Joseph Degroat Online Notes

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This is what I put together about Joseph De Groat from what I have. Glenna

Joseph DE GROAT born (1746??) (Albany) New York/or New Jersey? married c. 1792 Quebec Hannah RUITER (bapt. 4 March 1774 Schaghticoke - 1813/1814 ) d/o Henrick RUITER and Rebecca DAAT died 7 January 1830? Albany New York?

Joseph's surname was spelled various ways, such as De Groat, De Groot, de Groat, De Grote and Desgrotes. In Colonial America the surname might have been either De Groot or De Groote or even Groot, Groat or Graadt, although his descendants always put the De in their surname.

Joseph De Groat was likely born in either New Jersey or New York, where there were De Groat or De Groot families. There were Groats, who were descendants of Groats of New England in Quebec and living near his sons Henry and Peter in Upper Canada, but it seems Joseph did not belong to that family. He could however, have belonged to a family of Groats who had been Graadts and were Palatine Germans who lived in Albany County.

Joseph was said to have been born in Albany, New York, by descendants who joined the Sons and Daughters of the American Revolution. He may have been in Albany County just before he came to Canada or at the time of the War of Independence, since his wife's parents Henry Ruiter and Rebecca Daat were from Albany County. They were at Pittstown before the War and had also lived at Hoosic and had property at Stone Arabia. Joseph may however, have been born in Westchester or Dutchess County, or be may have been from the family of De Groats who lived on Staten Island in Richmond County, New York. since those were Loyalist areas, unlike Ulster County. Most of those with the surname De Groot/De Groote lived in New Jersey and some of them sided with the British. There was a John De Groat who lived at Duanesberg, New York on the 1790 New York census. Other families who lived near the De Groats in Quebec came from Dutchess County such as the Mannings and there were Mannings who also lived at Duanesberg.

Marriage

Joseph De Groat married Hannah (Annatie) Ruiter/Reuter c. 1792 in Quebec. Hannah Ruiter, was the daughter of Henrick/Henry Ruiter/Ruyder/Reuter and Rebecca Daat. She was baptized as Annatie Ruiter, at the Dutch Reform Church, Schaghticoke, Albany County, New York, on 4 March 1774. Annatie in Dutch or German is translated as Anna, but it was translated into English by the Ruiters as Hannah. Hannah and her sister Margaret are not mentioned as children of Henry Ruiter and Rebecca in sketches written about Henry Ruiter, but she is mentioned on a list Henry made of his children who had taken the Oath of Allegiance to the British Crown. (See below). Her mother's surname is also given at times as Staats and Dooth. Hannah was either born in Pittstown, New York or at Hoosack, New York. The deed for her father's property at Pittstown is dated June of 1774, a few months after her baptism. The Ruiters had been living at Hoosack/Hoosick/ Hoosac before moving to Pittstown.

Not long after Hannah was born, her father Henry Ruiter joined the British side during the American Revolution. Henry had fought with the British during the French and the Indian Wars. The Ruiters were of Palatine German descent and been in New York state since 1710, and it was Henry's grandfather who had come from Germany to America. The Germans in the area where he had settled, particularly the ones who had come from Germany not long before the Revolution started, sided with the British. Descendants of Palatines who had gone to Ireland at the same time as Hannah's ancestors came to New York, had more recently arrived in New York state along with other Irish immigrants sided with the British too, Many Scottish officers who fought in the French and Indian Wars had been granted land in New York state and they too recruited like Henry Ruiter did for the British.

Hannah was a small child at the time of the Battle of Bennington, that took place near where she lived. After General Burgoyne was defeated at Saratoga in October of 1777 her father was forced to flee to Canada. Her mother tried to carry on until finally in 1780 she too fled to Quebec. Hannah's parents and siblings were among the refugees at St. John, (St. John's/St. Johns) Quebec. In 1781, Hannah's mother Rebecca died not long after her arrival in Quebec, and her father remarried in 1783.

Joseph De Groat's father-in-law Henry Ruiter was a Loyalist, but Joseph may have been a, Patriot who fought on the side of the Americans in the War of Independence. Mary K. James wrote that her uncle was able to obtain a SAR as a descendant of the Joseph De Groat who married Hannah Writer. (The spelling should be Ruiter). Harriet (Smith) McPhee was the first to join the Daughters of the American Revolution as a descendant of Joseph. On her application it indicates that Joseph DeGroat was a private in Capt. James Waldrom's (Waldron's) Co., Albany Co. Militia. This is from the book - New York Men in the Revolution, pages 203, 208 - DAR, Natl. #21484. Her full name was Harriet Lorena Nolan Eshelman McPhee. Harriet WELLS daughter of Catherine De Groat and Jonathan Wells married Charles M. SMITH. Their daughter Caroline (Carrie) Sophia born 1849 married Smith W. NOLAN. Carrie SMITH and Smith NOLAN's daughter Harriet (Hattie) Lorena born 1864 married first. Benjamin Franklin ESHELMAN and then John MCPHEE. Hattie died in 1934. She joined the DAR in the 1920s.

This branch of Joseph De Groat's descendants might however, have been mistaken over which Joseph De Groat was the father of Catherine De Groat. who married Jonathan Wells. Catherine's father Joseph De Groat may rather have helped out Henry Ruiter and have been of some kind of service to the British side. Rick J. Ashton has in his The Life of Henry Ruiter 1742 - 1819. a transcription of the land petition Lower Canada Land Papers Ruel, Ignace - Ruiter, Henry & others RG 1 L 3 Vol. 171 where Henry Ruiter mentions that his "Sons, Philip, John and Henry Ruiter and his Sons in Law Joseph DeGroat and Henry Able who have families and who also were in the King's Service last war." If Joseph did help the British side it could have been after having been taken prisoner by the British side.

No records have been found of any De Groats or De Groots as having come to Canada as Loyalists. However, there are at least three De Groats/De Grotes/De Groots who were in Canada who had married daughters of Loyalists, including Joseph De Groat, but there appear to have been no De Groats who petitioned for land or were granted land as Loyalists in their own right. John De Groat's wife, Mary McCaffrey was the daughter of the Loyalist John McCaffrey. John De Groat came to Canada to the Cornwall area in 1790 according to his land petition. Staats De Grote's son Peter De Grote's wife Phebe Griffin was the daughter of the Loyalist Joseph Griffin. Staats petitioned for a lease, not land, in 1801. However, both John and Staats may have been Loyalists who did not come to Canada until 1790 or later and therefore they were not eligible to petition for land grants as Loyalists in Ontario since they did not get on the Loyalist List as having arrived by 1788. Joseph De Groat was granted land not as a Loyalist, but as an "associate" of Henry Ruiter, his father-in-law who vouched for his loyalty and put on his petition that Joseph had served the King.

WHEN DID JOSEPH DE GROAT COME TO CANADA?

The only records so far found of any De Groats on Lower Canada land records are of a Joseph De Groat, a Joseph De Grote. and a Joseph Desgrotes. On Dr. Philip Ruiter's records he mentions a "Joseph De Groot" who worked for him. All those Josephs appear to refer to the same man, the Joseph De Groat who married Hannah Ruiter, daughter of Henry Ruiter.

Joseph De Groat may have come to Canada around 1790 to 1792. He does not appear on any records until perhaps 1792, as an associate of Henry Ruiter on Henry's land petiton of that year. I thought Joseph had been in New Brunswick before coming to Quebec because his son Henry De Groat's family seemed to think Henry might have been born in New Brunswick. However, it is more likely that Henry was born at St. John's (also spelled St. Johns or St. John) Quebec. Fort St. John's was where Loyalists such as Joseph De Groat's father-in-law Henry Ruiter were staying for a time during and after the American Revolution. Henry De Groat's family may have thought that if he was born at St. John, it was probably St. John, New Brunswick. Henry was born in 1794 and his father may have been in St. John , Quebec at that time.

There are a number of Land Petitions at the National Archives, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada (PAC, Public Archives Canada) where Joseph De Groat's name is mentioned. I did not check these land petitions. The Archivist wrote in a letter containing the list of petitions that the names are in lists of petitioners and therefore there is not much information about individuals. Joseph De Groat's name likely only appears as an associate of Henry Ruiter on each land record. Henry Ruiter had been an officer in a Loyalist corps and therefore was eventually granted a large amount of acreage for himself and his associates.

From the National Archives of Canada when queried about a Joseph De Groat: Lower Canada Land Records (RG1 L3) (vol. 129, pp. 63572- 63580. Reel C-2543_ (vol. 148, pp. 72579-72583, reel C-2550) (vol. 171, pp. 83314 - 83362, reel C-2559) (vol. 194, pp. 92515 - 92522, reel C-2566) "Please note that many of the Lower Canada land petitions are lengthy group petitions. As you ancestor's name may appear on only one page within the entire document, may I suggest that you first consult the microfilm copy and identify specific page numbers before requesting copies."

Lower Canada Land Records from an index on a microfilm reel that I copied from gives some idea of the dates.

De Groat Joseph 1791 - 1799 Lower Canada Land pp. 83314 - 83362 (This is the Land Petition of Henry Ruiter's, 9 November 1797, LCLP (Lower Canada Land Petitions), 83339-42, PAC

1792 - 1795 De Groat Joseph Lower Canada Land pp. 63572 - 63580

1796 Joseph De Groat Lower Canada Land - 72579 - 83

I copied 1793 Joseph De Groat Lower Canada Land - 92515 - 92522 but perhaps should be later??

Joseph De Groat then seems to become Joseph De Grote (He was granted the 200 acres in Potton Township in 1803. This is likely the grant numbers rather than the petitions. De Grote Joseph 1798 - 1803 Lower Canada Land Records pp. 31095 - 31122 De Grote Joseph Lower Canada Land Records 1802 1828 p. 1510 De Grote Joseph Lower Canada Land Records 1803 p. 1279 De Grote Joseph 1803 Lower Canada Land Records p. 2084 De Grote Joseph 1803 Lower Canada Land 5341 - 5348 De Grote Joseph 1803 Lower Canada Land pp. 15218 - 15233

Below is a transcription of one of the above land petitions, where Henry Ruiter mentions his son-in-law Joseph De Groat. The copy of the petition I have from the microfilm is blurry and must be difficult to read on the microfilm reader. On the copy I have I can only see the first part of the "Joseph" and black where surname) Note the dates Henry Ruiter petitioned earlier. Those might be the above mentioned land petitions where Joseph De Groat's name is mentioned as an associate.

