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1 Apparent confusion over 11th great grandparents and the Shelley Baronets
2 Connection to the NZ Prime Ministers
3 Notable Figures
4 Research Statistics
5 Wikitree Relation table

Apparent confusion over 11th great grandparents and the Shelley Baronets


What I know	What others suggest
Regarding the parentage of both Richard Shelley and Margaret Linet... While records are available and have been able to narrow down the date range of their respective existences.	Other researchers do not know who his parents are
Having observed the proximity of the two main Shelley branches (our blacksmith line and the aristocratic line) in date and location, I am of the belief that somewhere there may be a common ancestor. (As a Shelley, I regularly get asked about relation to the Percy's. I also have no possible claim to the titles)	I have seen false lineages which have Richard as a son of John Shelley and Jane Reresby which is false because according to the reliable avenues of information, the pair only had two sons; William and John (John while marrying did not have children).
It appears that the name of Richard's father is John. From what I have seen so far it looks like the probable birth year for this John is around 1590.	Another claim I have seen is that Richard is a son of John Shelley and Mary Fitzwilliam but is clearly is false due to the high age gap between parents and theorized son.
Margaret's parents are a general unknown, although there are suggestions are that Philip Linet (also don't know whether the spelling is with one "t" or two or whether it is one "n" or two). and Margaret Barker are her parents	It is said that Margaret Barker had immigrated to the US before she passed away. One suspicion that I have is that Margaret is being confused with a sister Mary?


Name	Relationship	Title
John Shelley (? - 1644)	Pending connection	1st Baronet of Michelgrove
Charles Shelley (? - 1681)	Pending connection	2nd Baronet of Michelgrove
John Shelley (1662 - 1703)	Pending connection	3rd Baronet of Michelgrove
John Shelley (1692 - 1771)	Pending connection	4th Baronet of Michelgrove
John Shelley (1730 - 1783)	Pending connection	5th Baronet of Michelgrove
John Shelley (1772 - 1852)	Pending connection	6th Baronet of Michelgrove
John Shelley (1808 - 1867)	Pending connection	7th Baronet of Michelgrove
Frederic Shelley (1809 - 1869)	Pending connection	8th Baronet of Michelgrove
John Shelley (1848 - 1931)	Pending connection	9th Baronet of Michelgrove
John Shelley (1884 - 1976)	Pending connection	10th Baronet of Michelgrove
John Shelley (1943 - )	Pending connection	11th Baronet of Michelgrove


Name	Relationship	Title
Bysshe Shelley (1731 - 1815)	Pending connection	1st Baronet of Castle Goring
John Shelley (1771 - 1849)	Pending connection	1st Baronet of Penshurst Place
Timothy Shelley (1753 - 1844)	Pending connection	2nd Baronet of Castle Goring
Phillip Shelley Sidney (1800 - 1851)	Pending connection	2nd Baronet of Penshurst Place
Percy Shelley (1819 - 1889)	Pending connection	3rd Baronet of Castle Goring
Phillip Sidney (1828 - 1898)	Pending connection	3rd Baronet of Penshurst Place
Edward Shelley (1827 - 1890)	Pending connection	4th Baronet of Castle Goring
Phillip Sidney (1853 - 1922)	Pending connection	4th Baronet of Penshurst Place
Charles Shelley (1835 - 1902)	Pending connection	5th Baronet of Castle Goring
Algernon Sidney (1854 - 1945)	Pending connection	5th Baronet of Penshurst Place
John Shelley-Rolls (1871 - 1951)	Pending connection	6th Baronet of Castle Goring
William Sidney (1859 - 1945)	Pending connection	6th Baronet of Penshurst Place
Percy Shelley (1872 - 1953)	Pending connection	7th Baronet of Castle Goring
Sidney Shelley (1880 - 1965)	Pending connection	8th Baronet of Castle Goring
William Sidney (1909 - 1991)	Pending connection	9th Baronet of Castle Goring, 7th Baronet of Penshurst Place
Phillip Sidney (1945 - )	Pending connection	10th Baronet of Castle Goring, 8th Baronet of Penshurst Place

