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Training Ship HMS Southampton (1820)

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HMS Southampton (1820) became a Royal Navy Industrial Training Ship. Other Royal Navy Industrial Training Ships were HMS Winchester (1822), renamed as Mount Edgcumbe, HMS Conway (1832), HMS Nile (1839).

For well over a hundred years all around the coast of Britain there were located a series of nautical training ships. Often surplus navy wooden walls, the ships provided a means of educating boys and young men, while preparing them for a lifetime at sea. The more famous of the schools included HMS Conway, initially on the Mersey, and then at Menai; the TS Mercury, at Hamble, Hampshire; the Mars on the Tay, at Dundee; the Vindicatrix at Sharpness Docks on the Gloucester & Sharpness Canal; the Worcester on the Thames and the Arethusa at Greenhithe. The Arethusa, converted from a sailing vessel, lasted until 1974 before she was purchased and sailed to America to be restored as a typical sailing vessel of the late nineteenth century.

HMS Southampton (1820) was the third ship of the Royal Navy to carry the name Southampton. She was a fourth rate, 52-gun ship, built at Deptford Dockyard, laid down in March 1817, launched on 7th Nov 1820 and completed on 11th May 1821.

HMS Southampton (near the top-left of the photograph) moored off Sammy's Point, Hull, in about 1900

The story of the ship in the period 1820 to 1860 is summarised in the Naval Database website [1].

In 1860 the Southampton went into Ordinary (Sheerness). From 1861 to 1867 she served as a Coastguard ship in Harwich.

She was established as a training ship in 1866. In 1867 she was transferred to Hull and on 18 Jun 1867 began service as Coastguard training ship. While at Hull she was moored off Sammy's Point[2], on the east bank at the confluence of the River Hull and the Humber.

On July 31st, 1868, the ship was officially certified as an Industrial School Ship, and was allowed to take boys committed by magistrates. The vessel could accommodate 240 boys aged from 11 to 15.

From 1879 to 1900 she was under the command of George Doherty Broad.

In 1911, HMS Southampton was under the command of Commander H. J. de W. Kitcat, RN[3].

She was sold on 26 Jun 1912 and broken up.

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Technical Data


Technical Data

Ship countryUnited Kingdom
Ship nameHMS Southampton
Ship builderDeptford Dockyard, Kent, England
Ship yard number
Ship laid downMarch 1817
Ship launched 7 November 1820
Ship acquired
Ship commissioned
Ship decommissioned26 June 1912
Ship in service
Ship out of service
Ship struck
Ship reinstated
Ship honours
Ship nickname
Ship fateBroken up after decommissioning in 1912
Ship status
Ship notes
Ship displacement1476 tons
Ship length
Ship beam
Ship height
Ship draught
Ship propulsion
Ship speed
Ship range
Ship endurance
Ship complement

Early Years

HMS Southampton (1820) was built at Deptford Dockyard, laid down in March 1817, launched on 7 November 1820 and completed on 11 May 1821.

The story of the ship in the period 1820 to 1860 is summarised in the Naval Database website[4].

In 1860 the Southampton went into Ordinary (Sheerness). From 1861 to 1867 she served as a Coastguard ship in Harwich.

Industrial School Ship at Hull

She then moved to Hull and, on 18 June 1867, began service as a training ship. While at Hull she was moored off Sammy's Point[5]. Sammy's Point is on the east bank of the River Hull at the confluence with the Humber.

The Southampton, moored on the River Humber at Hull, was established as a training ship in 1866. On July 31st, 1868, the ship was officially certified as an Industrial School Ship, allowing it to take boys committed by magistrates. The vessel could accommodate 240 boys aged from 11 to 15. By the end of 1909, the Southampton had trained 2,600 boys, 57 per cent of whom had gone into the Merchant Service, and 5 per cent to the Royal Navy.

In 1881, the England Census[6] records that George Doherty Broad was the Captain of the Training Ship HMS Southampton.

In 1911, the ship was under the control of Commander H. J. de W. Kitcat, RN[7]. The Secretary was Mr. F.C. Manley, solicitor, of 16, Bowl Alley Lane, Hull. The ship was closed on March 28th, 1912, and the boys transferred to the Training Ship Mount Edgcumbe[8], which was the renamed HMS Winchester, which was anchored in the River Tamar at Devonport.

Her time as a Training Ship in Hull is documented in M.Ed. dissertation, University of Hull, 1980, by I.D. Cowan[9].

Individuals present on HMS Southampton, England Census, 2nd April 1881

In 1881, the England Census[10] records that George Doherty Broad was the Captain of the Training Ship HMS Southampton. Other names given are those of his family members and staff members.


People at HMS Southampton, England Census, 2nd April 1881

NameMarAgeSexRelation/Occupation
1 George Doherty Broad M51MCaptain R N
2Julia BROAD M53F Captains Wife
3 Lilian BROAD U 18F Captains Daughter
4 Florence BROAD U 16F Captains Daughter
5 Harriett BATTEY U 23F Captains Servant
6 Samuel HOBBS M 45MChief Officer R N
7 Leonard COOPER M 32MSeaman Instructor
8 Alfred WILLEY M 42MR N Instructor
9 Arthur WADDINGTON U 20MR N Assistant Schoolmaster
10 Thomas ASHTON M 35MR N Shoemaker


Individuals present on HMS Southampton, England Census, 2nd April 1911

Individuals present on HMS Southampton at the time of the England Census on 2nd April 1911 are shown in the Census Return for HMS Southampton[11]. The first three names are the Kitcat family. The next seven are members of staff aboard the ship. The names of inmates are in the next table below.


