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Biography

Elizabeth (Griffin) Bull was born in 1796 in Tazewell, Claiborne County, Tennessee.[1] Her parents were William (Grissom) Griffin (~1772 - 1835) and Susannah (Chaw- Ew- Ker) Grissam (1762 - ).
Her siblings were...
  1. Lucretia (Griffin) Barnard (~1782 - ~1850)
  2. Mary Polly (Grissom) Barnard (1791 - 1828)
In 1802, Elisabeth married George Bull (~1790 - ~1815) in Grainger, Tennessee, United States.[2][3][4]
Their children were...
  1. Rebecca Lavenia (Bull) Leger (~1811 - >1870)
  2. Sterling Jefferson Bull (~1813 - ).

Elisabeth married Andrew Ross (~1801 - ).

Their children were...
  1. Alice Louisa (Ross) Condry (1821 - 1885)
  2. Louisa (Ross) Condry (~1821 - ~1885).
Elisabeth died in ~1836 in Grainger aged ~51.[5]
Name also known as Grissam, Grissom, Griffin[6]

Research Notes

George Washington Barnard was the oldest child of Jonathan Barnard and Obedience Bridget Barnett (hence the name change-she was William’s Grandmother) Jonathan and Biddy were married in Goochland, Virginia which was Biddy’s home. Jonathan had taken a job as a teacher after the war. He was from Salem, Massachusetts. Long story there as well.
I don’t have my tree in front of me but will do my best. George married Lucretia Griffin—-you will see the name written as Grissom, Gresham, etc., but legally it was Griffin. That fact is proven by the Federal government archives regarding the Trail of Tears.
Lucretia was part Native American. She was one of the children of William Griffin and Susannah ________. William Griffin’s Native American name was Talha Che ca. He is mentioned in a few documents and Grissom Island is named after him.
Lucretia has a sister named Elizabeth who was called Betsy. She was married very young to a man named George Bull who died young. They had two children; Rebecca and Sterling J. Betsy was remarried to a man named Andy Ross and had a third child, Louisa. Betsy died when Louisa was a toddler. Her children were adopted by her sister Mary Polly who was married to John Barnard, thus the Barnard name for Rebecca Bull. John Barnard died young as well and His brother George became the guardian of the children.
Betsy’s daughter Rebecca married young as well, to Peter Leger. They had eight children. This marriage is documented in the Native American National Archives.
Here is some info on Barnard/Barnetts (the name was interchangeable for them)[1] who applied to the Miller Roll, and Condrys with whom they were often intermarried. These are part of my maternal line. Does anyone else here recognize them? If so, I'll be happy to exchange information.
Sterling Kyle Condry's application no. 8683, to Miller Roll of Eastern Cherokee, dated Jan. 3, 1907. Claims thus: "I am one-eight Cherokee by blood; came to Indian Territory in 1881. My mother was about one-half Cherokee Indian, and lived in East Tennessee. My grandmother, Betsy Griffin, was on the Indian roll in Old Cherokee Nation, east of the Mississippi." Gives his father's English name as William H. Condrey, and his father's Indian name as Conatschy. In response to questions why his mother was not enrolled in 1851, and why he was never enrolled:
  1. My mother Louisa Condry was never enrolled for the reason that she was in Tennessee and never came to the Cherokee Nation.
  2. I was never enrolled for the reason that I was living in Tennessee at the time the roll was made up in 1851.
  3. None of my brothers and sisters were enrolled for the same reason.
  4. My great grandfather on my mother's side was Ta-le-ske-ske or Griffin and my grandfather on my mother's side was Tahla-che-ca or Griffin in English and my grandmother's name the husband of Tahla-che-ca, was Chaw-ew-ker. If my mother was on the roll it was as Louisa Ross daughter of Andy Ross.
  5. I don't know what my Indian name is nor do I know what my mother's Indian name was but she was living in Tennessee in 1851.
  6. Daniel Griffin the son of Ta-le-ske-ske my great uncle was the only one of the family who came to the Cherokee Nation with the Old Settlers.
This is in answer to the questions asking for additional information in application no. 8664-8683.
Sworn and subscribed to before me this 21st day of March 1908."
Robert L.C. Barnard
From application to Guion Miller Roll:
Robert L.C. Barnard
From application to Guion Miller Roll:
Miami, Okla. Dec 20, 1907
Mr Guion Miller
Dear In regard my Father and Grandmother being on the Rolls I do not know only what I have heard . My Grandmother maiden name was Betsy Griffen some times called Griffith. She first married a man by the name of Ross My Father name was Barnard sometimes called Barnett I have always understood that my Grandmother was on the rolls she died when Father was only five years old They did not belong to any other tribe
Many Respec R L C Barnard
Miami, Okla. Dec 20, 1907
No 3755
Robert L.C. Barnard, after first being duly sworn, deposes and says:
I am 52 years of age; was born in the Old Cherokee Nation, East Tennessee--Claiborne County. I claim Cherokee Indian blood through my father, Sterling J. Barnard. My father never received any Indian money from the government that I know of and I have never received any. My father came west to the Cherokee Nation in 1869. My father was not a Cherokee allotee and I have never gotten an allotment from the Dawes Commission. I first heard of my Indian blood as far back as I can remember. My father and mother told me of my Indian blood. The darkies owned by my father always called me Indian and it made me mad. I do not think my father ever lived with the Indians as a member of the tribe.
I do not know if my father was a voter. I have always voted. My father did not speak the Cherokee language much. I never saw my father's parents. My father's mother lived in Hancock County, Tenn.
Subscribed and sworn to before me at Miama, Oklahoma this twenty-second day of August, 1908.
HK
Assistant to Special Commissioner of the Court of Claims
Answers to questions on form show the following information:
Name: Robert L C Barnard
Residence: Miami
County: Quapaw Agency, Recording District No. 1, Indian Territory
Date and Place of Birth: East Tennessee, Claiborne County, June 11th 1856
Father was living in 1851. Claiming through my father. He claiming through his mother.
Wife: Alice E. Barnard, 48 years old next January.
Father: Sterling J. Barnard
Mother: Nancy Barnard, maiden name Nancy Mason
Both born in East Tennessee, Old Cherokee Nation. Resided there in 1851.
Father died 1871; mother living yet.
Neither ever enrolled for any land or benefits.
Brothers and sisters:
Barnard, Joseph A. 1848, living
Barnard, George F. 1850, living
Harrison, Louisa 1846, living
Brooks, Lizzie 1857, living
Harrison, Sallie 1861, living
Grandparents Indian and English names: My grandfather John Barnard on my Father's side.
Born East Tennessee, Old Cherokee Nation, not living.
Names of all their children:
Barnard, George dead
Louisa Barnard Condry dead
Sallie Barnard West dead
Remarks:
My Grand Mother Betsy Griffith was a half blood Cherokee Indian and was on the roll in the Cherokee Nation came to this Territory and was enrolled here they went back to East Tennessee to old Cherokee Nation and died. I have been so informed as to her enrollment but can swear positive.
Sworn 22 Nov 1906, before notary C.W. Dixon, witnesses G.G. Lacy, Frank M. Waterman
Supplemental application for minor children:
Barnard, Stella Grace, born June 2, 1892
Barnard, Willie Juanita, born March 14, 1894
1910 Census, Indian Territory T624 roll 1267
fam 16, white schedule, in Ottawa County, Ottawa Twp.
Robert L.C. Barnard, white male, age 53, married 30 years, 5 children, 5 living; b. TN, parents b. TN; can read, write; rents a farm.
Alice E., wife, 51 years, b. TX, both parents b. TX.
fam. 14
c. Charles Barnard, age 27, b. AR, father b. TN, mother b. TX
Lura, wife, Indian, age 21, b. OK, parents b. KA, married 5 years
Leota N., dau., age 4, Indian, b. OK
Olitha J., dau., age 2, Indian, b. OK
conjecture

