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Genealogical Summary for Robert Harley (abt.1286-1349):

Robert Harley, son of Richard and Burga (Willey) Harley, was born about 1286.[1] He married Margaret Brampton in 1302.[2] Their sons were born later,[1] after Margaret reached maturity (she was born in 1293).[3] Robert "died of the black death in 1349".[4]
Their sons included Robert Harley, who married Joan Corbet, and Sir Brian Harley, Knt., who married Alianora.[5]

from further down, but soon to be edited because there's something weird with the dates....

Sir Brian Harley, Knt., and Robert Harley - sons of "Robert de Harley, Kt., 16 Ed. 3" and Margaret - married "Alianora" and Joan, respectively. The record (from the plea rolls) shows that "Joan was the daughter of Robert Corbet, Knight, and was married at Moreton Corbet in 30 E. 3".[5]
Robert Harley and Brian Harley (brothers) married Joane Corbet and Eleanor Corbet (sisters). Another brother, Walter Harley, died without issue.[6]

Revision:

From the plea rolls: Sir Brian Harley, Knt., and Robert Harley - sons of Robert de Harley, Kt., and Margaret - married "Alianora" and Joan, respectively. The record (from the plea rolls) shows that "Joan was the daughter of Robert Corbet, Knight, and was married at Moreton Corbet in 30 E. 3".[5] Note: I think that the "in 30 E. 3" may be referring to the date of the suit.

From Maryann: No, it's not the date of the suit. The suit was De Banco at Michaelmas term in 1 Henry IV at Salop. Michaelmas term, until 1641, began 29 or 30 October, and ended 28 or 29 November. 1 Henry IV was 30 September 1399-29 September 1400.
Therefore the court case was in 1399.

30 Edward III was 25 January 1356-24 January 1357. Well, Robert and Joan were married by then.

Here's another court case from the pedigree rolls page 91-2: ... Sir John Ludlow was put out of his manor of Westbury by Ralph, Earl of Stafford, because he refused to perform the service of Hereditary Cook which specified he had to attend at Caus Castle on Christmas Day and stand at the kitchen dresser girded with an apron - ha ha ha!

Back to business: have you seen these fines? they may help?

The court case said a fine was levied in 16 Edward III [25 January 1342-24 January 1343], giving Brian de Harley a life interest in Brompton and Bukton

=>CP 25/1/194/13
number 17. Two weeks from St Hilary, 16 Edward III [27 January 1342]. And afterwards two weeks from Easter in the same year [14 April 1342]. Robert de Harleye, knight, and Margaret, his wife, querents ... The manors of Brompton' and Bukton' ... after the decease of Robert and Margaret the manors shall remain to Brian, son of the same Robert and Margaret, to hold of the chief lords for the life of Brian. And after the decease of Brian the manors shall remain to the heirs of the bodies of Robert and Margaret ...
number 21. Two weeks from St Martin, 17 Edward III [25 November 1343]. And afterwards two weeks from Easter, 18 Edward III [18 April 1344]. Robert de Harleye, knight, and Margaret, his wife, querents ... after the decease of Robert and Margaret the manors shall remain to Brian, son of the same Robert and Margaret, and the heirs of his body, to hold of the chief lords for ever.
=>CP 25/1/190/19
number 3. Two weeks from St Hilary, 16 Edward III [27 January 1342]. And afterwards two weeks from Easter in the same year [14 April 1342]. ... Robert de Harleye, knight, and Margaret, his wife, querents ... after the decease of Robert and Margaret the moiety shall remain to Robert, son of the same Robert and Margaret, Just Robert so maybe not married yet
=>CP 25/1/195/17
number 12. Two weeks from St Michael, 41 Edward III [13 October 1367]. Roger, son of Robert Corbet of Morton' knight, querent, and Robert de Harleye and Joan, his wife, deforciants. ...
number 36. Two weeks from St Hilary, 44 Edward III [27 January 1370] After the decease of Robert, successive remainders (1) to Alice, the wife of Robert, and (2) to Eleanor, who was the wife of Brian de Harleye ... Brian is dead
number 56 Three weeks from St Michael, 49 Edward III [20 October 1375]. And afterwards two weeks from Easter, 50 Edward III [27 April 1376]. Joan, who was the wife of Robert de Harleye, querent, ... Robert is dead
=>CP 25/1/290/58
number 311. 5 May 1398. Joan and John Darras

There are other fines. You might find others of relevance: Abstracts of Feet of Fines: Search.

