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England, Regional and County Statistics Notes

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England, Regional and County Statistics Notes

Weekly statistics are collated from a snapshot of the Wikitree database taken at about midnight each Saturday. The figures are usually rolled out between Tuesday and Thursday.

What’s new?

20 October 2022

There have been a number of changes to the way English profiles are identified, collated and presented. The changes are summarised below:

  1. Identification of profiles – more flexible search terms are used as explained in more detail here
  2. New counties of Greater Manchester and West Midlands have been added
  3. Isle of Wight is no longer separately reported; it is included in Hampshire’s figures. (Update 20 October - due to a technical issue, Isle of Wight hasn't been included in this week's figures. The problem will be sorted in next week's figures.)
  4. Bristol's statistics will be collated and profiles reviewed by the Gloucestershire team, whilst recognising that it is a unique location as detailed here. The correct way to enter a Bristol location remains 'Bristol, England'. Please not use 'Bristol, Gloucestershire, England'.
  5. There is now a new ‘county’ of England Unknown Region. This includes all profiles that have a birth, marriage or death that is identifiable as an England profile, but which can’t be allocated to a specific county.
  6. The profile count has changed to include in a county’s statistics every profile which has an identifiable birth, marriage or death location. (Previously, a technical adjustment reduced slightly the headline figure; the new approach is more straightforward.)

What impact has the change had?

  • England figures at county level have increased by 4%. Some counties have increased by more than others. A number of profiles that were previously incorrectly included in one county’s figures are now identified in the correct county; a number of poorly formatted locations are being allocated to England or the United Kingdom.
  • Suggestions, Unsourced, Unconnected and Unknown figures have increased disproportionately. This is not a great surprise, as the newly identified profiles have not previously been ‘owned’. We now have a new batch of profiles to work on to further improve the quality of our tree.

Are all England/county profiles being picked up by the new approach?

The answer to this question is 'no'. The new system is an improvement but there are still profiles that will slip through the net. There are ways members can clean up locations relatively easily.

  • The new Unknown Region ‘county’ contains profiles where the location is merely “England”; many are merely punctuation problems; and others are well-known towns and cities that need a county adding to the location field. It would help considerably for members to correct the location fields in this Unknown Region 'county' which will allocate these profiles to the appropriate county.

How can you help?

This Data Doctors report lists in birth date order 363 profiles where the Nofolk birth location is poorly formatted. The equivalent report can be run for other counties by replacing Norfolk (in the text box on the left hand side of the screen) with the name of the county you wish to work on.

Please change all poorly formatted location fields in line with our usual protocols. By doing this, you will be increasing the county total figures, and the profile will appear on future county reports for attention. Many of the profiles are unsourced. You can either

  • add a source, or
  • add an Unsourced template so that the profile can be revisited at a later stage.

Thanks for your help.





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If you are going to add non-historic counties such as Greater Manchester ( created 1974 ) and West Midlands ( created 1974 ) then please reinstate Bristol as a county in its own right ( created 1373 ). Hundreds of hours were spent categorising Bristol places and religious institutions ( eg Churches ) as being in Bristol County, as per the English project's category team's wishes. New districts were categorised according to the actual sources ( not transcriptions ) and corresponded to what people of the time actually called where they lived. This was undone and re-split into Glos. and Somerset , contrary to the Project's earlier discussions and decisions. It doesn't correspond to the sources, now. And the sources for Bristol will mostly be in the Bristol Archives, not the Gloucestershire ( or Somerset ) Archives.
posted by Joe Farler
Hi Joe, thanks for your message.

Apologies if there's been some confusion -- but this free space page is about the Regional and County Stats reports used by the England Project, not categorisation. As I understand it, profiles associated with Greater Manchester and West Midlands will continue to be categorisad based on the historic counties, as explained in English Place Name Categories.

When adding locations to the data fields at the top of profiles ... yes, we aim to use the name that was used in that place at the time of the event being recorded. We have recently updated the English profile standards to clarify that "Bristol, England" is the appropriate location to add for events within the City and County of Bristol. This already happens in the majority of cases. You can read more here: England Project - English Profile Standards.

Ian

posted by I. Speed
Thanks Ian, unfortunately profiles are being categorised using Greater Manchester and West Midlands, rather than the historic counties. Here's an example: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cannon-5873

Strangely it is a category for the churchyard rather than the church he got married in. He was buried in Essex.

Here's another example - the founder of Old Swinford Hospital, Worcestershire. categorised as West Midlands.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Foley-1224

posted by Joe Farler
edited by Joe Farler
If you are going to have Greater Manchester and West Midlands on the stats page, why not also Bristol ?

Why not make it easier to find unsourced or unconnected Bristol profiles ?

posted by Joe Farler
Thanks Stephen and Steve for clarifying all that. As TL for Gloucestershire I will be hitting those Bristol profiles with a vengeance!! 😜
What's happening about Bristol? My recollection is that it was being treated as a separate county because its status has changed several times over the centuries. We certainly have maintenance categories for it such as Bristol, Unsourced Profiles.

It doesn't appear in the statistics tables (and neither does the shortlived county of Avon). As a Data Doctor I've become accustomed to use "Bristol, England" in locations, is this wrong? If so what county should be used?

posted by John Elkin
edited by John Elkin
Please continue to use "Bristol, England" in the location fields: Categorisation in Bristol.
posted by Stephen Heathcote
If Bristol profiles are currently showing up in the 'Unknown Region' listings, then I would suggest changing the text above to say that these should not be changed.
posted by John Elkin
edited by John Elkin
Thanks for the comments John.

To confirm Stephen's point, "Bristol, England" is a recognised location and should not be changed. Suggestions, unsourced profiles for Bristol, England will be 'owned' by our Gloucestershire team.

I will review our various communications to cover this - thanks for pointing it out.

Regards Steve

posted by Steven Whitfield