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James George Tylor 101 - History Tree

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  • This Page is an omnibus of information gathered to help sort the Profiles of James the Canadian, and George the convict, 3808, who arrived in Western Australia by various means, a ship via jumping or transportation. . . (read on)
James George (Taylor) Tylor ( 1828 - 1911) From Canada to where, when? DoD, yet Unknown
Julia (Long) Tyler ( 1837 - ?)
George Tyler (1836 - ?) - On the marriage record for Tyler and Long, (1861) the age of James is 31 years, but it should be remembered that on arrival, Francis Seed had an approximate DoB 1831. He died aged 30 years. No marriage record for Seed and Long, other than the recollection in BCDoWA. [1]
a Link to his mother, Margaret Jane Fisher , in Nova Scotia
James George Taylor via familysearch

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Below: A collection of George, James ; Taylor, Tyler, and Tylor entries in BCDoWA. [1]

TAYLOR , George. b. 1825 (expiree), arr. 10. 2. 1853 per Dudbrook, - (approx DoB 1822 ?)
dep. 21 . 3 . 1855 per Fergus for SA.

Name Christian Name(s) Reg No | Term Age-S Trial Place | Day Mth Year | Criminal Offence |
Taylor George 1655 | 7y 28 Ipswich | 06 03 1850 | Larceny
Taylor William 1526 | 15y 28 Maidstone | 17 03 1847 | Burglary

TAYLOR. George. b. 14.10. 1832 (London). d. 23. 8.1914 (Upper Swan), son of Stephen & Anne, arr. from India 1874 /5 per Nubia, m. 15.6.1858 (India) Susannah TATE (nee Smeltzer) b. 1831 d. 1. 11. 1911, widow with 2 sons. Chd. (All born India), Sarab Ann b. 1859, Stephen George b. 1861 d. 1935, Alice Elizabeth b. 1863 d. 1956 (Frem), Robert: Smeltzer b. 1867 d. 1957.
Enlisted 1855 Royal Horse Artillery as John Evans . To India 1855 for over 21 yrs. Bandmaster of Royal Horse Artillery at Mho,"" India. Resumed the name of Taylor in 1873. Was discharged 1875. Lived at Bassendean until 1877 . to East Bullsbrook at Upper Swan, then to Bassendean again. Organised 1st brass band at Guildford 1876- 18805 walking from Upper Swan to practise .

TAYLOR , George, b . 3.1.1833 (London) , d . 29.7. 1908 (Perth) (expiree), son of George .s. Mary. arr . 29.1 1862 per Lincelles. m.1st (UK) Sarah HAYNES , m.2nd 16. 12.1868 (Perth Congr) Elizabeth Matilda SMITH b . c .1846 d. 31.3.1900 (Perth), dtr. of expiree William Richard & Elizabeth (nee Dodson), she arr.13. 6.1853 per Sabrina with her mother, m.3rd Mary Ann STACEY ( widow of 'Willlam , nee Altoft or Laughton) b . 1860 d . 1952.
Chd . ( 1st) George , David, ( 2 nd) (All bp Perth C/E) , 'Fred bp.1868 d . 1910, Selina b . 1871 d . 1933 , Matilda b. 1873 d. 1896, Arthur b. 1874. Emily b . 1876, Alice b . 1878 d . 1934, Maud b. 1880 d. 1952, WaIter b . 1881 d . 1966, Ber-tha b . 1884 d . 1896, Reuben b . 1889 d . 1969.
Builder & bricklayer , Perth & Frera . employing 12 T/L men on occasions 1861-1880, including masons, sawyers, bricklayers & plasterers . Bt. his first Town block E. Perth 1879 & owned others in Wellington St, Goderich St . & Bronte St:. building on them more than 20 houses for rental. Built & owned "Star & Garter" Hotel. Took his son Reuben on a visit to Eng. but cut him out of his will when Reuben m. RC . C/E .

TYLER, (James) George, b. 1836 (? expiree). [1]
Arrived possibly 29.3.1856 per William Hammond.