Lower Canada Land Papers Ruel, Ignace - Ruiter Henry & others RG 1 L 3 Vol. 171 To His Excellency Robert Prescott Esquire Captain General and Governor in Chief of the Province of Lower Canada, General and Commander of the Battalion of British Militia on the Frontiers and in the District of St. Johns- Humbly sheweth That your petitioner, at the commencement of the American war, abandoned his property, which was considerable in the Province of New York, joined the King's Forces and served during the War in this Country, as Captain of Roger's Provincial Corps- That your petitioner was employed during the whole of the American War, at the immediate risque of his life, in the Enemy's Country, gaining intelligence of their motions, and their designs, always conducting himself to the approbation of the several Commanders in Chief in this Country for which extra service he received no compensations- That your Petitioner suffered very much in his private fortunate, for which he has not received compensation, from circumstances too tedious to trouble your Excellency with- That your petitioner has never received any of the King's Waste Lands, either for himself or family, as other Captains of other Loyalist Corps have received- That when the granting of the King's Waste Lands on the east side of Lake Champlain, was first talked of, in consequence of the encouragement held out by General Clarke's Proclamation of the 7th of February 1792, your Petitioner and Mr. Conroy, with three hundred others, applied for the Townships of Sutton and Potton, as appears by their several Petitions of February and March of that year- That afterwards, the beginning of February 1795, when our petitioner found that Lands were promised by Orders of the Governor in Council, to other people on more favourable terms, whose pretensions were not equal to his, and that most of the original petitioners were to obtain Lands as Associates in different Townships, your petitioner with Mr. Conroy, presented to the Commissioners appointed for the purpose, lists of 40 associates each, as was then customary. That the associates brought forward by your Petitioner (approved Loyalists) having been approved as well by the Governor in Council as by the Commissioners, having taken the oaths to His Majesty and having complyed with the forms and conditions required, your petitioner, prevented by sickness from coming to Quebec to solicit for his Warrant of Survey and Patent, and never conceiving that for want of that form, he should not be dealt with as favourable as others and conceiving that the faith of the Government was pledged to him, your petitioner at a very great expence and trouble, to the detriment of his health, completed the Survey of the Township of Potton, with its subdivisions. That the expence attending the said Survey and the improvements of some of the land has much reduced your petitioner in his circumstances, which he had flattered himself would have been considerably bettered from the advantages that would have accrued from the Grant of the said Township- That your petitioner is the father of 13 Children, several of whom are young and look up to him for support- Your Petitioner therefore prays that your Excellency in Council may be pleased to take his case and services into consideration and may direct, 1st That the granting of Land in said Township of Potton may be suspended until such time as your petitioner's Claims and Services are fully investigated, except in such cases where some of your petitioners original associates, who were recommended for 1200 acres, have made Locations, and to them not before compensation has been made to your Petitioner for the expence and trouble he has been at in the Survey in proportion to the land they may obtain- 2nd. That your Excellency and Council may be pleased to grand in said Township to your petitioner and his numerous family, such portion of Land as other Captains in Loyalist Corps have obtained elsewhere for themselves and family, and that in particular the lots he has improved may be granted to him as part of the Lands now prayed for vizt. Lots No. 8 & 9 in first Concession No. 1, 3 & 4 in 4th Concession and No. 1, 8 & 9 in 5th Concession, all of 200 Acres each - Lastly Your petitioner prays That until such time as your Excellency and Council are pleased to determine what further indulgence you may be pleased to grant your Petitioner in said Township, that his Sons, Philip, John and Henry Ruiter and Sons in Law Joseph DeGroat and Henry Able, who have families and who also were in the King's Service last war, such proportions of land as in your Excellency's and the Council's benevolence and wisdom may seem meet- Permit your petitioner further to set forth, in addition to the hardships already noticed, that he must be a considerable sufferer by the Grant of 6000 Acres, which he just now learned has been largely given Major Maclean; but which he is persuaded would not have taken place had your Excellency been apprized of your petitioner's having, at a great expense, surveyed and subdivided the whole Township- Wherefore your petitioner humbly prays your Excellency to be graciously pleased to take the premises into consideration, and to grant such relief, upon the whole, as your Excellency in your wisdom and justice may think fitting and expedient. And your Petitioner, as in duty bound, will every pray- By Procuration from Henry Ruiter Henry Caldwell Quebec 9th November, 1797

This land petition of Henry Ruiter's is transcribed in The Life of Henry Ruiter 1742 - 1819 by Rick J. Ashton, Copyright 1974, by Rick J. Ashton, Appendix A. "Selected Documents on the Life of Henry Ruiter." I used Ashton's transcription instead of trying to read my copy of the land petition from the microfilm.

Rich Ashton wrote: "This booklet had its origins in the interest aroused in Frank H. Woods of Chicago by the letters of his grandfather Frederick M. Woods, recounting his 1909 visit to Potton, Quebec. Curious about the life, family, and circumstances of his earliest traceable North American ancestor, his great-great-great grandfather Henry Ruiter, he commissioned me to carry out the research and the writing. Throughout the project he has been generous with encouragement and financial support.

I wish to thank two other individuals for their help, Lorne E. Barnett, another great -great- great grandson of Henry Ruiter, gave freely of his knowledge and his hospitality. He had donated to the Brome County Historical Society important Henry Ruiter papers, originally collected by his father, Edgar C. Barnett. Miss Marion L. Phelps, Curator of the Brome County Historical Society, Knowlton, Quebec, opened her archives of the history of the Eastern Townships and gave me some valuable research clues."

Ashton might have looked at the actual land petition for Henry Ruiter, dated Quebec 9th November 1797 and could read "his Sons, Philip, John and Henry Ruiter and his Sons in Law Joseph DeGroat and Henry Able who have families and who also were in the King's Service last war, such proportions of land as your Excellency's and the Council's benevolence and wisdom may seem meet" that I cannot decipher on the microfilm copy I have since the name is black but can see what looks like a J.

The next document in The Life of Henry Ruiter 1742 - 1819 by Rick J. Ashton, Copyright 1974, by Rick J. Ashton, Appendix A. "Selected Documents on the Life of Henry Ruiter" is: Henry Ruiter to I. W. Clarke, 3 February1802, LCLP 48140. PAC Potton 3th February 1802 Sir I do inclose to you the Certificates of My wife and Children all except My one Daughter wich is gon to the states to see hur frinds and is not as yet come home but Exspect hur soon and wan she comes I will git hur to take the oath but hope it will not prevent hur of giting hur land as she did not Know of this order before she want down I hope you will be so good and Rapresent it to Major green and hope he will Do what he can for Hur I would be sorry if she should louse her land on that account I am sorry to truble you so much with my Bisness but hope if it is in My (sic) to do you as good a turn I am your Moste obedent Humble servent Henry Ruiter

My Daughter name is Margret Ruiter wich has not taken the oath (Endorsed in a clerk's hand on the back of the letter)

Received Certificates of 9 Persons Viz. Gertrude Elizabeth Hannah Henry John Philip Catherine Abraham & Rebecca Mr. Ruiter having states that the names of all his Children are with Colonel Caldwell. It may perhaps appear from thence what is the name of his Wife P.S. Her name is Elizabeth as appears from her Letter of 14 of July) (The clerk had confused Henry Ruiter's wife Katherine with his sister-in-law Elizabeth)

Under Henry Ruiter's descendants Rick Ashton has: Children: i. Gertruid (Gertruide) Ruiter b. 12 April 1764, Hoosic, N.Y. m. Joseph de Groat, before 9 November 1797, prob. Caldwell's Manor, Quebec.

ii. Philip Ruiter b. 1765, Hoosic, N. Y. d. after 3 February 1802

iii. John Ruiter b. 16 June 1768, Hoosic, N.Y.

v. Hannah Ruiter b. 1771-1780, Hoosic or Pittstown, N.Y. d. after 3 February 1802.

vi. Margaret Ruiter b. 1771 - 1780, Hoosic or Pittstown, N. Y. d. after 3 February 1802.

Then he mentioned

Ashton gives no source for saying Joseph was married to Gertuid and I think he guessed. He wrote: "For the first and second generations, it includes a variety of printed and manuscript sources cited throughout the text."

That must mean he got it from the land petition dated 1797, since Joseph not mentioned in other documents in the book. Ashton appears to have decided Gertuid was married to Joseph de Groat because of that land petition where it does not give the name of the daughter. It was the second daughter Elizabeth b. 8 September 1770, Hoosic, NY who married Henry Abel. He probably thought the other one whose husband was mentioned was the oldest daughter. Henry Ruiter had a second young wife and more children. It was his daughter Mary who married John Barnett and Rebecca's who married Jedediah Woods, November 1806. and so mostly those lines in the book. Ashton has nothing further on Gertruid, Philip, Hannah and Margaret from the first family, children of Rebecca. Those in the first family mentioned with a bit more information are John and Elizabeth. Those I have noted on the internet researching Ruiters are descendants of the second family of Henry Ruiter, with wife Katherine/Catherine Friot.

OCCUPATION: MASON

Joseph De Groat, like his son Henry, grandson James and great grandson Harvey was a mason by occupation.

The first record of Joseph De Groat/De Groot in Quebec that has been found, is a record of Joseph DeGroot as having worked for Dr. Philip Ruiter. Both Henry Ruiter and his brother John had sons named Philip.

"Philip Ruiter Papers." Missisquoi Water by the Mill, Volume 13, (Missisquoi Historical Society, 1974), p. 109. Philip Ruiter Dr. to Joseph DeGroot for mason work. To 2 days work building an oven To 1 day and 1/4 plastring his Bed Room To 2 days whitewash June 14, 1799 To 2 days whitewashing and stoping up a fire place To 1 day whitewash; To 1 day whitewash June 1st 1s. 6d.

Joseph De Groat likely worked on both sides of the border. In 1796 he may have been over in Rouse/Rousse Point on the New York side of the border. His daughter Catherine was said to have been born in 1796 at Rouge Point, Canada, near Lake Champlain. On the very northern end of Lake Champlain there is a small town called Rouses Point..

