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Phillips Plot - Albany Rural Cemetery

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Panorama of the entire plot.

Photos from the Albany Rural Cemetery. Regrettably, the gravestone are in terrible shape and almost impossible to read. A tree crashed across the plot damaging the children's graves. However, the cemetery cards are in good shape and available at Ancestry.com. The cemetery was extremely helpful and sent the photos and compilations below.

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Correspondence with Albany Rural Cemetery

From: Sallye [1] Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 6:38 AM To: cvyocom@gmail.com Subject: Strong/Phillips Family Lot

Good morning Carol –

I will be happy to take pictures of the gravestones; the cost is $5 each. The 6 gravestones are scattered across a lot that measures 19-3 x 26-9. Two of the stones are side by side but the others are not.

Regarding your question about the source of the information for Esther as an owner…I can tell you what is in our records and that is…the lot was purchased by George Strong; Esther Phillips and Catharine Phillips, Maria Strong and Elizabeth Oliver. The date of purchase was October 15, 1850. We have no further information on the purchase or purchasers.

If you would like I could make copies of the lot card and plot layout and each copy costs $1. That would be $2 plus the cost of the photos.

Please let me know if you still want pictures.

Regards, Sallye Romagna Registrar

From:"Carol Yocom" <cvyocom@gmail.com> Date:Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 7:32 AM Subject:RE: Strong/Phillips Family Lot Thank you! Take as many pictures as you need of the obelisk inscriptions (or any of them!) I will gladly pay.

Best regards, Carol Yocom

From: Sallye [2] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 7:12 AM To: 'Carol Yocom' Subject: RE: Strong/Phillips Family Lot

Carol –

Update: I went out looking for your family plot. I knew I was in the right area, but couldn’t find the markers on my first trip. Then I was able to pinpoint it by using other nearby lot names to zero in on it.

Here is a little history that I have been told about that area of the cemetery. This is an interesting lot location in our cemetery being in a very old section and has not had any attention in a long time, other than our crews mowing the grass. The cemetery used to have numerous “avenues” which at that time were simply grass walking pathways. This section was also near one of the old “lakes”, so I can only guess it was a very pretty location, way back then. When I looked at the lot layout it notes that it faces one of these “avenues”. Then at some point in time the lakes were undammed and that process, I am told, undermined a number of nearby graves. Turns out that this avenue has become blocked with down branches and has become overgrown and any visible markers are facing the “avenue”. I have attached one picture which shows two of the markers that would be facing this avenue when it was 1850ish. There is also a tree down on the lot which I think may have knocked down other markers on the lot and would be obscuring them. The engraving on the obelisk is very faint and the obelisk top is missing so it made it hard to determine that I was on the right lot. The shorter upright monument had so much overgrowth in front of it that I could not walk in front of it.

I have spoken to our grounds supervisor and he will go out to see if he can do anything to clean it up any better so I can get a better picture(s) for you. If he cannot do much I will send the pictures that I do have, along with the copy of the lot diagram and lot card.

Sallye


From: Sallye <albanyruralcemetery@nycap.rr.com> Date: Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 7:13 AM Subject: RE: Strong/Phillips Family Lot To: Carol Yocom <cvyocom@gmail.com>

Hi Carol –

Ok – here goes…..

The pdf attached contains:

- Lot layout with my notes with corresponding numbers of the pictures (the last three digits of the file names); - A clean and clear copy of the plot layout diagram - Copy of the lot/plot card - Map of cemetery indicating location within cemetery - Map of Section 92 and where your family lot is

Pictures – (I will send probably two more emails as our system will only let me send so many in one email)

251: Marker at grave #4 – Baynton Knowles. When I first explored the lot this marker was face down. Our grounds supervisor was able to lift it up so I could take the picture.

252 and 253: Marker at grave #3 – Katie Knowleton. This marker was also face down when I first explored your lot. Pic. 253 shows a “rail” like piece that goes out from the headstone. It is a stone material and part of the marker and, I was told, this type of marker is called a cradle marker. There were two of the “rails” which would represent rails on a cradle.

254 & 255: The wording says “Our Children”. This was also pretty deep into the ground. My guess is that it would have been a fairly low marker, or what is pictured is just the base. These graves are pretty well covered by the downed tree on the lot.

256, 257 & 258: Pictures of the obelisk. The inscription is quite faint due to its age, I guess. It is also broken – I did not see a top piece laying around, but it could be down in front in the overgrowth.

260, 261 and 262: Pictures of the marker at grave #2 – Catharine Phillips. 260 shows the top edge which I think may say “Our Mother”. The front of this marker faces toward the overgrowth so I stepped in front of the marker as best I could by pushing part of the bush back and basically just held my camera down and hoped for the best…thus 261 & 262 look strange but there are two pictures – one of the wording along the bottom and one of the angel towards the top.

264 & 265 – Put these together and you get a “panoramic” view of the lot as taken from the “back” north edge.

I could not find the marker at graves 7, 8 & 9. Most likely the downed tree on the lot has covered them.

There are also corner markers on the lot and while the pictures don’t really show them, they do have a metal ring on them and this, we believe, may have had some kind of metal chain going between them and “fencing” in the lot. We found 5 of them but think there were probably six due to the size of the lot.

If you look at the section map you will see various “tour” roads and other avenues. Most of these were and still are grass paths – maybe buggy paths back in the day, or just walking paths. However, as I mentioned in my previous email, your family lot used to face one of these tour roads, which has been blocked by downed branches/trees and is now heavily overgrown.

I hope you enjoy the pictures. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Best regards, Sallye


Cemetery Burial Cards, Albany Rural Cemetery.

  • Ancestry.com. Menands, New York, Albany Rural Cemetery Burial Cards, 1791-2011 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Albany Rural Cemetery Internment Cards. Albany Rural Cemetery, Menands, New York.
This is the plot layout.
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