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John Urie and Janet Risk Conflation

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Profiles possibly conflated

Profiles and families seem to be conflated with parents, birth dates, and locations for Janet do not match sources in one profile and spouse John Urie could be duplicated and should not be connected to both Janet Risk profiles.


Research Notes

Conflated Sources vs linked profiles with dates and locations

Birth source that matches linked parents for Risk-291 and birth / baptism date has location of Renfrewshire, but profile has birth location of Fintry.

  • Janet Risk, daughter of Thomas Risk and Janet Purdie, was born on 8 May 1800 and baptized on 15 May 1800 at Low Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland.[1][2]

Birth source with location of Fintry, Stirlingshire matches birth location, but not date or parents, matches Risk-102

  • Janet Risk, daughter of James Risk and Mary Junkine, was baptized on 1 Oct 1797 in , Fintry, Stirling, Scotland.[3]

Marriage source with spouse in Fintry, does not match linked marriage date in Renfrewshire

  • Janet Risk married John Urie on 21 Jan 1820 in Fintry, Stirling, Scotland.[4]


  • following census has Janet, born in Fintry, children birth location and names match linked children
    • In the 1851 census at 34 King St, Pollackshaws, Eastwood, Renfrewshire.[5]
      • Janet was born in Fintry, Stirlingshire, but that does not match the birth sources that match the parents and birth date has Renfrewshire
      • children match the linked children, other than Elizabeth who was b 1827 in Renfrewshire[6], and the birth locations match
      • linked spouse John matches birth location
    • In the 1861 census at 33, Pollokshaws, Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Janet was a Cowfeeder.[7]


Possible Profile Changes



Should spouse and children be disconnected and connected to Risk-102??



  • In the 1851 census at 34 King St, Pollackshaws, Eastwood, Renfrewshire.[13]
  • In the 1861 census at 33, Pollokshaws, Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Janet was a Cowfeeder.[14]

  • Census show children and father born in Pollackshaws, Eastwood, Renfrewshire.
  • John Urie that is linked in both profiles is probably duplicate since they have same dates and same parents. Marriage date of 1819 and 1820 in different profiles could be marriage banns and actual marriage since it is Dec 1819 and Jan 1820
  • Children linked to Risk-29 have that location, except for 1st child Elizabeth. Children linked to Risk-102 have Eastwood, but they could be Pollackshaws since some died there.
  • Reviewing 1851 and 1861 census, all children 'possibly' should be linked to Risk-102
    • Elizabeth is linked in both sets of parent profiles.
    • John is linked to both father profiles, but not both mother profiles, not linked to Risk-291
    • Children James and William connected to Risk-102 are the older children in 1851 census
    • Younger Children in 1851 census are connected to Risk-291

