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The goal of this project is to sort out Harald the Black and his relatives as requested on G2G - Harald the Black and his relatives are a tangled mess
Members: Richard Devlin.
Here are some of the tasks that I think need to be done. I'll be working on them, and could use your help.
- Find sources for all profiles in question
- What profiles to disconnect
- What profiles to merge
- What profiles need to be created
- Maccus Haraldsson, son of Haraldr Sigtryggsson and brother of Guðrøðr Haraldsson. (Wikipedia:Maccus_mac_Arailt)
Profiles in question
Please add your research and sources
Guðrøðr Kvithand Haraldsson
Before untangling we had:
- Gudrød Kvithand Haraldsson (abt.1025-abt.1095)
- Relationships:
- Children: Out of scope of this project
- Spouses: Out of scope of this project
- Parents: Harald (Guðrøðarson) Gudrodsson (0980-abt.1040) and Consort Norway Ragnfredsdatter (abt.1000-)
- Biography: Yes, Swedish and English
- Sources: Limited secondary sources
- Relationships:
Other sites:
Wikipedia section on Familial origins his familial origins cites many academic articles in discussing his origins. Some sources name his father as Harald the Black, others name him as 'mac maic Arailt' implying his grandfather was Harold (not discussed there is whether both things could be true). Another Welsh pedigree records him as son of Harald the Black, who was son of "Ifor Gamle" (Ímar mac Arailt). However, all these sources are 13th-14th century manuscripts copying earlier material.
Young[1] postulates a completely different ancestry, as follows. After the death of Godred Haraldson in 989, the Sudreys came under the Earls of Orkney, but by some point in the 990s a son of Erik Bloodaxe ruled all or part of the Sudreys. According to the Heimskringla, Gudrod and Ragnfrid moved to the Orkneys after the battle of Lymford in 970. Ragnfrid returned to Norway in 971, fought two battles and "according to Gustav Heber relying on the authority of Bugge" sailed to Man and established a dynasty. However, 'Heber lists the names of all Erik Bloodaxe's sons except Godred and ti is felt that he and Bugge have confused Ragnfrid with Godred. This view is supported by Gaute Barfoth of Göteborg … in the New York Public Library … he found an authority which stated that Godred, son of Erik Bloodaxe, married the Heiress of Islay … and that their son was Harald the Black". He speculates that the Heiress of Islay may have been the daughter of Godred Haraldson. He argues that the names used in subsequent generation favour Gudrod over Ragnfrid as the relevant son of Erik Bloodaxe. Young's sources are not entirely clear. The index indicates that Bugge is E S Bugge, glossed as "Norwegian historian", as is Gustav Heber. No works by these men appear in the "highly selective" bibliography. Gaute Barfoth appears to be Sven Gaute Barfoth whose name appears here in conjunction with Young's.
Wikipedia:no:Gustav_Heber.
Wikipedia:no:Sophus_Bugge
MedLands distinguishes between Godred Crovan and GODFRID “Meranach” (-1095). King of Dublin, stating that "from a chronological point of view, it is possible that [they were] the same person". This is in contrast to the studies cited in Wikipedia which all consider them to be the same, but there is then no difficulty with the names son of Harald and son of son of Harald in the different chronicles.
- NEW research & bio notes entered for Gudrød Kvithand (Godred III) "King of Man and the Isles, Crovan , White Hands, Meranach" Haraldsson -- V.W.
Harald the Black
Before untangling we had:
- Harald (Guðrøðarson) Gudrodsson (0980-abt.1040)
- Relationships:
- Biography: No
- Sources: No
- Harald Gudrødsen (abt.1000-abt.1040)
- Relationships:
- Children: None
- Spouses: None
- Parents: Gudrød Eriksen II (abt.0930-abt.0999), Unknown Of Islay (0955-)
- Biography: Limited, mostly as originally imported
- Sources: No
- Relationships:
- Harald Godfreidsson (1000-1040) (Harald "The Black, Haraldi nigri de Ysland" Godfreidsson)
- Relationships:
- Children: None
- Spouses: Unknown Ragnfredsdatter (1000-1040), Unknown Ragnfredsdotter (1022-1040)
- Parents: Godred I (Haraldson) Haraldsson (-1040), no mother
- Biography: Yes, mostly quotes
- Sources: Limited secondary sources
- Relationships:
- Harald I den svarte Gudrödsson (0980-1040)
- Relationships:
- Children: None
- Spouses: Rangfredsdotter Unknown (0975-)
- Parents: None
- Biography: Yes
- Sources: ?