People at HMS Southampton, 2nd April 1911 - Members of Staff

NameAge Occupation Birthplace
1Henry Jeffryes De Winton Kitcat 49 Captain Swallowfield, Berks
2 Sybil Mary Kitcat 46 Captain's wife Sherburn, Dorset
3 Cecil De Winton Kitcat 10 Captain's sonSouthsea, Hants
4 Carrie Jessop
5 Joseph Cooper 55 SeamanCroydon, Surrey
6 Eli Groves 47 SeamanGonville, Hants
7 George Bickley Cole 45 Seaman Paisley, Renfrew
8 Charles Wall 40 Seaman Cook Portsea, Hants
9 Robert Wilson 32 SchoolmasterMiddlesbrough, Yorks
10 Daniel Lorden 50 BandmasterLondon, Middx


People at HMS Southampton, 2nd April 1911 - Inmates

NameAge Birthplace
Ernest Priest 15 Hunslet, Yorks
Charles Henry Unwin 15 Sheffield
George Alfred Mason 15 Hull
Matthew Davies 15 Hull
George Kennedy 15 Oldham
Joseph Ogley 15 Sheffield
George Henry Barker 13 Leicesterl
William Conlon 15 Hull
Walter Story 15 Hull
Ernest Woodcock 15 Rotherham
Arthur Brown 15 Hull
John Thomas Fox 15 Grimsby
Robert Finch 14 Grimsby
Frederick Daley 14 Newcastle
Harry Carter Bradbury 13 Newcastle
Jesse Callis 15 Hull
Thomas Cloudsdale 15 Hull
Albert Richardson 15 Bradford
Benjamin Thomas Stead 14 York
Tom Smith 13 Oldham
William Ward 15 Londonderry
Emil Gerowski 15 Sunderland
Richard Platten 14 Hull
Clarence Boscowitch 14 Hull
Foster Davis 14 Goole
Aaron Brumby 14 Scarborough
Sadler Simpson 15 Rotherham
Robert William Mitchell 14
Harry Hackett 13
James Murphy 15
John Cleary Walsh 14
John Thomas Britt 14
Cecil Shaw 14
Arthur Robinson 13
John William McDonough 15
John Ayscough 15
James Ford 15
Alfred Henry Moye 15
George Smith 14
Alfred Hall 13
John Wilkinson 15
George Cole 15
Joseph Bocock 15
Charles William Brunyee 13
Albert Williamson 14
Albert Dresser 15
James Walsh 13
Harold Borrill 14
Joseph Raywell 13
Walter Harling 13
Edward Caine 15
John McCarthy 14
William Keech 14
William Timmins 14
Alfred Hartley Blackburn 14
Willie Taylor 12
George Booth 14
Bertie Freer 11
James McNamara 14
Charles Burgess 14
John Davies 14
Arthur Stead 15
Harold Kirby 15
Joseph Todd 14
Walter Ernest Staves 10
Joseph William Baxter 13
Arthur Fred Steele 12
Herbert Buckley 13
Samuel William Cubitt 13
David Brooks 14
John Henry Pickering 11
Samuel Collier 12
George Bowes 15
James McGowan 13
Thomas Flanagan 13
Frank Rangeley 13
Harry Peacock 13
Robert Emmett 15
Thomas McNamara 15
Wilfred France 13
George Drury 12
William Battista 13
George Foreman 11
Harold Wilcock 11
George Penketh 11
Frederick Thurston 13
Charles Constable 14
Alfred Boardman 13
Joseph Matthews 11
Thomas Wrigley 12
Joseph Atherton 12
Arthur Fletcher14
Charles Bavin13
William Sargent12

The record shows 81 more names. They may be transcribed at a later date.

Disposal

She was sold on 26 June 1912 and sent to Blyth to broken up by the Hughes Bolckow company. Two photographs of the Southampton in Blyth can be seen on this website: http://www.northeastmaritime.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=10764#p21102

Sammy's Point is now the site of The Deep (aquarium). The name Sammy's Point comes from the Martin Samuelson's Shipyard[12], which was once at the site.

References

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  1. Ref_1: http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/S/04316.html
  2. Ref_2: Sammy's Point
  3. Ref_3: Commander H. J. de W. Kitcat, RN
  4. Ref_4: Peter Higginbotham: Humber Industrial School Ship 'Southampton', Hull
  5. Ref_5: I. D. Cowan (1984) Certified Industrial Training Ships c. 1860‐1913, Journal of Educational Administration and History, 16:1, 1-9, DOI: 10.1080/0022062840160101, https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0022062840160101
  6. Ref_6: 1881 England Census, names transcribed and shown on http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/TSSouthampton/TSSouthampton1881.shtml website
  7. Ref_7: 1911 England Census,Class: RG14; Piece: 28686; Page: 1 Ancestry Record 2352 #29448328
  8. Ref_8: https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Martin_Samuelson

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