  • This contributed recollection deals with two profiles; above, George the Convict 3808, and below, James the Canadian, who

m.(1st) 1861 (Perth) Julia LONG (now fiction: widow of Francis Frederick Seed). said to be daughter of Francisca Calvente-y-Formentar (Marquis de Drach) & H. (nee Browne).
she arr. 8 Aug 1857 (cabin) per City of Bristol [2] and was matron of the women passengers,
she became 2nd mistress Perth Girls School, Guildford .
m.(2nd) 2. 8.1882 (Albany) (H)Anna Louisa RlCHARDSON b. 25.5. 1851 d. 16. 1. 1937 (Katanning). widow of Thomas & dtr. of Lamas & Sarah Toovey.
Chd. (1st) Tilda Matilda b. 1862 (Gingin). Frederick.
(2nd) Boward, Bertha. Ada Sophie b . 1883 d . 1968, Albert , Horace.
Blacksmith at Gingin 1860s where wife was Govt. schoolteacher [3] and postmistress 1863 - 1864.
(Dep. 12 . 3. 1878 for S. A. & returned) to work at his trade at Katanning where his 2nd wife was the local midwife. - - ((We now know George the convict traveled to SAust.) , and James the Canadian never left WAust.)

(James Tyler in household of James Tyler, Braintree, Essex, England, United Kingdom; from "1841 ) ?

Long, Julia. (now fiction: m. 1st Francis Frederick Seed,) m. 2nd George James Tyler. [1]
- (note order of names)
Ship Arrival to the Colony of Western Australia with Convicts
William Hammond 1856
Convict Listing
Searches for Julia Long - 1837 England.
Julia Long England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Julia Long England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
Julia Long England and Wales Census, 1841
Julia Long England and Wales Census, 1851

Convict Ships

Runnymede - arrived in WA in 1856 - (approx DoB 1831)
Name Christian Name(s) Reg No | Term Age-S Trial Place Day Mth Year | Criminal Offence |
Seed Francis F. 4026 | 15y 23 Lancaster 02 01 1854 Uttering a forged order for payment of money Also convicted in Lancaster on 5/4/1854 for 15y and his Physical Description
Surname Christian Name Reg No | Occupation M/S Child | Height Hair | Eyes |Face | Complexion Build | Distinguishing Marks
Seed Francis F. 4026 | attorneys' clerk S none | 5' 11" light brown grey long fresh slight 4026 Cut across nose, cut on upper lip, two front teeth out upper jaw

Seed Francis Frederick | 30 | Unknown Unknown | Unknown 1674 1861

Secole Victor Emile Etienne Francis Long Julia | Gingin 5216 1860
Tyler Frederick Male | Smith Rosanna Sarah Female | Perth 6283 1886
0055 TYLER, F


Tyler James Male Long Julia Female Perth 1654 1861
Zela Matilda Gertrude (Tyler) Blechynden (1862 - 1921) Julia (Long) Tyler

Toovey Louisa Lomax Howard Sarah Guildford 1670 1851

Tyler James George Male Richardson Annie Louisa Female Albany 5274 1882

Tyler Sophy Ada George Toovey Anna Louisa Albany 23634 1883
Taylor Bertha James Toovey Annie Lake Matilda 26364 1885
Taylor Wentworth Howard James Toovey Annie Lake Matilda 550 1887
Taylor George James James Richardson Annie Etticup 1346 1889
Taylor Horace Wilford Alfred James George Toovey Annie Louisa Katanning 1044 1893
Tylor Horace Wilfred Alfred James George Toovey Annie Louisa Katanning 1044 1893

Tylor James G Male Katanning 5 1911


William Hammond - arrived in WA in 1856 - (approx DoB 1836)
Name Christian Name(s) Reg No Term Age-S Trial Place Day Mth Year | Criminal Offence |
Tyler George 3808 15y 18 Ipswich 28 07 1854 | House breaking & theft
and his Physical Description
Surname Christian Name Reg No Occupation M/S Child Height Hair | Eyes |Face | Complexion Build | Distinguishing Marks
Tyler George 3808 labourer S none 5' 4 1/2" light brown | dark grey | oval | fair slight | Scar over left eye

