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Biography

The White Family of South Petherton, Somerset, England has been thoroughly researched and documented by Almira Larkin White in her 1912 genealogy "Ancestry of John Barber White and of his Descendants"[1]

John was baptized 1 June 1628 at Drayton Parish in Burton, Somerset, England, the first born son of of parents, John White and Joane West. His parents and younger siblings migrated to Salem, MA in 1639. John White d. Abt. 1673 and his wife Joane West are reported to have had five children that were baptized in Somerset, England, with four of them having immigrated with them to Salam, MA in 1638. Additionally, three other children were born in Salam/Wenham, including Josiah White b. 1643.

John White b.1628 is not mentioned in his father’s will of 1673 but is mentioned in his grandfather Richard West will of 1643 where Richard bequeathed a two year old Bay mare to his grandson[2]. This suggests that the 15 year old boy was in Somerset, England in 1643 and did not travel with his father, mother, and other siblings to Salem, MA in 1638 possibility remaining in England during this period living with and/or caring for his grandfather.[3]

Savage seems to have confused John White b.1628 with his father. The actions attributed to this John in Lancaster actually correspond to those of his father John White. [4]

John White the father returned to England in 1648 because of a property dispute with his brother. He sued Robert, claiming that his sibling had appropriated all the monies from properties their father owned, but never given him his fair share. A few years after his return in 1651 [1 May 1653], he went with his family to Lancaster, MA, leaving his son Thomas on the home farm in Wenham.

No additional records have been found that can definitively tie the son John White b.1628 to his family in Lancaster. Its possible he came to New England on one of is father's return trips after the death of his grandfather in 1643, however this is purely speculation.

Its also possible John White b.1628 immigrated directly to Virginia as he appears t have had ties to his mother's West family who were early settlers in Isle of Wight. The remainder of this profile will build and document this assumption.

Possible John White b.1628 Family

John White, d.1719 has been well documented and researched by several sources. Unfortunately, many Isle of Wight and Nansemond County documents have been lost or destroyed making it difficult to determine his parents and possible siblings.



Y-DNA Analysis

Two Y-DNA testers with White surnames and a documented lineage to John White-Lancaster, MA show a more distant, although highly correlated, MRCA with John White d.1719. It is known that John White Lancaster had a son John White b.1628 that immigrated to Massachusetts with his father and Joane West (his mother) but disappeared from Lancaster records. Could this John White have immigrated down to the Virginia Colony from Massachusetts?

Two documented descendants of Josiah White b. 1643 (Son of John White Lancaster, MA) show a genetic distance on the FamilyTreeDNA Y-111 Y-DNA test that support a conclusion that descendants of John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight and Josiah White b. 1643 share a significant likelihood of a common ancestor around 12 generations, suggesting a possibility that John White d. Abt. 1673 could be the common ancestor. [5] An analysis of the Y-DNA participants in the FamilyTreeDNA White Surname Project Group utilizing the Y-DNA Family Grouping APP (shown in attachment as I-M253 Haplo Group 22) indicates that these descendants are genetically very close.




West Family Ties To Virginia

There have also been researchers who have suggested that Joane West's brother Henry West and his wife were killed by an Indian Massacre of 1644 leaving behind two young brothers, one of which was William West, who would have been cousins to the John White b. 1628 in Lancaster.


Family

Additionally, 2 descendants from the immigrant John White Lancaster, MA have been identified and share a slightly more distant genetic Y-DNA distance to the William White, b. 1580 descendants. John White Lancaster, MA has been validated as a descendent of Robert White and Joan West from South Petherton County, Somerset, England identified as the 6th generation in the Genesis of the White Family by Emma Siggins White, 1920. page, 37.[6] suggesting that William White b. 1580 is likely a descendant from one of the South Petherton, Somerset, England White family.

Finally, Derek White and KW are documented descendants of John White Lancaster, MA and share a fairly close genetic Y-DNA distance to Charles White a documented descendent of John White, d.1719. John White Lancaster, MA has been validated as a descendent of Robert White and Joan West from South Petherton County, Somerset, England identified as the 6th generation in the Genesis of the White Family by Emma Siggins White, 1920. page, 37.[7]

