a 2023 new years resolution was to get on facebook and link up with those doing howard family research and other stuff in facebook groups. well, i'm on facebook, now. if you want to find me, i live in Wheeling WV, and am a software engineer.

i am trying to find which facebook groups to join. looks like most are private and/or center around a specific person i don't know. any ideas or suggestions?

I wish this name study wasn't shutdown. Even untangling a few of the Howard lines are useful in my opinion. According to FTDNA name study (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/howarddnaproject?iframe=ycolorized) there are 30 lineages which seems about average and not impractical.

Gordon w. Howard

Last for sure known relatives are jesse and martha Howard of Alabama, james marion Howard east texas.

in Familysearch i find 2 sets of parents for Reason ((Roper)) Howard (b. 1731). his URL there is https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LKHK-M5B they have his year of death as 1782 (age about 50) in Hampshire, West Virginia, United States. records in Hampshire county may confirm or deny the time of his death. the parents found are:

parents #1: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L8SQ-9YY Gideon Howard-747 (1693-1752) https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/9CWR-K9S Hannah Greneffe-4 (1687-1727)

parents #2: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LYRW-7M7 Benjamin Howard (1716-1767) https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LZNS-NYY Eleanor MacCubbin (1716-1767) parents #2 are marked as preferred.

Reason was born (1731) about 4 years AFTER Hannah died (1727). so, parents #2 seems the most plausible, right now.

the paternal lineage of #1 is: Gideon Howard-747 Captain John Howard-748 Matthew Howard-235 Jr Matthew Howard-8458 Sr

the paternal lineage of #2 is: Benjamin Howard-????? Charles Howard-1046 Cornelius Howard-202 Jr. (2nd wife Mary (Roper) Howard) Captain Cornelius Howard-171 Sr. Matthew Howard-8458 Sr

lineage #2 is one generation longer. Reason Howard-1572 was born when Benjamin was only 14 and Eleanor was 15. this is plausible in those years. i will be changing my Ancestry tree. i need to get some real souces on Benjamin and get the Pre-1700 Self-Cerrtification so i change this.

edit: ID of Gideon Howard is corrected.

Can anyone help with info on a Frank W Howard married to Tomasa Leon around 1893 Pima Arizona. This is the only event we have of him

i have found a lot of unverified info at the URL below which is titled "Descendants of Matthew Howard". there are a total of 33 pages of this article. it covers 9 generations, enough to reach living people, although it doesn't follow every line down. follow the link "Next Page" on the text navigation bar just above the title.

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/o/w/Kenneth-H-Howard-III/GENE2-0001.html

Matthew Howard-8458 Sr is a (not the only one) a focus of my research. i want to find all of the many stories of his ancestry. given that this has been published and disputed by a number of genealogists since 1939, i doubt my meager research can solve it. but i hope to have enough to start to establish some statistical probabilities. one thing i will need to do is keep multiple separate trees, one for each possibility, where people can look to see what i have, so they can comment about it. i do have an Ancestry account where i could do this but i don't want to force people to pay money just to see what i'm doing.

what suggestions might others have?

i am looking at running the Gramps program on my (Linux, not Windows) laptop, which i know can produce fan charts i could put online. it may have other neat stuff.

i wonder how many others are regularly checking here.

i see that Reason Howard-1572 has 2 branches to Matthew Howard-8458 Sr. these branches are different length. his great grandfathers include both Matthew Howard-235 Jr and Matthew Howard-8458 Sr. so does that make Matthew Howard-8458 Sr my 9ggf (all male line) or 8ggf?

Matthew Arundel Howard appears to be my 9great grandfather. i would have 1024 of them in all my branches that far back. that could take a while to research. that could also be a lot of cousins from just him.

i am curious if the Reason Biggins Howard mention by Bob Chancy-45 in #10 is the father or son of Samuel B Howard-9025. there has been some name changes but i don't recall when that happened.

i would like to see statistics on popularity of given names based surname and/or range of years and/location.

i am trying to figure out a way to add a link to the Howard Name Study on either my profile (at least my view of it) or my G2G profile. anyone know how?

i added another generation to my line with Reason Biggins Howard-23423 (my 3ggf) and adopted Samuel B Howard-9025 (my 4ggf) to make me now connected all the way to Mathew Howard-8458 Sr (my 9ggf).

i was reading a list of compiled marriages of Maryland. i extracted and converted to text (from JPEG images) those lines with "Howard" and put them online. you can read the list at http://ipal.net/wt/20200902/md-marriages-howard.txt

this list is just a fast little index tool. it is not a valid source.

the source origin is at Ancestry just run a search there for the name of interest with "Maryland" in the location to access the source.

i will go ahead and finish research of Howards i have as descendants of Matthew Arundell Howard 1609-1659 and create profiles connected to what i have created up to now. if it is decided that my profiles are wrong we can just delete them. or we can delete the other. or we can merge them.

i have personally memorized the line of my tree up to MAH. when i see "Reason Biggins Howard" i think of the one who is my 3ggf (1820-1892) instead of my 5ggf Reason Howard (1731-?). there appear to be at least 2 other (4 total) Howards named Reason that are descendants of MAH based on quick scans of Ancestry and Familysearch.

then we need to decide who MAH's parents are (probably stayed in England). i have read about 3 possibilities.

