14. ↑ Susan Cox and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [13] Relationship to Me
  15. ↑ Jessica Welton and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed[14] Relationship to Me
  16. ↑ John Krone and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [15] - our MCRA is this Mary.] Relationship to Me
  17. ↑ [16] Relationship to Me]
  18. ↑ Margaret and Amanda are6th cousins [17] Relationship to Me
  19. ↑ Nancy (Gillespie) Owens' Family Tree [18]
  20. ↑ Mark Armstrong and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [19] Relationship to Me
  21. ↑ Larry Walker and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [20] Relationship to Me]
  22. ↑ Emily Gillespie and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [21] Relationship to Me
  23. ↑ Suzan Schwantz and Amanda Torrey are 6th Cousins [22] Relationship to Me
  24. ↑ Charles Givens and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins [23] Relationship to Me
  25. ↑ Thomas Wightman and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins [24] Relationship to Me.
  26. ↑ Anna Robbins and Amanda Torrey [25] Relationship to Me
  27. ↑ Carol Mecey and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [26] Relationship to Me
  28. ↑ Janice (Hartridge) Givens and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 5th cousins once removed [27]
  29. ↑ Rick Peterson and Amanda Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [28] Relationship to Me
  30. ↑ Andrew Barooco and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 6th cousins once removed [29] Relationship to Me
  31. ↑ Darlene (Dunlap) Haight and Amanda Moyer Torrey are 5th cousins once removed [30] Relationship to Me
  32. ↑ Bobbie Long and Amanda Torrey are 5th cousins once removed [31] Relationship to Me
  33. ↑ Martha (Demi) Houston and Amanda (Moyer) Torrey are 4th cousins once removed [32] Relationship to Me
  34. ↑ Greg and Amanda are Third Cousins [33] Relationship and Me
  35. ↑ Steven and Amanda are 3d cousins once removed [34] Relationship to Me




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