- Relationships:
All Merges completed:
- final profile - Harald "den svarte, King of Man"
- NEW research, bio tidy & up to date bio notes with original sources now entered for Harald "den svarte, King of Man" Gudrödsson -- V.W.
- NOTE: the same spouse Ragnfredsdotter now has 4 profiles attached here
- 14 April 2023: Gudrödsson-72 Harald I den svarte Gudrödsson (0980-1040) into Gudrødsen-5 Harald Gudrødsen (abt.1000-abt.1040)
- 15 April 2023: Guðrøðarson-2 Harald (Guðrøðarson) Gudrodsson (0980-abt.1040) into Gudrødsen-5 Harald Gudrødsen (abt.1000-abt.1040)
- 19 April 2023: Godfreidsson-1 Harald "The Black, Haraldi nigri de Ysland" Godfreidsson into Harald "den svarte, King of Man" Gudrödsson formerly Gudrødsen
Other sites:
- No English Wikipedia entry.
- MedLands: HARALD “the Black”
- Medlands: No children for Guðrøðr Eiriksson
Ragnfreðsdóttir
Before untangling we had:
- Consort Norway Ragnfredsdatter (abt.1000-)
- Relationships:
- Children: Gudrød Kvithand Haraldsson (abt.1025-abt.1095)
- Spouses: Harald (Guðrøðarson) Gudrodsson (0980-abt.1040)
- Parents: Rangfred (Eiriksson) Eriksson (0930-0970), no mother
- Biography: No
- Sources: No
- Relationships:
- Rangfredsdotter Unknown (0975-)
- Relationships:
- Children: None
- Spouses: Harald (Guðrøðarson) Gudrodsson (0980-abt.1040)
- Parents: no father, Ragnfred av Norge (0923-)
- Biography: Yes, duplicated English and Swedish, looks like copy-and-paste from another site
- Sources: Nothing explicit but some cryptic mentions in biography of Alexander Bugge cited by G.V.C Young, 1986
- Relationships:
- Unknown Ragnfredsdatter (1000-1040)
- Relationships:
- Children: None
- Spouses: Harald Godfreidsson (1000-1040)
- Parents: None
- Biography: No
- Sources: No
- Relationships:
- Unknown Ragnfredsdotter (1022-1040)
- Relationships:
- Children: None
- Spouses: Harald Godfreidsson (1000-1040)
- Parents: Rangfred (Eiriksson) Eriksson (0930-0970), no mother
- Biography: No
- Sources: No
- Relationships:
Other sites:
- No English Wikipedia entry.
- Medlands: No children shown for Ragnfreðr Eiriksson
Young has numerous works but none relevant in 1986 that I can see. Alexander Bugge was a Norwegian historian, son of E S Bugge.
- 19th April 2023 - all four profiles ready to be merged - all placed with same father; no mother involved - 3 profiles completely cleaned - new sourced bio will be entered on Rangfredsdotter family name unknown - V.W.
- proposed merges -
B Consort Norway Ragnfredsdatter (Ragnfredsdatter-1) and D Rangfredsdotter Unknown (Unknown-272543) were already connected in a proposed merge.
D Unknown Ragnfredsdotter (Ragnfredsdotter-1) and C Unknown Ragnfredsdatter (Ragnfredsdatter-4) were already connected in a proposed merge.
B Consort Norway Ragnfredsdatter (Ragnfredsdatter-1) and A Rangfredsdotter Unknown (Unknown-272543) were already connected in a proposed merge.
D Rangfredsdotter Unknown (Unknown-272543) and B Consort Norway Ragnfredsdatter (Ragnfredsdatter-1) were already connected in a proposed merge.
- Merges completed 21st April - V.W.
Guðrøðr Haraldsson
Before untangling we had:
- Godfred Haraldsson (abt.0935-0989)
- Relationships:
- Biography: Yes, but confuses him with Guðrøðr Kvithand Haraldsson
- Sources: Secondary: Ancient Wales Studies, Qualtrough, Viking Pirates and Christian Princes
- Godred I (Haraldson) Haraldsson (-1040)
- Relationships:
- Children: Harald Godfreidsson (1000-1040)
- Spouses: None
- Parents: Harald Sigtryggrsson (-0940), no mother
- Biography: Commentary on confusion
- Sources: MedLands
- Relationships:
- NEW researched biography entered for Gudrød Kvithand (Godred III) "King of Man and the Isles, Crovan , White Hands, Meranach" Haraldsson died 989 V.W.