Although the buildout of the Somerset White family is not complete, the 5th generation identified by Emma Siggins White [8]and others [9][10] [11] identify both a William White and Henry White as cousins to John White Lancaster, MA And from a timeline perspective, descendants from the 5th or 6th generation of the Somerset Whites could fit as the progenitor to this family. The Y-DNA reconciles with John White, d.1719, the family has a active history in the Anglican Church as “church wardens”, and the family given names are consistent with those used by John, Thomas, and Henry. Further research is required to determine if this branch of the White Family were related to early Colonial involvement in the Virginia Company as mentioned in the "The Genesis of The United States" [12]

I). Relationship to John White d. Abt. 1673, Lancaster, MA. and his son John White b.1628 —- Closely Related

The White Family of South Petherton, Somerset, England has been thoroughly researched and documented by Almira Larkin White in her 1912 genealogy "Ancestry of John Barber White and of his Descendants". The earliest immigrant of this family John White d. Abt. 1673 is known to have traveled to New England in1638 becoming one of the earliest of the White surnamed descendants in that region, initially settling in Salam and eventually moving to Lancaster, MA. [13]





While the John White d. Abt. 1673, Lancaster, MA. family is genetically extremely close to John White and Henry White (they all share the I-M253 Group 22 Haplo Group), the genetic difference likely too great for John White b.1628, Son of John White d. Abt. 1673, Lancaster, MA. to be the father of John White d.1719.

Y-DNA Analysis

Two Y-DNA testers with White surnames and a documented lineage to John White-Lancaster, MA show a more distant, although highly correlated, MRCA with John White d.1719. It is known that John White Lancaster had a son John White b.1628 that immigrated to Massachusetts with his father and Joane West (his mother) but disappeared from Lancaster records. Could this John White have immigrated down to the Virginia Colony from Massachusetts?

Two documented descendants of Josiah White b. 1643 (Son of John White Lancaster, MA) show a genetic distance on the FamilyTreeDNA Y-111 Y-DNA test that support a conclusion that descendants of John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight and Josiah White b. 1643 share a significant likelihood of a common ancestor around 12 generations, suggesting a possibility that John White d. Abt. 1673 could be the common ancestor. [14] An analysis of the Y-DNA participants in the FamilyTreeDNA White Surname Project Group utilizing the Y-DNA Family Grouping APP (shown in attachment as I-M253 Haplo Group 22) indicates that these descendants are genetically very close.

Sources

  1. ↑ https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/44551/?offset=#page=49&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
  2. ↑ https://ia803200.us.archive.org/11/items/ancestryofjohnba00whit/ancestryofjohnba00whit.pdf
  3. ↑ Almira Larkin White. Genealogy of the Descendants of John White of Wenham and Lancaster Massachusetts 1:16, 4:13. Chase Brothers, 1900. Digital books from Archive.org accessed 31 Jan 2018.
  4. ↑ James Savage. A genealogical dictionary of the first settlers of New England showing three generations of those who came before May, 1692, on the basis of Farmer's Register, Volume IV. Boston; Little, Brown and Company; 1862. pages 510-511.
  5. ↑ Derek White and KW are documented descendants of John White Lancaster, MA and are a genetic distance of 2 and 5, respectively on the Y-111 Y-DNA test to Charles White a documented descendent of John White, d.1719
  6. ↑ https://archive.org/details/genesisofwhitefa00whit/page/36/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater
  7. ↑ https://archive.org/details/genesisofwhitefa00whit/page/36/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater
  8. ↑ https://archive.org/details/genesisofwhitefa00whit/page/36/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater
  9. ↑ http://www.josephsmithsr.com/lucymack/getperson.php?personID=I31101&tree=josephsmithsr
  10. ↑ http://www.gulbangi.com/5families-o/p395.htm#i9864
  11. ↑ https://books.google.com/books?id=mTZPDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA188&lpg=PA188&dq=christened+on+August+24,+1558+in+Hastings,+Sussex,+Eng.+william+white&source=bl&ots=8O1kbQjMo-&sig=ACfU3U0ivzclC9J_tu1hqQiY4YhJVsQkcw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj97e_LgL35AhXbpIkEHbguBzIQ6AF6BAgDEAI#v=onepage&q=christened%20on%20August%2024%2C%201558%20in%20Hastings%2C%20Sussex%2C%20Eng.%20william%20white&f=false
  12. ↑ https://archive.org/details/TheGenesisOfTheUnitedStates/page/n639/mode/2up?q=white
  13. ↑ https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/44551/?offset=#page=49&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
  14. ↑ Derek White and KW are documented descendants of John White Lancaster, MA and are a genetic distance of 2 and 5, respectively on the Y-111 Y-DNA test to Charles White a documented descendent of John White, d.1719






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