Family Group 3 William W Woodall

Children and Other Family Members Listing

William Wagner Woodall would have been 12 years old in 1830, and in 1834 when the Trail of Tears began, he would have been 16. The Widow Rachel Smith and her children were in the 1830 Dekalb Census. William could/would have met Mamie Eliz, and helped them out with farming and such. They moved to Meriwhether, Ga around 1837, when the Trail of Tears was about over. He married Rachel Mamie "Elizabeth" Smith shortly thereafter, 1837 in Meriwhether Co. , and at that time there were no other Woodalls in the vincinity.

Spouse of William Wagner Woodall Elizabeth (Smith) Woodall (1816-1909)

Children from the marriage:

1. Daniel Anderson Woodall (1838-1895) married Mary Catherine (Phillips) Woodall (1844-1925)
2. William Andrew Woodall (1842-) married Henrietta White (1844-1894)
3. Rachel Caroline (Woodall) White (1845-1923) married Jacob Marion White (1840-1914)
4. James Henry Woodall (1849-1923) married Henrietta (Chapman) Woodall (1851-1931)
5. Charles Pickney Woodall (1856-1891) married Rachael (Grant) Woodall (1859-1922)

Did James Woodall Family Group 4B John that married Judith Sampson Hide/Adopt William Wagner Wooddall at the start of the Trail of Tears?

1. James Woodall (1765-1844)
2. Rebecca (Watson) Woodall (1783-abt.1818)

(Not verified yet)

William W Wooddall somehow got to Anderson Co., SC, and Rev. Morgan Wooddall took him in. Morgan Woodall is the son of John Woodall and Judith Pruitt. John is the son of Family Group 6 John Woodall that married Isbella Unknown and Judith Holmes. At least two sons of this Family Group 6 John Woodall married full-blooded Cherokee women. Thomas married Nanny Tadpole and George married Ellen Moore. These men, women and children would be Morgan Woodall's uncles and aunts. I have not research Morgan's mother or (from notes of Steven Woodall)

1. Morgan Woodall (1805-)

Inter-Family Connections

Between Family Group 3 William Wagner Woodall and Family Group 4 John Woodall and Lincy Harvey

Family Group 3 Daniel Anderson Woodall (1838-1895) son of William Wagner Woodall married Mary Catherine (Phillips) Woodall (1844-1925) the 4C3R of Family Group 4A Eleanor Patricia Woodall

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Native Ancestry and the Woodalls

William was a Q-M3 Native American, this means that his actual father was Native American. Thus the Family 3 designation. William would have been 13 at the start of the removal, the 1831–1850 "Trail of Tears". He is listed as the son of James Woodall (1765-1844) and his wife Rebecca (Watson) Woodall (1783-abt.1818), they married 13 May 1801 in Georgia. James is the son of John Woodall (married Dorothy Pledge) who is the son of Family 4B John Woodall and his wife Judith Sampson . William W Woodall's birthdate is listed as 5 Jun 1818 on his Tombstone, (reads William M. Woodall another mystery) and William is born 2 months after his adopted brother James M. Woodall (1818-1896) born 11 Apr 1818 on his tombstone. With William having such a precise birthdate, and place of birth so close to his adopted brother, it seems the Woodall's could have known William's father's family. Further investigation may open the way for answers. Also of note: Rebecca Watson, James's wife, passed away in the year 1818, the year both James Jr and William were born.

Researcher's Note

1. At this time and between these 2 Families, I am going to make a few writer statements. Progenitor John Woodall, who married Judith Sampson, had a son, John Woodall, who married Dorothy Pledge. This is about where the Poindexter Indian Claims are (give lee-way, I haven't finished studying) and it is his son James Woodall that took in William W. Woodall, the Native American boy, at the time of the Trail of Tears. In William W Woodall's write up, knowing the precise birthdate and location and two months after his adopted brother's birthdate (both written on their Tombstones). This could lead some people to the belief that James Woodall was associated somehow with William W. Woodall's Native American father. This again is at the time of the Poindexter Indian investigations. I will make more sense on this later.