Joan was "espoused to Robert de Harleye" in 21 Edward III (which is 25 January 1347-24 January 1348), according to the IPM for Beatrice, "late the wife of Peter Corbet of Cans." (Writ, 30 August, 21 Edward III).[7]

21 E. III = 25 January 1347 - 24 January 1348[8]

Profile text of Joane Corbet (abt.1332-aft.1417) - as of 6:30 am 6 September 2022 - was copied into this page, because the Research Notes have grown too complex for a single profile. ~ Noland-165

Brief synopsis of genealogical info:

Joan Corbet of Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England[9]
  1. Sir Robert Harley of Willey, Salop (died 1370)[12] - "Johanna daughter of Robert Corbet vx Rob’ti Harley"[13][11]
  2. John Daras,[13] or Darras, before June 1390 (when he is named in court records concerning a suit involving Alice's inheritance). The inheritance of her daughter Alice Harley, who had married Hamon Peshale c1375, "remained in the possession of her mother and stepfather, John Darras*, who outlived both her [Alice] and her husband. Peshale acted as an executor for his wife’s other uncle, Sir Fulk Corbet, who died in 1382" (Alice was also the niece of Sir Roger Corbet).[14]

The Research Notes were working on sorting out the caution that had been on the profile, which pointed out errors in WIkiTree, suggested additional errors, but did nothing to resolve them. Work underway is intended to correct this family in WikiTree. The Caution section (which was copied to multiple profiles several years ago) is more harmful than helpful at this point and should be deleted when encountered.

Contents

John Darras

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Darras

NOTE - This is a copy of a section from Joan's profile, for reference. Do not edit it here. Instead, edit it at Joane Corbet (abt.1332-aft.1417) & then copy the edited version over this section (if it remains needed on this page).

The biography of her second husband posted by the History of Parliament Online speaks of various relationships.[12] For example:

"Darras’s marriage brought him into close contact with his brother-in-law, Sir Roger Corbet* of Moreton Corbet, and other members of his family. In 1390 they were engaged in disputes with his wife’s niece, Elizabeth, wife of John Mawddwy, lord of Dinas Mawddwy,..."
  • "Roger Corbet*" linked to his HOP profile (died 1395)[15] (Corbet-25 in WikiTree as of 3 September 2022)
  • "wife's niece" Elizabeth is the daughter of Joan's brother Fulco Corbet (6 R 2 = 1382/3)[16]
  • Elizabeth, wife of John Mawddwy
  • Fulco (Corbet-227), father of Elizabeth m Mawddwy

Besford

Use caution with this section... it will probably be cut back on Joan's page, since the SGM posts show that Alexander was NOT Joan's grandson.

Alexander Besford (abt.1319-bef.1403), said to be grandson of Joan Corbet and her first husband Robert de Harley by their daughter Joan (Harley) de Besford (abt.1308-abt.1341), wife of John (Besford) de Besford (abt.1296-aft.1341). Joan Harley & John Besford married before 1334. Dates - per WikiTree profiles as of 3 September 2022 - are a bit of a mess.

Alexander Besford inherited the family property by 1376, when Joan Corbet, relict of Sir Robert Harley of Willey, Shropshire, made a quitclaim to him of certain lands at Pershore and Besford.[17]

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/lTLeZpTrAgc/m/NPSrPN99-HYJ

By 1376, Alexander Besford inherited the family property by 1376, when Joan Corbet, relict of Sir Robert Harley of Willey, Shropshire, made a quitclaim to him of certain lands at Pershore and Besford.[17]

Or not. A 2019 comment on his profile, from Isaac Taylor, notes that, according to "sources #3-5 cited below, we are listing the wrong father for this person. A recap of the fly in the ointment (citing a SGM post):

