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Gateway Ancestors are descendants of Magna Carta Surety Barons

The WikiTree Category "Category: Gateway Ancestors" refers to Colonial immigrants descended from Magna Carta surety barons, as documented in Douglas Richardson's book, Magna Carta Ancestry pub. 2011.
Those Gateway Ancestors are the focus of this project (see list, below).
The term "gateway ancestor" is also used by genealogists to designate descendants of royalty. For purposes of this project, the term is limited to the use Douglas Richardson gives it - American colonists who arrived before 1700 and who are descended from a Magna Carta surety baron, documented in Magna Carta Ancestry - A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson. They are also included in Douglas Richardson's 2013 Royal Ancestry: a Study in Colonial & Medieval Families, Vols. 1-5. Either of these two sets by Douglas Richardson are preferred for source documentation on Gateway Ancestors.
Google Books has a free search of Magna Carta Ancestry and Mr. Marlyn Lewis' website includes some Gateway Ancestors and all of the Magna Carta barons - two free alternatives to purchasing the books.

Links to WikiTree's Magna Carta Project

  • Magna Carta Team Base Camp - this is where we track completed trails and trails under construction, from Gateway Ancestors to their Magna Carta surety baron ancestors.

Gateway Ancestors List

The following profiles are within the scope of the Magna Carta Project.

This list is derived from Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry (2011), Vol. 1, page xxiii. Note: The list has been augmented by names included in Richardson's Royal Ancestry (2013).

Married women are listed in two places : under their LNAB and also their married surname.

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Additional Gateway Ancestors (to be confirmed)

Profiles listed below are not on Richardson's list but may have sufficient documentation to show they are linked to the Surety Barons. Once confirmed they are moved to the confirmed Gateway Ancestors list. Please add your ancestor's name below and link their name to their profile. To be confirmed, documentation needs to be on the profile and on each of the profiles that link them to Surety Barons. Include a section on the profile listing the names linking to the barons, (in link format to make it easy to evaluate and confirm).

Prideaux

  • Edward Prideaux and his brother James Prideaux, both of Camborne, Cornwall. Their descendants became Cornish miners, some of whom migrated to southwestern Wisconsin, USA, in the 1830s and 1840s. My research has established (at least to my own satisfaction) that they are great-grandsons of Ann Moyle, who has proven descents through her mother and grandmother from Bigod, Clare, Malet, Quincy, and William Marshal. -- John Schmeeckle
I have put my evidence for their ancestry on the workbook page.

Awbrey

Henry Awbrey, John Awbrey, and Thomas Awbrey are ready for review. These sons of William Awbrey are Gateway Ancestors connected to Magna Carta surety baron Saher de Quincy as follows:
  1. their mother was Elizabeth (Johnes) Awbrey,
  2. Elizabeth was the daughter of Thomas Johnes,
  3. Thomas was the son of Henry Jones,
  4. Henry was the son of Mary Berkeley,
  5. Mary was the daughter of Susan FitzAlan,
  6. Susan was the daughter of William FitzAlan,
  7. William was the son of Joan Neville (badged),
  8. Joan was the daughter of Richard Neville (a badged descendant of MCSB de Quincy)
I have posted this also to the workbook page. Documentation is on each profile. I did not copy the above to each profile (as I had received guidance from Peter about such lists on profiles: "please don't"). Noland-165 01:01, 17 May 2015 (EDT)
Henry Awbrey, John Awbrey, and Thomas Awbrey are now in Category:Prospective Magna Carta Gateway Ancestors; see also this G2G discussion

From JSS: There is another lineage that also quickly connects to Richardson:

Henry, John and Thomas Awbrey, immigrants to Virginia
  1. their mother was Elizabeth (Johnes) Awbrey,
  2. Elizabeth was the daughter of Thomas Johnes,
  3. Thomas was the son of Elizabeth Herbert, wife of Henry Jones,
  4. Elizabeth was the daughter of Matthew Herbert, who is mentioned with ancestry in Douglas Richardson's books.

Potential Gateway Ancestors (more research needed)

I have put what evidence I have for their ancestry on the Potential Gateway Ancestors page; hopefully others will eventually come along and add to it or provide contradictory evidence.


If anyone knows of contradictory evidence to any current profiles in our project or potentially in our project, please add it to Popular Errors.


