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Last of the 14 John Leches

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Date: [unknown] to 1765
Location: Carden Hall, Cheshire, Englandmap
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Burke's Commoners of 1836[1] and several websites including Wikipedia report descent through 13 generations of John Leches as proprietor of Carden Hall, Tilston, Cheshire.

John Leche 14th was the last in the line of Johns and was succeeded by his son William Leche tradition was then followed again with at least 5 more generations of John Leche, although Carden Hall itself burned down in 1912 (apparently due to a carelessly discarded cigarette)[2]

The sequence of John Leches is as follows (for references click to each individual profile) This table is based on Burkes Commoners 1836[1] and Ormerods history of Cheshire[3] (on which Burkes 1836 seems largely to be based with some minor differences in the early generations) as well as later parish records and existing profiles on Wiki-tree.
There is a Daniel/ David between John Leche 3rd and 4th
The John Leche 7th son of John Leche 6th died without issue so that his cousin, John Leche 8th inherited after him.

NamebirthdeathrelationshipMarried
John Leche 1stc1280--Lucy de Cawarden
John Leche 2nd Surgeon to Edward IIIc1300-son?
John Leche 3rdc1360c1410GrandsonEleanor de Cawarden/Carden
John de l'Leche 4thc1395-sonMaud/Matilda del Holte
John Leche 5thc1410c1492son Isabel Johnson
John Leche 6thc14851552son Margaret Mainwaring
John Leche 7thc1510-sondied without issue
John Leche 8thc15101569nephew Jane Fitton
John Leche 9th15581591son Ursula Mainwaring
John Leche 10th15861644sonAlice Aldersley
John Leche 11th16141657son Elizabeth newton
John Leche 12th16421711son Grace Currier
John Leche 13th16751740son Sarah Hargrave
John Leche 14th17041765son Mary Hurleston
William Leche17341817son Hannah Newell
John Hurleston Leche 15th18051844son Elizabeth Stokes
John Hurleston Leche 16th18271903son Eleanor Stanhope
John Hurleston Leche 17th18581894sonKathleen Donaldson-Hudson
John Hurleston Leche 18th 18891960son Helen Janney
John Hurleston Leche 19th 19331989sonPrivate


John Leche tried to continue the family tradition and named his first 2 sons John, tragically both died young and he then had a son baptised William who eventually became his heir. He did have a 3rd son also baptised John who lived into adulthood but as William was older he took precedence for inheritance. There is a lot of confusion in many online Genealogy websites on the sequence of births and deaths and many sites assign the burial of one of the first two John Leches in 1731/32 to their grandfather John Leche (13th in table above) however careful examination of the sources looking at the actual images rather than just transcripts is revealing. While his father was alive John Leche (14th) was described as John Leche Junior esq of Carden but after his death he was simply given as John Leche esq. of Carden

The transition occurred between the baptism of John 14th's third son named John Leche in 1739[4] where the record gives his father's name as John Junior and his next son Thomas Leche in February 1740/41[5] whose baptism records as his father's name simply John Leche esq. showing that John Leche Senior had been buried between the baptisms of these two children i.e. between 4th Jun 1739 and 27th February 1740/41

This fits with the burial on 28 May 1740 of John Leche Senior Esq. who must be John 13th [6]

There were two John Leches rather than the one listed in Burkes commoners 1836[1] who died in 1731/32 namely;

John baptised 17th February 1729/30 [7] with burial on 25th March 1731 although the entry has been transcribed as John Locke rather than Leche[8]
(There is as of 28th November 2022 an incorrect transcription on FindMyPast.co.uk of the same entry that gives another John Leche baptised on the 1st April 1731[9] from the same image[10] - I have requested this be removed)
John baptised 12th October 1731 [11] which must be the John Leche buried 27th January 1731/2 at Tilston[12]




Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland Enjoying Territorial possessions or High Official Rank But Univested with Heritable Honours, Volume 2 by John Burke 1836 Published by Colburn pages 365-368 - online copy accessed 26 November, 2022) Leche of Carden
  2. Website accessed 21 november 2022) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carden,_Cheshire_West_and_Chester
  3. The history of the county Palatine and City of Chester (George Ormerod 1785-1873) Volume 2 page 384 (website version accessed 27 november 2022) https://archive.org/details/historyofcountyp02orme/page/384/mode/2up
  4. "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH52-XT5 : 10 December 2017), John Leche, 04 Jun 1739, Christening; citing , Tilston, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 1,751,855.
  5. "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH52-KNY : 10 December 2017), Thomas Leche, 27 Feb 1740, Christening; citing , Tilston, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 1,751,855.
  6. "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH52-NXK : 10 December 2017), John Leche, 28 May 1740, Burial; citing , Tilston, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 1,751,855.
  7. First John "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH5K-DBC : 10 December 2017), John Leche, 17 Feb 1729, Christening; citing , Tilston, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 1,751,855.
  8. First John's death website accessed 27 november 2022 Transcript | Image
  9. (Accessed 28th November 2022)https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBPRS%2FB%2F741627764%2F1
  10. (accessed 28 November 2022) https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FCHS%2F4011896%2F00396&parentid=GBPRS%2FB%2F741627764%2F1
  11. Second John "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH5K-LM3 : 10 December 2017), John Leche, 12 Oct 1731, Christening; citing , Tilston, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 1,751,855.
  12. Second John's death "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH5K-L98 : 10 December 2017), John Leche in entry for John Leche, 27 Jan 1731, Burial; citing , Tilston, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 1,751,855.




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