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Edward Gilman (abt.1525-bef.1573)
Rose (Ryse) Snell (abt.1529-1613)

Edward Gilman II (1555-abt.1613)
Robert Gilman (bef.1559-1631)

Gilman Research
Doc - Ames 1950
Doc - Gilman 2000

Miscellaneous
Unknown (Hawes) Gilman (-abt.1639)

1 False genealogies published
2 Apparent Internet Fallacies
3 Research Notes
4 Some G2G History
5 Sources

False genealogies published

Genealogies published in the 1800s mis-identified the children of Edward and Rose (Rysse) Gilman, thus confusing the ancestry of several early New England immigrants. These errant materials were broadly distributed so that mistakes are found in countless online family files.

The false genealogies and efforts to correct the record. An early false Gilman lineage was published in 1864 by Arthur Gilman, Genealogy of the Gilman Family in England and America ... (Albany, N.Y. : J. Munsell, 1864). 11-14; digital images, Hathi Trust. The same author published a similar title in 1869. See Arthur Gilman, The Gilman family, traced in the line of Hon. John Gilman ... (Albany, N.Y. : J. Munsell, 1869, rpt. 1989), 31-37; digital images Hathi Trust.

Albeit including valuable additions, another confused lineage was published in 1895 by Alexander Gilman, Searches into the History of the Gillman or Gilman Family … (London, E. Stock, 1895), 141 (Gilmans of Norfolk); digital images, Hathi Trust. For this confusion, see specifically p. 146 for the child list of Robert Gilman of Caston and Mary ____, including son, "Edward [Gilman], married ... Mary Clark."

Numerous skilled genealogists have worked in a more modern time to correct and update the earlier, confused work. For these materials, see

Walter Goodwin Davis, The ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 157; digital images, Hathi Trust.

Clarence Almon Torrey, "English Origin of Edward^1 Gilman" in The American Genealogist, 11 (1934):137-138, at 137; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.

Constance LeNeve Gilman Ames, The Story of the Gilmans and a Gilman Genealogy (Yakima, Washington: Shields Ranier Printing Co., 1950), 36; digital images, Hathi Trust, for sections credited to Clarence A. Torrey, "The Lincoln-Gilman Ancestry" and "Corrected Ancestry of Edward the Emigrant as stated by Mr. Clarence A. Torrey ..." NB: Ames did continue what Davis (1963) called "nonsense" and "fantastic theory" (myth) that "all Gilmans descend from a Welsh chieftain called Gilmin Troed Dhu or Cilmin of the Black Leg ...--nonsense which has been repeated from book to book."

Apparent Internet Fallacies

Various family genealogies followed the earlier erroneous claims, to which other speculation or "guesses" were added in an effort to extend or explain the problem genealogies. The files containing various falsehoods were broadly shared.

One Internet "myth" suggested two of Edward and Rose's sons, Edward and Robert, were one and the same. From one often cited source, a family file ("The Morris Clan"),^[1]

"According to Source 3 {S3b}, Edward was born Robert Edward GYLLMAN. He later dropped the Robert and changed the spelling of his surname. This would account for the confusion concerning this generation. This is also borne out by the fact that sources that do show Robert as a separate child, give him the same death date as Edward, (see source 5 {S5}), and that show that Robert's wife was also named Mary (see source 5 {S5}). See also S8, which attributes children of Edward to Robert. The one item that gives me pause is the christening date in Caston given as 10 July 1559 {S14}. Until I can verify the christening dates in Caston, I will consider Edward and Robert to be the same."

Another "myth" developed that the immigrant Edward had an ancestor, Edward Gilman, born Caston, Norfolk, England, about 1500. Of Edward (married Rose Rysse) in "The Morris Clan," "Source 6 says he was the son of Edward GILMAN [F60432] of Caston, Norfolk, England; but this is the only source I have seen so far that names a father for him." The reference, "Source 6" is an unsourced entry in yet another family file, "Holmes/Hobbies," reporting only that the Edward Gilman of Caston, born 1500, was the father of Edward born 1525.

See "Edward Gilman and Mary Hawes," The Morris Clan" (online family file); web content, WayBackMachine.

Research Notes

Some G2G History

Sources

↑ "Edward Gilman and Mary Hawes," The Morris Clan" (online family file); web content, WayBackMachine.