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Reverend Joseph Hull's Company
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The following is paraphrased from The Exodus of Reverend Joseph Hull at http://www.metacirque.com/laurencecook/genes/bicknell/bicknell3.html.

The Reverend Joseph Hull was born at Crewkerne, Somerset in 1594 to Thomas Hull and Joanna Peson Hull. He graduated from St. Mary Hall, Oxford in 1614. He was ordained by the Bishop of Exeter in 1619, serving as the teacher, curate and minister of Colyton, Devonshire for three years. He was appointed Rector for North Leigh, Devonshire in 1621 where he served until 1632. The first record of Hull's conflict with the Church of England is his association with the Reverend John Wareham who was accused of stating that certain church practices were undesirable. He was suspended from his parish and left the diocese to settle at St. Sidwell's in Exeter on November 13, 1627. Hull had probably already gathered at least part of his company of emigrants, which included the Bicknells, the Lovells (probably related to Zachary's wife, Agnis Lovell), and Richard Porter (whose yet to be born daughter, Mary, would wed Zachary's son John) and was preparing, or prepared, to leave for New England when he was cited for illegal preaching in January 1635.

The following is quoted from Kingman, Bradford, Descendants of Henry Kingman, page 1. (Boston, MA: David Clapp & Son, 1912).

At the end of forty-six days on the ocean and an uneventful passage, they sailed into Massachusetts Bay on the sixth of May, 1635, leaving the settlement of Hull on the left, and came to an anchorage before Governor Winthrop's “little village” of Boston, where they remained until July 24, waiting permission of the General Court to locate. After reconnoitering for some time they decided Wessaguscus was their best location. They immediately passed in among the numerous islands in the bay and entered Fore River, and came to anchor about four miles from the mouth of the same.

Wessaguscus was part of the Massachusetts Bay Colony and in 1635 with the addition of 100 families under the leadership of Joseph Hull the name was changed to Weymouth.[1]

In 1870 Mr. H. G. Somerby discovered a list of the Hull passengers and sent it to Mr. William L. Appleton of Boston, with the following letter:

LONDON, September, 1870. My DEAR MR. APPLETON: - Amongst a bundle of miscellaneous manuscripts just turned up in the Public Record Officer I find with other documents relating to New England, the following list of passengers which I have the pleasure of sending to you for publication in the Register. I remain, yours very truly, H. G. SOMERBY.

Mr. Appleton's list was published in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register,[2]

That list is also given in Hotten's Original Lists of Persons of Quality[3]

The list:

1 Joseph Hall *
2 Agnis Hall *
3 Joane Hall*
4 Joseph Hall *
5 Tristram *
6 Elizabeth Hall *
7 Temperance *
8 Gressell Hall *
9 Dorothy Hall *
10 Judith French
11 John Wood
12 Robert Dabyn,
13 Musachiell Bernard
14 Mary Bernard
15 John Bernard
16 Nathaniel
17 Rich. Persons
18 Francis Baber
19 Jesope Joyner
20 Walter Jesop
21 Timothy Tabor
22 Jane Tabor
23 Jane Tabor
24 Anne Tabor
25 Sarah Tabor
26 William Fever
27 John Whitmarks
28 Alice Whitmarke
29 Jmo Whitmarck *
30 Jane
31 Onseph
32 Rich.
33 William Read
34 *
35 Susan Read
36 Harma Read
37 Lusan Read *
38 Rich Adams
39 Mary Adams
40 Mary Cheame
41 Zachary Bickwell
42 Agnis Bickwell
43 John Bickwell
44 John Kitchin
45 *
46 George Allin
47 Katherine Allin
48 George Allin
49 William Allin
50 Matthew Allin
51 Edward Poole
52 Henry Kingman
53 Joane
54 Edward Kingman
55 Joane
56 Anne
57 Thomas Kingman,
58 John Kingman
59 Jn Ford
60 William Kinge
61 Dorothy
62 Mary Kinge
63 Katlieryne
64 William Kinge
65 Hanna Kinge
66 Thomas Holbrooke
67 Jane Holbrooke
68 John Holbrooke
69 Thomas Holbrook
70 Anne Holbrooke
71 Elizabeth
72 Thomas Dible
73 Francis Dible,
74 Robert LovelI
75 Elizabeth Lovell
76 Zachetis Lovell
78 Anne Lovell
79 John Lovell
     Ellyn Lovell
80 James
81 Joseph Chickin
82 Alice Kinham
83 Angell Hollard
84 Katheryn
85 George Land
86 Sarah Loud
87 Richard Joanes
88 Robert Martyn
89 Humfrey Shepheard
90 John Upham
91 Joane Martyn
92 Elizabeth Upham
93 John Upham, Junior
94 William Grane
95 Sarah Upham
96 Nathaniel Upham
97 Elizabeth Upham
98 Dorst. Richard Wade
99 Elizabeth Wade
100 Dinah
101 Henry Lush
102 Andrew Hallett
103 John Noble
104 Robert Ruste
105 John Woodcooke
106 Rich. Porter

