Gardner Green-38090

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This page contains the full text of the narrative of Gardner Green as of 17 May 2023 prior to returning it to its 2022 condition:

Contents 1 Disputed Origins 2 Biography 3 Research Notes 4 Sources

Disputed Origins

This person's existence and relationships were introduced by about 200 descendants who attempted to claim a share of the 1907 Eastern Cherokee payment by asserting that their ancestor born in the early 1700’s was the same man as a Cherokee person born in the early 1800’s. Don Greene in his book, Shawnee Heritage embellished the claims further. The Missouri man was not Cherokee, was not named Youngwolf, and was not a Chief.

"I concur Don Greene's book is a sham. I talked to him on the phone and he knew nothing about my Gardner Green family from Lunenburg VA. He basically copied my research, and added some "Native American" sounding names. This does not mean that this Gardner Green was not Native American or our family where liars. They were related to the White Top Laurel Cherokee Sizemore's and were part NA. I'm a direct descendant and show NA DNA on Ancestry. You can't argue the DNA." - Troy Sims (grandson of Golden Green, and 7th great grandson of this Gardner Green)

Biography

Gardner Green(e) was supposedly born about 1735 (possibly in North Carolina) and died in Missouri. The parents and siblings attached to this profile appear to be inventions of Don Greene. Gardner Green does not appear in any census records in North Carolina, (*Not True: see below 1780 Rowan NC) Tennessee, Kentucky, or Missouri, all places he is claimed to have lived. A newspaper article in 1908 described "the only person living who saw him," descendant Nancy Green. Nancy was 80 years old in 1908 and stated that Gardiner had visited her family "when she was a child 65 years ago," meaning he was still alive in 1843, which is very unlikely. It appears Ms. Green was confused about whom she met. ^[1] Several other descendants stated that he had died before 1830.

1764 --- Lunenburg Co., VA Tithe list of St. James Parish, Lunenburg Co., VA. John Green Gardiner Green 2 Tithes 157 Acres ' - Troy Sims

1769/22/Feb. SC Deed Abstracts Vol.IV p.189- Book V3 pp.367-372 L&R James JOHNSTON to THOMAS FRANKLIN both of Granville Co., SC. (Receipt says paid by Solomon WOOD) 100A on the CHEROKEE PONDS in Granville Co. granted 1 Feb. 1768 to James JOHNSTON surveyed on"warrant of William COCHRAM", bounding on all sides on vacant land. Witnesses: ISSUM FRANKLIN MESHACK GREEN HENRY SIZEMORE' Before Lewis POWELL, J.P. on 3 Mar. 1769. Rec. 14 Aug. 1771 - Troy Sims

1772 - Mecklenburg Co., VA DB3-483 Recorded: 9N OV 1772 John Busby of South Carolina to William Sizemore of Mecklenburg for 100 pounds, 200 acres on both sides of Great Buffalo Cr, bounded by Henry Green, Poindexter, William Griffin, Adrian, and Signed – John Busby. Wit – Gardner Green, Edward (ME his mark) Ware, John (I his mark) Sizemore ' - Troy Sims

1777 --- Williamsburg, VA Williamsburg, Sept. 18, 1777 Deserted from the Mecklenburg company of regulars belonging to this state the following soldiers, viz. James Hudson, Thomas Sutton, Garner Green, Richard Melton, Nehemiah Matthews, Nathan Russell, and Page Pucket, natives of said county. ' - Troy Sims

1779: This land was confiscated from Garnder Green and sold: 10 Nov 1779 Mecklenburg Land Office Patents B, 1779-1780, p. 15 Wm. Marrable Afsn. Of Gardener Green Thomas Jefferson Esquire governer of the Commonwealth of Virginia to all whom these presents shall come Greetings. Know ye that for consideration of the Ancient Composition of ten Shillings Sterling paid by William Marrable afsigne of Gardener Green into the treasury of this Commonwealth, there is granted by the Said Commonwealth, unto the Said Wm. Marrable afsigny of Gardener Green a certain tract or parcel of land. Containing by survey made the 30th April 1772 Eighty Six acres lying and being in the County of Mecklenburg on the waters of Buffalo Beginning at Taylors Corner pointers and Running in his line South Seventy Degrees West thirty one poles to John Westmorelands Corner, thence in the said Westmorelands line North Seventeen Degrees West one hundred and sixty two poles to his and griffins Corner Red oak, thence on Griffins line North ten Degrees east fifty Eight poles to his Corn. Pointers on greens line, thence on his line South thirty one Degrees East forty two poles to a hickory South fifty Seven Degrees, East Sixty three poles to a white oak. North Sixty Six Degrees, East Eleven poles, to his and Taylors Corn. Black Jack, thence on Taylors line to the beginning, with its appurtenances to have and to hold the Said tract or parcel of land, with its appurtenances to the said William Marrable afsignee of Gardiner Green, and his heirs forever In Witnefs whereof the said Thomas Jefferson Esq Governor of the Commonwealth of virginia hath hereunto Set his hand and caused the Seal of the Said Commonwealth to be affixed at Williamsburg on the tenth day of November in the year of our lord one thousand seven hundred & Seventy nine & of the Commonwealth the fourth. Tho Jefferson ' - Troy Sims