UPDATE: Excerpt from the notes of Steve Woodall Notes for William Wagner Woodall *: WIlliam was a farmer. He could not write. During the Civil War William had a hole shot through the brim of his hat. This was according to Avie Woodall Hudson. In the United States Federal Census of 1880 William Wagner stated that his father was from South Carolina. In the same census of 1900 hestates that his father was from Georgia. Because the Indians were attempting to blend in with the white population it is possible that South Carolina was given as his fathers birth place so as to not let on that he was Indian. 7-7-2005 - The Death Certificate of James Henry Woodall's says tha this father was born in North Carolina. The family Bible is silent onthis issue. Family stories as passed down from William Wagner's son James Henry . Many show William’s father to be a James Woodall. This has been disproven by DNA. I believe that James Woodall hid William and his family during the Trail of Tears and we took the name Woodall from him. He (William Wagner) also supposedly had a brother named James. Again this is unproven.William is buried at Chana Creek Primitive Baptist Church, Eclectic, Alabama Elizabeth is buried in Rose Hill Cemetary, Elmore County,Alabama. They moved to Alabama sometime between 1873 and 1875. He was a farmer and could not write. There were ten children three of whom were living in 1900. During the Civil War William (Billie) had a hole shot through the brim of his hat, according to Avie Woodall Hudson. In 1850 he was a farmer. He moved to Alabama in 1882. William Woodall purchased 100 acres of land from James A Smith on Mar.21, 1870 Propery Description: Harris County, 2nd Dist., Lot 83, 100 acres. Purchase price was $500.00 Recorded in Book I page 283, Aug. 31, 1874 - Hamilton,Ga. Harris County In 2005 it was proven from DNA test done on Ronald Grady Woodall,Reggie Woodall and Gordon Woodall (all decended from William Wagner Woodall) that William Wagner was in fact 100% Native Indian. In 2006 William Allen Woodall, who decended from William Andrew Jackson Woodall took the DNA test. As expected his DNA matched the others.Also, in 2006 Ronald Steven Woodall took the DNA test and his matched as well. In May of 2006 after joining the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama, Steve's company Reliant Business Products achieved Minority Status from the Houston Minority Business Council. In the 1880 census William stated that his father was from South Carolina. In the 1900 census he stated that they were from Georgia. These fact indicate that William was 100% Cherokee Indian. Some members of the Cherokee Nation escaped the infamous Trail of Tears by hiding out in the mountainous backwoods and lowlands of the Southeast. Others fled from the march after it began and others simply walked away and came home after reaching Indian Territory. They kept to themselves, did not speak the language and did not teach it totheir children for fear the child might speak it in the presence of someone who would learn the secret of their ancestry. If this happened, they could immediately be taken into custody and sent to Indian Territory in the west. Everything they owned could be given away by the State. As much as possible these people assimilated into the white populace and claimed to be Black Dutch or some other type of European to explain their slightly darker color. Since nearly all work was doneoutdoors, most people had a tan anyway. However, most of us remember stories of our family members who always wore large straw hats and long sleeves in the summer because they did not want to become any darker than they already were.

Family 3 FTDNA Project Test Results

[1] Q1a3a1 Family 3 now consists of nine testees. All have a paper trail to John Woodall of Gennytoe Creek, Goochland County, and we were very surprised to see the prediction of a Haplogroup of Q3 also known as Q1a3a1 which is native American, or in other words, American Indian. This haplogroup is strictly associated with the indigenous peoples of the Americas and is defined by the genetic marker M3, which occurred on the Q lineage roughly 10-15 thousand years ago as the migration from Siberia into the Americas was in progress. The common ancestor of the men in Family Group 3 is a William Wagner Woodall who was born 5 June 1818 and was 100% Cherokee Indian. William could have obtained the Woodall surname by adoption or changed his name to Woodall. William was a farmer and later married a Mamie Elizabeth Smith. Together they had 10 children. In 1870 he purchased 100 acres of land in Harris County, Georgia. He died in 1906 in Alabama.

[2] Haplogroup Q3 is the only lineage strictly associated with native American populations. This haplogroup is defined by the presence of the M3 mutation (also known as SY103). This mutation occurred on the Q lineage 8-12 thousand years ago as the migration into the Americas was underway. There is some debate as to on which side of the Bering Strait this mutation occurred, but it definitely happened in the ancestors of the Native American peoples.

RootsWeb Oldest Ancestors Kits for William W. Woodall

Kit Number27213 and 57797

1. Generation - William Wagner Woodall, born 5 June 1818 in SC, married Mamie Elizabeth Smith in about 1837 in Meriwether Co., GA and died on 27 Jul 1906 in Tallassee, Elmore, AL.
2. Generation - James Henry Woodall, born 21 October 1847, married Henrietta Martha Jane Chapman on 12 January 1865 and died 15 December 1923 in Tallassee, AL. Henrietta was born 30 April 1851 in Meriwether Co., GA and died 7 April 1931 in Tallassee, AL.
3. Generation - Charles Pinckney Woodall, Sr., born 2 November 1867 in Talbot Co., GA, married Mary Elizabeth Stinchcomb on 10 January 1894, and died 20 October 1939 in Tallassee, AL. Mary died in Tallassee, AL.
4. Generation - Henry Grady Woodall, born 15 August 1904, married Lulline McNair on 30 June 1923, and died 7 September 1968 in Montgomery, AL. Lulline was born 7 February 1904 and died 23 February 1993.