POTTON TOWNSHIP BROME COUNTY BEDFORD DISTRICT QUEBEC 1803

Jno. P. Noyes, "The Canadian Loyalists and Early Settlement in the District of Bedford" Third Report of the Missisquoi County Historical Society, 1908, Page 71 Keep in mind that it was about 13 years after the location of the Loyalists before the first Township was created and granted to the associates. The first settlers in the Townships were not Loyalists but Associates. The Government had forbidden settlement on the border. The terms and conditions of the grants to the United Empire Loyalists differed from those of the Associates. Page 98: Potton created in 1797

B. F. Hubbard, compiler, Forests and Clearings: The History of Stanstead County Province of Quebec with Sketches of More Than Five Hundred Families (Montreal: The Lovell Printing Co. 1894 reprinted Heritage Books 1988). Page 2 "In the meantime there had been a liberal disposition manifested by the Crown and the provincial Governments on behalf of the settlers of the Townships, and large grants of land were made to companies and individuals with the view of encouraging settlement about the beginning of the present century, associations were formed for obtaining grants of wild lands. Their petitions were favorably received." Page 3 The charter for Stanstead was obtained in 1800. The parties comprising the different companies of associates were generally poor. Only one or two in each company were able to sustain the expense of obtaining their charters. These men did as many would do at the present time. They reserved 'the lions share" for themselves, surrendering but one lot of 200 acres to each of the others. Page 6 In 1828, an act was passed by the Provincial Government, by which the existing counties were sub-divided and new ones constituted - Stanstead, Hartley, Barnston, Barford, Bolton and Potton, were taken off from the County of Richelieu, and formed the County of Stanstead.

Joseph De Groat was granted land Potton Township in Brome County, Bedford District, Quebec. in 1803..

List of Lands Granted By The Crown In The Province of Quebec From 1763 to 31st December 1891 (Printed by order of the Legislature Charles Francois Langlois Printer to her Most Excellent Majesty the Queen, 1891) Copy in UBC Library, page 9: "Principle grants." Township Potton Grantees”. Henry Ruiter” Date of Grant 27 July 1803 Extent of grants 27,580.

Henry Ruiter was given a large grant because he had been an officer and he had petitioned with associates. One such associate was his son-in-law Joseph De Groat who was married to his daughter Hannah. Elizabeth Ruiter was Henry's sister-in-law, the widow of his brother John. Up to 1826, all the public land was granted free of charge.

List of Lands Granted By The Crown In The Province of Quebec From 1763 to 31st December 1890 (Printed by order of the Legislature Charles Francois Langlois Printer to her Most Excellent Majesty the Queen, 1891) Copy in UBC Library Page 227 TOWNSHIP OF POTTON (see county of Stanstead) erected 31 Oct. 1797 Reg. A. Grants folio 40

Joseph Desgrotes Numbers of the lots granted Range Acres 9 3 200 27 May 1803 B Grants Pages 164

Henry Ruiter Sr. Numbers of the lots granted Range Acres 8, 9 1 5 3 3 4 1, 8 5 1200 July 27th 1803 B Grants Pages 164

Phillippe Ruiter Numbers of the lots granted Range Acres 10 2 200 July 27th 1803 B Grants Pages 164

John Ruiter Numbers of the lots granted Range Acres 8 4 200 July 27th 1803 B Grants Pages 164

Jacob Ruiter Numbers of the lots granted Range Acres 8 9 200 July 27th 1803 B Grants Pages 164

Elizabeth Ruiter Numbers of the lots granted Range Acres 3, 6 2 7 3 2,4 et 5 11 1594 July 27th 1803 B Grants Pages 164

Henry Ruiter, jr. Numbers of the lots granted Range Acres 4 4 200 July 27th 1803 B Grants Pages 164

Mrs. C. M. Day n»e Catherine Matilda Townsend, History of the Eastern Townships: Province of Quebec, Dominion of Canada, Civil and Descriptive (Belleville: Mika, 1989, originally published in 1869), p. 280ff

"POTTON" "A tract of land lying within the district of Montreal, bounded north by Bolton, east by Lake Memphremagog, south by the Province line, and west by Sutton, after the necessary forms, was erected into a township named Potton; of which a part containing 8,400 acres was granted October 31st, 1797, to Laughland McLean, Captain in the eighty-fourth regiment. (reduced.) On the 7th of July 1803, further grants were made to Henry Able”Henry Ruiter the elder, Philip Ruiter, John Ruiter, Jacob Ruiter, Henry Ruiter the younger”" (Mrs. Day did not list Joseph De Groat but she did not include everyone in her lists). "The first permanent location was made in Potton by Moses Eldridge who came from Peacham, Vt., sometime during the later years of the eighteenth century. He was soon after followed by others, many of whom had suffered either voluntary or compulsory exile, and had been engaged in the British service. Prominent among this class, was Col. Henry Ruiter, a U.E. Loyalist from the province of New York, who had served in the army during the revolution, and at its close, made a temporary stay in the seigniory of Foucault, near the outlet of Lake Champlain. Land being grated to him in Potton, he removed there in 1799, and within the few following years, built both grist and saw-mills in the south-western part, which were the first erected in the township. As early as 1798, settlements were commenced by Jacob Gardland and Jonathan Heath, in the locality now know(n) as Meigs' Corners. Col. Ruiter originally owned the land where Masonville now stands, and sold it to Joseph Chandler and John Lewis. In 1803, a saw-mill was erected here, and during the several successive years, others located in the place. In 1809, a building was erected which long served the triple purpose of meeting, school, and court house; and was for many years the only school house in Potton." Joseph may have settled in Potton Township, but I have not found any mention of him in the local history. Douglas Bartlett wrote that Joseph's son Patrick's obituary "states that he was born in Portau.3/17/1807." The place Patrick was born may have been difficult to read in the family bible or was sounded out and came out as Portau. It may be Port au some other word. but most likely it was Potton. and Joseph De Groat did settle in Potton Township and was living there in 1807. Joseph De Groot was granted Lot 9 Range 3 in Potton Township in 1803, and requested to lease Lot 8 Range 3 in 1810. Therefore, he probably lived in Potton Township at least up until the War of 1812. Harry B. Shufelt and others, Along the Old Roads: Lore and Legend of Brome County (Knowlton Quebec: The Brome County Historical Society, 1965, " Glimpses of the Township of Potton-Mansonville," p. 57L "The lot on which the greater part of the village of Mansonville stands - lot 9, range 5, Township of Potton - was granted on May 27, 1803, to Abraham Ruiter, who, we believe, is correctly identified as the son of Col. Henry Ruiter and his second wife who, according to Taylor's History of Brome County (Vol.1) was low Dutch, and her maiden name Friott. Lot 9 of grant 6 is practically all east of the river and it was acquired by purchase form the Crown, partly by Horace Stewart, on Oct. 31, 1851, and partly by Hiram Manson, on Feb. 27, 1869," Many in the Eastern Townships at the time of the War of 1812 and Joseph may have left Quebec. He likely worked on both sides of the border before that time and had to choose side. He may have gone back to the Albany area. His wife Hannah was thought to have died in Albany, New York in 1813. Joseph and Hannah De Groat (or at least Joseph) was still living in October of 1821. The record of Rachel's marriage has that she and John Thomas married with consent of parents. Perhaps this does not mean that both their parents were living? Since Rachel's brother Henry signed as a witness he was probably living at Caldwell Manor at the time. Joseph and Hannah De Groat may have been living in Caldwell Manor as well. However, they may have moved across the border into either Vermont or New York by that time.

1821 Rachel DEGROAT 21 Oct., John THOMAS of Noyan, laborer & Rachel DEGROAT of same place spins. both of major age marr w/consent of parents Henry (N.?) DeGroat her bro. (The N should be R but it was difficult to decipher - others who looked at the actual records have R according to Diane Granger). (Caldwell Manor and Christie Manor Anglican Records 1815 - 1825, Volume 1, Missisquoi County, Quebec by Pamela Wood Waugh and Sheila Dean Wood, 1989 taken from microfilm # 128.42 in the Quebec Archives). Diane Granger, who was researching Peter De Groat's family for one of his descendants, did not find any "DeGroats in the 1825 or 1830 censuses of the area" and neither did I, although I had trouble deciphering some of the information on the census records I looked at. Joseph De Groat, like his son Henry and grandson James, was a mason and he may have moved around looking for work or have been working across the border in United States in 1825. Joseph De Groat if he had gone back to United States may have returned to Canada and may have been living with his son Henry De Groat in 1825, in Hemmingford Township, Huntingdon County, Quebec. There was an older male in the household as well as a male age 14 not 18 who might have been Joseph's Patrick? The older male could not have been Henry's wife Elizabeth Covey's father, who lived elsewhere and had a wife.

1825 Lower Canada Census, R929.3 Reel C-717. Huntingdon County. The very last page on the reel under "Hemingford Township" Henry Degrot 6 - Total inmates in each household none absent 2 - under six years of age 1 - more than 14 and not 18 years of age 1 - male married 18 not 25 - (Henry was older than 25 1 - male 60 years or older single 1 - female 14 -45 Was Joseph De Groat born in Albany, New York and Did He Die There?

The information that Joseph De Groat was born in 1746 in Albany comes from Harriet (Smith) McPhee's application to join the DAR. I am wondering if that date should be later??

Mary James wrote: "The original "cousin" who joined the DAR under Joseph DeGroat, would be from Jim Arnold's lineage. Jim is a descendent of Harriet Wells Smith Batchelor, sister of Philiar Wells (her ancestor). I have not heard from Jim lately, but it is Jim whom I received my information on the DeGroats. I do not know if my Uncle Irvin was able to join the SAR under Joseph DeGroat, in the 1980s, just on the previous records provided. The only info that Irvin had sent me on the DeGroats was a copy of his DAR application/ On the application it indicates that Joseph DeGroat was a private in Capt. James Waldrom's Co., Albany Co. Militia. This is from the book - New York Men in the Revolution, pages 203, 208 - DAR, Natl. #21484. "This is what I am showing on Joseph: Descendants of Joseph DeGroat 1 Joseph DeGroat b: 1746 in Albany, New York d: January 07, 1830 in Albany, New York Hannah Writer b: 1765 d: 1813."