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Surname Study
  2. ↑ "Tennessee, County Marriages, 1790-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZWX-QZT : 9 March 2021), George Bull and Elizabeth Grayson, 04 Feb 1802; citing Grainger, Tennessee, United States, Marriage, p. , Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville and county clerk offices from various counties; FHL microfilm 1,358,478. Marriage in 1802
  3. ↑ "Tennessee, County Marriages, 1790-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZWX-QZT : 9 March 2021), George Bull and Elizabeth Grayson, 04 Feb 1802; citing Grainger, Tennessee, United States, Marriage, p. , Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville and county clerk offices from various counties; FHL microfilm 1,358,478. Marriage in 1802
  4. ↑ "Tennessee, County Marriages, 1790-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZWX-QZB : 9 March 2021), G Bull and E Grayson, 1802; citing Grainger, Tennessee, United States, Marriage, p. , Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville and county clerk offices from various counties; FHL microfilm 1,358,478.
  5. ↑ Ancestry.com, U.S., Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1885, Image
  6. ↑ https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GQ1N-WJH
  • conjecture

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Biography

George Bull was born in ~1790, he married Elizabeth Griffin (~1796 - ~1824).
Their children were...
  1. Rebecca Lavenia (Bull) Leger (~1811 - >1870)
  2. Sterling Jefferson Bull (~1813 - ).[7]
Tennessee, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1810-1891, George Bull, state: Tennessee, Grainger County, year 1799, record type: tax list, database: Tennessee Early Census Index.
Tennessee, Early Tax List Records, 1783-1895, George Bull, year: 1799, residence: Grainger, Tennessee.
U.S. Census Reconstructed Records, 1660-1820, George Bull, male, Grainger County, Tennessee, residence year: 1800.
1830 United States Census,
George Bull,
Grainger, Tennessee.