Other sites:
Guðrøðr Eiriksson
Before untangling we had:
- Gudrød Eriksen II (abt.0930-abt.0999)
- Relationships:
- Biography: Data import
- Sources: None
- Gudrød (Eriksson) Eiriksson (abt.0930-abt.0999)
- Relationships:
- Children: None
- Spouses: Heiress of Islay (0930-1020)
- Parents: Eirik Blodøks Haraldsson (0895-0954), no mother
- Biography: No
- Sources: No
- Relationships:
Other sites:
- No English Wikipedia entry.
- Medlands: GUDRÖD Eriksson (-murdered [Alrekstad] 999)
Heiress of Islay
- Unknown Of Islay (0955-)
- Relationships:
- Biography: Data import
- Sources: No
- Heiress of Islay (0930-1020)
- Relationships:
- Children: None
- Spouses: Gudrød (Eriksson) Eiriksson (abt.0930-abt.0999)
- Parents: None
- Biography: Gedcom junk
- Sources: No
- Relationships:
Other sites:
- No English Wikipedia entry.
- Medlands: No wife for Guðrøðr Eiriksson or Guðrøðr Haraldsson
No sources on these profiles. Her existence so far only attested in Young[2] - see discussion under Guðrøðr Kvithand Haraldsson.
Ragnfreðr Eiriksson
Before untangling we had:
- Rangfred (Eiriksson) Eriksson (0930-0970)
- Relationships:
- Biography: Comment and gedcom junk
- Sources: Hull Royalty site (dead link)
- Ragnfred av Norge (0923-) (female but described as male in bio)
- Relationships:
- Children: Rangfredsdotter Unknown (0975-)
- Spouses: None
- Parents: Eirik Blodøks Haraldsson (0895-0954), Gunhild Kongemor Gormsdatter (abt.0910-abt.0980)
- Biography: Swedish, clearly copy and paste from another site
- Sources: In bio: A Nordic Chronology page 64-65, Alf Henriksson; G.V.C. Young, Isle of Man; All the way from Vendelkråka, Alf Henriksson
- Relationships:
Other sites:
- No English Wikipedia entry.
- MedLands: RAGNFRED Eriksson (-after 970)
Haraldr Sigtryggsson
Before untangling we had:
- Harald Sitricsson (0925-0940)
- Relationships:
- Children: Godfred Haraldsson (abt.0935-0989)
- Spouses: Edgyth (UNKNOWN) Unknown
- Parents: Sigtryggr Blinde Ivarsson (abt.0880-0927), no mother
- Biography: One line
- Sources: Wikipedia:Harald_Sigtryggsson
- Relationships:
- Harald Sigtryggrsson (-0940)
- Relationships:
- Children: Godred I (Haraldson) Haraldsson (-1040)
- Spouses: None
- Parents: Sigtryggr Blinde Ivarsson (abt.0880-0927), no mother
- Biography: No
- Sources: MedLands
- Relationships:
Merges:
- Proposed 13 Apr 2023 Sitricsson-1 and Sigtryggrsson-1
- NEW researched profile entered on Sigtryggrsson-1 V.W.
Other sites:
Fionnghuala Maclochlan
Before untangling we had:
- Phingola Fionghuala Maclochlan (abt.0950-)
- Relationships:
- Children: Ranald (Man) and The Isles (0980-1005)
- Spouses: Godfred Haraldsson (abt.0935-0989)
- Parents: None
- Biography: None
- Sources: Online genealogies
- Relationships:
Other sites:
- No English Wikipedia entry.
- MedLands: not found.
Røgnvaldr Guðrøðsson
Before untangling we had:
- Ranald (Man) and The Isles (0980-1005)
- Relationships:
- Children: Olaf of Man (Ranaldsson) Rögnvaldsson (abt.1005-)
- Spouses: None
- Parents: Godfred Haraldsson (abt.0935-0989), Phingola Fionghuala Maclochlan (abt.0950-)
- Biography: None
- Sources: Qualtrough
- Relationships:
Name variations: Ranald, Røgnvaldr Guðrøðsson (Downham), Ragnall son of Gofraid (Woolf), Reginald (Young)
Other sites:
- Wikipedia:Ragnall_mac_Gofraid is very long considering how few references there are to him.
- MedLands[3] has a very brief entry noting his death recorded in the Annals of Ulster.