Connection to the NZ Prime Ministers


Name	Relationship	Short Description
Jacinda Ardern (1980 - )	17 Degrees	40th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Harry Atkinson (1831 - 1892)	20 degrees	10th Premier of New Zealand
John Ballance (1839 - 1893)	21 degrees	14th Premier of New Zealand
Francis Bell (1851 - 1936)	17th Cousin 4x Removed/18 degrees	20th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Jim Bolger (1935 - )	21 degrees	35th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Helen Clark (1950 - )	23 degrees	37th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Joseph Coates (1878 - 1943)	19 degrees	21st Prime Minister of New Zealand
Alfred Domett (1811 - 1887)	17 degrees	4th Premier of New Zealand
Bill English (1961 - )	Not Connected	39th Prime Minister of New Zealand
George Forbes (1869 - 1947)	12 degrees	22nd Prime Minister of New Zealand
William Fox (1812 - 1893)	27 Degrees	2nd Premier of New Zealand
Peter Fraser (1884 - 1950)	23 degrees	24th Prime Minister of New Zealand
George Grey (1812 - 1898)	15 degrees	11th Premier of New Zealand
John Hall (1824 - 1907)	19 degrees	12th Premier of New Zealand
William Hall-Jones (1851 - 1936)	24 degrees	16th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Sidney Holland (1893 - 1961)	11 degrees	25th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Keith Holyoake (1904 - 1983)	15 degrees	26th Prime Minister of New Zealand
John Key (1961 - )	37 degrees	38th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Norman Kirk (1923 - 1974)	19 degrees	29th Prime Minister of New Zealand
David Lange (1942 - 2005)	14 degrees	32nd Prime Minister of New Zealand
Thomas Mackenzie (1854 - 1930)	17 degrees	18th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Jack Marshall (1912 - 1988)	22 degrees	28th Prime Minister of New Zealand
William Massey (1856 - 1925)	18 degrees	19th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Mike Moore (1949 - 2020)	19 degrees	34th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Robert Muldoon (1921 - 1992)	21 degrees	31st Prime Minister of New Zealand
Walter Nash (1882 - 1968)	13 degrees	27th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Geoffrey Palmer (1942 - )	14 degrees	33rd Prime Minister of New Zealand
Daniel Pollen (1813 - 1896)	22 degrees	9th Premier of New Zealand
Jenny Shipley (1952 - )	17 Degrees	36th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Wallace Rowling (1927 - 1995)	12 degrees	30th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Michael Savage (1872 - 1940)	22 degrees	23rd Prime Minister of New Zealand
Richard Seddon (1845 - 1906)	21 degrees	15th Prime Minister of New Zealand
Henry Sewell (1807 - 1879)	24 degrees	1st Premier of New Zealand
Edward Stafford (1819 - 1901)	15 degrees	3rd Premier of New Zealand
Robert Stout (1844 - 1930)	18 degrees	13th Premier of New Zealand
Julius Vogel (1835 - 1899)	22 degrees	8th Premier of New Zealand
Joseph Ward (1856 - 1930)	19 degrees	17th Prime Minister of New Zealand
George Waterhouse (1824 - 1906)	19 degrees	7th Premier of New Zealand
Hugh Watt (1912 - 1980)	20 degrees	Acting Prime Minister (following death of Norman Kirk)
Frederick Weld (1823 - 1891)	10th Cousin 5x Removed/16 degrees	6th Premier of New Zealand
Frederick Whitaker (1812 - 1891)	21 degrees	5th Premier of New Zealand

