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Gilbert Name Study - DNA Lineage 07

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Y-DNA Haplogroup R-M269 : GROUP 05: Guildford Co., NC Line

Contents

Introduction

This is a DNA Lineage Page of the Gilbert Name & DNA Study

The 7 kits below in the 2 groups all match DNA-wise and form what we currently call the Edward Gilbert of Guildford Co., NC line.

Guildford NC Line

  • 1 Edward Gilbert b. abt. 1725 in NC d. 1782 in Guilford, NC
    • 2 William Gilbert b. 1758 in NC d. 1830 in Gwinnett, GA m. Tamar Strickland 1785
      • 3 Jacob Gilbert b. 1802 in GA prob. d. AL (DYS456 25 > 24)
        • 4 David Gilbert b. May 1827 Carroll Co., GA d: circa 1915 Walker Co., AL
          • 5 David W. Gilbert b. Feb 1859 Marion Co. AL d: 05/02/1943 Walker Co., AL
            • 6 Roe Chester Gilbert b. Feb. 14, 1894 Walker Co., AL d. 03/11/1969 Walker Co. AL
              • 7 James Edgar Gilbert b: 12/28/1915 Walker Co., AL d. 10/26/1994 Jefferson Co., AL
                • 8 Kit 123279 (Tested to 37 markers)
            • 6 McKinley Gilbert b. 01/01/1896 in Walker Co., AL d. 11/14/1944 in Winston Co., AL
              • 7 Kit 79470 (Tested to 37 markers)
        • 4 Alexander "Alec" Gilbert b. 11 Feb 1830 GA d. 23 Oct 1862 Vicksburg, MS
          • 5 Thomas Richard Gilbert b. 21 Aug 1857 Lamar Co., AL d. Feb 1901 Pushmataha Co., OK
            • 6 Thomas Franklin Gilbert b. 15 Jan 1892 Nolan Co., TX d. 11 Mar 1979 Stephens Co., OK
              • 7 Kit 345840 (Tested to 37 markers)
      • 3 William H. Gilbert b. 1815 in TN or GA d. abt. 1855 Tallapoosa, AL
        • 4 John F. Gilbert b. 1848 Tallapoosa, AL d. 1900 in Leake, MS
          • 5 William H. Gilbert b. 1870 Tallapoosa, AL d. 1942 in Attala, MS
            • 6 Robert B. Gilbert b. 1904 in Leake, MS d. 1966 in Attala, MS
              • 7 Kit 48510 (Tested to 37 markers)
      • 3 John Milledge Gilbert Strickland b. Jul. 21, 1811 GA d. Oct. 17, 1895 Whitesburg, Carroll Co., GA
        • 4 Private
          • 5 Private
            • 6 Kit 198668 (Tested to 37 markers)

Further Information on John Milledge Gilbert Strickland

John was born out-of-wedlock to Barsheba Strickland. Undocumented family histories indicated he was a descendant of the William Gilbert b. 1758 (husband of Tamar Strickland), but current researchers had no proof. The DNA results support this theory.

The following kit matches this family line with an unknown connection. James W. Gilbert is consistently stated as having been born in Virginia in censuses, but can be found in Franklin Co., PA by the 1840 census. Franklin County is not far from West Virginia, and it's possible that's where James was born.

  • 1 James W. Gilbert b. 1812 Virginia d. 1890 Franklin Co., PA
    • 2 Michael Alvin Gilbert b. 1849 Franklin Co., PA d. 1916 Franklin Co., PA
      • 3 David Hughes GIlbert b. 1876 Franklin Co., PA d. 1949 Chemung Co., NY
        • 4 Harold Michael Gilbert b. 1905 Tucker Co., WV d. 1983 Chemung Co., NY
          • 5 Kit 365212 (Tested to 67 markers)

Genetic Distance

The following communication is from Family Tree DNA explaining why the genetic distance between Kit 48510 and Kit 79470 should be considered three instead of the apparent six or seven.
"This is an interesting case. These two males have a genetic distance of one at CDY a and b (although it is counted as two, since there is a one step difference at CdY a and b, it should be considered one) that is being scored as two. Additionally, current research has shown that mutations that occur at 464 and CDY a and b may occur at the same due to their location on the Y-DNA (close to the markers responsible for sperm genesis which seem to cause more mutations in the passing of mutations at 464 and CDY a and b) so while genetic distance is technically 5, I would consider the changes to have happened at 464 and CDY a and b to have happened at the same time and would list the genetic distance at 3 on these 37 markers."

Texas Lines

The following kit also matches the Guilford Co., NC family line. William Gilbert, patriarch of this branch, can be found in the 1850 and 1860 Federal Census in Chambers Co., AL.

  • 1 William Gilbert b. ca. 1788 NC or SC prob. died in AL
    • 2 Wiley Green Gilbert b. 1820 GA d. 1868 Smith Co., TX
      • 3 William H. Gilbert b. 1850 AL d. 1899 Van Zandt Co., TX
        • 4 Julius Mills Gilbert b. 1878 Van Zandt Co., TX d. 1953 Van Zandt Co., TX
          • 5 Loy Julius Gilbert b. 1914 Van Zandt Co., TX d. 2007 Smith Co., TX
            • 6 Kit 970969 (Tested to 37 markers)

The following is a further matching line that cannot yet be linked

  • 1 Mathew Gilbert b. poss c.1835 in Georgia, USA
    • 2 Robert Lemuel Gilbert b. 1868 TX d. 1939 Decatur, TX
      • 3 Ira Gilbert b. 1890 Paradise, Wise, Texas
        • 4 Private
          • 5 Kit 395579 (Big-Y 700 tested)




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