Matthew Waack's Query to DAR came back with a positive finding for Joseph De Groot Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:11 PM Subject: DAR Patriot Lookup: Reference Code RZFZBBK Dear Matthew Waack, A search of our Patriot Index provided the information found below. DE GROOT, Joseph Birth: NY 1746 Service: NY Rank: Sol Death: NY 7 Jan 1830 Patriot Pensioned: No Widow Pensioned: No Children Pensioned: No Heirs Pensioned:

No Spouse: (1) Hannah Writer Sincerely, Jane Patriot Lookup Volunteer If you are interested in membership in SAR for yourself or DAR for a Requestor: Matthew Waack Patriot First Name: Joseph Patriot Last Name: DeGroat Birth:1746 near Albany, NY Death: 1830 Albany, NY War Time Residence: uncertain - most likely New York Spouse First Name: Hannah Ruiter Comments: my mother's DAR # is 550174.

This information sent in by Harriet McPhee to join the DAR is now questioned. The date for his wife's birth appears to be incorrect and the date for Joseph's birth might be as well? No information where the date came from. If he was born in 1746 perhaps Hannah was a second wife? Joseph may have been the male age 60 or over in the household of his son Henry R. De Groat in 1825. (Lower Canada Census 1825, "Hemingford Township," Huntingdon County, Lower Canada). The older male was not Elizabeth Covey, Henry's wife Elizabeth Covey's father, since James Covey had remarried in 1823 and his wife lived until 1845. However, he may have been in Albany by then and gone back to United States at time of War of 1812.

Joseph's father-in-law said he was in the service of the King. Rick J. Ashton's, The Life of Henry Ruiter 1742 - 1819, (Chicago, 1874). There is reference in this book to a petition by Henry Ruiter in which he refers to his son in law Joseph deGroat, who was "also in the king's service" and he made a copy of this petition. If he was not born in 1746 he would have to have been born before Hannah, in the 1760s or 1750s to be old enough to be of service to the King. Of course he might have been a Patriot on the American side and Henry Ruiter only put in that in order to get him land in the 1790s.

Those who joined the SAR and DAR seemed to have thought that Joseph De Groat was the Joseph De Groat of Marlborough, Ulster County, New York.

WAS JOSEPH DE GROAT A PATRIOT FROM ULSTER COUNTY NEW YORK??

The Joseph De Groat of this family history may have been from Ulster County, New York or more likely he may not. There was a Joseph Degroat and a Jacob Degroat of Marlborough, Ulster County, who are mentioned in C. M. Woolsey's History of the Town of Marlborough Ulster County New York From Its Earliest Discover (Albany: J. B. Lyon Company Printers, 1908 copied by UMI 1982)

I copied from the 1790 New York Ulster County Census: New Marlborough Town De Grout, Jacob 2 males upwards 16; 3 males under 16; 1 female De Grout, Joseph 1 male upwards 16; 3 males under 16; 3 females

Jacob and Joseph De Groat may have been brothers, Jacob the older one?? Or Jacob may have been his father?

C. M. Woolsey, History of the Town of Marlborough Ulster County New York From Its Earliest Discover (Albany: J. B. Lyon Company Printers, 1908 copied by UMI 1982), "THE FIRST BAPTISMS, MARRIAGES. AND DEATHS. Page 366 1774 Dec. 26. Buried two children of Jacob Degroot who were burned to death." Page 367 1777 June 29th. Rev. J. Moffat preached & baptised Jane Franklin a daughter of Stephen Case. Also a child of Absalom Case named Jane & a son of John Wygant named George. Also a son of Thomas Wygant named Barnard & a daughter of Joseph Degroot named Susannah. No. 45. Page 368 1777 Nov 16th Buried John a son of Jacob Degroot

A reason to wonder if Joseph a son of Jacob De Groat is that Jacob is mentioned first as having to work a day in 1788, and then Joseph a day in 1800. This might indicate that Joseph had taken over Jacob's property. Jacob is only mentioned in this history as serving in a regiment during the war and no mention of Joseph. However, this history does not mention that the regiment Jacob belonged to was joined to another one. (See below). Joseph De Groat seemed to belong to the later one. under Captain James Waldron.

C. M. Woolsey, History of the Town of Marlborough Ulster County New York From Its Earliest Discover (Albany: J. B. Lyon Company Printers, 1908 copied by UMI 1982)

Page 161 ff. "First Election after Marlborough Became a Town, 1 April 1788 Page 162

Voted that the next Town Meeting to be held at David Merritºs Pathmaster Lot No. 1 Henry Ten Boss or Henry T. Bush Jacob Degroot had to work 2 days, the least of those in this list of 10

On other lists there was a Benjamin Hallock Lot 9; Solomon Fowler Lot 10; Stephen Fowler Lot 24. John Youngs Lot 3. Thomas Tomkins under Lot 4, Anning Smith had to work 3 says. Lewis DuBois had to work 12 days under Ebenezer Foote Lot No. 3, John Wood 3 days under Foote. Timothy Wood was under Benjamin Townsend No. 5. William Martin 2 days under Solomon Flower Lot 10. Under John Scott No. 11 were Philip Airs and John Airs and James Petet. Erborn Hoyt No. 16 had John Griffen under him 3 days. (There was a Catherine De Groat born 1770 married a Rev. William Hallock of Peekskill, New York who went to live in Elizabethtown (Brockville, Ontario) where Staats De Groat and sons Peter (who married Phebe Griffin d/o Loyalist John Griffin) and Cornelius lived but descendants of Catherine have not found Rev. Hallocks ancestors and do not know if he was from the Quaker Hallocks of Marlborough. The black Joseph De Groat of Dereham Township's mother was a Fowler. (There were free blacks in Tappan Patent first who may have been in Marlborough.).

A reason to believe that this Joseph De Groat of Marlborough was not the one who went to Quebec is that he still seemed to be living in Marlborough in 1800, when that Joseph was living in Quebec and was mentioned at that time on land petitions. However, Matt Waack did not seem to find a Joseph on a search of the New York 1800 census.

C. M. Woolsey, History of the Town of Marlborough Ulster County New York From Its Earliest Discovery Page 168 "List of Overseers of the Highways for the year 1800, together with the names of the men on each road district and the number of Days each one is assessed. No. 6 Continued Joseph Degroat Days 1

There are no Degroats on the list for 1818.

The following information from Joseph's daughter Catherine's descendant Joseph DeGroat B. in 1746 near Albany, N.Y. married Hannah Writer in 1786. Died in 1830 near Albany. His wife Hannah Writer born 1765 died in 1814. Their third child, Catherine born in 1796

1790 Census New York Joseph DeGroat was living in Marlborotown, Ulster Co. One Male over 16 Ç himself Three Male under 16 Three Females.

Patsy wrote: In May, 1969 Mother (Luella) wrote as follows: "Since December I have made several attempts to get additional proofs and information on the DeGroat (DeGroot) line. It was not possible to get any statements proven. I obtained copies of the D.A.R. papers of cousin Harriet Nolan (Eshelman) McPhee. She joined when a new chapter was formed in Ontario, Calif. in 1925. Her ancestral entry was Joseph DeGroat. But her papers gave no real proofs that he was "A soldier in Captain James Waldron's Co. (militia), Albany, N. Y." I wrote to General Service Adm. and they could find no record of his service or of his having received land grants, bounties or pension. Harriet's papers had stated these as facts. She had also stated that there was "A family tradition that Joseph DeGroat was Aide to General Washington." She wrote, "Requirements to enter D.A.R. have tightened considerably since 1925 apparently, so we are lucky to have the Botsford line well proven."

Mother's D.A.R. national number is 526353 Luella Mae Hart Snider. I have never joined - just never had the inclination, unfortunately.

In looking further Irvin's SAR number was l36906. In his papers, it refers to New York Men in the Revolution, pages 203, 208 and then DAR No. 214784. Joseph DeGroat was a private, Capt. James Waldron's Co. Albany Co. Militia.

Matthew Waack wrote: "My Uncle did a little research on Joseph DeGroat or DeGroot. He was able to obtain a SAR on this lineage through his research. On the application indicates that Joseph DeGroat was a private in Capt. James Waldrom's Co., Albany Co. Militia. This is from the book - New York Men in the Revolution, pages 203, 208 - DAR, Natl. #21484.

Mary James wrote: "The original "cousin" who joined the DAR under Joseph DeGroat, would be from Jim Arnold's lineage. Jim is a descendent of Harriet Wells Smith Batchelor, sister of Philiar Wells. I have not heard from Jim lately, but it is Jim whom I received my information on the DeGroats. I do not know if my Uncle Irvin was able to join the SAR under Joseph DeGroat, in the 1980s, just on the previous records provided. On the application it indicates that Joseph DeGroat was a private in Capt. James Waldrom's Co., Albany Co. Militia. This is from the book - New York Men in the Revolution, pages 203, 208 - DAR, Natl. #21484." "This is what I am showing on Joseph: Descendants of Joseph DeGroat 1 Joseph DeGroat b: 1746 in Albany, New York d: January 07, 1830 in Albany, New York Hannah Writer b: 1765 d: 1813.

Matthew Waack's Query to DAR came back with a positive finding for Joseph De Groot Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:11 PM Subject: DAR Patriot Lookup: Reference Code RZFZBBK Dear Matthew Waack, A search of our Patriot Index provided the information found below.

DE GROOT, Joseph Birth: NY 1746 Service: NY Rank: Sol Death: NY 7 Jan 1830 Patriot Pensioned: No Widow Pensioned: No Children Pensioned: No Heirs Pensioned: No Spouse: (1) Hannah Writer Sincerely, Jane Patriot Lookup Volunteer

If you are interested in membership in SAR for yourself or DAR for a Requestor: Matthew Waack Patriot First Name: Joseph Patriot Last Name: DeGroat Birth: 1746 near Albany, NY Death: 1830 Albany, NY War Time Residence: uncertain - most likely New York Spouse First Name: Hannah Ruiter Comments: my mother's DAR # is 550174.

