Jenkins DNA Stirlingshire Perthshire Scotland
Surnames/tags: Jenkins Stirlingshire Perthshire
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Intro
The main goal of this project is to document DNA tested lines of the Jenkins (and variant surnames) where the earliest known ancestry is from Stirlingshire or Perthshire.
Also to encourage:
- further documentation of the Jenkins lines from this area here on WikiTree.
- further DNA testing, to see if your line connects to those already represented, or belongs to an as yet unrepresented line.
How can you help?
If a Jenkins (etc) male, the cheapest and quickest way to gain a position on the tree of Jenkins-kind is a FamilyFinder test at FamiyTreeDNA.
With this test comes a more specific branch of the tree than is allocated from the ySTR tests (y37 / y111).
For example our latest recruit was assigned to R-S691 from his FamiyFinder test, this being the "granddaddy" of the common branch both the Perthshire and Stirlngshire twigs descend from (R-BY19860). His y37 test is allocated as R-M269, much earlier in the "tree"
Once that has been determined, either test the yDNA matches with the entry level y37 test, or jump straight to BigY to get the additional timeframe and sub branch information that keeps on giving as other matches join and provide further definition of the branching.
Further information
Two Family Tree DNA projects between them cover this group.
If your Jenkins (etc) line has a direct male line from this area and you want to learn more about how DNA testing can help, please do contact me ( Lorna) either from the FFLornaHen project page or via here, on WikiTree,.
Do please document your Jenkins (etc) lines from this area, and if a direct male line exists, please send them along.
If the line has a yDNA tester here on WikiTree where the earliest known direct male line ancestor is not yet shown on the companion category page for this, please do add the Jenkins_DNA_Stirlingshire_Perthshire_Scotland category to that earliest ancestor's profile. You can read about Categorisation here.
The History
The driver behind the formation of this Free Space profile, and companion category, being my (Lorna's) personal search for the unkonwn Jenkins male who is my 3* great grandfather. For more information, please check out (this link)
Thank you for helping document these families. Henderson-2297 09:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Haplogroup
The current (Nov 2023) situation is that one haplogroup connects a line from Stirilingshire, to a line from Perthshire. They meet back at R-BY19860, a subbranch of R-SS7361
The time frames for the DNA branches formed can be seen on FamilyTreeDNA's Discover. This will be refined as additional BigY results are added.
Milestones
Aug 2024: BigY results in. No new sub branch created. Joins the parent R-BY19859 branch, leaving the Henderson mystery subset of testers still in their own sub branch of this on R-BY19865. Which I ( Lorna) interpret as not therefore descended from either of the siblings, Patrick/Peter and Robert, who are now represented with a BigY test each. Back to the drawing board to find another suitable tester descended from either another sibling of these two, or a descendant of any of their 1st cousins, or of any Perthshire origin Jenkins (or variant) who was around about Hogmanay 1813 for that matter.
Jun 2024: y111 results in from the BigY upgrade of the newly tested Perthshire branch. ySTR results show this tester as closest to the modal for all the Perthshire / Stirlingshire testers under R-BY19860. The Genetic Distances (GD) show GD 3 to the other rep from his believed family, and GD 4 down to 9 for the Henderson and Stirlingshire Jenkins lines respectively
May 2024: Not (yet?) a new sub branch, but a y37 test in from a descendant of a different line of the Perthshire family is showing a preliminary set of close matches and has been ugraded to BigY.
Nov 2023: New sub branch, R-FTE63859, created for Stirlingshire line testers to date created under the overall parent branch R-BY19860. Estimated "born" about 1750 give or take 200 years. Parent, R-BY19860 now slightly changed to "born" about 1540 give or take 250 years. With the Perthshire Sub branch R-BY19859 now estimated as "born" about 1640 give or take 150 years.
Sep 2023: Creation of new "parent" , R-BY19860 for R-BY19859 with arrival of results for a Stirlingshire line. Timeframe for formation of this connecting branch is estimated to have been about 1530 give or take a couple of hundred years.
April 2023: Creation of R-BY19865 a new sub branch to R-BY19859 for the Henderson cousins, with arrival of results for a Jenkins Perthshire line.
Jul 2020: 3rd Henderson tester confirms DNA Signature back to James Henderson (1813-1892).
Aug 2017 Henderson 2nd cousins who share James Henderson b. 1813 Stirlingshire assigned to R-S7361. (Actually assigned originally on ScotlandsDNA many years earlier ) No matches at all y37+
You can contribute
Right now this project just has one member, me, Lorna Henderson.
Will you join me? Please post a comment here on this page, in G2G using the project tag, or send me a private message.
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