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Robert Ryves (Reve) of Dorset

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Date: 22 Mar 2020
Location: Englandmap
Surnames/tags: Ryves Reve
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The goal of this project is to ... Find the parents of Robert Ryves born around 1490. Right now this project has two members.

Here are some of the tasks that I think need to be done. I'll be working on them, and could use your help.

  • Visiting places that keep documents that are not available online
  • Transcribing the documents
  • Figuring out exactly who his father was

Robert Ryves is related to |Thomas Reve of London, gent.

Things to use in reference to the records:

|Will Transcription

|Will Index

John Ryves Dorset

https://sites.rootsweb.com/~fordingtondorset/Files2/DorchesterWills-Charters1500.html

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/a7a400fe-69ba-4404-ace3-28195ca02179

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/2284d593-786b-4cbd-8745-888cd1ca5c63

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7499880

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C5521945

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7488336

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/5b3e41ca-a73b-4d3e-9628-19d1bc7fd5cf

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8920310

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/d09a8420-31f5-4ea8-a7e5-7da4b25414a6

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/a60bdb69-684e-47ea-828f-49babdd31a50

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3540182

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/b8aeb972-8a20-4697-99ef-416927f223e7

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7498079

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7479196

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/49065b04-ebed-445a-b897-7b85b77f07c0

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/b4665a07-0582-4686-9135-6e059ef8c019

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/42540fba-b9ed-49a1-b67a-c3b0be8fdf08

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/710db976-f74a-43cf-a8c2-0f84f372daa1


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3760149


[1]8. William Aden (Adyn) alias Barbett or (Barbette) or (Barbour) (8) According to David Underdown in his book 'Fire from Heaven', the Adyn family occupied civic offices in Dorchester more or less in rotation but took little part in the affairs of the County. The family also used the surname 'Barbette' which the Municipal Records also record as 'Barbour'. We know from Charters in the Municipal Records that both William and Robert Adyn were the sons of John & Edith Adyn of Dorchester. Their father left a Will dated 25 June 1546 (Charter 641 - proved 11 May 1547) which bequeathed 2 properties in Dorchester, one on the north side of the high street to Robert and one at Durnlane to his widow Edith for her life and then to William. Charter (No.662) states that William Adyn was a gentleman, and a woollen draper by trade, and that he purchased a dwelling house on the west side of High South Street in Dorchester on 27 Oct 1565, the year he was bailiff of Dorchester. He was also bailiff in 1563 & 1577. The property came with 7 acres of land lying within the west walls of the borough, and 7 acres of meadow lying together in the West ward next to the great bridge (called New Bridge) and on the north side of the stream. He also represented Dorchester in Parliament in 1571, the last person to do so for 30 years. He is said to have married Mary Ryves the daughter of John Ryves and Amy Harvey abt 1556. The latter are listed in the 1623 visitation of Dorset (p.80), but I cannot see a daughter Mary. There is no doubt that he was closely involved with the Ryves family however as under Charter 645 the widow Joan Ryves leaves him property in Dorchester where it states for the intimate love and special zeal she bears to William Aden, alias vocatus William Barbet, of Dorchester, draper". He certainly married as the pedigree for the Hayne family of Dorchester shows that a daughter of his, Cicely, married Oliver the son of Richard Hayne (d.1570) a mercer of Dorchester. Olivers death was recorded in William Whiteways diary (p.49) on 13th Dec 1622.


Fol. [138] 128. 643. Charter of Robert Aden, made to Edith Aden.

Robert Barbet, alias dictus Robert Aden, of Dorchester, draper (reciting that Queen Mary, by letters patent under the Great Seal, inter cetera, granted to |Thomas Reve and Giles Isham, gentleman, and their heirs, 23rd July, second year of her reign [1554], a messuage and garden adjacent, in Dorchester, formerly in the tenure of Roger Bond, and afterwards in that of Robert Snellynge, between the tenement of William Palmer on the east and that of John Peryn on the west, late parcel of the lands and possessions of Thomas Seymor, Knight, Lord Seymor of Sudeley, attainted of high treason, and before of the late Preceptory or Hospital of Mayne, to hold of the Queen as of the manor of Easte Grenewiche, by fealty only in free socage, and not in capite, and that the said Thomas Reve and Giles Isham have sold the same to Robert Barbet aforesaid) now sells the said messuage and garden to his mother, Edith Barbet, alias dicta Edith Aden, and her heirs, containing in length, viz., from the back door [postico] in the south part of the messuage to a certain hedge of elder (sepem sambuceam), 340 feet by measure, and in length 30 feet by measure. Warranty. William Stone, jun., and John Howell to deliver seisin. 24th November, I and 2 Philip and Mary [1554]. (Cf. 644.)

Fol. [139] 129. 645. Charter of Joan Ryve, made to William Aden.