Berthold Fernow, New York In the Revolution, Volume I (Albany: Weed, Parsons and Company, 1887, p. 357. "Roster of the State Troops" Name and Rank Regiment Company

Degroat, Joseph, private Pawling De Witt Degrote, Joseph, sergeant hathorn Case

Joseph De Groat was under Col. Albert Pawling and Levi DeWitt. Joseph Degrote, sergeant under Hathorn and Case. I could not find these two men's names together, but Case appears to have been in a company from East Orange or Cornwall District, and Hathorn Florida Warwick Regiment farther south west of the Hudson. Vona Smith, who holds seminars on United Empire Loyalists and is researching the De Witts, told me that De Witts and Pawlings lived in Ulster County.

I checked about James Waldron's Company.

Berthold Fernow, New York In the Revolution, Volume I (Albany: Weed, Parsons and Company, 1887, p. 270 ELEVENTH REGIMENT - (Coxsackie and Groote Imbocht) Colonel: Anthony Van-Bergen/ Lt. Colonel Cornelius Du Bois. 1st Major: Ignatius Van Orden. (these were re-appointed June 20, 1778

It then gives 1st Company, 2d Company, Changes in Regiments

Then it has Anth'y Abeel, 1st Lieut. Christ'n Meyer, 2d Lieut. Fred'k Meyer, Ensign. John Person, 2d Lieut., Dubois' Co., vice Dubois, resigned. Oct. 21, 1779

James Waldron, Captain Coenradt F. Ten Eyck, 1st Lieut. Jacobus Moll, 2d. Lieut. Andrew Sitzer, Ensign

It has beside those names Of a Company now assigned to the 11th Reg't, formerly part of the5th.

James Bogardus, Ensign, Dubois Co. Anthony Abeel, Captain. Christ'r Meyer, 1st Lieut. (it has n above on his name) Abr'm Overbagh, 2d. Lieut. Jeremiah Overbagh, Ensign.

That Joseph De Groat who was a Patriot was under Captain James Waldron seems to point to him being from Marlborough, Ulster County, New York. There is mention of De Groats in its history and the Joseph was under

C. M. Woolsey, History of the Town of Marlborough Ulster County New York From Its Earliest Discover (Albany: J. B. Lyon Company Printers, 1908 copied by UMI 1982) Page 95 "All who have signed it were understood to be open and fearless friends of the American cause, whose efforts and influence the patriotic leaders could depend upon”"

Page 96 "The signers of the Pledge or Articles of Association are as follows: On this list Lewis Dubois Stephen Case Jacob De Groot

Pages 107 Ç 109, "Lewis DuBois and William Martin Lewis DuBoise was commissioned as Colonel "Under this call Ulster county furnished one company, of which William Martin of New Marlborough was captain.

John Park” Jacob Degroot, Jonathan Woolsey, John Case, and Joseph Rhodes are said to have "served in the fifth regiment of the line, under Lewis DuBois, and are all supposed to have been from New Marlborough,

Page 109 Ç110 "DuBoisº Regiment, the fifth of the line. Its field and staff has Albert Pawling, Aid-Major.

The regiment was stationed in the spring of 1777 at Fort Clinton, Montgomery and Constitution in the Highlands, on garrison duty, and was there on the 6th of October, when the forts were captured by the British forces. Many were taken prisoners and about 100 privates were killed, captured or missing. DuBois with the balance of his men marched with Gov. Clinton to Kingston at the time it was burned; in the winter following the regiment was in camp at Fishkill, and were in a very deplorable condition. In July 1779 the regiment was at White Plains; in 1779 it was with Gen. James Clinton in the Sullivan campaign against the Indians, and was stationed at Fort Stanwix in the Mohawk valley- afterward divided up with other regiments.

Page 122 "Lewis DuBoisº Court Martial. Sitting under Col. DuBios President was a Dewitt

The Joseph De Groat who was with Pawling and De Witt and then under Captain James Waldron may have been the son or brother of Jacob who served under Lewis DuBois.

Page 144 There were few Loyalists in Marlborough. "They became outlaws like Claudius Smith, who was hung at Goshen, Fluwelling and others; some enlisted men as we have seen, for the enemy; some enlisted themselves All such were summarily dealt with when caught. Most all of this class settled in Canada after the war."

There were fifty heads of families in Newburgh precinct either in the English army or in prison. But there was reason for their loyalty to the King. Governor Colden had been colonial governor; he resided but a few miles away.

LOYALISTS CONNECTIONS WITH DE GROATS

1. Joseph married daughter of Loyalist Henry Ruiter.

2. David DE GROAT

David DE GROAT/DEGROTE/DEGROOTE born c. 1756 New York New York died Richmond County New York

(Joseph De Groat's son Henry's son Peter went to the Bay of Quinte area from Quebec. That is where the Ruttans were granted land. There was a Staes De Groat who married a Catherine Buskirk in 1738 New York Marriages). Perhaps David De Groat a member of the Staten Island De Groat/ De Groot family, descendants of Peter De Groot of Leiden and Jacob De Groot of New Netherland?? (David said to be a relative of John Oakley on LDS records. There is a John Oakley mentioned in McHenry County cemetery transcriptions.

New Jersey Volunteers Ruttan's Coy. A Muster Roll of Capt. RUTTANºs Company of the 4th Battallion of Jersey Vollontears Commanded by Lieut. Coll. VAN BUSKERK-

Staten Island Janaury 6th 1778 Captain Peter RUTTAN Lieutenant James SERVENIER Ensign Colin MACVAIN Sgt William VAN ORDER Dead 18 Decr. 1777 Sgt Albert ACKERMAN do 16 do Sgt James FOX Sick in General Hospital Sgt Mathew KNOUGHT Sgt William BOND Cpl Peter RAMSEY Cpl Rinard BRICKMAN Sick in General Hospital Cpl Peter RIDNER Sick in Quarters Drummer William COBURN Sick in G H Abraham ACKERMAN Nicholas COUNRATE George HEMEON Philip HANSELPACKER On Command William RAMSEY William FOX On Command James STURSE Christopher NIX Sick G H Dead 5 Jany. 1778 Counrate WANNAMAKER George SMITH Peter SMITH George BRUCE Derick WANNAMAKER Sick in Qtrs. Nicholas SITHS George FOX Henry SHULTS Jacob HEMEON Nautis STAKER Sick in G H John FRYSINER do Baltis SHUMAKER do Nicholas HEMEON do Counrate FRYSINER do Adam HEMEON do Able RIDNER do Frederick BRUSE do John BRUSE do John HOPPER do Counrate HANSELPACKER On Command David DEGROAT Recruiting Benjamin BUSH Dead 25 Decr. 1777 George BLAKNEY Deserted 27 April 1777 Lewis FISHER Taken Prisoner 29 Decr. 1776 William WINTER do do William STURR do do Henry WANNAMAKER do do Peter WANNAMAKER do do John WANNAMAKER do do Nicholas WANNAMAKER do do Henry LAUBACK do do Samuel DEMOREST do do Henry MONDWELL do do Jacob COLE do do Peter FISHER do do Jacob MORIS do do Isaac MONTONYE do do David BAYARD do do Peter SLITHYE do 22 Augt. 1777

National Archives of Canada, RG 8, "C" Series, Volume 1858, pages 12-13. The On-Line Institute for Advanced Loyalist Studies This page created and maintained by Nan Cole and Todd Braisted Updated 2/01/01

Note that David's name below was variously spelled De Groat, De Groot and De Grote. My ancestors Henry and James spelled their surname either De Grote or De Groat

David De Groat, also spelled De Grote, and De Groot was in Colonel Abraham Van Buskirk's Company

"Loyalist Muster Roll America Revolutionary War Includes Men from Bergen County New Jersey transcribed by Donna Ristenbatt from the New Jersey State Archives, Trenton, New Jersey. Loyalist Muster Rolls Reel # 232 Vol. 4, pg 1259. Muster Roll of Captain Peter Ruttan's Company in the 4th Battalion of the New Jersey Volunteers commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Abraham Buskirk Esq. Private David Degroat Dec. 7, 1776 On Command Recruiting Private Samuel Demerist Dec. 7 1777 Taken Prisoner 29 Dec. 1776 May 1778 Private David Degroot July 1778 Private David Degrot August or Sept 1778 Private David Degrote October 1778 Private David Degroot 30 Dec. 1778 Private David Degrote Sick Jan 1779 Private David Degrote Prisoner with Rebels

March 1779 Buskirk at Hobuck (Hoboken New Jersey Private David Degrote July 7 1779 David Degrote Powles Hook August 1779 Private David Degroot Oct 29 1779 David Degroot Dec. 1779 David Degroat March 19 1780 David Degroot May 1780 David Degrote Staten Island April 29 1781 Private David Degrote Prisoner with ye Rebels

David De Groat fought under Abraham Van Buskirk and Peter Ruttan. Abraham Van Buskirk was a refugee to Nova Scotia and was granted land in New Brunswick. Peter Ruttan was granted land on the Bay of Quinte area, in Adolphustown Township. The father or grandfather of Henry and Peter De Groat may have gone to Nova Scotia as a refugee, although I could not find any De Groat or De Groot on the Ship Lists. They could have been on one such as the Martha thatºs list was lost.

3. John DE GROAT John De Groat lived with his wifeºs niece in 1851 according to the Williamsburgh Township, Dundas County census. I have not found the names of any of his children. He may have had daughters who married or children who died young. He came into Province of Upper Canada in 1790 with children. He was living in Charlottenburgh Township then.

John DeGROAT born c. 1764 came to Canada from Minisinks New York 1790 married Mary McCaffrey (c. 1764 - ) d/o John McCaffrey (United Empire Loyalist died 23 January 1852 - 87 y buried Iroquois Cemetery

Minisinks, where John De Groat said he came from on his land petition was in what is now Orange County but had been Ulster Orange County. A history of Orange County on the internet mentions that that area was settled by Huguenots and Irish and German Palatines were granted land there. John De Groat might have been in that area in 1790 after he married because Mary McCaffrey whose father came from Ireland had relations there.

John De Groat and his wife Mary are connected with the German families of the Mohawk Valley. Maryºs sister married Frederick Bouck. In 1851. Frederick Bouck and other Boucks are listed under "Albany County: Duanesburg and Schoharie" under "Confiscations Albany, Charlotte and Tryon Counties, New York." (The Loyalists of the Eastern Townships of Quebec , 1984, p. 200).

