Information about Louis (Eustache) Adithomoga) Denys De Laronde

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Information from prior genealogists

Louis I (Eustache) (Adithomoga) Denys de LaRonde (Manager's note, information provided by Noreen Kruzich: The only primary document where Adithomoga is written is the petition of Alex Laronde. This is refuted by Indian Affairs Walton, who has done an inquiry into the family which included interviews. The name Adithomoga was not found to be true. This man was not indigneous, his partner Marie Magdeleine was.) (b. 7 June 1750, d. Bet. 1808 - 1824), (son of Pierre Francoise Paul (Gitchi) Denys de LaRonde and Marguerite Suzanne Celle (Selle) Duclos), was born 7 June 1750 in St-Nom-de-Marie, Montréal, Canada, Nouvelle-France and died Bet. 1808 - 1824. He married (1) Marie Angelique Catherine Godfroy de Linctot in 1776 in Montréal. He married (2) Marie Anne Louise King on 5 July 1800 in St-Nom-de-Marie, Montréal, - info by Andre Denys de LaRonde. He married (3) Marie Madeleine(Na8tjikijkikwe) Wosneswesquigigo on 28 August 1838 in a Religious ceremony in Diocese of Pembroke, Upper Canada. (Manager's note: This marriage has been identified and is NOT for Louis Denys de La Ronde. See the Vital Records section below.)

Louis the elder was mentioned in an inventory of his parents communal possessions (made after the death of his mother - his father was still alive) in 24 August 1773; as being the guardian of his minor brothers and sisters and to whom his parents owed 70 pounds. He apparently married 3 times; 1st to Marie Angelique Catherine Godfroy of whom no known issue; 2nd Marie Wosneswesguigigo and had issue of 9 children and 3rd in 5 July 1800 to Marie Louise King and had issue of a further 3 children. He was still living in 1806: His grandson, Alexander, (son of Louis` 2nd son Eustache) stated on 30 May 1869 in a letter to the Indian Agent that he was called Gitchi Anishanabe Laronde and that he was married to Adyethomoga (is this the same person as Marie Wosneswesquigigo) and he was still living in 1806.

In an article relating to the papers of Ida Schneider it states that Louis Denis married in 1800 to Louise King was a clerk and trader for the North West Company (1818-1821) and the Hudsons Bay Company (1821-1868) in the Lake Nipigon area (if this is the case then he lived 118 years, which is obviously incorrect. I suspect we have a 2nd Louis Denis de LaRonde son of this Louis Denys de LaRonde being an intermediate generation and father of of the following.......A Louis Denis de LaRonde also made a will in 1860 - someone will have to carefully study the documents lodged at Thunder Bay Historical Museum Society, perhaps this will clear it up.

John Riviere confirms that a Louis Denys de LaRonde left a will dated 1797 which confirms the names of his wife and children, many of whom have their baptisms recorded at Oka. He ran independent trading post called Laronde on the Lavase river near North Bay, near Lake Nipissing and married Marie Wonsneswesquigigo having had no issue by his former wife, he had the following 10 children as set out by various correspondents. John also advises that he left his Indian wife for reasons unknown and is the same Louis who married Marie Louis King from whom we are informed he had issue of a further 5 children. John advises that Louis served in the American revolution with his father, during which episode he was take prisoner at Fort St. Jean (this is supported by the petition in the National Archives from Louise King which mentions him having fought at St. Jean, and it was following that event that he settled near Lake Nipissing.)

According to Elizabeth Arthur`s book "The de Larondes of Lake Nipigon" two young men each called Louis entered the service of Hudsons Bay Company in 1815 and 1818. This I believe is the Louis` who entered in 1815.

COPY OF INVENTORY OF LOUIS DENIS, SR DE LA LARONDE Louis was mentioned in the inventory of his parents communal possessions (made after the death of his mother - his father still alive) dated 24 August 1773 as being the guardian of his minor brothers and sisters, and to whom his parents owed 70 pounds. Born 1750 still living in 1806.

"NIPISSING FROM BRULE TO BOOTH" BY MURRAY LEATHERDALE page 142 - 151 **could this Eustache and Toussaint be the same people mentioned above by Elizabeth Arthur`s book**

The first record of Fort Laronde is found in a North West Co. account book dated June 1, 1814 and listing Sundries remaining on Lake Nipisingue with Eustache de La Ronde. As La Ronde`s name is not found in the North West Company`s ledger for 1811-1821, he may have been more of an agent for the company than an employee. Ross Cox recorded that he had passed a free trader named La Ronde, on his way to Montreal in a canoe with fourteen packs of beaver and nearly as many children. and on the next day, after making the grand traverse, cox recorded that he arrived at a snug house belonging to Mr. La Ronde`s son at which he breakfasted. I found many brothers and sisters active in the fur trade on Nipissing before and after the absorption of the North West Co. by the Hudsons Bay Co. Later in the 19th century they operated out of Penetang and Georgian Bay and into Lake Nipissing as free traders. Hence, another Fort Laronde appears in the picture located on the Georgian Bay near Parry Sound. It should not be confused with the other Fort Laronde mentioned.