Joan Ryve, of Blandford Forum, Dorset, widow, late relict of Robert Ryve, of the same, deceased, in her pure widowhood for the intimate love and special zeal she bears to William Aden, alias vocatus William Barbet, of Dorchester, draper, etc., grants to him and his heirs two messuages in Dorchester, (i) One in St. Peter's parish, now in the separate tenure of John Dowredge, on the west side of High South Street, between the burgage of John Stratford on the south and that of John Peryn on the north ; and (2) the other in All Saints' parish, in the separate tenure of John Baunton, on the south side of High East Street, between the burgage of Walter Buclond on the east and that belonging to the parish church of All Saints on the west, to hold of the chief lords of the fee. Warranty. William Stone, jun., and John Howell to deliver seisin. 4th June, 3 and 4 Philip and Mary [1557]. [Cf. 623.)

The Aden (Adyn) family went by aliases Barbet/Barbett/Barbette and Barbour.


https://www.northamptonshirewills.solutions.on-rev.com/search.irev

PCC REG COODE PROB 11/33

Will of OLIVER, Robert of London 1550

"Item I give to the poor parishioners and householders of Blandford Forum in the county of Dorset where I was born forty shillings to be distributed and given at the oversight of my brother Olyver, Mr. Reve, William Pytte [Pitt] and Peter Cowper, parishioners there where as most need shall require"

"Item I will that there be made four several sermons in the church of Blandford aforesaid for the setting forth of God's glory and the edifying of the congregration there on four several Sundays next after my death, that is to say, for every Sunday one by some godly preacher or preachers to be named and appointed by my brother, Mr Reve, William Pytte and Peter Cowper, to which preacher or preachers for the same four sermons so to be made I give 26s 8d."

Peter Cowper in the will above goes by alias Peter Monsell. The same Peter in the will of Johan Ryve, the wife of Robert Ryves (Reve).


Records of the family Robert Ryves (Reve) comes from (someone please order these):

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ff1d801a-9f39-4e96-b4f8-e4c9783ca72e

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/a54e3440-8554-4099-a9db-3d2ec7426e4c

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/506de355-ef09-4e79-8ac3-3297739b3ddc

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/2a7e9bd3-c03b-4f3d-8122-674f573e9646


Records of Possible Reve Relatives breaking into branches:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7443725

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7439357

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/3d729e19-7c0d-4153-bdda-43be8465f8da

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ca12957e-4cb2-4b7a-a293-8f2617ca54ea

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C5706561 - Maybe

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7490797

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7466820 - Maybe

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/875a9d17-e853-4212-8ce8-1246c06b2459

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/04dd53d9-5b83-46f4-86e9-92200f72bcc8

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9248180 - Likely

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9266152 - Likely

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3978573 - Likely

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/7e2d0583-3a9f-4be3-8cbf-f155605aaa76

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/060388e2-ae39-42be-b2b3-a9b92f442f47

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/2010a5c2-6a4a-4d02-aa32-3c35d45fc1b2

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/61ea40b3-0397-40e5-b600-7ab93a377606

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/9109730d-12ee-4a2b-83ec-bac6321eff09

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/132c69a4-ddb4-45b1-a1bc-f208cb8bd509

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/a7e4aea0-935a-4c2b-af3f-c3095ce8d9c2

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/7a414383-5746-48ed-8b65-e772e8af58d7

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/b4beeb52-a878-4b1a-8dc3-5c386e17c8fd - Very Likely

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/d745aacc-35d4-45b7-bb7a-d0454d7f9348

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/83a0b1e3-7569-4a4d-adc3-8f0d9f2e2654 - Likely

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/c112abd1-2366-44dd-b0fa-cec5dae34c2a

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D978050


Websites for online researching

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/


The following has been searched:

Discovery National Archives with the filters; All of these words: Robert Reve, Date Range: 1400 - 1499

Discovery National Archives with the filters; All of these words: Reve, Date Range: 1500 - 1599

British History Online with the filters; Keywords: "Thomas Reve", Period: 16th Century


Things currently needing investigation:

“In 1521, a John Ryves, curate of Dunster was granted the lease of the Chantry of the Holy Trinity in the parish church, with the benefit of its profits, on the condition that he maintained the Chantry House and provided an ‘honest chaplain’ to say mass for the founders and benefactors” – Dunster Castle Records, vol. no. xvii.


What is known

Robert Ryves (birth name Reve) comes from a very religious family. As we can see in Robert's will he was very religious. In his friends will Robert Oliver of London he is very religious and mentions he wants to distribute shillings to parishioners including Robert Ryves. He also mentions he wants Robert Ryves to appoint preachers. One of his proven Reve relative is |Thomas Reve of London, gent. In Robert's |Will Index it suggests he was living in Chudleigh. The Ryves (Reve) family was closely involved with the Aden (Adyn) family aliases Barbet/Barbett/Barbette and Barbour. The Reves' and Barbours' can be found in the same records in the 15th century and no doubt this is the family Robert Ryves (Reve) is from.


Will you join me? Please post a comment here on this page, in G2G using the project tag, or send me a private message. Thanks!

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