Mary and her husband lived with Peter Brouse and his wife Mary (Bouck) Brouse in Williamsburgh Township, in Dundas County. The Brouses intermarried with Dorens. Dorens were from Fishkill, Dutchess County. A Joseph De Groat married an Elizabeth Doran in 1769.

JOHN DE GROAT MARRIED A LOYALIST BUT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN ONE? Florence English writing for The Loyalist Gazeette seemed to think this John De Groat a Loyalist although one wonders if the phrase "soldier of the Revolution USA" could mean he was on the other side?

Iroquois Cemetery Transcriptions MS 451 Reel 2 John DE GROAT Soldier of the Revolution USA 12 Jan 1852 87 y.

Florence English, "Iroquois Cemetery," The Loyalist Gazette, Volume XXXVIII, No. 1, Spring, 2000, p. 30. Gravestone Iroquois Cemetery simple marble slab "John De Groat, a soldier of the Revolution. Died June 23, 1852 age 87 years."

Mary's father John McCaffrey had been born in Ireland in 1722. He came from New York City or Tryon County. He had been a farmer in New York and had served in the Kings Royal Regiment of New York, as a Private from 15 August 1777 until 1782. McCaffrey came to Canada with no family. He was settled in the first Settlement which was Cornwall. John McCaffrey was listed as a United Empire Loyalist, who had been in the Kings Royal Rangers of New York and had been settled in the Eastern District.

4. States (Staes/Statesr) De Grote (DeGroat/Grout) born 1760s or earlier?

States DeGrote lived in Elizabethtown, Johnstown District. This was where the Smythes were granted land. The Smythes, who were Irish, were from Albany, New York. However, he might the one in 1790 living in Westchester County, New York 1790 CENSUS Heads of Families, Index, Courtlandt Town De Groat, Staats 1 male upwards 16; 3 males under 16; 4 females

In a petition dated October 23, 1801 at Elizabethtown States DeGroot petitioned "His Excellency Peter Hunter Esquire, Lieutenant Governor of Province of Upper Canada" for a Lease. The source given for this is "DeGroot, Stater: Elizabethtown, 1801, leases and licences of occupation." On the copy of Mr. DeGroot's petition the letter "s" in "lease" looks like an "r" the same as in the name Stater It was assumed his name was Stater but it was more likely States similar to Staes a common DeGroot name.

Census 1796 - 1848 Elizabethtown Ontario Leeds County (OGS Leeds & Grenville Branch ISBN 0-920300-95-2)

Census Elizabethtown 1801 Head of House Adult Child Male Female Male Female

1. DeGrote, States 1 2. DeGrote, Merrium 1 3. Peter 1 4. DeGrote, Mary 1 5. DeGrote, Cornelius 1 6. Degrote, Hetty 1 7. DeGrote, Rebeccah 1

Peter and Cornelius though adults might have been children of States DeGrote or they could have been brothers? Peter was likely the Peter DeGrote who was married to Phoebe Griffin who appears under Joseph Griffin as a female child. His daughters were likely Mary, Hetty and Rebeccah who were included under female children. Peter and Cornelius were likely the DeGrootes on the Clarke and Darlington census 1812. They are not on Elizabethtown one after 1810.

1802 Census Elizabethtown States 1 adult Merium 1 adult Cornelius 1 adult Peter 1 adult Mahitable 1 female child Rebekah 1 female child

1804 No. 73 Degrote Cornelius Degrote, Phoebe Degrote, Gilbert

No. 75. Staats DeGrote Mariam Esther Rebecca

No. 77. Peter DeGrote Phoebe DeGrote

1808 DeGroat States DeGroote Peter two adults male and female no children

1810 No. 284 DeGrote States 1 female adult; 1 male child; 1 female child Peter has either left or lives with States DeGrote

By 1812 States is the only DeGrote on the Elizabethtown census 2 male adults and 2 female adults

1819 States DeGrote 4 male adults 2 female adults no children

1821 States DeGroat 1 male adult; 1 female adult; 3 male children; 2 female children Total 7 By 1837 States DeGroat does not appear on the census.

William Reid, The Loyalists in Ontario. Peter DeGrote,married Phoebe Griffin. Phoebe was the daughter of the United Empire Loyalist Joseph Griffin of Elizabethtown Township, Leeds County.

Peter (De Groate) born in the 1780s married c. 1804 Phoebe GRIFFIN d/o Joseph GRIFFIN (UEL)

On the 1808 census for Elizabethtown Peter DeGrote has no children. They lived Elizabethtown (Brockville at least until 1812).

Peter and Phoebe Griffin of Elizabethtown 1809 when Phoebe petitioned for land and also in 1812 when the land was granted

Peter DE GROTE (De GROAT) and Phoebe Griffin Children Orphy baptized 1809 (for certain a daughter since parents given for baptism)

Recorded on Parish Registers of Kingston Upper Canada 1785-1811 "DeGroot, Orphy Daughter of Peter De Groot, Phobe DeGroot Sponsors: Joseph Wooly, Orphy Watson."

They were likely living at Elizabethtown when the above baptism took place as it states on the land petition, because the Kingston Gazette had records of marriages as far away as Elizabethtown at that time. This newspaper however, also had information on those in Belleville and they might have moved there.

(There was a Joseph Griffin married Jane Cornell 16 April 1772 Harrison Westchester New York but might be a bit early???)

Joseph GRIFFIN

Norman K. Crowder, Early Ontario Settlers A Source Book "The Return of Disbanded Troops and Loyalist settled in Township No. 8 Elizabethtown Mustered 12 October 1784 Provisionary Lists"

B834 Joseph Griffin Men 1 Women 1 2 under 10 Total 4 rations per day 3 Family on his land Munstered by Jn Barnes Accountant in the Quarter master General Department

Old Loyalist List Griffin Joseph E. District was soldier in Jessup's is resident in Montreal R. J. DG

Elizabethtown Census 1801 419 Griffin Joseph 1 adult 420. Unis 1 female adult 421. Hannah Female child 422. Phebe 1 female child 423. Rhoda 1 female child 424. Ortha 1 female child 425. Joseph 1 male child 426. Jno. 1 male child 427. Abel 1 male child

Joseph DE GROAT and Hannah RUITER Children D1 Peter Ezera born 21 November 1793 Lower Canada married 8 May 1828 St. Thomas Church Belleville Upper Canada Harriet Rebecca VANNORNAM (3 July 1807 -14 March 1890) d/o John and Rebecca VAN ARNAM /VAN NORMAN/VANORMAN died 13 June 1878 North Dorchester Township Middlesex County Ontario buried Avon United Cemetery North Dorchester Ontario

D2 Henry R. (Ruiter) born 31 October 1794 Lower Canada married 21 January 1822 Caldwell Manor Noyan Missisquoi County Bedford District Lower Canada Elizabeth COVEY (c. 1803 - 1 March 1832) d/o James and Elizabeth COVEY married 25 March 1836 Bayham Township Elgin County Upper Canada Margaret I. BARKER/BAKER (c. 1818 - 4 January 1896) died 20 April 1883 Arcadia Township Lapeer County Michigan buried Lum Cemetery Lapeer County Michigan

D3 Catherine DE GROAT born 15 September1796 Rouses Point New York or near Lake Champlain Lower Canada) married 18 October 1825/1826 Jonathon WELLS (20 June 1804 Halifax Vt Ç 19 January 1992 Dunham Illinois) s/o Joel WELLS and Chloe RAISON died 6 March 1889 Dunham Township McHenry County Illinois buried Allen Cemetery - South Dunham Township Cemetery McHenry County Illinois

D4 Rachel born c. 1800 Lower Canada married 21 October 1821 Noyan Lower Canada John THOMAS married c. 1835 Thomas Wheeler GRAY (c. 1795 - )

D5 John born unmarried

D6 Patrick born 17 March 1807 Portau (Potton? Township) Lower Canada married 16 November 1834 Covington St. Lawrence County New York Lucy SMITH (4 July 1817 Vt..- 27 May 1852) (d/o or granddaughter of Jacob SMITH) died 25 January 1897 Lamoni Iowa at the home of his daughter