* In response to the above statement that Gardner Green was not in NC; 7 Feb 1780 Rowan Co., NC Land Entries (LDS 0019730) #2439 Gardner Green enters 150 acres of land in Rowan County on a branch of Muddy Creek joining an old survey & the new survey of the Moravian lands & the county line above an old road including his improvements - Feb 7th, 1780 (Probably near Clemmonstown in modern Forsyth Co., NC.) -Troy SIms

*The Moravians had Native American and Cherokee Schools. It's possible that Gardner Green was closely affiliated with the Moravians and the Cherokee in Rowan NC. Given Gardner's connection to "Ned" Sizemore, and Edward Vann, Edward Vann's children being schooled at the Moravian School at Springplace GA, this is very plausible. I find a Conrad Green on the Moravian Records in Rowan NC. This may be in reference to Gardner Green. "Young Wolf" at Springplace GA had a reference of Conrad his father visiting him,.

Gardner GREEN in SC RW, Edward Sizemore (Hung by Benjamin Cleveland in Wilkes NC), and Cherokee Edward VANN"

1780 --- District 96, SC 14 June to 13 December 1780 Pay Abstract Nr. 5, Col. John Cotton's Regiment, Stevenson's Creek Militia, Ninety Six Brigade Captain John Helen's Company, those who came to Orangeburg, SC, with Lieut Colonel John H. Cruger 183 days pay, 14 Jun - 13 Dec 1780, to be paid on 10 Nov 1781. Lieutenant Green, Gardiner Pvt. Busby, Jacob Pvt. Busby, John Pvt. Sizemore, Edward Pvt. Sizemore, George Pvt. Thompson, William Pvt. Green, John Boatwright, Ambrose (witness to will of Francis Griffin, Gardner Green's Uncle) Lieutenant VANN Edward 90 (Edward Vann married Mary Barnes) Private Vann Isaac 94 P rivate VANN Jesse" - Troy SIms

Gardner Shadrack Green changed allegiance: [p 2] No. 50 [Book] U [No.] 614 16th July 85 [1785] Mr. Shadrach G, Green his Account of Duty in the Militia as Private since the reduction of Chs. Town [Charleston South Carolina fell to the British on May 12, 1780] Amounting to [old South Carolina] Currency £15.10 Stg. [Sterling] £2.4.3 ¼ Exd . W.R. [Examined by W. R. [identity unknown]] J. Mc . A.G. [approved by] John McCall, Adjutant General] [p 3] State South Carolina Dr. [Debtor] to Shadrach Green for Duty per Col. Anderson’s [Robert Anderson’s] Return [not extant] £15.10/ Stg. £2.4.3 ¼ Received 30th April 1790 full satisfaction for this Account in an Indent No. 614 Book U by virtue of an Order S/ Larkin Tarant [p 4] February 22, 1790 Gentlemen, Please to Send my Indent Certificate by Mr. Isham Franklin for services done in Colonel Hammon’s [either Samuel Hammond or his uncle LeRoy Hammond’s] Regiment in your Honors will Confer a favor on your Humble Servant S/ Shadrack Green, X his mark Gentlemen Treasurers at Columbia The above Assignation was made before me 22nd of February 1790 S/ A. Blackburn, J ' - Troy Sims

21 Dec 1787 Vol. 24, Page 69 Plat map for the land of Isom Franklin(g) on Little Brush Creek a branch of the Saluda River in District 96, SC shows adjoining property as "Laid out to Gardner Green". ' - Troy Sims

"Year: 1790 State: South Carolina County: Orangeburgh Sheet No: 250 Reel no: M637-11 District: South Enumerated by: Daniel Green Transcribed by Cheryl Hill for USGenWeb, http://www.usgwcensus.org/. Copyright: 2003

39 | George Sizemore | 2 2 | 5 | 0 | 0 | S256 | 40 | Benjamin Kirkland | 3 4 | 3 | 0 | 0 | K624 | 41 | William Green | 5 2 | 6 | 0 | 4 | G650 | 42 | John Randel | 2 4 | 6 | 0 | 2 | R534 | 43 | Edward, Sen'r. Van | 2 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | V500 | 44 | Edward, Jun'r. Van | 1 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | V500 | 45 | Martin Cloud | 1 1 | 1 | 0 | * | C430 | *Unreadable" ' - Troy Sims

1790: Pendleton District, SC Deeds 1790-1806 22 Jul. 1790 Thomas Coker of Abbeville Co., S.C. to John Green of Greenville Co.,S.C., for £10 50 Acres on Hurricane Creek, South side of Saluda River, part of tractgranted to Thomas Coker, whereon he now lives. Recorded Bk. YYYY, p. 408, 22 Jan. 1789, bd. Crawfish Branch, JohnJohnston. Wit: Meshack Green Lewis Green James Sizemore Lewis Green' made oath 22 Jul. 1790 - Troy Sims