Sources

  1. "Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, (Ancestry Record 60143 #18662796 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Risk baptism on 15 May 1800 (born 8 May 1800), daughter of Thomas Risk & Janet Purdie, at Low Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland; citing Original data Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah FamilySearch, 2013.
  2. "Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, (Ancestry Record 60143 #7383821 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Risk baptism on 15 May 1800, daughter of Thomas Risk & Janet Purdie, at Low Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland; citing Original data Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah FamilySearch, 2013.
  3. "Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, (Ancestry Record 60143 #5411751 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Risk baptism on 1 Oct 1797, daughter of James Risk & Mary Junkine, in , Fintry, Stirling, Scotland; citing Original data Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah FamilySearch, 2013.
  4. "Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910," database, (Ancestry Record 60144 #2731287 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Risk marriage to John Urie on 21 Jan 1820 in Fintry, Stirling, Scotland; citing Original data Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910. Salt Lake City, Utah FamilySearch, 2013.
  5. "1851 Scotland Census," database, (Ancestry Record 1076 #1436315 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Urie (50), wife, in household of John Urie (59) at 34 King St, Pollackshaws, Eastwood, Renfrewshire. Born in Fintry, Stirlingshire; citing Parish Eastwood, ED 3, Page 34, Line 17, Roll CSSCT1851_117, Year 1851, Household schedule number 146, Roll CSSCT1851_117.
    John Urie Head M 59 Hand Loom Weaver Cotton P Shaws, Renfrew
    Janet Urie Wife F 50 Fintry, Stirlingshire
    James Urie Son M 27 Mason P Shaws, Renfrew
    William Urie Son M 21 Mason P Shaws, Renfrew
    Agnes Urie Daughter F 18 Power Loom Weaver P Shaws, Renfrew
    Jane Urie Daughter F 16 Power Loom Weaver P Shaws, Renfrew
    Mathew Urie Son M 13 Scholar P Shaws, Renfrew
    Janet Urie Daughter F 10 Scholar P Shaws, Renfrew
    Alexander Urie Son M 8 Scholar P Shaws, Renfrew
  6. "Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, (Ancestry Record 60143 #4913977 : accessed 6 August 2023), Elizabeth Urie born to Janet Risk and John Urie on 14 Oct 1827 in , Eastwood, Renfrew, Scotland; citing Original data Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah FamilySearch, 2013.
  7. "1861 Scotland Census," database, (Ancestry Record 1080 #1795726 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Urie (59), Cowfeeder, head of household at 33, Pollokshaws in Eastwood registration district. Born in Fintry, Stirling; citing Parish Eastwood, ED 8, Page 13, Line 11, Roll CSSCT1861_75, Registration Number 562, Household schedule number 77, Roll CSSCT1861_75.
    Janet Urie Head F 59 Cowfeeder Fintry, Stirling
    Janet Urie Daughter F 20 Domestic Serv Pollokshaws, Renfrew
    Alene Urie Son M 17 Mason Pollokshaws, Renfrew
  8. "Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, (Ancestry Record 60143 #18662796 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Risk baptism on 15 May 1800 (born 8 May 1800), daughter of Thomas Risk & Janet Purdie, at Low Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland; citing Original data Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah FamilySearch, 2013.
  9. "Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, (Ancestry Record 60143 #7383821 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Risk baptism on 15 May 1800, daughter of Thomas Risk & Janet Purdie, at Low Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland; citing Original data Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah FamilySearch, 2013.
  10. "Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, (Ancestry Record 60143 #5411751 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Risk baptism on 1 Oct 1797, daughter of James Risk & Mary Junkine, in , Fintry, Stirling, Scotland; citing Original data Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah FamilySearch, 2013.
  11. "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1LH-Y7J : 16 September 2021), Janet Risk, 1797.
  12. "Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910," database, (Ancestry Record 60144 #2731287 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Risk marriage to John Urie on 21 Jan 1820 in Fintry, Stirling, Scotland; citing Original data Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910. Salt Lake City, Utah FamilySearch, 2013.
  13. "1851 Scotland Census," database, (Ancestry Record 1076 #1436315 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Urie (50), wife, in household of John Urie (59) at 34 King St, Pollackshaws, Eastwood, Renfrewshire. Born in Fintry, Stirlingshire; citing Parish Eastwood, ED 3, Page 34, Line 17, Roll CSSCT1851_117, Year 1851, Household schedule number 146, Roll CSSCT1851_117.
    John Urie Head M 59 Hand Loom Weaver Cotton P Shaws, Renfrew
    Janet Urie Wife F 50 Fintry, Stirlingshire
    James Urie Son M 27 Mason P Shaws, Renfrew
    William Urie Son M 21 Mason P Shaws, Renfrew
    Agnes Urie Daughter F 18 Power Loom Weaver P Shaws, Renfrew
    Jane Urie Daughter F 16 Power Loom Weaver P Shaws, Renfrew
    Mathew Urie Son M 13 Scholar P Shaws, Renfrew
    Janet Urie Daughter F 10 Scholar P Shaws, Renfrew
    Alexander Urie Son M 8 Scholar P Shaws, Renfrew
  14. "1861 Scotland Census," database, (Ancestry Record 1080 #1795726 : accessed 6 August 2023), Janet Urie (59), Cowfeeder, head of household at 33, Pollokshaws in Eastwood registration district. Born in Fintry, Stirling; citing Parish Eastwood, ED 8, Page 13, Line 11, Roll CSSCT1861_75, Registration Number 562, Household schedule number 77, Roll CSSCT1861_75.
    Janet Urie Head F 59 Cowfeeder Fintry, Stirling
    Janet Urie Daughter F 20 Domestic Serv Pollokshaws, Renfrew
    Alene Urie Son M 17 Mason Pollokshaws, Renfrew




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