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Ogles of Durham

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Luke Oge of Royston

Luke Ogle of Royston, co. York. (fl. 1713), parentage is unknown, but:

  • he's the brother of Thomas Ogle of Blackburn, co. Lancs. & London (dsp. bef. 1714);
  • and the father of Wentworth Ogle, who is presumably the ancestor of Wentworth Ogle of St. Benet Sherehog, city of London (b. est. 1730 - d. 1796).

The noun Wentworth reappears in [Natal] South Africa, when Henry "Woholo" Ogle (1800-60), names one of his establishments, Wentworth.[1]

Who is Wentworth?

Some early references to the surnames Wentworth and Ogle are seen in military documents.

  • 23 Sep 1742 (Geo. II) 'Adm. Vernon and Gen. Wentworth were ordered home, and Sir Chaloner Ogle was ordered to command the fleet and the marines." ... Sir Chaloner Ogle and [...] Trewlaney, Gov. of Jamaica had a misunderstanding, with some asserting that Ogle was influenced by Vernon.[2]

[citation needed]

Ogles of Northumb. allied w/ Middleton via _____[citation needed], and

  • c. late 1500's - Mabel, dau. of John Ogle of Ogle Castle, m. Ralph Middleton of Trewick & Edington, ancestor of cadet branch of Middleton of Belsay, co. Northumb., who allies w/ Wentworth of Elmsall.
  • add a branch here...

Middleton allies w/ Wentworth of Belsay, co. Northumb.

17th cent.
Sir William Middleton's first wife was Mary Wentworth (d. 11 Sep 1667, bur. Rowmarsh, co. York), dau. of Sir Thomas Wentworth of Elmsall. ... So there's a precedent for the name in the Ogle family.

Sir William Wentworth of Wentworth Woodhouse and Hen. Saville held Wath, co. York for about a year.

  • c. 1617: Henry Savile (bur. 30 Aug 1641) & Sir William Wentworth of Wentworth Woodhouse, held Wath, co. York ... due to the execution of John Staniland, who was sentenced for murder of _______ . Savile sold his portion the next year to Peter Man.[3][4]

allied familes

The Daltons of Bispham, co. Lincs., have a Richard Dalton, who married Elizabeth Fleming, dau. of William of Wath, co. York. Her sister Agnes, married twice:

  1. (annulled) Thomas Hesketh (see Hesketh pedigrees).
  2. Thurstan Hall. ancestor of Savile

Agnes' daughter married into the Savile family ... Savile is a first name seen in the Ogles of Kirley, co. Northumb.

Desc. of Agnes Fleming

1. Agnes (Fleming) Hall
2. Elizabeth m. Henry Savile.
3. John Savile m. Beatrice, dau. of William Wentworth (d. 1549)
4. Henry Savile m. Hester Ayscough, desc. of Sir William Askew.

Daltons were also allied to Thornborough, pres. of co. Westmorland, who allied to Ogles of Whiston & Prescot in co. Lancs. (desc. of John Ogle & Margaret Booth). ... for Dalton of Belsis, see Nicholas Chaytor, esq. of Butterby Chaytor-893#Notes (Chaytor was father-in-law of Thomas Ogle of London, bros. of Luke of Royston).

speculation ... or maybe not?

//** Henry of Natal South Africa ** //

things in common...

WENTWORTH & the theory of onamastics (cognitive leap)
  • Henry used this noun to name an object.
  • Wentworth is an allied family of Savile.
  • Dalton of Croston >>[mtDNA] Fleming intermarried w/ Mr. [T...]forgot but marriage was annulled, and both parties remarried. From the male line descends into allies w/ Wentworth[citation needed] who allied w/ Wentworth & then worked with Savile.... Savile somehow becomes a given name in the house of Ogle of Kirkley, co. Northumb.

Sources

  1. Kotze, 1950, (see Ogle-1087#Property).
  2. Tindall, N. (1759). The History of England, 20, p. 585. Google Books.
    see also:
    "Vernon, Ogle and Wentworth," in Proceedings of the Massachusetts Historical Society, 1919, 52, p. 274. Google Books.
  3. Martin, W. Keble (William Keble). (1920). A history of the ancient parish of Wath-upon-Dearne (South Yorks.) p. 63-4.. Wath-upon-Dearne: W. E. Farthing. Hathitrust.org. eBook.
  4. for Wentworth Woodhouse, see nationaltrust.org.uk. Web.


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