* Notes

  • List numbers 34 and 45 are blank and that 77 is missing.
  • Number 34 was used as the second line for William Read on line number 33.
  • Number 66 contains the second line for Hanna Kinge on line number 65, with the entry for Thomas Holbrooke following on an unnumbered line.

Hotten notes several questionable entries in the list.

  • He notes the document date should be 1635/6.
  • The nine Hull family members are listed as "Hall", with Grissell's and Dorthy's names changed to "Hull" with a "u" marked above the "a" in the original, with the others unchanged.
  • He notes that:
    • Jmo Whitmarke is doubtlessly intended to be John Whitmarke.
    • William Kinge's age is given as 40, with 30 written over it.
    • Sara Land's name was originally written "Lang."
    • The line number for Richard Wade follows his name which is on an unnumbered line.
  • He notes that several ages in the original list must be in error.
    • Elizabeth Wade is listed as 6, but is the wife of Richard.
    • Richard Porter is listed as 3, but is shown as a "husbandman", a term used to indicate a farmer.

There is some dispute over the name of the ship.

Mr. H. G. Somerby's 1870 list of the Hull passengers does not name the ship. Many internet sources list the Marygould (aka Marygold, Mary Gold and other similar spellings. Others list The Blessing of Ipswich.

The Marygould is named as the ship carrying Thomas Holbrook and his family:

Marygould Master:Edward Cuttance Port:Weymouth Destination:New England ref:876/1 Date: 30 Mch 1635
Thomas Holbrook, his wife and children
William Pullmer and his company
Henry Sumford and his company
Henry Wade and his company
Henry Cuttance and his company
William Wallham and his company
Robert Wetscombe [4], and that source is referenced in the Great Migration Newsletter[5]. These sources are used by Hotten[3]

  1. Weymouth, MA, on Wikipedia
  2. New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol. XXV, pages 13, 14 and 15, January, 1871
  3. 3.0 3.1 Hotten's Original Lists of Persons of Quality 1600-1700 pages 283-286
  4. National Genealogical Society Quarterly Vol 71, page 173
  5. Great Migration Newsletter Vol 7 page 9




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Given that H.G. Somerby was a known fraudster and the "discovery" of a passenger list sadly looks a lot like his typical M.O., has anyone investigated whether the list might have been a fabrication? See WT Somerby category
posted by Cheryl Hammond
Good question. While Somerby's list was published in 1870 here -NEHGR, I note that the Hotten list was published in 1874. Both give the name of the person who made the list at the end, "John Porter, Deputy clerk to Edward Thoroughgood." pp. 285-8 His title page also states, specifically, that his are from manuscripts in the PRO. Do we trust Hotten to not have copied from Somerby?

I see some small differences between the two lists, mainly in spelling and abbreviations, but Hotten does not footnote that Joseph "Hall" was actually Joseph "Hull" as the Somerby list does.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Hotten's introduction is careful to reject some published lists. Robert Charles Anderson says this in his foreword to the NEHGS edition of Hotten:

"Despite the passage of more than a century, and despite the publication of several more versions of some of these records in the intervening years, this volume by Hotten remains the best source for seventeenth-century passenger records, and should be preferred to all others." https://shop.americanancestors.org/products/the-original-lists-of-persons-of-quality-1600-to-1700

I doubt that Hotten was influenced by Somerby's publication. In the absence of consulting the originals, I think Hotten's is the preferable account.

posted by Andrew Millard