Sources from my Footnotes: The numbers have been lost in putting it into e-mail

The information that Joseph De Groat was born in 1746 in Albany comes from Harriet (Smith) McPhee's application to join the DAR. DAR, Natl. #21484 This is from the book - New York Men in the Revolution, pages 203, 208. 1 Joseph DeGroat b: 1746 in Albany, New York d: January 07, 1830 in Albany, New York Hannah Writer b: 1765 d: 1813. Matthew Waack's Query to DAR came back with a positive finding for Joseph De Groot Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:11 PM Subject: DAR Patriot Lookup: Reference Code RZFZBBK Dear Matthew Waack, A search of our Patriot Index provided the information found below. DE GROOT, Joseph Birth: NY 1746 Service: NY Rank: Sol Death: NY 7 Jan 1830 Patriot Pensioned: No Widow Pensioned: No Children Pensioned: No Heirs Pensioned: No Spouse: (1) Hannah Writer Sincerely, Jane Patriot Lookup Volunteer If you are interested in membership in SAR for yourself or DAR for a Requestor: Matthew Waack Patriot First Name: Joseph Patriot Last Name: DeGroat Birth: 1746 near Albany, NY Death: 1830 Albany, NYWar Time Residence: uncertain - most likely New York Spouse First Name: Hannah Ruiter Comments: my mother's DAR # is 550174. This information sent in by Harriet McPhee to join the DAR is now questioned. The date for his wife's birth appears to be incorrect and the date for Joseph's birth might be as well? No information where the date came from. If he was born in 1746 perhaps Hannah was a second wife? Perhaps he was born in the 1760s rather than 1746? Joseph may have been the male age 60 or over in the household of his son Henry R. De Groat in 1825. (Lower Canada Census 1825, "Hemingford Township," Huntingdon County, Lower Canada). The older male was not Elizabeth Covey, Henry's wife Elizabeth Covey's father, since James Covey had remarried in 1823 and his wife lived until 1845. However, he may have been in Albany by then and gone back to United States at time of War of 1812. The first child we have found information about, Peter, was born in the fall of 1793. Lower Canada Land Records De Groat Joseph might be checked to see if his name is on one for 1792 as an associate of Henry. Ruiter. Descendants of Joseph's daughter Catherine have her mother's name as "Hannah Writer." Harriet (Smith) McPhee's application to join the DAR. DAR, Natl. #21484 Someone putting in the transcriptions of the inscriptions on the stones in the South Dunham Cemetery, McHenry County, Illinois wrote: "Wells, Catherine w/o Jonathan (d/o Joseph & Hannah Writer DeGroat)." Her parents names are not likely on the gravestone but the person knew about her parents since descendants of Catherine had joined the SAR and DAR using Harriet's information. It was realized Writer was Ruiter also written at times Rider. Joseph's son Henry R. is like Henry Ruiter De Groat. Henry's son Henry Clinton De Groat named a son Aaron Riter De Groat. Elaine Obenchain and McHenry County Illinois Genealogical Society, compilers, McHENRY COUNTY ILLINOIS CEMETERIES, VOLUME Im (McHenry County Illinois Genealogical Society, 1011 North Green Street, McHenry, Illinois 60060, 1990 Page. 127 DUNHAM TOWNSHIP 4. South Dunham Cemetery Lower Canada Land Papers Ruel, Ignace - Ruiter Henry & others RG 1 L 3 Vol. 171. Joseph De Groat, son-in-law. www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/sdrcbr.htm Baptisms at the Schaghticoke Dutch Reformed Church, 1752-1866. Surnames beginning with "R" Ruiter, Hendrick and Rebecca Daat; Annatie; 4 Mar 1774; none recorded; Jacob Best and Catrina Daat (sponsors). Information from Mary James and Matt Waack from Hattie (Smith) McPhee's application to join the DAR. The date of his death and place of death has no documented proof and may be incorrect. www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/sdrcbr.htm Baptisms at the Schaghticoke Dutch Reformed Church, 1752-1866. Surnames beginning with "R" Ruiter, Hendrick and Rebecca Daat; Annatie; 4 Mar 1774; none recorded; Jacob Best and Catrina Daat. The researcher Gordon Remington checked out this baptism on microfilm at the Family History Library, Salt Lake City. The Loyalists of the Eastern Townships of Quebec 1783 - 1983-84 (Sir John Johnson Centennial Branch United Empire Loyalists' Association 1984 reprinted Bellville: Mika, 1992), 119. She is among the six children along with Rebecca shipped to St. Johns, Quebec. Alexander Fraser, Second Report of the Bureau of Archives, Part III, 1904, p. 941, No. 792 Case of Captain Henry Ruiter, late of New York. Lived in Pittstown when the trouble broke out -- Had 260 acres in Pits Town. Produces Deed from Wm. Smyth to clamt of 303 acres in Pits Town is Consn. 272£ York, dated 30 June 1774. Had a Lease in Hsick Lived there before went to Pits Town. It belonged to Danl. Bratt. Was to have had a lease of 40 years. Alexander Fraser, Second Report of the Bureau of Archives, Part III, 1904, p. 941, No. 792 Case of Captain Henry Ruiter, late of New York. Lived in Pittstown when the trouble broke out -- Was obliged to leave Home & had been skulking in the woods till he joined Gen. Burgoyne. Joined him in Aug. 1777. Carried in several men. Was first under Col. Foster, then McKoy & afterwards under Major Rogers. (Captain). B. F. Hubbard, compiler, Forests and Clearings: The History of Stanstead County Province of Quebec With Sketches of More Than five Hundred Families (Montreal: Lovell Printing Co., 1874, reprinted Heritage Books Inc. Bowie, Maryland), p. 205. "Col. Henry Ruiter, had served in the British Army during the French War. Being a firm loyalist, he left his country at the time of the American Revolution, and came to Canada, where he was afterwards employed as an officer in the British Service. Henry Z. Jones Jr., The Palatine Families New York: A Study of the German Immgrants Who Arrived in Colonial New York in 1710 (Jones: Universal City California, 1985), Volume I, p. 74. See Rev. W. Bowman Tucker, The Camden Colony or the Seed of the Righteous: The Story of the United Empire Loyalists with Genealogical Tables (Montreal: John Lovell & Son, Ltd., 1908). "Eight Generation of Sixby Family Living in St.- Armand." "Duel Fought on Sixby Farm." "The following story was found among old family paper by Mr. & Mrs. Wade. The author signed it (A.E. F. Sept. 1904)." Here and There in Missisquoi (Missisquoi Historical Society, Volume 9, 1967), pp. 70 - 71. See Fraser's, Skulking for the King: A Loyalist Plot (Erin Ontario: The Boston Mills Press, 1985), about Scottish Highlanders who were Loyalists. The Loyalists of the Eastern Townships of Quebec 1783 - 1983-84 (Sir John Johnson Centennial Branch United Empire Loyalists' Association 1984 reprinted Bellville: Mika, 1992), Page 118. Henry Ruiter, founder of Potton Township - simple farmer in Hoosick County New York. Wife Rebecca DOOTH - 4 children Gertrudid, Philip, Johannes, Elizabeth.. Henry joined a secret Royalist military unit and he served as a Captain. Henry and son John joined Burgoyne. At the time of General Burgoyne's defeat Henry and his son John escaped to Canada. In 1780 Rebecca and now with six children escaped to Canada. Shipped to St. Johns, Quebec. Alexander Fraser, Second Report of the Bureau of Archives, Part III, 1904, p. 941. No. 792 Case of Captain Henry Ruiter, late of New York. In Fall of '82 he was at St. Johns. He sent Claim by Major Leake, gave it him in fall of '82.