Notable Figures


Name	Relationship	Short Description
Frederick Simon Every (1804 - 1888)	4x Great Grandfather	Invented the chimney sweeper
James Edward Fulton (1854 - 1928)	1st Cousin 4x Removed	Surveyor, Engineer
Dr. Robert Valpy Fulton FRMetS (1865 - 1924)	1st Cousin 4x Removed	Surgeon, Cyclist
Julius Herbert Fulton (1901 - 1973)	2nd cousin 3x removed	One of the two founders of the Fulton Hogan construction company
Edward Michael (Bear) Grylls (1974 - )	12th Cousin 3x Removed	British adventurer, writer and television presenter
Dr Julius Jeffreys FRS (1800 - 1877)	4x great grand uncle	Invented the respirator
Nicholas Mosley (1923 - 2017)	5th Cousin 2x Removed	Author
Max Rufus Mosley (1940 - )	5th Cousin 2x Removed	Former Racing Driver, President of FIA
Percy Bysshe Shelley (1792 - 1822)	14th Cousin 5x Removed	Poet
Percy Florence Shelley (1819 - 1889)	15th Cousin 4x Removed	Poet
William Phillip Sidney (1909 - 1991)	13th Cousin 1x removed	Governor General of Australia, WWII Veteran, VC recipient
Richard Valpy DD (1754 - 1836)	5x Great Grandfather	Schoolmaster, Author

Research Statistics

**My Ancestors Research Statistics**
		BY GENERATION
Gen. No.	Relation to Richard	Total Possible Profiles	On Wikitree	Created
1	Self	1	1	1
2	Parent	2	2	2
3	Grandparent	4	4	4
4	Great Grandparent	8	8	8
5	2nd Great Grandparent	16	16	16
6	3rd Great Grandparent	32	31 (96.88%)	?
7	4th Great Grandparent	64	42 (65.63%)	?
8	5th Great Grandparent	126(-2)*	47 (37.3%)	?
9	6th Great Grandparent	252(-4)*	36 (14.29%)	?
10	7th Great Grandparent	504(-8)*	37 (7.34%)	?
11	8th Great Grandparent	1008(-16)*	25 (2.48%)	?

Wikitree Relation table

Connection via relation


Profile	Connection to me	Notes
Barrie McBride	Grandfather	N/A
Noela McBride	Grandmother	N/A
Heather Fleet	3rd Cousin 1x Removed
Rebecca James	4th Cousin*
Janet Doyle	4th Cousin 1x Removed
Jana Hayes	4th Cousin 1x Removed
Alana Wilson	4th Cousin 1x Removed
Christine Allan-Johns	4th Cousin 2x Removed
Wendy Hoye	4th Cousin 2x Removed
Ann Littlejohn	4th Cousin 2x Removed
Neil Smith	4th Cousin 2x Removed
Andrew Cunningham	5th Cousin 1x Removed
Kathryn Mooney	5th Cousin 1x Removed
Stephanie Smith	5th Cousin 1x Removed
Amy Utting	6th Cousin
Anita Cochrane	6th cousin 1x removed {implied}*	*Calculation based upon profiles and associated LNAB tags
Patrick Hadow	6th Cousin 1x Removed	A connection between Patrick and John still needs to be made
Sir Ralph Wedgwood	6th Cousin 1x Removed
Carlina Ridgeway	7th Cousin
Gail Flint	7th Cousin 1x Removed
Susan Flint	7th Cousin 1x Removed
John Craycroft	7th Cousin 2x Removed
David Torrey	9th Cousin
Janet Gunn	9th Cousin 2x Removed
Scott Hutchins	11th Cousin 1x Removed
Robert Ward	14th Cousin 3x Removed
Stuart Sutton	17th Cousin 1x Removed
Elizabeth Shaw	17th Cousin 1x removed (uncertain)
Loretta Black	17th Cousin 2x Removed	Account now closed
Helena Blomfield	18th Cousin
Julie Ricketts	18th Cousin 1x removed
Marsha Turner	18th Cousin 1x removed
Gail Gray	21st Cousin 1x Removed (Uncertain)
Julie Guthrie	19th Cousin	Account now closed
Maggie N.	20th Cousin 1x Removed
Josiah White	21st Cousin 1x removed
Jessica Gannon	25th Cousin

Connection via degrees


Profile	Connection to me	Notes
Fiona Gilliver	12 degrees	NZ Project member
Janine Balistreri	27 degrees
Margaret Allison	15 degrees	NZ Project member