This Alexander de Besford is thought not to the be the son of John; but rather of his brother, Alexander III:
"To briefly summarize a well documented article in _The Genealogist_ v. 10, no. 1, pp. 35-72, 'Agnes (de Besford) Throckmorton was therefore descended neither from the Harley family of co. Salop nor from the Harley family of co. Worcester." Evidence indicates that Alexander de Besford (b. est. 1325?) was likely son of John de Besford's brother Alexander, thus entirely missing any possible connection to Joan [de Harley?]. Please make a note of it.'"
Note, that would also make this Alexander Besford-2 actually Alexander IV. (Which makes sense.) It also detaches the entire Harley-Corbet line.

And one of the family trees listed as a source on one of the Besford-related profiles had the following information about Alexander Besford & his parents Alexander and Joan (no surname) Besford:[18]

  • Joan, born about 1315 (no surname, death date or parents)
  • Married before 1338,[1] Alexander de Besford, born about 1310 in Besford, Pershore, Worcestershire, England
  • Son Alexander de Besford, born about 1339 in Besford, Pershore, Worcestershire, England. Died 1403.
    • Married 1st: CoHeiress of Rous Lench, born about 1340 in Rous Lench, Evesham, Worcestershire, England.
    • Married before July 1386 (2nd marriage for both) Beatrice de Thorndon, born about 1340 in Thorndon Manor, Pershore, Worcestershire, England. Died 1404.
    • Daughter Agnes de Besford was born about 1360 in Besford, Pershore, Worcestershire, England. Died after 1428.
Note: Wikitree profiles for Beatrice an Agnes are Thornden-1 and Besford-1, respectively.
Note2: The only listed source I recognized on Alexander's entry was "Paul Reed (Reedpcgen), 10 Aug 1998", which seems to match the following SGM post:
  • SGM post by Reedpcgen, 21 August 1998, in the "Grosvenor / Pershale Connection and Line?" thread in the soc.genealogy.medieval Google group (accessed 3 September 2022).
Or maybe this SGM post, which shares the following (when noting that Alexander was the son of Alexander Besford, not the John Besford who married Joan Harley):
  • To briefly summarize a well documented article in _The Genealogist_ v. 10, no. 1, pp. 35-72, "Agnes (de Besford) Throckmorton was therefore descended neither from the Harley family of co. Salop nor from the Harley family of co. Worcester." Evidence indicates that Alexander de Besford (b. est. 1325?) was likely son of John de Besford's brother Alexander, thus entirely missing any possible connection to Joan [de Harley?]. Please make a note of it. ; )
  • The next post continues: "Oh, and should you still be curious, that article contains a decent biography of Robert de Harley. He was not a knight, he did not die in 1359, and was not a victim of the inquisition. It appears he was mentally handicapped, as records call him "fatuus." He was son of Sir Robert de Harley, who died of the Black Death in 1349."

I think that the last is referring to the husband of Joan Corbet. If so, we have three versions of him:

  • Robert de Harley (not "Sir"), per the aforementioned SGM post
  • Sir Robert Harley (d. 1370) of Willey, Salop (his widow Joan, daughter of Sir Robert Corbet of Moreton Corbet, married John Darras before June 1390)[12]
  • Sir Robert Harley of Harley, Salop, by Joan, da. of Sir Robert Corbet† of Moreton Corbet - parents of Alice Harley, wife of Hamon Peshale[14]

From Maryann

Reedpcgen 9 Aug 1998

"This is wrong. It is not accurate. There is no proof that Joan was even a 'de Harley,' and there is no descent from her in the first place. Weis's [Walter Lee Sheppard, the editor's] comments were based on an older article in The Genealogist ["Ravens or Pelicans"] which was superceded by the article I made reference to. pcr"

An article which he, Paul C Reed, also wrote. Anyway, I don't have access to The Genealogist but perhaps this ancient deed is the issue?

