Notes on Enslavers of Macon County, North Carolina

Date: [unknown] [unknown]
Location: Macon, North Carolina, United States
Surname/tag: Slavery

This page is to collect information on enslavers or enslaved people in Macon County, North Carolina, that I cannot yet link to a profile.

Contents 1 Notes on John Hall 2 Rebecca Hall and son 3 The Travels of Patsy 4 The Alfred Silers of Franklin 5 Sources

Notes on John Hall

John Hall

1838

John sells Patsy and Mary Ann to Thomas W. P, Poindexter for $800. Poindexter immediately, "for love & affection I have for my daughter, Rebecca C. Hall," gives Mary Ann back to John. He describes her as the eldest and only child of Patsy. (p. 47)

1839

Hall sells Emelin, 17-18 years old, to James Robison, for $600. (p. 94)

1841

March

Hall mortgaged to Dillard Love, 4 Negroes and two tracts of land (one of which the land he was living on), to "secure Love against hazard" because Love had put up a bond related to being the guardian of the children of Hall and his first wife. The Negroes by name are:

Danny

Elias

Merian

Beck (Rebecca -- listed as Beck in sale to Allman in 1843).

(p. 93)

June

Hall mortgaged to Dillard Love, Rebeca, 17 years old, also as surety because he serves as guardian of Hall's children with Caroline. (p. 106). Why is this mortgage mentioned when Rebecca was already mortgaged in March? This is the same person as "Beck" above.

1843

January Hall had mortgaged four enslaved people to Dillard Love. (See above, March 1841). It seems he was not able to pay that off. On 26 January 1843, he does the following:

Sells Rebecca and her male child to William Allman (with Love's permission)

Surrenders to Love three others: George, Eliza, and Charlotta

The mortgage is released.

(p. 116)

Note the differences in name:

Name 1841	Name 1843
Danny	George
Elias	Eliza
Merian	Charlotta

The sale of Rebecca or Beck is recorded as well. The child's age is given as 5 weeks. (p. 117)

June

John also sells Eliza and her youngest child, Margret, to his daughter, Mary F. Hall in June of 1843. This seems impossible, if he's sold her to Love. However, given the difference in names from 1841 to 1843, could "Eliza" in the 1843 surrender to Love be a typo and the name should be "Elias"? (p. 119)

All of this is part of settling his father-in-law's estate. The record reveals a lot about his family connections. He had married Caroline Swain in 1823. She passed away in 1828. Her father was George Swain. He left $1,000 to Caroline, but since she had passed, half of that went to John and the other half to her heirs. There are two lists in the record, making this very confusing. First, it says that John is the guardian of Caroline's heirs and lists them as Robert Hall, Rebecah Jane Hall, Mary F. Hall, Elizabeth C. S. Hall. Later, it says that half of the bequest from George Swain is to be divided among Robert Hall, Jane Hester, and Mary Hall. This happens 9 June 1843. If they were to receive a/2 of the $1000, is that $500, divided three ways? The two women were sold for $630. The record says the total was $1830. I can't figure this math out. The enslaved women were sold as a way of John getting to Mary the value he owed them from the bequest. That much is clear.

The next record on the page is John Hall selling to Jane Hester. The situation from the previous deed is repeated with the helpful notation that Jane is Rebecah Jane (Hall) Hester. John sells to Jane, again for $630, 14 year old Harriett. (p. 119)

Note: the George Swain in question appears to be George Charles Swain (Swain-1394), who died in 1829. It seems odd, if that is the case, that the estate would still be due in 1843. Also, his daughter Caroline is married to a Coleman on WT, although that marriage isn't sourced.

1850

In 1850, he is listed on the Macon Census with second wife Rebecca and her sister, Elizabeth Poindexter. There is no listing for him on the slave schedule. Perhaps that is due to financial loses that led to his mortgaging and selling all of the people he had enslaved.

1860

He is listed with four enslaved people:

23 year old female

21 year old male

7 year old male

0 year old female

Rebecca Hall and son

~1824 Rebecca is born (see the 1841 sale record) Owned by John Hall

1841 Mortgaged by John to Dillard Love. (Twice, in both March and June)

1841 Approximately March of 1841, Rebecca (17) becomes pregnant.

1842 Has a son in December

1843 Is sold by Hall to William Allman. Her son, 5 weeks old, is sold with her.

In 1850, William Allman has the following enslaved people:

Name	Relation	Sex	Age
William Allman	Owner
	Slave	M	50
	Slave	F	48
Rebecca	Slave	F	27
	Slave	F	11
Rebecca's son	Slave	M	8

^[1]

This is possibly William Allman, b. 1812.^[2]

It appears that William Allman dies before 1860, as in 1860, Mary (his wife) is head of household.) Try to find a will or probate.

Looking in 1870 Census. Possibilities: GCM3-W4F Beckie Hall "United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH27-3XS : 28 May 2021), Becky Love in entry for Leman Love, 1870. Becky Love

The Travels of Patsy

Awaiting merge of Poindexter-294 --> Poindexter-83 to get this on the correct profile. The correct Poindexter has Elizabeth as a mother. 1820 Patsey is born. This is based on her age listed in the 1840 record.