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  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 No known Colonial descendants
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 No issue, or no surviving issue
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 Immigrated after 1700, or may have
  4. Only his maternal ancestry is covered by Richardson. There are many more lines on his father's side.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.7 Gateway not covered in Magna Carta Ancestry (2011); added from Royal Ancestry (2013)
  6. Caution: there are two John Washington profiles, not duplicates - see Virginia Magazine ref.
  7. Caution: there are two Lawrence Washington profiles, not duplicates - see Virginia Magazine ref.



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Barons and Bishops watch King John sign Magna Carta
Barons and Bishops watch King John sign Magna Carta

Collaboration

On 2 Jan 2019 at 17:29 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

I may have misunderstood Irene's question. I responded on her profile with information about descendant stickers. I was going to post here about the list of names posted here was based on the Gateway Ancestors listed by Ricahrdson in his Magna Carta Ancestry and Royal Ancestry and is currently pretty much static, but none of the surnames she mentions are listed.

On 2 Jan 2019 at 15:55 GMT Irene Stone wrote:

I am descended from the Davis, Stone, Towne, Nurse families listed, and my children also have the Guild family listed (Samuel and Gregory). What is the best way for me to note that - and where? I also note that singular members of the families are listed, but not siblings. What is the proof required for a sibling whose parent is listed, to become listed?

On 27 Oct 2018 at 02:23 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Adding Gateway Ancestors to the scope of the project can be done after the trail for that person has been developed (primary sources required for relationships not documented in Richardson's works).

On 26 Oct 2018 at 13:09 GMT Mohammed Ludwick wrote:

Is there a procedure for adding a person to the list of gateway ancestors?

Harlan-32, Moses Harlan, emigrated from Ireland to Pennsylvania, and was the great-great grandson of John Calvert, who is on many of the same lines as the Calverts on this list.

On 29 Sep 2018 at 23:12 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

I'm not a manager of this page, so I don't receive a notice that a comment has been posted to this page.

To all who would like to have an ancestor added as a Gateway Ancestor... The subproject that worked on that is no longer active. See Category:Questionable Gateway Ancestors for details.

While it is possible to have a non-Richardson profile added to the project's Gateway Ancestors, each generation from the proposed Gateway to a profile that is documented by Richardson as a descendant of a Surety Baron, you need a primary source to prove the relationship.

@ Carolyn: I looked at several generations up from Parsons-882 and none had good sources (citing "Our Kingdom Come..." and an Ancestry link isn't enough - if either gave a source, you need to cite the that source, crediting the book or Ancestry).

Cheers, Liz

On 29 Sep 2018 at 21:21 GMT Carolyn O'Connor wrote:

Should Parsons-882 be added to this list? It also looks like all the Magna Carta Surety Barons are related to each other and to King John.

On 28 Jul 2018 at 20:10 GMT John M. Switlik wrote:

I will dig deeper, but I put a kudos for you guys on Quora.

https://www.quora.com/Have-you-found-any-interesting-family-history-on-the-free-website-FamilySearch-org/answer/John-M-Switlik

I just picked Christopher Batt randomly. And, followed three clicks back to Bigod which allowed me to remind every English person to remember William Marshal who kept us from having to speak French.

Very impressive. I have answered several questions on the Magna Carta and will use WikiTree henceforth.

On 28 May 2018 at 03:15 GMT Cassandra Scott wrote:

I am directly related to all but one of the Magne Carte barons (the other is a first cousin 28 times removed). Is this common?

On 10 May 2018 at 03:49 GMT J Briller wrote:

Should (Brewster-622) Rev. Nathaniel Brewster's child(ren) (Abigail, possibly Sarah, and possibly Timothy) by his first marriage also be included here? If the profile for Abigail Reymes is correct, her g-g-g-g-grandmother was Elizabeth Boleyn, descended from Plantagenet kings and at least two Surety Barons, Henry de Bohun and Saher Quincy. Abigail's children would have been the first generation of her, possibly royal, line to immigrate as they are all presumed to have been born in England.

Just for clarity, Nathaniel Brewster's second wife was Sarah Ludlow, whose father is already on this list.

On 3 May 2018 at 18:44 GMT S. Small wrote:

About James Blount: there are wills that link all the ancestors from James back to Walter Blount, son of Sir Thomas Blount and Anne Croft. (Beyond that I think it is pretty well documented.) James Blount who came to Va. and NC is mentioned by name in his uncle's will. In it he is described as "one of the sons of my late brother James Blount" and is said to be living beyond the sea. There are wills for everyone except Jame's father, but his uncle's will names both of them. All of the wills can be viewed via links on this website: http://www.lamartin.com/genealogy.aspx

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