The voyageurs from Montreal visit Fort Laronde sometimes between 1805 and 1820. They will receive a boisterous welcome from Eustache Laronde and his congenial wife, a Nipissing Indian, not to mention the freedom from the ever persistent black fly and mosquito which are blown away. Eustache and the children are waiting on the wharf with hands outstrectched to greet the first canoe. Eustache`s wife is busy shooeing deer from their small potato patch. Smoke is curling from the lofty stone fireplace. The first odour of beans and venison can be detected from the open door of the post; these have been simmering all day in a large iron pot over the open fireplace, in preparation for the expected bourgeois that would be travelling with this brigade. Eustache instructs the voyageurs to take the personal packs of the bourgeois to the loft quarters where bunks have been prepared for their comfort by Mrs. Laronde. Eustache and his family have set up temporary sleeping quarters for themselves in the fur storage room, back of the trading counter.

The children have distributed soap that Mrs. Laronde has made during the past winter from a mixture of beaver fat and wood ash. Mr. Laronde serves dinner to the bourgeois, set on a huge pine table set up in the common room of the post for such occasions. Before breakfast is partaken of, many of the voyageurs have joined Eustache and his wife at the poplar pole altar to attend mass and receive Communion. Eustache`s old grey lead dog, Babishe, cocks his head. Eustache steps away from the primitive altar, walks over to the post and picks a long rawhide whip off a peg on the rear wall. With an easy flick of his wrist, Eustache snaps the long strands of rawhide. The huskies dash to the end of their tether seeking shelter. Eustache has taken advantage of this visit to seek the assistance of a few brawny arms to help him replace some of the sill logs that have begun to rot in the post.

The next morning, Eustache and his family are standing on the wharf shaking hands, bidding farewell, and promising these voyageurs to have more fresh fish on their return to Montreal in the fall.

The Hudsons Bay Company took over Fort Laronde had been moved to the north shore of Lake Nipissing. The name Fort Laronde fell into disuse and the fort was referred to simply as Nipissing Lake Post. In 1848 mention is made that the fort was moved to a new site, which I assume was on the right bank of the Sturgeon River near its mouth. It was on this site that a replica of the post was built in 1967 as a centennial project of Springer Township, Cache Bay and Sturgeon Falls Secondary School. Thomas Cowburn and Toussaint de la Ronde were employed at Lake Nipissing by the United Hudsons Bay and North West Company during the winter of 1821-22. During the winter of 1823-24 Toussaint La Ronde had charge of the Lake Nipissing post for the Hudsons Bay Co.

More About Louis I (Eustache) (Adithomoga) Denys de LaRonde: Baptism: 7 June 1750, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Occupation: Half breed Hunter. Property: Received military land grant near St. Andrews, Quebec from North Bay Library. More About Louis I (Eustache) (Adithomoga) Denys de LaRonde and Marie Angelique Catherine Godfroy de Linctot: Single: 1776, Montreal, Quebec, Canada.120 More About Louis I (Eustache) (Adithomoga) Denys de LaRonde and Marie Anne Louise King: Marriage contract: Notaire Chaboillez. Other-Begin: 5 July 1800, St. Nom de Marie, Montreal, Quebec - info by Andre Denys de LaRonde.

COPY OF LETTER TO IDA SCHNEIDER FROM ED & MARG RE;EXTRACT Extract - according to an act of Tutorship or Guardianship, issued in Montreal on August 13, 1808 there were five sons born to the said Louis de la Ronde and Louise King, between 1801 and 1808 being: Louis, born 1801 Charles Francois, born 1803 Michel Gaspard, born 1804 Pierre Alexandre, born 1806 Joseph Adolphe, born 1808, apparently in March, being declared five months in August The said Louise King, widow, was appointed tutor and Charles Francois (1763-1840), the uncle, was present to the deed. More About Louis I (Eustache) (Adithomoga) Denys de LaRonde and Marie Madeleine(Na8tjikijkikwe) Wosneswesquigigo: Marriage on 28 August 1838, Religious ceremony in Diocese of Pembroke, Ontario, Canada.

