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This is the proposal as of Jan 15. The ~Dec 8th draft is at the archived link.[1] The primary change was "Holocaust Camp" to "Concentration Camp". The ~Dec 19th draft is at this archived link[2] The primary changes are:
- Holocaust to "Holocaust Era"
- lengthening the names of the categories in order to allow for easier differentiation for topics at the exact same location (i.e. Soviet camps after WWII, etc).
The Holocaust Project is following this process: Categorization - Proposing Category Structures. This page mentions the goals that any new proposal must meet. All of this information has been provided to the Holocaust Project members who are in the GoogleGroup, Nat Durbin, Steve Harris, and a couple other folks. My understanding is that they think all of this will work.-Weatherall-96 02:56, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Holocaust Era categories can be nested under any other applicable category, such as Concentration Camp stream and WWII Civilian Casualties
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Proposal
The biggest problem in the Holocaust categories is that it's unclear whether to place victims who died in the Camps or the Persecution Victims category stream. This proposal aims to fix that.
Most significant change:
- New sub-category "Holocaust Locations" encompassing several items: camp, ghetto, massacre. You can see the current setup here: Category:Holocaust and here is another way to view all the subcategories.
- to accomplish this change, it is necessary to recategorize all items in this category stream to Holocaust Camps from Holocaust Camps, Auschwitz to the new category Concentration Camps, Auschwitz, Victims. The easiest way to do this would be to rename the category - Editbot can do this. Then we will need to pull out any people from that category who did not die in that camp and put them in the new category Concentration Camps, Auschwitz, Prisoners. This is a minority; the categories Camps and Holocaust Victims at X Camp (currently nested under Holocaust Persecution Victims) have been primarily used interchangeably over the past few years for those who died.
Less significant changes:
- Remove the little-used categories Hidden, Escaped, Survived Other Ways. That text can be findable via a WTplus search, if you put the word in the sticker like {{.....text=survived by hiding at X location}} (Done: Cats removed 22 Jan Weatherall-96 21:42, 24 January 2024 (UTC))
- All profiles in Died will be moved to the new X Camp, Victims category (or other location- ghetto, massacre, or Unknown Location)
- Simple name change - Holocaust, Emigrated to Holocaust, Forced Emigration.
- No change: single Survivor category rather than one for each camp/ghetto location.
Table
This is a horizontal way of looking at the new version of the category streams. Not all subcategories are included past Level 2 (for example, under Holocaust Tributes, there is Righteous Among the Nations in addition to Stolpersteine. I just tried to make a simple visual) Pressing the "Navigate" button in the top right of the Holocaust categories page shows the current setup in vertical form. https://plus.wikitree.com/function/WTWebCategoryNavigate/Category.htm?category=Holocaust Level 0 left off for viewing convenience; it's simply Holocaust.
2 Notes:
- There can be parallel language categories for these English-language ones. All languages will show up in the category picker (for lower-level categories). For example, for Hebrew & German, they could be something like (התקופה הנאצית )מחנה בוכנוואלד and KZ Buchenwald Opfer (NS-Staat) (or something along these lines.... I'm an English-speaker, this is just a note/ starting point Weatherall-96 00:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC))
- On the iphone, 50 characters shows up when phone is vertical, and about 60 when it is horizontal. "Dora-Mittelbau Concentration Camp Prisoners (Buchenwald subcamp)" is 59 characters.
Level 1 | Level 2 | Level 3 | Level 4 | Level 5 |
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Holocaust Era Locations | Holocaust Era Concentration Camps | Buchenwald Concentration Camp (Nazi Regime) | Buchenwald Concentration Camp Prisoners | Dora-Mittelbau Concentration Camp Prisoners (Buchenwald subcamp) |
Buchenwald Concentration Camp Victims | Dora-Mittelbau Concentration Camp Victims (Buchenwald subcamp) | |||
Buchenwald Concentration Camp Liberated | ||||
Holocaust Era Ghettos | Warsaw Ghetto | Warsaw Ghetto Prisoners | ||
Warsaw Ghetto Victims | ||||
Holocaust Era Massacres | ______ Massacre | ______ Massacre Victims | ||
______ Massacre Survivors [note 2] | ||||
Holocaust Era Transport [note1] | ||||
Holocaust Era Tributes | Stolpersteine | |||
Holocaust Era Topics | Kindertransport | |||
Holocaust Era Notables | ||||
Holocaust Era Survivors | ||||
Holocaust Era Fate Unknown |
- [note1] undecided if we will do train transport. - we discussed having transit or transport (as in trains, not as in transit camps) as a category alongside camp, ghetto, massacre.
- [note 2]
- Most massacres will not have a survivor category - Babi Yar (aka Babyn Yar) may have had as many as 29 survivors. (that's for the first massacre at Babyn Yar, there were more later at the same site) The categorization project recommends not creating a category when only a handful of profiles will go in it - however, we can still keep track of survivors of other massacres by use of sticker text combined with Wikitree Plus search.
- Some massacre sites will need dates in the category, as the sites were used more than once.[3]
Other Links
Past G2G discussions, for reference:
- https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/676316/proposal-for-new-policy-on-category-naming This is the proposal to make category names follow the format "Location, Theme" where possible. I think this proposal achieves that.
- Other Holocaust-related discussions. Recent: Dec 2023; the first post there also links to some older discussions. Nov 2022
Sources
- ↑ Archived version of this page as of 15 December 2023. Main changes from 15 Dec to newer 17 Dec version: Holocaust Camp to Concentration Camp. https://web.archive.org/web/20231215023438/https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Proposal_for_Holocaust_categories_2023
- ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20240108193833/https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Proposal_for_Holocaust_categories_2023
- ↑ section titled Killing Sites: Places of Multiple Massacres https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/mass-shootings-of-jews-during-the-holocaust
- Here's the finalized plan for what to do on Holocaust categories Jan 15, 2024.
- Formal Proposal - Holocaust categories Dec 20, 2023.
- Holocaust Project: Proposal for adjustment to Holocaust categories Dec 8, 2023.
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