Duncan Family Mysteries

Location: Kentucky
Surname/tag: Duncan

How does our Duncan Subgroup B family fit together? https://dna.ancestraldata.com/groups/Duncan/Reports/hybrid.html

Contents 1 Haplogroups for Y-DNA Duncan Subgroup B 1.1 William Duncan Minister of New Kilpatrick 1.1.1 Sasines 2 John Duncan, Brother to William 3 1. William Duncan 4 Sources

Haplogroups for Y-DNA Duncan Subgroup B

This group contains Duncans that are in the following haplogroups:

R-FGC19846 MRCA CE 690>>
R-FGC19856 MRCA c. 1090>>
R-FGC19845 MRCA c. 1280>>

• R-FTT35>> MRCA c. 1430
  • R-By170283 MRCA c. 1680
  • R-A1147 MRCA c. 1480
    • >>R-FG33214 MRCA c 1630
      • >>R-BY82809 MRCA c. 1660
      • >>R-FGC33215 MRCA c. 1710
      • >>R-BY75435 MRCA c. 1730
      • >>R-FT269028 MRC c. 1660
  • >>R-FGC19842 MRCA c. 1650

Our Duncan family in the United States starts with the following;

William Duncan Minister of New Kilpatrick

Mr. William (New Kilpatrick) was documented in the Fasti; confirms spouse as Jonet MacArthur. [ b. 1627 d. . 1692 (age 65) [m estimate abt 1647] Janet McArthur ] (Vol 3 p.356)

“William, M.A. b about 1627 King’s Coll., Aberdeen; M.A. 1648/ Asst. Auchindoir 21 Oct. 1652 – 1653. Kildrummy (before) 18 July 1666-1689. Driven from his charge in 1689, d. 1692. Married Janet Macarthur, and had issue — William ; probably also Alexander, min. of Kilbirnie. — [Reg. Old Dec, iii. ; Rule's Sec. Vindication ; Argyll Sas., ii., 254.] .:”

Further documentation showed “William's furniture was thrown out of the Manse and he himself had to flee for his life”. [The Scottish expression "cast out of the living"] This appears to be a commonality among William’s descendants

Son, Alexander (the Bishop) and Alexander’s son Robert (a Minister), were all “outed by the people”. It does seem feasible that this may be the basic reason for the migration to the US. – They may not have all been Brothers – but a combination of families (and/or children) which were “related”, thus accounting for the various traditional “common stories & ancestors” and possibly date errors in the bibles.^[1][2]

Wikitree profile William James Duncan (abt.1585-abt.1688) shows William married Janet Mac Arthur (born about 1600 in Scotland). Their known children were:

1. William Robert Duncan (null – <1694) .
2. John Duncan (~1648 – unknown) .
3. Alexander Duncan (~1655 – ~1733)

Sasines

Children: [b aft 1647 ]
(1) Eldest son (b abt 1648) of Mr William [1] was William [2], who married Margaret Forbes. [m. abt 1668 Children b aft 1668] ^[3]

(1) Son William [3] [b abt _1669_ died before 24 September 1725.

(2) His younger full brother John (b abt 1670) was his heir, so William [3] died, before 27 September 1725 without legitimate surviving issue.

(3) There is no testament for William [1], his son William [2], or for William [3].

(4) John Duncan (transfers ownership) of the land to Mr Alexander Duncan ^[4])

John Duncan, Brother to William

The following is the relevant part of a 'service of heir', in which a jury decides that one person is the legitimate heir of another; (re Rev. William Duncan) ^[1]

"It is the decision of a 15-man jury sitting in the Burgh Court of Glasgow on 24 September 1725. The original document is in the Scottish Record Office, reference C24/59. ^[5] was recorded on 19 October 1725, being the 10th service of heir recorded in that month; the ref. is C22/59 folios 623 to 624."

The jury decided that :

"John Duncan, bearer of these present documents [i.e. the documents proving his right to inherit] is the legitimate and nearest heir of the late William Duncan [3], his full brother, who died in the faith and peace of our sovereign lord [i.e. king George] and was the legitimate son of William Duncan [2], who was the eldest legitimate son of the late Mr William Duncan [1], minister of the word of God at Killpatrick.

Also, that the "said John Duncan is of legitimate age [to inherit]."

1. William Duncan

William (23) married Susan Sarah Haldane (25) (born about 1630 1/7 in Gleneagles, Perth, Scotland; daughter of Richard Haldane and Mary Kennett) on August 29, 1636 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Their known children were:

• William Robert Duncan (1659 – <1722) . m. Margaret (McMurde) McMurdo, settled in Culpeper, VA
• Charles Duncan (1660 – <1722) . settled in South Carolina?
• Henry Duncan (1662 – ~1725) . went to Westmoreland, VA
• Susan Duncan (? – <1722) .
• Thomas Duncan (1664– <1722) . went to Pennsylvania
• Alexander Duncan (~1665 – ~1720)

William died before 1694 in Scotland, aged about 81.

James Duncan was born in Kentucky in about 1778, lived in Hermiston County Kentucky and later moved to Vermillion County, Illinois. It is a mystery who his father is. There is no paper trail.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1}
2. ↑ [The Snell exhibitions: From the University of Glasgow to Balliol college, Oxford; By William Innes Addison
3. ↑ Williame Duncan m. Margaret Forbes in Saint Nicholas,Aberdeen,Aberdeen,Scotland 07 Jul 1612 (fhc 991138) This seems to equate to Alexander Merchant of Aberdeen)
4. ↑ Prob Son Alexander {b 1655; d. 1733 (age 78); m. abt 1675; Wife Unknown] )
   (Alexander has dau Grizell b 1727(? m. 2X?) (listed in Sasine) – and son Robert (b. abt 1686
5. ↑ The copy in the bound volumes, (Excerpts by genealogist Dr. John A. Robertson of Scotland - Stallard Research)