i have taken the Ancestry DNA test and put the codes in on my own profile, here. is there anything else i need to do to let others use it? do i need to extend the profile connections that go back to me, outward to connect to other Howards?

my tree on Ancestry goes way past Matthew Howard 1609-1659. but i don't know how accurate any of that old stuff is. i have found theories and disputes about his parentage so that is something i need to eventually research more. i doubt i can discover more than experienced professional genealogists.

here is a view of my pedigree tree at Ancestry showing part of my Howard lineage i am currently working on to put in wikitree. this view is HD size (1920x1080), so, you may need to pan and/or scroll to see it all.

http://ipal.net/wt/20200829/samuel-b-howard.png

what i will be running into is that the elder Reason Howard you see in my tree seems to already be in wikitree at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Howard-1572 but is apparently incomplete and different than what i have. so i am looking for solid sources to support one or the other. i also have a 3rd Reason Howard that is a grandson of the younger on (Reason Biggins Howard) my tree. i suspect the same named people are causing names to be mixed up. that's partly why i am working on building out as many branches that i have time for. in this case, the only reason i see for the name Biggins to enter the family is that Samuel B Howard married Mary Polly Bigggins. thus, i see it as unlikely that the B in Samuel B Howard is short for Biggins. so i will also be looking for his middle name and that his father (who stayed behind in Hampshire county).

I am looking to see if any one knows anything about an adoption of Gerald M Howard. He was adopted by Samuel N and Mary E (West)Howard from Ottumwa,Iowa. He was born on May 1914. Samuel first marriage was to Barbara Gee/they had to two children Orville and Delta. They divorced . Sam and Mary lived in Ottumwa,Iowa. Thanks for any info.

i now have a new little goal.

i have discovered that my gggf Brice Howard-22149 [1820–1892] (f: Reason Biggins Howard [1794–1882], gf: Samuel B. Howard [1770–1862]) and his 6 year younger 1st cousin Wilson Biggin Howard [f: 1826–1902] (Samuel Martin Howard [1797–1862], gf: Samuel B. Howard [1770–1862]) married sisters Barbara Ann Stricklin and Sarah Ann Stricklin both born in 1828.

is that Wilson Biggin Howard or Wilson Biggins Howard? it could be either given how people have mangled names.

the new little goal is to determine the birth date for Barbara Ann Stricklin (Sarah Ann Stricklin is 8 Dec 1828) to know if these sisters are twins. having the same middle name gives me a feeling they could be. but Sarah is plenty late enough in that year for Barbara to be a few months older in the same year. two friends of mine in high school were like that (brothers about 10-12 months apart in age but in the same school year).

i now have spouse for Brice Howard-22149 (Barbara Ann Stricklin).

next i am trying to pin down the birthdate of Parten Howard, son of Edward Ellsworth Howard-22090 and Lilly May Stout-5885. it is circa 1909 and there is a sibling (Challen Ambrose Howard) born 21 Jun 1908. Parten appeared in 1910 census and did not appear in 1920 census. either he died young or 1910 had him in error. i have seen many census errors.

one of many brick walls i am bouncing around is finding a spouse for Brice Howard [ https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Howard-22149].

how do we formally join here or is just being active and communication good enough? i don't know all the ways to do everything here, yet, such as sending a private message. if a private message goes to my login email, i won't see it unless i know to look for it. you can email me directly at gmail.com by using my user name there which is phil.d.howard

i am also new here on Wikitree. i came here because i like big single tree collaboration and this one looked to be more serious to me. i started out on Ancestry encouraged by a 1st cousin from my mother's family while at my sister-in-law's funeral riding to the burial. at first i was not even knowing what i was doing on Ancestry but learning along the way. eventually i went to various outside sources (historical) to follow my male Howard lineage to 36 generations, 22 past King Henry VIII. i am very interested in this research. i'm still learning many things here on Wikitree. i am working on better sourcing and record keeping to re-build that lineage to be sure i have it correct. you can see what i have now from my profile (1955-, Howard-21542) and my father's profile (1929-2016, Howard-21571). i am working on the next profile to add in that line (Reason Biggins Howard, b. 16 November 1794 • Cameron, Ohio, Virginia, d. 7 April 1882 • Cameron, Marshall, West Virginia. you can email me at phil.d.howard on the left side of the at sign and gmail.com on the right side. i am not on FB.

I'd love to join and add my Howard Ancestors

I am new to Wikitree & interested in this project. Earliest ancestor in my tree is Matthew Howard, bn 1609, m. Ann (Unknown).

I have been tested for Y-DNA, (B385819) and placed in lineage 14 of Howard Project at FTDNA (formerly, the Matthew line). Have autosomal testing at Ancestry-dotcom. My Genisis.gedmath kit is A720036.

Interested in adding my ancestor, John Beale Howard Jr (1777- 1859) and his father, John Sr, to his parents profile (Henry Howard/Sarah Dorsey), already listed. Not sure how that works.

Also, interest in another Howard line: Samuel Howard (1725-1840, m. Frances Dryden). I have a FB group with people from both Samuel and Matthew lines; and getting legit matches with both lines. Possibly from marriages of Osbornes to both lines. Interested in that, also. Thanks

I have proven information on Elihue Howard of Pendleton South Carolina that needs to be added. S was born in 1797. One of his sons was Benjamin Harrison Howard

The Howard through South Carolina into north Georgia is a difficult trail to follow.