Raymond-Shaw Research Notes

Date: [unknown] [unknown]
Location: [unknown]

George Raymond (1782-1868)
Priscilla (Shaw) Raymond (1784-1866)

---

Summary. As to George Raymond's birth and parentage, the only historical record known to be identified is his 1868 Massachusetts death ledger entry. It does report that he was born at Boston, includes his death date and age at death (but no date of birth); in the space allocated for "Names and Birthplace of Parents," it lists only "Boston." ^[1]

Samuel Raymond (1886) include this George Raymond in his ''Genealogies of the Raymond Families of New England, but did not attribute parents, etc.^[2] The sketch of this George opens, "George 121, son of ..., Plymouth, Mass., b. at Boston, Mass., July 9, 1782, m. Priscilla Shaw, of Middleboro, Sept 2, 1804 ..."

No record of birth or baptism for an otherwise unidentified George Raymond at Massachusetts in 1778-1790 was found in a search of vital records at AmericanAncestors. No alternatives were identified by WikiTree collaborators on G2G.

A leap in logic became recorded in the more recent published material by Samuel Edward Raymond, Raymond Genealogy - Volume II - Descendants of John and William Raymond (1972), at least as the record is set out by Raymond B. Howard ("Raymond Families of New England"). Raymond's logic (per Howard) works from

• George Rayment's birth at Boston in 1782, presumably based on his 1868 death record.
• Military services records about Nathan Raymond, citing "Nathan Raymond (S29398), U. S. Pension Files; The National Archives, Wash., D. C." and apparently claiming separately that in June 1780, he "enlisted in U.S. Navy as a seaman on ship "Resource" commanded by Capt. Israel Thorndike."
• An indexed 1781 English marriage record said of "Nathan Raymond" and "Jane Stephens." The referenced indexed record has not been located, but the published account refers to this as a marriage license concerning "Nathaniel Raymond," a mariner of Boston, and "Jane Stephens."

[WIP]

Research Notes

See also the related G2G, Seeking sources to confirm parentage of George Raymond ...."

George Raymond birth/baptism search at AmericanAncestors. Searched 1778-1790, location as "Massachusetts."

George Washington Raymond, born Sheffield, 1 Nov 1783, son of Zebulon Sacket and wife Lucy.

George Raymond, baptized Ipswich, 5 October 1783, son of Nathaniel. [Ipswich VR, 1:311, cites "C.R.5."]

Raymond Genealogy (1972). Samuel Edward Raymond, Raymond Genealogy - Volume II - Descendants of John and William Raymond (1972), as per Raymond B. Howard, "Raymonds of New England" This is a limited distribution work; unclear how many folks have actually seen the published material. It has been incorporated into a Raymond family file maintained by Raymond B. Howard, "Raymonds of New England" (site owner uses the initialism "RG-DJWR" to cite material from the 1972 work by Samuel Edward Raymond.) According to the database by Raymond B. Howard, Samuel Edward Raymond makes the claim that ...

(a) George Raymond (d. 1868) was the son of Capt. Nathan Raymond, by his "probable" marriage in Falmouth, Cornwall, England, 21 August 1781, to "Jane Stephens."

(b) A marriage at Falmouth, Cornwall, England, 21 August 1781, to Jane Stephens is reported on Nathan's profile, citing "W. A. & V. Lambert, Lambert Indexes, 8 Braken Ave., London S. W. 12, Eng."

(c) In the "RG-DJWR" footnote to Nathan's profile, Howard includes (emphasis added),

"In June 1780 Nathan Raymond of Beverly enlisted in U.S. Navy as a seaman on ship "Resource" commanded by Capt. Israel Thorndike. The DAR Records claim incorrectly that this was (126) Nathan Raymond. [DAR Records, XXXII, 19 & L, 241]

It seems probable that as a result of his naval training, he became a captain of a merchant vessel, and that the home port of his ship was Boston. Capt. Nathan Raymond, mariner of Boston married (1) 21 August 1781 Jane Stephens at Falmouth, Cornwall, England. This marriage is not shown in the Raymond Gen. There was a George Raymond in Plymouth, who was born in Boston 9 July 1782. The Raymond Gen. has no record of parents of this George. The Death Certificate of George Raymond also fails to list his parents. But it is assumed that this George Raymond was son of Nathan Raymond and Jane Stephens.] [Death Certificate of George Raymond #70593, The Commonwealth of Massachusetts]"

Raymond-Stephens 1781 records. Could not identify "W. A. & V. Lambert, Lambert Indexes," but the marriages in this time period were published in 1915, see Olivia Blanche Fox and Susan E. Gay, The registers of baptisms, marriages & burials of the parish of Falmouth in the county of Cornwall, 1663-1812 ... 1 vol. in 2 (Exeter, The Devon and Cornwall Record Society, 1915), 67; digital images, Hathi Trust. The published record reads (emphasis added), "Raymont, Nathaniel, Mariner, of Boston, America & Jane Stephens, lic. ... 21 Aug. [1781]."

Are the bonds, etc. for the licenses available? Are the original copies of the parish registers accessible?

