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Thistle
When asked the question, is Thistle the same ship as Thistle of Glasgow, Ellen replied as follows.
The name of the ship probably was just "Thistle," not "Thistle of Glasgow." Most of the time, the arrival registrars recorded the ship only by its name (which in this case could be "Thistle"), but sometimes the registrar added the name of the ship's home port (such as "Thistle of Glasgow") or a word for the type of ship (such as "Pink Mary" or "Winter Galley" -- pinks and galleys being types of ships). It can be hard to tell what the actual name of the ships were and what words are additional information.Some of the same ship names appear several times in the Philadelphia records. When the same ship name appears two or more years in a row, Strassburger and Hinke thought they were likely to be the same ship, but it's also possible that the same name was applied to more than one ship -- particularly when there are gaps of more than between two arrivals of a particular ship name. Proof that there could be two ships with the same name is that two ships named "Neptune" carried migrants to Philadelphia in September 1751!
Literature
- They Came from Germany, Aboard the Thistle, Rev. James R. Hawk, ebook, 206 pages, English, Lulu Publishing Services, Feb 18, 2016, ISBN 9781483446400.
- The Wolfensberger Family Association, an account of the 1730 journey by Dr. Fritz Braun.
Journeys
Below is the start of a still very incomplete list of The Thistle of Glasgow journeys. Please feel encouraged to update, amend or correct the information, should you be able to - or simply leave a comment.
Year | Departure | From | To | Arrival | Passengers |
1730 | Jun 1730 | Rotterdam, Netherlands | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania | 29 August 1730 | Category:Thistle of Glasgow, Arrived 29 August 1730 |
1738 | Jun 1738 | Rotterdam, Netherlands | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania | 19 September 1738 | Category: Thistle, Arrived 19 Sep 1738 |
Passenger Lists
- Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild, Ship Thistle of Glasgow, Rotterdam, Netherlands to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 29 August 1730, https://www.immigrantships.net/v2/1700v2/thistle17300829.html , accessed 24 Feb 2024.
- Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild, Ship Thistle of Glasgow, Rotterdam, Netherlands to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 29 August 1730, https://immigrantships.net/v4/1700v4/thistle17300829.html , accessed 24 Feb 2024
- The Olive Tree, Ship Thistle of Glasgow, Rotterdam, Netherlands to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 29 August 1730, https://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/palship41.shtml , accessed 24 Feb 2024.
- Wikitree, Ship Thistle of Glasgow, Rotterdam, Netherlands to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 29 August 1730, a study of the passenger list, https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/b/bb/Leaman-41.pdf , accessed 24 Feb 2024.
- New Horizons Genealogy, Pennsylvania Immigrants, Passengers aboard the Ship Thistle of Glasgow Who Took the Oath of Allegiance August 29, 1730, https://newhorizonsgenealogicalservices.com/pennsylvania-genealogy/oath-of-allegiance_1727-1808/ship_thistle_glasgow_1730.htm , accessed 24 Feb 2024.
- ProGenealogists, The Palatine Project, https://web.archive.org/web/20111115153238/http://www.progenealogists.com/palproject/pa/1730thisle.htm