North Carolina and Tennessee, U.S. Early Land Records, 1753-1931, George Bull, record date 06/20/1838, location: Grainger, Tennessee.

George died in ~1815 aged ~25.

Research Notes Betty Groh

George Washington Barnard was the oldest child of Jonathan Barnard and Obedience Bridget Barnett (hence the name change-she was William’s Grandmother) Jonathan and Biddy were married in Goochland, Virginia which was Biddy’s home. Jonathan had taken a job as a teacher after the war. He was from Salem, Massachusetts. Long story there as well.
I don’t have my tree in front of me but will do my best. George married Lucretia Griffin—-you will see the name written as Grissom, Gresham, etc., but legally it was Griffin. That fact is proven by the Federal government archives regarding the Trail of Tears.
Lucretia was part Native American. She was one of the children of William Griffin and Susannah (Chaw- Ew- Ker) Grissam. William Griffin’s Native American name was Talha Che ca. He is mentioned in a few documents and Grissom Island is named after him.
Lucretia has a sister named Elizabeth who was called Betsy. She was married very young to a man named George Bull who died young. They had two children; Rebecca and Sterling J. Betsy was remarried to a man named Andy Ross and had a third child, Louisa. Betsy died when Louisa was a toddler. Her children were adopted by her sister Mary Polly who was married to John Barnard, thus the Barnard name for Rebecca Bull. John Barnard died young as well and His brother George became the guardian of the children.
Betsy’s daughter Rebecca married young as well, to Peter Leger. They had eight children. This marriage is documented in the Native American National Archives.
Here is some info on Barnard/Barnetts (the name was interchangeable for them) who applied to the Miller Roll, and Condrys with whom they were often intermarried. These are part of my maternal line. Does anyone else here recognize them? If so, I'll be happy to exchange information.
Sterling Kyle Condry's application no. 8683, to Miller Roll of Eastern Cherokee, dated Jan. 3, 1907. Claims thus: "I am one-eight Cherokee by blood; came to Indian Territory in 1881. My mother was about one-half Cherokee Indian, and lived in East Tennessee. My grandmother, Betsy Griffin, was on the Indian roll in Old Cherokee Nation, east of the Mississippi." Gives his father's English name as William H. Condrey, and his father's Indian name as Conatschy. In response to questions why his mother was not enrolled in 1851, and why he was never enrolled:
  1. My mother Louisa Condry was never enrolled for the reason that she was in Tennessee and never came to the Cherokee Nation.
  2. I was never enrolled for the reason that I was living in Tennessee at the time the roll was made up in 1851.
  3. None of my brothers and sisters were enrolled for the same reason.
  4. My great grandfather on my mother's side was Ta-le-ske-ske or Griffin and my grandfather on my mother's side was Tahla-che-ca or Griffin in English and my grandmother's name the husband of Tahla-che-ca, was Chaw-ew-ker. If my mother was on the roll it was as Louisa Ross daughter of Andy Ross.
  5. I don't know what my Indian name is nor do I know what my mother's Indian name was but she was living in Tennessee in 1851.
  6. Daniel Griffin the son of Ta-le-ske-ske my great uncle was the only one of the family who came to the Cherokee Nation with the Old Settlers.
This is in answer to the questions asking for additional information in application no. 8664-8683.
Sworn and subscribed to before me this 21st day of March 1908."
Robert L.C. Barnard
From application to Guion Miller Roll:
Miami, Okla. Dec 20, 1907
Mr Guion Miller
Dear In regard my Father and Grandmother being on the Rolls I do not know only what I have heard . My Grandmother maiden name was Betsy Griffen sometimes called Griffith. She first married a man by the name of Ross My Father name was Barnard sometimes called Barnett I have always understood that my Grandmother was on the rolls she died when Father was only five years old They did not belong to any other tribe
Many Respec
R L C Barnard
Miami, Okla. Dec 20, 1907
No 3755
Robert L.C. Barnard, after first being duly sworn, deposes and says:
I am 52 years of age; was born in the Old Cherokee Nation, East Tennessee--Claiborne County. I claim Cherokee Indian blood through my father, Sterling J. Barnard. My father never received any Indian money from the government that I know of and I have never received any. My father came west to the Cherokee Nation in 1869. My father was not a Cherokee allotee and I have never gotten an allotment from the Dawes Commission. I first heard of my Indian blood as far back as I can remember. My father and mother told me of my Indian blood. The darkies owned by my father always called me Indian and it made me mad. I do not think my father ever lived with the Indians as a member of the tribe. I do not know if my father was a voter. I have always voted. My father did not speak the Cherokee language much. I never saw my father's parents. My father's mother lived in Hancock County, Tenn.
Subscribed and sworn to before me at Miama, Oklahoma this twenty-second day of August, 1908.
HK
Assistant to Special Commissioner of the Court of Claims
Answers to questions on form show the following information:
Name: Robert L C Barnard
Residence: Miami
County: Quapaw Agency, Recording District No. 1, Indian Territory
Date and Place of Birth: East Tennessee, Claiborne County, June 11th 1856
Father was living in 1851. Claiming through my father. He claiming through his mother.
Wife: Alice E. Barnard, 48 years old next January.
Father: Sterling J. Barnard
Mother: Nancy Barnard, maiden name Nancy Mason
Both born in East Tennessee, Old Cherokee Nation. Resided there in 1851.
Father died 1871; mother living yet.
Neither ever enrolled for any land or benefits.
Brothers and sisters:
Barnard, Joseph A. 1848, living
Barnard, George F. 1850, living
Harrison, Louisa 1846, living
Brooks, Lizzie 1857, living
Harrison, Sallie 1861, living
Grandparents Indian and English names: My grandfather John Barnard on my Father's side.
Born East Tennessee, Old Cherokee Nation, not living.
Names of all their children:
Barnard, George dead
Louisa Barnard Condry dead
Sallie Barnard West dead
Remarks:
My Grand Mother Betsy Griffith was a half blood Cherokee Indian and was on the roll in the Cherokee
Nation came to this Territory and was enrolled here they went back to East Tennessee to old Cherokee Nation and died. I have been so informed as to her enrollment but can swear positive.
Sworn 22 Nov 1906, before notary C.W. Dixon, witnesses G.G. Lacy, Frank M. Waterman
Supplemental application for minor children:
Barnard, Stella Grace, born June 2, 1892
Barnard, Willie Juanita, born March 14, 1894
1910 Census, Indian Territory T624 roll 1267, fam 16, white schedule, in Ottawa County, Ottawa Twp.
Robert L.C. Barnard, white male, age 53, married 30 years, 5 children, 5 living; b. TN, parents b. TN; can read, write; rents a farm.
Alice E., wife, 51 years, b. TX, both parents b. TX.