The Loyalists of the Eastern Townships of Quebec 1783 - 1983-84 (Sir John Johnson Centennial Branch United Empire Loyalists' Association 1984 reprinted Bellville: Mika, 1992), p. 119. Rich J. Ashton, The Life of Henry Ruiter 1742 - 1819 (Chicago: Rick J. Ashton, 1974). It is 62 pages. 929.2 Ruiter A. There is a copy of this book in the Ontario Genealogical Library at the North York Library, Toronto and in the Family History Library at Salt Lake City. National Archives Ottawa. G. Remington copied this petition from a film at the LDS Library and gave me a copy courtesy of his client Laura Willes. John De groat Petition for Land Dated 20th Sept. 1790 Jas. Anderson Clk. Page 20 41 a: Ontario Archives Upper Canada Land Petitions Bundle Miscellaneous, 1788-1795 DA-DEY RG1, L3, Volume 171 Reel 79 Cabinet 1, p. 41. (Not easy to decipher or find on the reel at the Ontario,Archives). "The petition of Phebe Degrot wife of Peter Degrot of the Township of Elizabethtown." Copy from National Archives Canada Upper Canada Land Petitions RG 1L3 D9/14 Volume 153, Reel C-1744, copied 18-7-91. Upper Canada Land Petitions (RG 1 L3) DeGroot Stater: Elizabethtown, 1801, leases and licences of occupation/15, Volume 555, reel C-2882. Copy made for me National Archives, 18-7-91. He is on Census 1796 - 1848 Elizabethtown Ontario Leeds County (OGS Leeds & Grenville Branch ISBN 0-920300-95-2) Census Elizabethtown 1801 as DeGrote, States; DeGrote, Merrium son adult. Peter. Lower Canada Land Papers Ruel, Ignace - Ruiter Henry & others RG 1 L 3 Vol. 171. I have a copy of Henry Ruiter's Land petition from Gordon Remington, paid researcher for Laura Willes, courtesy of her. Information from Matthew Waack. List of Lands Granted By The Crown In The Province of Quebec From 1763 to 31st December 1890 (Printed by order of the Legislature Charles Francois Langlois Printer to her Most Excellent Majesty the Queen, 1891) Copy in UBC Library, Page 227. Hannah McPhee's application to join the DAR. See above. Berthold Fernow, New York In the Revolution (New York State Archives Albany: Weed, Parsons and Company Printers), 1887. Vol. I., p. 357. Berthold Fernow, Documents Relating to the Colonial History of the State of New York: New York In the Revolution, 1887. Vol. XV, pp. 256, 272, 380. Gravestone Iroquois Cemetery died age 87 in 1852. John De groat Petition for Land Dated 20th Sept. 1790 Jas. Anderson Clk. Page 20 41 a: Ontario Archives Upper Canada Land Petitions Bundle Miscellaneous, 1788-1795 DA-DEY RG1, L3, Volume 171 Reel 79 Cabinet 1, p. 41. 1851 Census Williamsburg Township, Dundas Co. Ontario, Part 2, Page 1 in household of Peter Brouse: John Degroat born St. (State of) N Y age 87. The Petition of Mary De Groate, wife of John De Groate and daughter of John McCaffrey of Charlottenburg Loyalist. That your Petitioner is the daughter of a Loyalist - who joined the Royal Standard in America prior to the year 1783... Mark x Mary De Groate February 19 1799. (Upper Canada Land petitions D Bundle 1777-1808, C - 1743, D Bundle 3 vol. 150 Vol 12, D Bundle 8 Vo. 152 vo. 32b. 1793 - 1798 Vol 1, 13 Vo. 151, 71. 1851 Census Williamsburg Township, Dundas Co. Ontario, Part 2, Page 1 in household of Peter Brouse: Mary Degroat born St. NY age 87. Iroquois Cemetery Transcriptions, (Microfilm MS 451 Reel 2, Cloverdale Library). 1851 Census Williamsburgh Township, Dundas County, Pt. 1, p. 1 household of Peter Brouse. John DeGroat age 87. He died that year and was buried in Iroquois Cemetery. Ernest A. Cruikshank, The Kings Royal Regiment New York (Ontario Historical Society,1931, 1984). Surname McCaffrey John. I copied this information from a book at the B.C.G.S. Open House, quickly. I wrote from Tryon City NY. Tryon was a county in New York where Stone Arabia was. He might however, have come from Tyrone County Ireland, or could have come from both. The Kings Royal Regiment New York. I copied Coy. Might be a name or could stand for company or corps? The Kings Royal Regiment New York. J. Pringle, Lunenburgh Or The Old Eastern District, (Cornwall, 1890, Mika, 1972), "Appendix C." Upper Canada Land Petitions (RG 1 L3) DeGroot Stater: Elizabethtown, 1801, leases and licences of occupation/15, Volume 555, reel C-2882. A.H. Young, Parish Registers of Kingston Upper Canada 1785-1811, (Kingston Historical Society, 1921). "Historic Hastings," (Families, Vol. 19, No. 4, 1980). Joan Hickey, Peter's great great granddaughter, sent me a chart that has he was born in 1795 and she has this information from "Family Bible." The census records indicate he was born earlier than this. Gravestone Avon Cemetery Booklet gives death date as 11 Jun 1878 and age as 84 yrs 6 mos 11 days. This means he had not had his birthday in 1878 and he was therefore born in 1793. The days are a bit out going by date of birth from 1851/52 Dorchester census, as November 21. I am assuming he was born Lower Canada but census record also has he was born Canada West. Joan Hickey. Bible record. Don Kellaway of Belleville says that Peter and Harriet were married at St. Thomas Church, Belleville, on 8 May 1828 with witnesses Manuel Northrop and Zenas Dafoe. St. Thomas Church records are available from the National Archives. (Information from Diane Granger). Information from Joan Hickey taken from Family Bible. Her chart has Vannornam. Death record of Catherine Schell has Mother Harriet Vanomen. Birth Date from Chart courtesy Joan Hickey, a great granddaughter. Ontario Vital Statistics Deaths. De Groat Harriett F 91 N Dorchester 35 03-14-90 - # 01050090 Diane Granger had a friend put out a query about the Vannorman Family Association. Donald Van Arnam says the name was originally Van Arnhem, from Holland, and has many variants. I assumed she witnessed the marriage of her brother Abraham Vannornam, whose parents were John and Rebecca Vannornam (MS 248 RG 8 Series 1-6-B Reel 10 "Marriages Records Middlesex County") and she was likely named Rebecca after her mother. Then I saw a query in Families, Vol. 37, No. 2, 2 May 1998 from Stephen Wood of Whitby, who is researching the family of VAN ARNAM or VAN ARMAN or VAN NORMAN or VANORMAN. He is "sorting out Loyalist Jacob Van Arman fam/of East ON. Need to complete fam s/o Richard; John & Jacob Van NORMAN" and he mentions Harriet and Abraham and Anne/Zenas DAFOE. Chart courtesy Joan Hickey, a great great granddaughter of Peter De Groat who wrote to me has he died 13 June 1878.. (Noel T. and Joan Hickey lived in Ancaster, Ontario in 1981). Avon Cemetery booklet has died 11 June 1878. Diane Granger appears to have seen record of his death as 13 June 1878. J. Dee Ellis, Pioneer Families of Lapeer County Michigan, 1978, "Family History Sketches," p. 40. He gives Henry's date of birth. Information may have come from his gravestone Lum Cemetery? Copy of this book is at the Family History Library Salt Lake City and in the Norwich Archives. I read it in a library in Michigan on a trip through there in 1991. I assume the R. stands for Ruiter since his mother's father was Henry Ruiter/ 1851/ 1852 Dereham Township, Oxford County census, Part 2, Page 1.No. 9: Henry De Groat Farmer born Canada West Church of England age 57. (Canada West was at time of his birth Upper Canada). Dereham Township 1861 Census, part 4, p. 97, #11: H. DeGrote born Lower Canada Methodist age 56(?) J. D. Ellis, Pioneer Families of Lapeer County Michigan, 1978, "Family History Sketches," p. 40 has he was born either in Ontario or New Brunswick. Record of Death: Lapeer County Michigan Death Records 1867 - 1908, # 1012: April 20, 1883: " De Groat, Henry R. Male, White, Marriage. Age - 88 years, 5 months, 20 days. Place - Arcadia Township Cause - Old Age. Birthplace - New Brunswick: Occupation Mason Parents unknown to informant. I assume he was born Lower Canada (Quebec) like his brothers Peter and Patrick were. Protestant Marriages in the District of Bedford, Quebec 1804 - 1879, DEGROAT Henry Residence NOYAN 21 Jan. 1822 Caldwell Manor Denomination CE Elizabeth COVEY. (Copy of this book at Cloverdale Library as well as the following one). Caldwell Manor and Christie Manor Anglican Records 1815 - 1825, Volume 1, Missisquoi County, Quebec by Pamela Wood Waugh and Sheila Dean Wood, 1989 (taken from microfilm # 128.42 in the Quebec Archives. DEGROAT/ COVEY 21 Jan 1822, Henry DEGROAT of Noyan, mason, & of major age, & Elizabeth COVEY of same place, of minor age, were marr. Under COVEY Elizabeth S. Noyan 21 Jan 1822 Caldwell manor CE Henry DeGroat. His daughter Harriet however, has a record in her Bible that her mother Mary Coney, although the record of Harriet's baptism St. Armand gives her mother's name as Elizabeth Covey. She was a minor when married in January of 1822. She was not baptized with her siblings born between 1805 and 1815 when they were all baptized at the same time in 1815, suggesting she had already been baptized before they moved to the Noyan area. Pamela Waugh, "Descendants of Samuel Covey," No. 29 1st child of James Covey s/o Samuel and Elizabeth, has Elizabeth born c. 1803. (http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3500/covey2.html. On her web site Pamela Waugh has that she died 1 March 1832 in Franklin Co. NY, at 28 years of age. Her body was interred in Hillside Cemetery, Bombay, Franklin Co. NY. Pamela Waugh, Descendants of Samuel Covey, No. 29 1st child of James Covey s/o Samuel and Elizabeth. (http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3500/covey2.html. Ontario Register, Volume 8, 1990, "London District Marriage Register." Dereham, Oxford County Census 1852 age 35 born CW. 1870 Census Lapeer Co. Arcadia Two. Michigan age 51. Henry Clinton De Groat on 1894 State Census Lapeer County Michigan said his mother born Canada. Ellis, Pioneer Families of Lapeer County Michigan, 1978, p. 40 gives date of death. Lapeer County Michigan Death Records 1867 - 1908, # 1012. (Researched by Doug Shelton. Elaine Obenchain and McHenry County Illinois Genealogical Society, compilers, McHENRY COUNTY ILLINOIS CEMETERIES, VOLUME I: NORTHWEST TOWNSHIPS Including ALDEN, CHEMUNG, DUNHAM, GREENWOOD, HARTLAND, HEBRON (McHenry County Illinois Genealogical Society, 1011 North Green Street, McHenry, Illinois 60060, 1990 (Copy Family History Library, Salt Lake City. US/Ca 977.322 V30 v. 1), Page. 128, DUNHAM TOWNSHIP, 4. South Dunham Cemetery. The original records were lost in a fire in 1946 and recreated from memory sometime after the date. Although the cemetery is still cared for by members of the Wells family, unfortunately it suffers from a precarious position at the end of a hypnotizing length of arrow-straight road. Neighbors have lost count of the number of inattentive drivers who have plowed through the gates into the midst of the cemetery. However, the grounds have been rehabilitated, and here are a number of modern-day burials." Page 128 South Dunham Cemetery, NO. LOT NAME, E15 18 Wells, Catherine w/o Jonathan (d/o Joseph & Hannah Writer De Groat) Mother 9/15/1796 - 3/6/1889. History of McHenry County, Illinois (Chicago: Inter-State Publishing Co., 1885. Copy Family History Library Salt Lake City), Page 634: "Jonathan Wells, retired farmer, Dunham Township, was born in Halifax, Vt., June 20, 1804, a son of Joel and Chloe (Raison) Wells. When he was two years of age his parents moved to New York, and there he was reared and educated. He was married October, 1826, to Catherine DeGroat, a native of Lower Canada.," World Family Tree Maker Disk 2 has that she was born in 1796 near Lake Champlain. Matt Waack wrote she was born at Catherine was born in 1796 at Rouge Point,Canada, near Lake Champlain. On the very northern end of Lake Champlain there is a small town called Rouses Point At the northern end of Lake Champlain there is a small town called Rouses Point in New York State. Obituaries Catherine De Groat Wells and Jonathan Wells from The Herald. Courtesy M. James on the interet both have they were married in 1825. History of McHenry County, Illinois, 1885, p. 634. "He was married October, 1826 to Catherine DeGroat, a native of Lower Canada. The WFTM disk 2 has they were married in 1825. History of McHenry County, Illinois, 1885, p. 634. Elaine Obenchain and McHenry County Illinois Genealogical Society, compilers, McHENRY COUNTY ILLINOIS CEMETERIES, VOLUME I: NORTHWEST TOWNSHIPS Including ALDEN, CHEMUNG, DUNHAM, GREENWOOD, HARTLAND, HEBRON (McHenry County Illinois Genealogical Society, 1011 North Green Street, McHenry, Illinois 60060, 1990 (Copy Family History Library, Salt Lake City. US/Ca 977.322 V30 v. 1), Page. 128, DUNHAM TOWNSHIP, 4. South Dunham Cemetery. E16 Lot 18 Wells, Jonathan (s/o Joel & Chloe (Raison) father 6/20/1804 - 1/19/1992. World Family Tree Maker Disc 2. Elaine Obenchain and McHenry County Illinois Genealogical Society, compilers, McHENRY COUNTY ILLINOIS CEMETERIES, VOLUME I (McHenry County Illinois Genealogical Society), Page. 128, DUNAHM TOWNSHIP, 4. South Dunham Cemetery. Page 128. South Dunham Cemetery, No. E15 Lot 18 Wells, Catherine w/o Jonathan (d/o Joseph & Hannah Writer De Groat) Mother 9/15/1796 - 3/6/1889. World Family Tree Maker Disk 2 has that she was born in 1796 near Lake Champlain. Information from Mary James. That he was in Joseph's family and unmarried comes from Harriet McPhee's DAR application. DAR, Natl. # 21484 Obituary and Family Bible in possession of Doug Bartlett of Hawaii. Perhaps the Portau should be Potton Township and it was spelled incorrectly.? Or it was Port au --- (?) Matt Waack noted on the 1840 Illinois County McHenry Census Roll M704 65 Page 247 Image 121. On this page Jacob Smith just above Patrick Degorat. In Jacob Smith household Male 70 - 80; female 60 -70. However, Lucy Smith was only about age 23 then. Obituary and Family Bible in possession of Doug Bartlett of Hawaii.