Connection Statistics

'*' +1, with no further guessing on potential size of family
'**' Dependent on a potential relationship change
'***' A lot of unknowns now with assumptions of no siblings to could with predictions


Step No.	Current Number of associated profiles	Total Number of associated profiles	Percentage of associated profiles	Details / Notes	Current Total Profiles	Total Profiles
0	1	1	100%	This is me. There is no one else	1	1
1	3	6*	60%	Brother and parents, two missing siblings, partner (when it gets to that)	4	7
2	8	10**	80%	One missing sibling and a family partner maximum 6 year wait until connectivity	12	17
3	28	36+	88.88%	Assuming accurate memory of 2 siblings	40	53
4	83***	98+	84.69%	All percentages from this step onwards to cutoff step are estimates according to exponential addition of unknown figures	123	151
5	190***	239	79.49%	?	313	390
6	?	?%	?	?	?	?
7	?	?%	?	?	?	?
8	?	?%	?	?	?	?
9	?	?%	?	?	?	?
10	?	?%	?	?	?	?

Degree 1


Name	Notes	Association type
James	Addition of partner pending on relationship change	Biological/Marriage
Mum	The twins?, Addition of third son 6 years away	Biological/Marriage
Dad	The twins?	Biological
Unknown Partner	Classified	Classified

Degree 2


Name	Notes	Association type
Zara	Profile addition pending on relationship change	Relationship to sibling
Nik	6 years until readdition of child	Biological
Daniel	6 years until profile can be recreated	Biological/Marriage
Sean	No further additions	Biological
Nana	No further additions	Biological
Barrie	No further additions	Biological
Gran	No further additions	Biological
Victor	Unknown details of first marriage	Marriage
Kirsten	Unknown birth date of (ex?)husband	Marriage
Ruth	No further additions	Biological

Degree 3


Name	Notes	Association type
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown sibling 1	?	?
Unknown sibling 2	?	?
Allan	?	?
Irene	?	?
Allan	?	?
James	?	?
Ethel	?	?
Roger	?	?
Gordon	?	?
Trevor	?	?
Elizabeth	?	?
Natalie	?	?
Clive	?	?
Brendan	?	?
Raewyn	?	?
Phil	?	?
Horace	?	?
Lydia	?	?
Patricia	?	?
Julia	?	?
Anthony	?	?
Nona	?	?
Frederick	?	?
Ena	?	?
Russell	?	?
Anthony	?	?
Unknown Greening	?	?
Shane	?	?
Sarah	?	?
Amy	?	?
Sophie	?	?
Tamati	?	?
Jedekiah	?	?
Giana	?	?

Degree 4


Name	Notes	Association type
?	?	?
?	?	?