B. 4198. [Staff. and Worc.] Grant by Joan de Harley, relict of the late Robert de Harley, to Alexander de Besforde, of all her lands and tenements in Harley [co. Stafford], Caldewelle, and Besforde [co. Worcester]; with release of all her right in all the lands and tenements in the said places which formerly belonged to the said Robert. Feast of St Andrew, 50 Edward III.[19]

Which doesn't mention her relationship to Alexander de Besford.

multiple couples?

of Willey & of Harley? Sir / not sir?

from https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/xTYdJXr7cYg

Is this the same Robert Harley/Joan Corbet that has been discredited in AR7 & AR8 or a different couple altogether???

Property Dispute

"Although his [Sir Robert Corbet (-1395)] two elder brothers, Thomas and Sir Fulk Corbet, both died leaving issue, Roger was nevertheless to inherit a substantial part of the family estates. This came about as a result of transactions made by his parents in the 1360s and 1370s with the intention of disinheriting their rightful heir (Thomas’s daughter, Elizabeth, wife of Sir John Ipstones*) and restricting the descent of certain manors to the male line. After his mother’s death in 1381 Roger inherited the townships of Lawley in Wellington, Bletchley and Hopton Wafers as well as eight messuages and other property in Shrewsbury; and when his brother Sir Fulk died on 3 Aug. 1382 leaving a daughter as heir, he acquired the entailed estates, which included Shawbury, Moreton Corbet, Habberley, Rowton and three other manors in Shropshire (with an estimated value of over £40 a year). The remainder of the Corbet estates were to pass to Sir Fulk’s young child, Elizabeth, but there soon arose disputes over the manors of Yockleton, Shelve and Wentnor and a quarter of the forest of Caus, which were held for life by Roger’s sister Joan, wife first of Sir Robert Harley and then of John Darras*. Joan had leased these manors to Sir Fulk for term of his life, with remainder, so it was claimed, to Roger, but the King’s lawyers asserted that the property should escheat to the Crown during Elizabeth’s minority. Roger’s suit with the Crown dragged on until Easter 1385, when he apparently won his case, but the question of ownership arose again in 1390 when Elizabeth, who had by then married John Mawddwy, lord of Dinas Mawddwy, came of age. On 7 June Corbet and Darras along with their supporters (who included Sir Hugh Cheyne*, Sir Richard Ludlow*, Thomas Young I* and Malcolm de la Mare*) were summoned before the Council each on pain of 200 marks, the King having been informed that ‘strife and debate’ had arisen between them and the Mawddwys, and that they were ‘minded to make riots and unlawful assemblies of men of the march’. Two weeks later, however, they were excused appearing before the Council, so long as they bound themselves to keep the peace before the justices of assize. The manors in dispute eventually passed to the Mawddwys and their daughter, who married Hugh Burgh*.2"[20]

the following passages are from a website that was incredibly hard to navigate, which is why I did not summarize - I'm not sure the links will serve to get back to what I was looking at.

from https://hyperleap.com/topic/John_Darras/Willey%2C_Shropshire

Roger Corbet had two older brothers, Thomas and John, as well as a younger brother, John, and sisters, including Joan, who was possibly the eldest of the siblings. Roger and Joan's parents, Robert and Elizabeth Corbet, had been concerned to keep the family estates together in a time of short life-spans and tortuous succession that affected many landowning families. As the eldest son, Thomas, predeceased his parents, the initial target had been to prevent the estates going to Elizabeth, his daughter, who had married Sir John Ipstones, a quarrelsome and sometimes violent man who served twice as MP for Staffordshire. In the 1360s they initiated a complex series of property transactions, using the device of fine of lands, and intended to keep the bulk of the Corbet lands effectively in tail, favouring in particular Fulk and Roger. The provisions of these fines were contested by Ipstones and Elizabeth from the outset. However, after the death of Fulk in 1382, much worse followed. Some of the provisions were revealed as mutually-contradictory. Fulk's daughter and sole heiress, also Elizabeth, contested effective ownership of property that had been assigned for life, under a fine of 1363, to Joan and her first husband, Sir Robert Harley of Willey, who died around 1370, with the remainder to Fulk and the heirs of his body. These lands at Yockleton, Shelve, Wentnor and Caus Forest, were all on the western side of Shropshire, close to the Welsh border and Joan and Harley leased them for the remainder of their lives to Sir Fulk for a rent of £60 a year. However, in 1367, they levied a fine to ensure estates passed to Roger in the event of Fulk's death. As Joan was still alive when Sir Fulk died in 1382, his daughter, Elizabeth, had a reasonable expectation of continuing to lease the lands under the fine of 1363. Joan, however, intended the lands to go immediately to her younger brother, Roger, according to the fine of 1367. She had reiterated the position after Harley's death in a new fine in 1376, and this position was assumed by the inquisition post mortem following Sir Fulk's death. There was a series of legal claims and counter-claims, with the Crown intervening to try to secure an escheat while the young Elizabeth was still a minor. However, Roger emerged victorious in 1385.wikipedia