fam. 14

C. Charles Barnard, age 27, b. AR, father b. TN, mother b. TX
Lura, wife, Indian, age 21, b. OK, parents b. KA, married 5 years
Leota N., dau., age 4, Indian, b. OK
Olitha J., dau., age 2, Indian, b. OK

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Surname Study
  2. ↑ "Tennessee, County Marriages, 1790-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZWX-QZT : 9 March 2021), George Bull and Elizabeth Grayson, 04 Feb 1802; citing Grainger, Tennessee, United States, Marriage, p. , Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville and county clerk offices from various counties; FHL microfilm 1,358,478. Marriage in 1802
  3. ↑ "Tennessee, County Marriages, 1790-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZWX-QZT : 9 March 2021), George Bull and Elizabeth Grayson, 04 Feb 1802; citing Grainger, Tennessee, United States, Marriage, p. , Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville and county clerk offices from various counties; FHL microfilm 1,358,478. Marriage in 1802
  4. ↑ "Tennessee, County Marriages, 1790-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZWX-QZB : 9 March 2021), G Bull and E Grayson, 1802; citing Grainger, Tennessee, United States, Marriage, p. , Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville and county clerk offices from various counties; FHL microfilm 1,358,478.
  5. ↑ Ancestry.com, U.S., Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1885, Image
  6. ↑ https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GQ1N-WJH
  7. ↑ Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 9 April 2021), memorial page for Sterling Jefferson Barnard (17 Dec 1817–19 Apr 1872), Find A Grave: Memorial #9037617, citing Vineyard Cemetery, Evansville, Washington County, Arkansas, USA ; Maintained by Melinda Ramey (contributor 47020689).
  • Ancestry.com, Tennessee, U.S., Early Tax List Records, 1783-1895 for George Bull, Image
  • Ancestry.com, North Carolina and Tennessee, U.S., Early Land Records, 1753-1931 for George Bull, Image
  • Ancestry.com, 1830 United States Federal Census for George Bull, Image

Ancestry.com:

Tennessee, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1810-1891.

Tennessee, Early Tax List Records, 1783-1895, George Bull, year: 1799, residence: Grainger, Tennessee.

U.S. Census Reconstructed Records, 1660-1820,





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