Children of Louis I (Eustache) (Adithomoga) Denys de LaRonde and Marie Anne Louise King are:

1. Louis V Denis de LaRonde, b. 22 July 1801, Ste Anne de Bellevue, Quebec, Canada, d. 22 August 1868, Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada.
2. Jean (John) T. de LaRonde, b. 25 February 1802, Bordeaux, France, d. 2 March 1879, Caledonia.
3. Charles Francois de LaRonde, b. Bet. 13 November 1802 - 1803, Ste. Anne, Bellevue, Quebec, Canada - info from Andre Denys de LaRonde.
4. Michel Gaspard de LaRonde, b. 16 October 1804, Ste. Anne, Bellevue, Quebec, Canada.
5. Pierre Alexandre Gaspard Denys de LaRonde, b. 6 June 1806, Ste Genevieve, Vaudreuil, Quebec.
6. Joseph Adolphe de LaRonde, b. 13 March 1808, St Michel, Vaudreuil, Quebec, Canada - info from Andre Denys de LaRonde.
7. Eustache Kwaie Kosh LaRonde, b. 1811, Lake Nipissing, d. 1864. (This may have been the son of Charles-François de la Ronde rather than a namesake of the Eustache de la Ronde born to Louis I (Eustache) (Adithomoga) Denys de LaRonde and Marie Madeleine(Na8tjikijkikwe) Wosneswesquigigo in 1785 who was godfather to his sister Madeleine, born 1801)

Children of Louis I (Eustache) (Adithomoga) Denys de LaRonde and Marie Madeleine(Na8tjikijkikwe) Wosneswesquigigo are:

1. Isabel Denis de LaRonde.
2. Angelique Denis de LaRonde.
3. Adelaide Denis de LaRonde.
4. Cecile Denis de LaRonde.
5. Toussaint Denis de LaRonde, b. 1783.
6. Madeleine Marguerite Marie(Nokotose) de LaRonde, b. 1784.
7. Louis IV Denys de LaRonde, b. 1788, Allumette Island, Pontiac County, Quebec, Canada.
8. Charles François (Celeron) Denis de LaRonde, b. 1793, Vaudreuil, d. 1882.
9. Dorothee Denis de LaRonde, b. 1796.
10. Andre (Leandre) de LaRonde, b. March 1800.

Vital records

On 13 Aug 1776, in Notre-Dame-de-Montréal, Louis Thibaudier Laronde 26 year old son of Ecuyer Sieur Denis Thibaudiere, "officier des troupes de la marine", and the late Suzanne Decelle married Angelique Godefroy Delinctot, 35 year old widow of Jean Batiste Chavaudreuil, daughter of Sieur David Godefroi Delinctot, "capitaine des troupes de la marine" and Apolline Blondeau. Several signatures including the bride and groom. ^[1]

• A child was "legitimized" at this wedding. The child is named Hyacinthe and was baptized under mother and father unknown on 31 Aug 1733 in the same parish. ^[2]

On 5 Jul 1800, in Notre-Dame-de-Montréal, bourgeois Louis Denis Laronde dit Thibaudiere adult son of Denis Thibaudiere Laronde and the late Susanne De Selles married Marie-Louise King adult (added at the end of the record) widow of Frédéric Goedicke. Witnesses were François Trinque, friend of the groom and acting as his father, Henry André "beaupère" de l'épouse (this could be her father in law or her stepfather). Both witnesses sign along with the bride and groom. ^[3]

• The signature of the groom, in the record of 5 Jul 1800 , is not present in the 13 Aug 1776 marriage record and the groom is not noted to be a widower. This represents two different people. They were same name siblings.

Marriage of 28 Aug 1838 is of Toussaint and Marie. Toussaint was the son of Louis-Marie. Louis-Marie is the younger brother of Louis. Multiple children were "legitimized" at the same time. Marriage rehabilitation record: Registres paroissiaux, 1836-1842 Authors: Catholic Church. Diocese of Pembroke (Ontario) (Main Author) Diocèse de Pembroke, Ontario (Repository); Film # 007769217; Images 81 and 82 of 204. Format: Manuscript/Manuscript on Film in French: Marriage rehabilitation record Family Search

Available Synopses about Louis Denys de La Ronde

• The following recap, in French, is an excellent treatise on the speculation that surrounds Louis de la Ronde and Métis descendants of an ancestor by that name and includes numerous reliable sources. L’énigme Thibaudière: Louis Denys de La Ronde & sa famille. Posted 04 Aug 2018 by Diane Gagnon

• Yves Drolet has done extensive research on this family and references prior genealogy research: Histoire généalogique de la famille Denys Montréal Drolet, Yves 2016 Collections de BAnQ