From https://hyperleap.com/topic/John_Darras/John_Ipstones/Willey%2C_Shropshire

Ipstones and Elizabeth were the first to challenge this settlement, almost immediately after their marriage The action was initiated at the King's Bench in Leicester in Easter term of 1374, a year before Sir Robert died. The target of their action in the Court of Common Pleas was the Leicestershire manor of Braunstone. The manor was an example of the subinfeudation monarchs were desperate to end: the Corbets held it under the Harcourts, who held it of the Burdet family, who held it of the Ferrers family of Groby, the tenants-in-chief. Elizabeth's aunt, Margaret Corbet, had married the Warwickshire landowner Sir Thomas Erdington of Erdington and they had taken over Braunstone as early as 1364. Nevertheless, their response to the action by Ipstones and Elizabeth Corbet was that they held nothing in the manor. The suit went against a second strand in the Corbets' dynastic policy: that of contracting double marriage alliances wherever possible. Sir Robert had married two of his daughters into the Harleys of Willey, Shropshire and a son and daughter into the Erdingtons. Sir Roger, who was the third and final heir, was deeply invested in his sister's marriage, not least because he was married to his own sister-in-law, Margaret Erdington. Hence the case was protracted and strongly contested by the Corbets and Erdingtons, although the inquisition following Sir Robert's death in 1375 had recognised that Elizabeth, now over 18, was his heir in blood. In 1382 Thomas and Margaret Erdington were still prevaricating and prolonging matters by failing to turn up for court hearings. Ultimately the manor was to pass to the son of Margaret and Thomas, the younger Thomas Erdington, and the Erdingtons were to remain tenants there until the last of their line died, sine prole, in 1467.wikipedia

posted 13 September 2022 on Margaret Corbet (abt.1309-aft.1385):

from https://www.wikiwand.com/en/John_Darras

Some of these properties passed to Roger Willey, a relative of Sir Robert Harley, in 1400,[fn] presumably on Joan's death: Willey was a business associate of Darras.[fn]