Kit Number 62387

1. Generation - William Wagner Woodall, born 5 June 1818 in SC, married Mamie Elizabeth Smith in about 1837 in Meriwether Co., GA and died on 27 Jul 1906 in Tallassee, Elmore, AL.
2. Generation - William Andrew Jackson Woodall, born 31 Jan 1843 in Flint Hill, Talbot County, Ga, married Henrietta White and died 23 Jan 1923 in Tallassee, Elmore county, Alabama.
3. Generation - Byron Hardy Woodall, born 10 October 1881 in Coosa County, Alabama, married Mary Elizabeth Johnson and died 2 July 1949 in Alabama.
4. Generation - William Alexander Woodall, born 22 Feb 1907 in Elmore County, Alabama, married Mattie Lou Parker and died 13 sep 1944 in Tallaposa County, Alabama.

Kit Number 33237

1. Generation - William Wagner Woodall, born 5 June 1818 in SC, married Mamie Elizabeth Smith in about 1837 in Meriwether Co., GA and died on 27 Jul 1906 in Tallassee, Elmore, AL.
2. Generation - Daniel Anderson Woodall, born 29 March 1838 in Meriwether Co., GA, married Mary Catherine Phillips on 23 March 1860 in Talbot Co., GA and died 4 August 1895 in Equality, Coosa Co., AL. Mary Catherine was born in December 1844 in Warm Springs, GA.
3. Generation - John Quincey Woodall, born 7 October 1871 in Warm Springs, GA, married Martha Alzie B. Brown on 1 March 1893 in Elmore Co., AL who was born 10 July 1877.
4. Generation - Jessie Clarence Woodall, born 18 March 1899, married Nellie W. Wiggins on 31 October 1926 and died on 14 April 1992. Nellie died 30 April 1992.

Kit Number 33472

1. Generation - William Wagner Woodall, born 5 June 1818 in SC, married Mamie Elizabeth Smith in about 1837 in Meriwether Co., GA and died on 27 Jul 1906 in Tallassee, Elmore, AL.
2. Generation - Charles Pinckney Woodall, born 1856, married Rachel Emaline Grant on 27 December 1884 and died in 1890 in AL. Rachel was born 216 August 1859 and died 18 December 1922 in AL.
3. Generation - James Amzi Woodall, born 30 September 1886 in Dyke, AL, married Carrie Zimmerman Kidd on 30 June 1920 and died on 30 June 1948 in Montgomery AL.

Kit Numbers 38916

1. Generation - William Wagner Woodall, born 5 June 1818 in SC, married Mamie Elizabeth Smith in about 1837 in Meriwether Co., GA and died on 27 Jul 1906 in Tallassee, Elmore, AL.
2. Generation - James Henry Woodall, born 21 October 1847, married Henrietta Martha Jane Chapman on 12 January 1865 and died 15 December 1923 in Tallassee, AL. Henrietta was born 30 April 1851 in Meriwether Co., GA and died 7 April 1931 in Tallassee, AL.
3. Generation - Jacob Marion Woodall, born 9 August 1878, Dyke, AL, married Jessoe Gunter, and died 3 January 1928 in Tallassee, AL.
4. Generation - Harold Rex Woodall, born 8 May 1911, Tallassee, AL, married 15 August 1904, married Nora Gertrude Wadsworth, and died 5 Jul 1968 in AL.

Other Information

• At some point, James Woodall (1765-1844) grandson of John Woodall Jr. (abt.1710-aft.1788) and Judith Sampson Woodall through John and Dorothy Pledge Family 4 is associated with William as his father. More information coming.
• William Wagner Woodall's Tombstone on Find-A-Grave reads "William M. Woodall". It is distinctive!
• Trail of Tears years were 1831 to 1850, when William would have been 13 to 32, James Woodall (1765-1844) his adoptive parent arrive in Georgia by 1801 when he married his wife in Marion, Georgia.
• Another curious fact is that William's brother James M. Woodall (1818-1896) is born 11 Apr 1818 in Georgia , while William W Woodall (1818-1906) is born 5 Jun 1818 in McIntosh County, Georgia.