Degree 5


Name	Notes	Association type
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
James	?	?
Margaret	?	?
Helen	?	?
James	?	?
Jens	?	?
Anna	?	?
Mary	?	?
Christina	?	?
Elizabeth	?	?
Marion	?	?
Richard	?	?
Richard	?	?
Mary	?	?
Josephine	?	?
Mary	?	?
Richard	?	?
Ernest	?	?
William	?	?
Penelope	?	?
William	?	?
Ernest	?	?
Evelyn	?	?
Edward	?	?
Leonard	?	?
Frederick	?	?
Percy	?	?
Alice	?	?
Constance	?	?
Unknown Child 1	?	?
Unknown Child 2	?	?
Alwyn	?	?
Unknown Child 1	?	?
Unknown Child 2	?	?
Unknown Child 3	?	?
Ronald	?	?
Keith	?	?
Unknown Child	?	?
Unknown Partner	?	?
Unknown Child 1	?	?
Unknown Child 2	?	?
Unknown Child 3	?	?
Unknown Child 4	?	?
Unknown Child 5	?	?
Unknown Partner	?	?
Unknown Child 1	?	?
Unknown Child 2	?	?
Mervyn	?	?
Unknown Child 3	?	?
Unknown Child 4	?	?
Unknown Partner	?	?
Helen	?	?
Unknown Child 1	?	?
Unknown Child 2	?	?
Unknown Child 3	?	?
Unknown Partner	?	?
Unknown Child	?	?
Unknown Partner	?	?
William	?	?
Betsy	?	?
Margaret	?	?
Martha	?	?
Betsy	?	?
Mary	?	?
William	?	?
John	?	?
Ernest	?	?
Charles	?	?
James	?	?
Helen	?	?
Helen	?	?
Catherine	?	?
Andrew	?	?
Jemima	?	?
James	?	?
Henry	?	?
Madge	?	?
Thelma	?	?
Thomas	?	?
Harriet	?	?
Ann	?	?
William	?	?
Louisa	?	?
Thomas	?	?
Henrietta	?	?
Stephen	?	?
Philip	?	?
Charles	?	?
Alfred	?	?
Harriet	?	?
John	?	?
Rose	?	?
Elizabeth	?	?
John	?	?
George	?	?
Ernest	?	?
Charlotte	?	?
Herbert	?	?
Leonard	?	?
Edith	?	?
Alfred	?	?
Margaret	?	?
George	?	?
Jane	?	?
Thelma	?	?
Edna	?	?
Raymond	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Kevin	?	?
George	?	?
Anne	?	?
Reginald	?	?
George	?	?
Arthur	?	?
Herbert	?	?
Lilian	?	?
Anne	?	?
Frederick	?	?
John	?	?
Eliza	?	?
Eliza	?	?
James	?	?
John	?	?
Emma	?	?
Amelia	?	?
Lelia	?	?
Marion	?	?
Joan	?	?
Unknown Child	?	?
Eileen	?	?
Nola	?	?
Walter	?	?
Unknown Child 1	?	?
Unknown Child 2	?	?
Hans	?	?
Anne	?	?
Maren	?	?
Mathias	?	?
Anne	?	?
Jorgen	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Hans	?	?
Oliver	?	?
Robert	?	?
George	?	?
George	?	?
George	?	?
Lilian	?	?
Betty	?	?
Bruce	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Norman	?	?
Elsie	?	?
Unknown Partner	?	?
Daphne	?	?
James	?	?
Alice	?	?
James	?	?
Henry	?	?
Ernest	?	?
Walter	?	?
Harold	?	?
Robert	?	?
Edith	?	?
Frederick	?	?
Abigail	?	?
William	?	?
Florence	?	?
Margaret	?	?
Sue	?	?
Christopher	?	?
Grace	?	?
Sarah	?	?
Benjamin	?	?
Ruth	?	?
Susan	?	?
Ruth	?	?
Alfred	?	?
Elwyn	?	?
Lynnell	?	?
Alan	?	?
Frederick	?	?
Robert	?	?
Eric	?	?
Percival	?	?
Eric	?	?
June	?	?
Unknown Child	?	?
Noel	?	?
Anthony	?	?
Helen	?	?
Unknown Child 1	?	?
Unknown Child 2	?	?
Unknown Child 3	?	?
Unknown Partner	?	?
Maxine	?	?
Edward	?	?
Joycelyn	?	?
Unknown Partner	?	?
Arthur	?	?
Margaret	?	?
Unknown Sibling 1	?	?
Unknown Sibling 2	?	?
Unknown Sibling 3	?	?
Unknown Partner	?	?
Glenn	?	?
Unknown Child 1	?	?
Unknown Child 2	?	?
Gregory	?	?
Tahnee	?	?
Unknown Child	?	?
Lardi	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?
Unknown Father	?	?
Unknown Mother	?	?

Degree 6


Name	Notes	Association type
?	?	?
?	?	?

Degree 7


Name	Notes	Association type
?	?	?
?	?	?

Degree 8


Name	Notes	Association type
?	?	?
?	?	?

Degree 9


Name	Notes	Association type
?	?	?
?	?	?

Degree 10


Name	Notes	Association type
?	?	?
?	?	?

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Susan Flint

Hello Richard...just checking in. After searching for Blanchards, I found you through George Blanchard's profile (Blanchard-6628). We are both descendants of John Blanchard (Blanchard- 232) and Mary Tilson(Tilson-279) making us 7th cousins once removed.

Regards, Susan (Flint-1284)