1799 --- Greenville Co., SC Edward Nelson to Lewis Green 12 Sep 1799 Greenville Co., SC Deeds: Book E, P. 399-400 Edward Nelson to Lewis Green, for $40, 70 Acres, being a part of 220 Acres conveyed to me by William Whaley 6 Aug 1798, bounding Matthew Sparks, Elias Wright, Kelley, Roe and Edward Nelson. Witnesses: Gardner Green, Allen Green, John Sparks. Date of execution: 12 Sep. 1799. Date of record: 8 May 1800. Signed: Edward Nelson, Proved before James Kilgore ' - Troy Sims

Cherokee by Blood Volume III 1906-1910 Misc. Test P. 2129 Nancy C. Martin Appl. 31279 "Gardner Green's wife was Margaret Coil" ' - Troy Sims

Some of his descendants tried to obtain Cherokee land in Indian Territory in 1896 and were unsuccessful. According to affidavits filed in connection with their Indian claims (and accounts vary), Gardner was the father of Benjamin, ^[2] William, ^[3] Isaac, ^[4] Letha, and Mossie. ^[5] Son Benjamin was reported to be 70 or 75 in 1835 and was supposedly born in Tennessee. A 1908 newspaper article said that Benjamin lived near Sturgeon, Missouri and died in 1840, ^[6] but his granddaughter Louisa Ketchum stated that he died about 1847. ^[7]

Research Notes

In 1907 over 200 people, descendants of the white man named Gardner Green, filed applications for a share of the Eastern Cherokee payment. They all claimed that the Missouri man was the same person as Young Wolf aka Gardiner Greene. All claims were rejected. Guion Miller's analysis and response to the claims is included with application #5145, William Neal. Digitized at Fold3 beginning at Guion Miller. This Blog by Twila "Polly's Granddaughter" walks through how any possible Gardner Green of Missouri could not have been Young Wolf Gardiner Greene of Cherokee Nation.

The Cherokee Gardiner Green/Young Wolf was born in 1809 in the Cherokee Nation, the son of a man named Mouse. He enrolled in the Moravian missionaries' school at Spring Place (now Georgia) in 1819, at the age of ten. ^[8] His parents were unable to afford school clothes for their son, so he left the school in 1822. The Moravians had received an offer from an anonymous donor to pay for a student's education, as long as he would be renamed Gardiner Greene ; the donor was believed to be Gardiner Greene, a merchant of Boston. After much discussion the Moravians agreed to accept the gift and offer it to Young Wolf so that he could return to school. ^[9]

There are a number of men named Gardner/Gardiner Green living in the southeast at this time. Gardiner Green appears on a list of tithables with John Green in Lunenburg County, Virginia in 1764, meaning he was born by 1748. ^[10] Someone named John Green died in Lunenburg in 1768 and left a will but did not list a son named Gardiner.

South Carolina land records ^[11] and the 1800 U.S. Census place a Gardner Green (age 45+) in Greenville, South Carolina. ^[12]

Sources

1. ↑ Moberly Weekly Monitor, Moberly, MO. August 28, 1908. Nancy
2. ↑ "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH2C-7YQ : accessed 30 June 2022), Benjamin Green, Henry, Kentucky, United States; citing p. 360, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 6; FHL microfilm 181,351.
3. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHLJ-MQM : accessed 30 June 2022), Wm Green, New Castle, Henry, Kentucky, United States; citing p. , NARA microfilm publication , (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll ; FHL microfilm .
4. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHLN-1V6 : accessed 30 June 2022), Isaac Green, Senior, New Castle, Henry, Kentucky, United States; citing p. , NARA microfilm publication , (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll ; FHL microfilm .
5. ↑ National Archives and Records Administration, Eastern Cherokee Applications of the Court of Claims. Application #5145, William Neal. Digitized at Fold3, images begin at: Neal
6. ↑ Moberly Weekly Monitor, Moberly, MO. August 25, 1908
7. ↑ Eastern Cherokee affidavit Louisa
8. ↑ Feb. 1819, "On the 2nd of this month, a man named Mouse brought us one of his sons whose name is Young Wolf... " Crews, Daniel and Starbuck, Richard, ed. Records of the Moravians Among the Cherokees. Cherokee Heritage Press, Tahlequah, OK. Vol. 4, p. 2296
9. ↑ Crews, Daniel and Starbuck, Richard, ed. Records of the Moravians Among the Cherokees. Cherokee Heritage Press, Tahlequah, OK. pp. 3056, 3063, 3084, 3090.
10. ↑ "Sunlight on the Southside" Landon Bell, compiler. 1931. p. 251, transcribed at Sunlight
11. ↑ Greenville County, South Carolina Register Mesne Conveyance Deed Book F, pages 443-444. witness to deed along with Lewis Green.
12. ↑ "United States Census, 1800," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHRH-T6G : accessed 3 July 2022), Gardner Green, Greenville, South Carolina, United States; citing p. 258, NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 47; FHL microfilm 181,422.