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Frankland/Pollit Census Notes

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Census and other record matches for tracing Joseph Frankland (Frankland-302).

1901 census gives Age 59, Birth Bolton-by-Bowland[sic], Yorkshire. 1911 census gives Age 73, Birth Gisburn, Yorkshire. Those places are nearby.

Likely Marriage Record: 13 Jun 1863 Clitheroe 8e 296: Joseph Frankland / Betsey Pollit. I have seen the names Clitheroe and Pollit both come up in other searches for Joseph.; full image here[1] Corroboration: occupation Game Keeper; ages and profession do match the Scotland Census. Residence - Grove Row, Chipping, Lancaster. His father is given as Henry Frankland; hers as Joseph Pollit.

In the 1851 census Yorkshire > Easington > Gisburn > 1b, there is Joseph Frankland age 12, born Bolton , but his parents are Thomas Frankland(50, farmer, b.Bolton) and Ellen(30, b.Haidburn). It must not be his first wife given that their eldest son is 22. However, this conflicts with the "Likely marriage record" I have marked below.

The 1851 census also has: Yorkshire>Grindleton, Joseph Frankland age 12 , b. Clitheroe, Lancashire; parents Joseph Frankland(48, stonemason) andMargaret Frankland(39, b.Grindleton). Again this does not match the marriage record citing Henry Frankland as father.

  • This one has a matching 1841 entry where he is age 3; elder brok Charles(6), sister Sarah Jane(7mo)
  • This one seems to also occur in the 1871 census for England which rules him out of being our guy who was in Scotland at the time. He also appears in 1881, his wife is Eliza Jane.

The 1861 England census has the following entry: Yorkshire>Gisburn Forest. Henry Frankland(77, b.Bolton-by-Bowland), Ann(63, wife, b.Grindleton), William (son, 30, Gisburn Forest), Joseph (son, 22, Gisburn Forest). This is surely the same person as the 1901/11 censes which is very promising for the marriage record.

In the 1871 Scotland Census (I have saved image), looked up because of citing Elizabeth as born in Muirkirk there is this family:

  • Joseph Frankland, Head, 31, Game Keeper, born in England
  • Betsy Frankland, Wife, 30, born in England
  • Mary do., Dau, 7, do.
  • Hannah do., Dau, 3, do.
  • Joseph Henry do., 1, do.

~~although the last entry must be in error as there is a scotlandspeople birth record for Joseph Henry~~, later showing as deceased. --- no such birth entry; in fact there is one at St Michael.

However no scotlandspeople entry exists for Elizabeth.

There is a baptism record 27 Oct 1867 on Lan-OPC for Hannah Franklin - Child of Joseph Franklin Game Keeper & Betsy -- this must be correct (thanks fuzzy search!!) Bapt at St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire. There is a matching LancBMD birth record for Hannah Frankland, MMN Pollit, St. Michael Preston. Hurrah!

In the 1881 UK census we have in Preston, Lancashire: this entry -- was not found under Joseph due to transcription error, but found under Elizabeth: Joseph Frankland(39, Licenced Victualler), b. Harrogate Yorkshire); Sarah(wife,38,b.Chipping, Lancaster); Mary (dau,16,milliner, Chipping); Annie(dau,14,dressmaker,b.Chipping); Elizabeth(dau,10,Scholar,Scotland);Edward Eccles(Boarder,40, Polloc Maker STW, chipping).

That is uncomfortably close to the details we want: Annie/Hannah could be misheard; Sarah could either be another name for Betsey, or a new wife. But the birth places are freaky: Hannah should be St Michael, Preston but it says Chipping which is not really anywhere near. Harrogate,Yorks is a long way from Gisburn Forest. And Joseph is now a landlord, rather than a gamekeeper.

But I tend to think it's real, how many families would have had all kids born Lancashire except one called Elizabeth born in Scotland in 1873?

So far we haven't had any birthplace for Betsey (the Scotland census didn't take it, and the marriage record only gave current residence of Brindle).


There is a Lancs BMD record for Elizabeth Pollit b.1840, mmn Lund, at Haslingden Preston Lancs. Possible anc tree for Elizabeth Pollitt daughter of Joseph, b. Haslingdeon 1841.

Also, 1842 Elizabeth Pollitt, MMN Banks, at Elton. And some others.

And 1842 Betsey Rebecca Pollitt, MMN Green

Contents

Betsy census

1861 census only has one Joseph father of Betsy: Haslingden (Lancashire - Rumworth - All - 7f): Joseph Pollitt (60, farmer, b. Rishton); Elizabeth, Dau, 20, Dairy maid, b. Haslingden, James , Son, 18 b.do; Mary dau 16 b.do, Hannah Alice dau 14b.do

1851 nothing matching.

1841 Haslingden there is Joseph Pollit, 40 Publican; Mary 40; Alice 5; John 3; Elizabeth 1.


Other references

In Gale's there are various cases of Joseph Frankland, Gamekeeper:

  • 26 Feb 1876 - Great Harwood, Blackburn
  • 9 Dec 1876 - Great Harwood, Blackburn
  • 30 Jun 1877 - Great Harwood, Blackburn
  • 27 Oct 1877 - Great Hardwood, Blackburn
  • 5 Jan 1878 - Great Harwood, Blackburn
  • 3 Jul 1872 - Betsy Frankland and Ellen Quinlan were charged with being drunk and fighting in Greaves-street (Blackburn). Frankland was described as a "carder".

Sarah Singleton

I wrote out a bunch of notes but lost them when the page crashed. Anyway, there was a 1873 death for Betsey Frankland, and an 1874 marriage Joseph Frankland - Sarah Singleton. Details were credible, incl matching the 1881 census correctly; there's a birth of Sarah Singleton in Chipping in the right year; the marrage was at Blackburn where he had a game reserve accounting to the newspapers.

She is found in the 1861 census.

Sources

  1. "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXGM-QXF : 12 March 2020), Betsey Pollit in entry for Joseph Frankland, 1863.




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