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Working on Pre-1500 Irish profiles.

Vision

To provide a standardized categorization of all major Irish genealogy sources for interconnecting profiles of recorded Irish Nobility and their families on Wikitree.

Proposed Hypothesis

1. Establish as a secondary source. any published Academic text. This would include all books, texts, charts, tables etc, as defined below.
2. Create Sub-Categories for sources - date range (see below Categories for Sources.

Background

1. Medieval Irish Writings There are three basic formats of medieval Irish writings. Genealogies, Annals, and Other.
   1. Genealogies: Ireland has the largest extant collection of medieval genealogies of any country in Europe. The reason for this is mainly due to the wealth of written material required by historic Irish law (Brehon law) for the precondition to be elected and ascend to kingship and/or Clan leader. The Irish genealogies of the principal families were most faithfully preserved in ancient Ireland. Each king and chief had in his household a Shanachy or historian, whose duty it was to keep a written record of all the ancestors and of the several branches of the family.^[1]
   2. Annals At the same time, a second group of scribes (mostly monks) were recording events on a yearly basis. These recordings are known as the Irish Annals
   3. Other Encompass a wide range of genres, from epics and sagas to religious, historical, legal, and scholarly works, as well as lyric poetry and translations. Most of these have little genealogic information. These writings can provide background information on peoples, clans, and events not covered in the Annals or Genealogies.

Note: Ireland was the first country in western Europe to adopt a system of surnames – [starting] by the mid-10th century, at the latest..^[2]

Types of profiles - cultural groups

1. Gaelic Irish From pre-history These will be the most common group of peoples you will find in Ireland. They are organized on Wikitree by Irish Kingdoms (by geography) and Irish Clans (by blood line).

2. Norse/Viking From 795 - (aka "Dark Foreigners"^[3], aka "Fair Foreigners^[4]") Kingdoms: Dublin, Limerick and Waterford - Port towns: Wexford, and Cork.

3, Norman Irish aka Hiberno-Normans From 1170 Richard (Clare) de Clare (abt.1130-abt.1176), Theobald (FitzWalter) Butler (abt.1165-bef.1206), William (Burgh) de Burgh (abt.1158-bef.1206), Maurice FitzGerald (1100-1177) They are organized on Wikitree in Norman invasion of Ireland category and Hiberno-Normans, Irish Nobility category

Types of Pre-1500 Sources

1. Annals (Primary sources)
   1. The Irish Annals are a collection of medieval chronicles that document the history of Ireland. They contain records under successive years of the deaths of kings and other prominent persons, both ecclesiastical and lay, along with accounts of battles, plagues, etc. The Annals were recorded during the time of the event or transcribed from papers that were. They end with the death of Hugh O'Neill, earl of Tyrone, in 1616. You can find a list location at Map of Irish Annals locations
2. Academic texts (Secondary sources) Historic genealogy books, modern day books and published papers that are peered reviewed and/or peer referenced in the peers published works. Academics and historians have been studying, analyzing, organizing, and listing the genealogy lines and family group relations for well over 1,000 years. A short list can be found at Ireland, genealogy and Ireland, History. Chiefly of four types:
   1. Patrilineage "Single-line pedigrees" trace an individual’s ancestry back through a paternal line, Examples: Rawlinson B 502, O'Hart's Irish Pedigrees: ...,
   2. Croeba coibnesa, "branches of relationship", that detail the side-branches of a family down through the generations. Mac Fhirbhisigh's Leabhar na nGenealach, Debrett's Peerage,
   3. Patrilineage croeba coibnesa follow paternal only of family branches. Examples: Jaski tables and book^[5], The Laud Genealogies and Byrne, book with tables^[6]
   4. Biographical Keating's General History of Ireland, DICTIONARY OF IRISH BIOGRAPHY. A Compendium of Irish Biograohy - Alfred Webb

1. Non-Academic texts (Tertiary sources) These books and web-sites can be a great source for background information and leads for Primary and Secondary sources, but should not be used as the only source to to create a profile, Examples: Family history books, Clan Web sites, Wikipedia, Wikidata,

Notes to myself - (Geinealaighe Fearmanch by Cormac Ua Cadhla (circa 1600's) Gen. Mcmaghnusa Tire Tuath (annotated) by Roderick Flaherty, (c1600's) O'Clery's Book of Genealogies Mac Firbis's Book of Genealogies, copied by Semus Maghuidhir in 1715/1716. An Leabhar Laighneach agus Connachtach compiled by Richard Tippires (1719))

• 1,The spelling of names may be different between Annals depending on the version of Irish language used.
• 2,

Categories for Sources

• Sub-Categories To be created under Ireland, Sources category for their date range.
  • Ireland, Pre-1500
  • Ireland, 1500-1700
  • Ireland, Post-1700
  • Ireland, Family Names

Pages of Sources

• Free Space Pages of sources should be Categorized by date range.

Where to Start

If you're working on Gaelic Irish It is not advisable to start with the Annals alone, to create a new profile. Because of the preferred naming patterns of the Irish, there can be many of the same son m father m grandfather listed for different family lines.

If you're working on Norse/Viking

If you're working on Norman Irish

Minimum Requirements to create a Pre-1500 Irish Profile

• 1 Primary source or 1 secondary source that references a connection to a profile with primary source,
• Birth and death dates and locations,

Sources

1. ↑ Joyce, Patrick W - A Concise History of Ireland 1910 #30
2. ↑ O Muraile, Nollaig "Medieval Sources for Irish Genealogical Research"
3. ↑ FMG Ireland Dublin
4. ↑ Downham, C. (2007) Viking Kings of Britain and Ireland (Dunedin), pp. xvi-xx
5. ↑ Jaski Bart, Early Irish Kingship Succession, Published by Four Courts Press, 2013, ISBN 1846824265 ISBN 9781846824265
6. ↑ Byrne, Francis Irish Kings and High-Kings (London 1973)

See also:

• How To-Wikipedia and Wikidata
• Irish_genealogy - Wikipedia
• MAURICE GLEESON – USING DNA TO CONNECT TO YOUR IRISH ROOTS (referencing Bart Jaski)
• University College Cork (referencing Bart Jaski)
• CREATING THE PAST: THE EARLY IRISH GENEALOGICAL TRADITION, CARROLL LECTURE 1992, DONNCHADH Ó CORRÁIN
• GENEALOGY (Medieval Ireland)
• wikipedia - Irish genealogy
• the Book of Leinster and Rawlinson MS B.502
• Wikipedia:History of the Irish language
• Wikipedia List of Irish historians