Multiple Joan Corbet Profiles

Other profiles for a Joan Corbet (potentially duplicates). Dates and attached profiles are as of 2 September 2022:
  • Corbet-90: Joan (Corbet) de la Pole (abt.1261-1348)
    • father Corbet-40: Robert Corbet (abt.1234-1300)
    • mother Strange-205: Katherine (Strange) Stranton (abt.1237-)
    • husband Pole-115: Owain ap Griffith de la Pole (1257-1293)
  • De_Corbett-1: Joan (de Corbett) Corbett (1274-1348). Attached profiles:
    • husband Harley-47: Robert Harley (abt.1270-1349), who is also husband of
      • Corbet-239 (this Joan)
    • daughter Harley-46: Joan (Harley) de Besford (abt.1308-abt.1341)
      • Besford-6: John (Besford) de Besford (abt.1296-aft.1341), husband of Joan Harley-46. Attached as parents of
      • Besford-2: Alexander Besford (abt.1319-bef.1403)
  • interjecting here... I think that Harley-47 is the Robert who married Margaret Brampton in 1302 or 1309. - [2nd interjection - Harley-47 would have needed to be merged into Harley-151, so instead Harley-47 now solely represents husband of Joan b c1335]. See Robert Harley (1276-) (currently attached as her husband) & Margaret (Brampton) Harley (1286-) ... and profile attached as her father - Bryan Brampton (1263-1294) - whose profile text cites his IPM, saying "According to his i.p.m., he left two young daughters and coheirs, Margaret (aged 1) and Elizabeth (aged 5 weeks)."[21] His profile also has a comment that gives their husbands:
    • Elizabeth (bap. 12 Dec 1295 - after March 1354; married 1313/14 to Sir Edmund de Cornwall of Kinlet)
    • Margaret (1286/87-1355; married Sir Robert de Harley
  • these would be the aunts mentioned whose heirs were... dang. my memory fails me.
  • Corbet-562: Joan (Corbet) de Wyard (abt.1305-)
    • father Corbet-99: William Corbet (1280-1361)
    • mother Corbet-125: Unknown Corbet (1286-1375)
    • husband Wyard-5: John (Wyard) de Wyard (bef.1299-)
  • Corbet-557: Joan Corbet (abt.1322-)
    • father Corbet-72: Roger Corbet (abt.1282-abt.1368) of Caus Castle - son of Roger Corbet-73
    • mother Camaville-1: Amice (Camaville) Corbet (-abt.1368)
    • husband (no attached profile & not mentioned in text)
  • [Corbet-239]: this Joane Corbet (abt.1332-aft.1417) for reference
    • father Corbet-36: Robert Corbet (1304-1375)
    • mother Strange-151: Elizabeth (Strange) Corbet (abt.1308-abt.1381)
    • husband Harley-47: Robert Harley (abt.1270-1349)
  • Corbet-220: Joan Corbet (abt.1355-). Attached profiles:
    • father Corbet-285: John Corbet (1324-1383)
    • mother Corbet-239: Joane Corbet (abt.1332-aft.1417)
    • brother Corbet-218: John Corbet (abt.1355-abt.1389)
Update: 3 September 2022: I detached John Corbet-285 from being the husband of this Joan [Corbet-239] and Joan from being mother of his children - Joan (Corbet-220) and John (Corbet-218), father of Alice who married William Brereton. ~ Noland-165 22:22, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Corbet-351: Joane Corbet (abt.1368-)
    • father Corbet-25: Roger Corbet (abt.1355-abt.1395)
    • mother Erdington-1: Margaret (Erdington) Corbet (abt.1353-1395)
    • sister of Corbet-5: Robert Corbet MP (1383-abt.1420) updated death date: RA II:292 CORBET 8
    • husband (no attached profile & not mentioned in text)
  • Corbet-105: Johanna (Corbet) Hopton (abt.1422-)
    • father Corbet-106: Thomas Corbet (abt.1398-abt.1482)
    • mother Cornwall-19: Elizabeth (Cornwall) Corbet (1395-)
    • husband Hopton-36: John Hopton (abt.1415-)