Lincelles - arrived in WA in 1862
Name Christian Name(s) Reg No Term Age-S Trial Place Day Mth Year | Criminal Offence |
Taylor George 6009 14y 29 Central Criminal Court .. .. 1860 | Receiving stolen goods


Marion - arrived in WA in 1852 - (approx DoB 1798)
Name Christian Name(s) Reg No Term Age-S Trial Place Day Mth Year | Criminal Offence |
Taylor James Samuel 987 10y 52 CANADA .. .. 1850 | Desertion (Army?)
and his Physical Description
Surname Christian Name Reg No Occupation M/S Child Height Hair | Eyes |Face | Complexion Build | Distinguishing Marks
Taylor James Samuel 987 labourer M five 5' 8 1/4" dark blue round sallow stout 987 | Two scars right leg, one scar on left, one on forehead

TAYLOR, James Samuel. b. Leeds. d . 5. 12.1878, [1] m. 30.4. 1855 (Guildford RC)& 5. 2.1856 (York RC),Elizabeth.- Wilhelmina WELDON (widow) b . 1836 (Irel), dtr. of Thomas Keegan & Ann (nee Wa1sh), she arr. 14.10.1854 per Esmeralda as a servant. Chd. (H)E1len b. 1856, E1iza b. 1858 d. 1858, George b. 1859 (York Wesl), Clara Rhoda b . 1877 (Perth C/E). Listed at York as engineer & miller. Worked also at Victoria Plains & Perth (1877). He died during a brawl with his son George while working at Clune's mill at New Norcia. RC.

Tylor, James George. 27, Jan 1911 . . . . from Oz Burials at Katanning. . . . and Katanning register : . . Burial TYLER JAMES GEORGE BAPTIST 41 29/01/1911 29/01/1911 KATANNING
K atanning
Cemetery

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 The Bicentennial Dictionary of Western Australians, pre-1829-1888. compiled by Rica Erickson
  2. Shipping Intelligence. (1857, August 14). The Perth Gazette and Independent Journal of Politics and News
    (WA : 1848 - 1864), p. 2. Retrieved October 10, 2020
  3. Gingin. (1862, September 5). The Perth Gazette and Independent Journal of Politics and News (WA : 1848 - 1864), p. 3. Retrieved October 11, 2020
from FamilySearch - (for the other James George (Taylor) Tylor of Canada?) ? A hijacked profile.

Family story is that James was the son of Matthew Harkness who died before he was born, resulting in him taking the name of his step-father Matthew Taylor. I have not found any documented evidence for this. (? Which family where. )
He is reported to have travelled to Australia as sailor, and to have jumped ship in Western Australia.
The Bicentennial Dictionary of Western Australians, suggests a George Tyler (may have) arrived (29/3/1856) and gives a birth year of 1836, on the William Hammond, which was a convict transport ship.
In Australia Tyler began using the name Tylor(?) not sure if this was a mis-spelling that he adopted or a deliberate change. His first marriage certificate gives the name Tyler, and his death certificate Tylor.
Tyler was the Blacksmith in Gingin from 1860 to 1878.
Tyler married Julia Long, who was a government schoolteacher and postmistress in Gingin, on June 20th, 1861, in Wesleyan Chapel, Perth. She is reported to have left Gingin suddenly in 1864. (ran off with someone), after which James went to South Australia ?
Tyler (returned to WA and) married Annie Louisa Richardson (nee Toovey) in the Albany Anglican Church in 1882.
James and Annie had 5 children and owned a Smithy shop in Eticup from 1883 to 1892. After this they moved to and remained in Katanning.
More (subjective) information on wikitree (in this merged Profile) = Taylor-38063 =

The ? of this Sketch is : Is the Canadian a Convict, born in Essex, England . . . .





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