1830 Is there a 10 year old enslaved female on John Hall's Census record? Check also for an infant that might be Mary Ann.

1822 -- 1838 Patsey has a child, Mary Ann.

April 1838 Patsy is sold by John Hall to Thomas W. P. Poindexter for $800, along with her daughter, Mary Ann. on 27 April 1838. No ages are given for the two women.^[3] If she was born in 1820, Patsy is 18 and already has a child. Mary Ann cannot be more than 5 years old.

September 1838 Patsey is sold by Thomas to James Poindexter, for $1000 on 11 September 1838. He mentions that he had "lately purchased [her] of John Hall," so this is clearly the same Patsy.^[4] Notice here that she is sold away from her daughter and that Thomas makes a huge profit on the deal. I'm not sure what relationship (if any) there is between Thomas and James.

1838-1839 Patsy is pregnant and gives birth to Albert at some point in 1838 or 1839.

March 1840 Patsey, 20 years old, and her son, Albert, one year old, are sold by James and Thomas Poindexter to Jesse R. Siler for $900 on 25 March 1840.^[5] It does seem, from these transactions that Thomas is making out like a bandit, while James is losing money. If they split the proceeds equally, James bought Patsey for $1000 and only received $450 on this date, losing $550. If they were valued differently, then James lost at least $100. If both brothers are selling Patsey and Albert, but Patsey was enslaved by James (per the Sept. 1838 sale), was one year-old Albert enslaved by Thomas?

June 1840 T. W. P. Poindexter is listed with the following persons in the Macon County, US Census:

One free white male, 30-39 years old (This could be his son, Evan James, ~36 at the time)

One free white male, 60-69 years old (note: Thomas would be ~69 at this time)

One free white female, 15-19 years old (his daughter Harriet, ~12 or Mary, ~18)

One free white female, 50-59 years old (wife, Elizabeth, ~61)

One enslaved male, 10-23 years old^[6]

While the enslaved male is not identified, it is clear that Patsy and Albert are no longer in the household.

The Alfred Silers of Franklin

There may be a connection to Jesse Richardson Siler. Further notes at the free space page for Slaves of Jesse R. Siler

Name	Sex	Age	Occupation	Birth Place
Alfred Siler	M	53		North Carolina
Serocco Siler	F	15		North Carolina
Emilas Siler	M	14		North Carolina
Martha J Siler	F	4		North Carolina
Harriett Cleaves	F	12		North Carolina
Alfred A Cleaves	M	8		North Carolina

^[7]

Name	Sex	Age	Status	Relation	Occupation	Birth Place
Alf Siler	M	66	Widowed	Head	Farmer	North Carolina, United States
E. Siler	M	19	Single	Son	Works On Farm	North Carolina, United States
E. Sanders	F	39	Widowed	Other	Keeping House-Servant	South Carolina, United States
Joe Sanders	M	8	Single	Other		North Carolina, United States

^[8]

Alfred (age 60) married Eva Sanders (age 32) on 1 August 1880 in Macon, North Carolina, United States. J. R. Siler was one of the two witnesses.^[9]

Sources

1. ↑ "United States Census (Slave Schedule), 1850 ", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HRWW-3FZM : 15 March 2022), William Allman in entry for MM9.1.1/MVC5-9VQ:, 1850.
2. ↑ "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4B8-D5R : 24 December 2020), William Allman, Macon, North Carolina, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
3. ↑ McRae, Barbara Sears. Records of Old Macon County, N.C.': 1829-1850. Clearfield, 1991, p. 47.
4. ↑ McRae, Barbara Sears. Records of Old Macon County, N.C.': 1829-1850. Clearfield, 1991, p. 52.
5. ↑ McRae, Barbara Sears. Records of Old Macon County, N.C.': 1829-1850. Clearfield, 1991, p. 83.
6. ↑ "United States Census, 1840," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YY8-P78?cc=1786457&wc=31SV-SPK%3A1588669322%2C1588666200%2C1588665902 : 24 August 2015), North Carolina > Macon > Not Stated > image 8 of 51; citing NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
7. ↑ "United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW8V-R8R : 29 May 2021), Alfred Siler, 1870.
8. ↑ 1880 Census: "United States Census, 1880"
   citing Volume: 1; Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Affiliate Publication Number: T9; Affiliate Line Number: 00090; Digital film/folder number: 005161771; FHL microfilm: 1254971; Image number: 57; Sheet number: 470; Sheet letter: B; Packet letter: A
   FamilySearch Record: MCXW-PFJ (accessed 9 August 2023)
   FamilySearch Image: 33S7-9YBH-PPG
   Alf Siler (66), widowed, Farmer, head of household in Franklin, Macon, North Carolina, United States. Born in North Carolina, United States.
9. ↑ Marriage: "North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979"
   citing Macon, North Carolina, United States, p. , North Carolina State Archives Division of Archives and History; FHL microfilm 19,268
   FamilySearch Record: VXTD-JKP (accessed 9 August 2023)
   FamilySearch Image: 939N-ZH4Q-8 Image number 00198
   Alfred Siler (60) marriage to Eva Sanders (32) on 1 Aug 1880 in Macon, North Carolina, United States.