Revolutionary War Pension file (S29398). This is the file of Nathan Raymond, born Beverly, 1754. He filed for a pension from Lyman, Maine. Nothing in the file mentions service in the Navy. :His original declaration is sworn 7 August 1732. "Nathan Raymond a resident of Lyman ... aged 78 years ... doth on his oath make the following declaration ..." I was born in Beverly ... in the year 1754--have resided in Lyman, in the state of Maine, -- thirty-one years ... [NARA Series M804, Roll 2008; FHL Digital Collection, DGS 4,167,841, image 61-62 of 1326]

Further his sworn statement of 4 May 1833, he was age seventy eight. "I resided in Beverly ... at the time I entered the service, but have resided in Lyman ... Maine ... over thirty years as noted in my original declaration." [NARA Series M804, Roll 2008; FHL Digital Collection, DGS 4,167,841, image 72 of 1326]

Raymond Forum thread regarding George Raymond, d. 1868. See William Feeney, Raymond Surname Form post, 4 September 2000, and related thread; digital images, Genealogy.com. In one of the replies, Feeney writes, "I was aware from the 1972 Raymond Genealogy that the author Samuel Raymond believed that George Raymond's parents were Capt Nathan Raymond and Jane Stephens of Falmouth, Cornwall, England. One problem is that the IGI lists Nathaniel Raymond and Jane Stephens as the parents. One problem is that it is likely that Nathan Raymond served aboard a privateer during the Revolutionary War which did not end until 1782, and the marriage took place in England the year before ..."

Samuel Raymond (1886) record. George 121, son of ..., Plymouth, Mass., b. at Boston, Mass., July 9, 1782, m. Priscilla Shaw, of Middleboro, Sept 2, 1804, and had at Plymouth, George 264, b. Dec. 19, 1804. Charles, b. Apl 4, 1806, d. Mar. 19, 1822. William Shaw 265, b. Dec. 8, 1807. Eleazar Seabury 266, b. Oct. 20, 1809. Newell 267, b. July 27. 1811. Priscilla, b. Nov. 17, 1813, m. Seth McLaughlin, May 8, 1837. He d. May 23, 1869, without issue. Harvey Shaw 268, b. Nov. 9, 1815. Phebe Soule, b. June 26, 1818, m. J. Russell Dike, Dec. 7, 1841, and d. May 16, 1843. Annie Robinson, b. Dec. 12, 1820, m. Joseph M. Bradford, Mar. 18, 1839, and d. at Janesville, Ill., Feb 6, 1852. Charles 269, b. July 22, 1823. Edgar Crossman 270, b. July 20, 1825. George Raymond, d. May 23, 1868. Priscilla Raymond, b. Oct. 8, 1784, d. Apl. 6, 1866.

Littleton Massachusetts Raymonds. A least a few generations of Raymonds in this time period resided Littleton, Massachusetts (Middlesex County). Among those of the male line who had children registered (birth or baptism) 1763-1774, at Littleton are a Dr. Nathan Raymond; he was of Littleton when he was published 31 October 1763, to marry Rebecca Richardson of Lancaster. They had a son Nathan Raymond born Littleton, 7 September 17[?63]. There were a few Stevens entries in Records of Littleton, but those seem much later (1830s+), and there were no entries for a Jane Stevens. See Samuel Smith and Joseph A. Harwood, Records of Littleton, Massachusetts … (Littleton, Mass.: [Patriot press, Concord, Mass.], 1900), 268 (Raymond-Richardson int.), 79 (birth of Nathan), 116 (birth of Nathan, Rebecca, Dorothy, Mary, William and Susannah); digital images, Hathi Trust].

Dr. Nathan Raymond is #63 in RG-DJWR per Raymonds of New England. His son, Nathan Raymond is #157 in RG-DJWR per Raymonds of New England.

Nathan Raymond #67 in RG-DRR. No note regarding RG-DJWR.

Capt. Nathan Raymond is #126 in RG-DJWR per Raymond of New England.

Maj. Nathan Raymond is #222 in RG-DJWR per Raymonds of New England.

FindAGrave George Raymond, memorial 92245958; web content, FindAGrave. Memorial narrative opens, "George Raymond, son of ......, Plymouth Mass ..."

Note regarding Nathan's brother Nathaniel. Nathan's brother Nathaniel is unlikely to have been the man at Cornwall, England, as he married in the 1770s to Phoebe Dodge. Their children were recorded at Ipswich/Hamilton between from 1779 through at least 1783.

Different Raymond-Stephens 1788 marriage. A reference of Naphtali Raymond to Rebecca Stephens is reported in Samuel Raymond (1886), p. 26 (Naphtali 88); digital images, Hathi Trust. This Naphtali is a son of Eliakiam 32, descendants of Richard Raymond. Naphtali was a seaman. Children recorded at Norwalk, Connecticut. He died in South Carolina "while on a visit to his daughters."

Sources

1. ↑ George Raymond 1868 Plymouth death record, "Massachusetts Deaths, 1841-1915, 1921-1924," database with images, FamilySearch, FHL film 960,192, Digital Collection, DGS 4,221,408 (Deaths v. 211-212 1868), image 651 of 666. Reports he died 23 May 1868, aged 85 years, 10 months, 4 days. (FamilySearch calculator returns corresponding birth date as 19 June 1782.)
2. ↑ Samuel Raymond (1886), Genealogies of the Raymond Families of New England ... (New York, Press of J.J. Little & co., 1886) 149 (George 121); digital images, Hathi Trust.