Downham [4] states that he was the next reported King of the Isles after his father Guðrøðr Haraldsson (d. 989). He died in Munster in 1005. She cites Annals of Innisfallen s.a. [1004], Annals of Ulster s.a. 1004 [=1005], Chronicum Scotorum s.a. 1003 [=1005]. He may have been succeeded by Lagmann, described as king of Suauorum by William of Jumièges, but as no King of Sweden with this name is recorded, emending to Sudrorom (Sudreys) has been suggested by several scholars.[5] Her genealogical chart places Lögmaðr (Lagmann, fl.1012) as brother of Røgnvaldr and father of Óláfr (d.1014) and Røgnvaldr as the possible father of Echmarcach King of Dublin (d.1064).[6]
Woolf[7] mentions him as Ragnall, King of Innse Gall, son and apparent successor of Gofraid, died 1005, and presents argument with citations to others who have argued the same, that his Ragnall was the father of Echmarcach son of Ragnall, King of Dublin (by 1035).
Eirik Blodøks Haraldsson
Doesn't need untangling, but bio could do with editing into a coherent whole.
- NEW researched profile entered in bio for Eirik Blodøks Haraldsson V.W.
Other sites:
- Wikipedia:Eric_Bloodaxe
- MedLands: ERIK ([895-murdered Stainmore Westmoreland 954)
Gunhild Kongemor Gormsdatter
Doesn't need untangling, but needs sources.
Other sites:
- Wikipedia:Gunnhild,_Mother_of_Kings
- MedLands: GUNHILD ([910/20]-after 970)
Harald II (Eriksson) Greycloak
G2G comment: Part of the problem is that someone has confused Harald the Black with Harald Grafeldar ("Greycloak"), King of Norway, who was the son of Eirik Bloodyaxe, King of Norway. These are clearly two different Haralds.
Other sites:
- Wikipedia:Harald_Greycloak
- MedLands: HARALD Eriksson (-killed in battle Limfiord near Hals, Jylland [965)]
Sigtryggr Blinde Ivarsson
Doesn't need untangling, but needs sources.
Other sites:
- Wikipedia:Sitric_Cáech
- Medlands: SIHTRIC "Caoch", grandson of IMAR, son of --- (-[926/27)] and SIHTRIC "Caoch" (-[926/27)] (these are slightly different)
Eadgyth of Polesworth
Before untangling we had:
- Edgyth (UNKNOWN) Unknown
- Relationships:
- Children: Godfred Haraldsson (abt.0935-0989)
- Spouses: Harald Sitricsson (0925-0940)
- Parents: None
- Biography: Brief
- Sources: Wikipedia:Harald_Sigtryggsson, Wikipedia:Edith_of_Polesworth
- Relationships:
Other sites:
- Wikipedia:Edith_of_Polesworth
- MedLands: EADGYTH ([895/902-, bur Tamworth)]
MedLands under SIHTRIC "Caoch", grandson of IMAR, son of --- (-[926/27)] and SIHTRIC "Caoch" (-[926/27)]:"The Book of Hyde names "Athelstanum…et Elfredum et Edgytham" as the children of King Eadweard "ex concubina Egwynna", specifying that Eadgyth married "Sirichio regi Northanhymbrorum" and was buried at Tamworth"
Request merges
- Godfred Haraldsson-213 and Godred Haraldson-2. sons of the following Haralds.
- Harald Sitricsson-1 and Harald Sigtryggrsson-1, who are both shown as sons of Sigtryggr Ivarsson-24.
Sources
- ↑ Young, Through a Glass Darkly, pages 39-40.
- ↑ Young, Through a GLass Darkly, page 40.
- ↑ RÆGNALD (-1005). King of Hebrides https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_ftnref1218
- ↑ Downham, Viking Kings, page 197.
- ↑ Downham, Viking Kings, page 133.
- ↑ Downham, Viking Kings, page 193.
- ↑ Woolf, Pictland to Alba, page 246
- Downham, Clare. Viking Kings of Britain and Ireland. (Edinburgh: Dunedin Academic Press ,2007)
- Duffy, Sean. "Ireland and the Irish Sea region, 1014-1318". PhD thesis, 1993, Trinity College Dublin. http://www.tara.tcd.ie/handle/2262/77137
- Qualtrough, John K. Kings of Man. http://www.qualtrough.org/history/Kings-of-Man.pdf (Accessed 15 April 2023.)
- Woolf, Alex. From Pictland to Alba 789-1070. (Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press, 2007.)
- Young, G. V. C. The History of the Isle of Man under the Norse, or Now Through a Glass Darkly. (Peel: Mansk-Svenska Publishing, 1981.)
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