Joan Corbets by marriage

  • Mortimer-689: Joan (Mortimer) Corbet (-aft.1270), wife of Corbet-109: Peter Corbet (1229-1300) - his birth/death and her death given as Caus, Shropshire.
  • Thornbury-40: Joan (Thornbury) Corbet (abt.1385-1418), married Robert Corbet-629 (abt.1354-bef.1417). From his profile: Joanna, widow of Robert Corbet (abt.1354-bef.1417), of King's Bromley, co. Stafford, and Hadley, co. Salop, died 3 Oct. 1418. Her heir was William Peyto, her son by her first husband, William de Peto (died 1406/7). Her 2nd husband was John Knightley the younger.[22]
    • https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Corbet_(died_1417)&oldid=612430079
    • http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/corbet-sir-robert-1354-1417
      b.c.1354, s. and h. of Sir Robert Corbet (c.1330-1404) of Kings Bromley, Staffs. and Hadley, by his 1st w. m. (1) c.1364, Alice, da. and h. of Sir John Langton of Hoddesdon, Herts. ?1da.; (2) by June 1385, Joan, da. of Agnes, da. and coh. of Ralph Broc of ‘Maudeleyns’, in Northchurch, Herts., wid. of Sir Peter Scudamore of Upton Scudamore, Wilts., 1da.; (3) aft. 1415, Joan (d. Oct. 1418), da. of Sir John Thornbury*, wid. of William Peyto of Chesterton, Warws. and of John Knightley* of Gnosall, Staffs. Kntd. by July 1372.
      "Although Corbet’s father, Sir Robert senior, was the youngest of Sir Roger Corbet of Hadley’s three sons, he had nevertheless inherited the family’s widespread estates,... Most of these properties did not pass to the MP until his father’s death in 1404, at the late age of 74 or more, although in his father’s lifetime he and his first wife had taken possession of Kings Bromley (by a settlement made in 1372)..."
      "Corbet died on 5 July 1417, leaving as heir to the family estates his daughter (probably by his second wife), Sibyl, wife of John Greville* of Sezincote, Gloucestershire. After Greville’s death without issue in 1444, they were to pass to the son of Sir Robert’s half-brother, Sir Guy Corbet.11"
  • Leighton-780: Joan Leighton (1359-1389), married John Corbet-218 (abt.1355-abt.1389), parents of
    • Corbet-565: Richard Corbet (abt.1390-1404)
    • Corbet-23: Alice (Corbet) Brereton (bef.1391-1458)
    • From Richard's profile: On 24 February, 1410-11, a writ of livery was issued to William son of William Brereton, Kt, and Alice his wife, sister and heir of Richard Corbert kinsman and heir of Dame Mary le Roos, of the manor of Staple-Foulk, held in capite of the Earls of Chester, and in the hands of the Earl by the death of Richard, who died a minor without heirs of his body. [11& 12 Henry IV m 2 d (10)][23]
    • This Richard as son and heir of John Corbet, page 158, Transactions of the Shropshire Archaeological and Natural History Society (1903)
  • Toret-3: Joanna (Toret) Corbet (abt.1183-bef.1239), wife of Corbet-37: Richard Corbet (abt.1173-bef.1235)
  • Burley-20: Jane (Burley) Corbet (abt.1370-) Jane and Joan are often treated as synonymous; Jane married Corbet-107: Thomas Corbet (abt.1370-)

Working Backwards?

Having a hard time sorting out the Caution. I thought perhaps working from descendants up might work better, but maybe not... following text is from the profile for William Pole (-1329), which has its own problems. (See this answer to a G2G question about William of Hull, which references the Wikipedia article on William the financier.[24])
Wikipedia's article on Sir "William de la Pole (of Mawddwy)", who died before 1319 and "was the fourth son of Gruffydd ap Gwenwynwyn", notes that he "would have inherited the principality of Powys Wenwynwyn, if it had continued to descend in the male line according to Welsh law" when his elder brother Owen de la Pole died. Instead, it went - according to English law - to Owen's "daughter Hawise Gadarn, Lady of Powys, wife of John Charleton, 1st Baron Cherleton. Contrary to a few reports, there is no evidence of any relationship to William de la Pole of Hull, merchant and financier to Edward III."[25][26]

The Wikipedia article gives some information about the family of Sir William de la Pole of Mawddwy:[25]

"Sir William de la Pole had... the Lordship of Mawddwy, consisting of Mawddwy and most of Mallwyd. Sir William was succeeded in this lordship by his son Gruffydd (who was of age in 1319), his son, another William, and his son John. John's son Fulk predeceased his father without issue in about 1414. Accordingly, Mawddwy then passed to Fulk's sister Elizabeth, who married Hugh Burgh. Hugh Burgh's son John (1414–1471) owned the lordship, but only left four daughters who were John's coheiresses."[25]
  • "Elisabeth (Isabella) de Burgh (died 1522) married Sir John Lingen (died 1505), buried in Aymestrey, Herefordshire".[25]
  • Anchoretta de Burgh, married John Leighton of StreTton [sic], later of Wattlesborough and Loton, Sheriff of Shropshire (d 1493)."[25]
  • the article does not name the other two daughters[25]

Burgh to Pole

  • John Burgh (1414–1471)[25] = Burgh-289: John Burgh (1414-1471)... son of
  • Hugh Burgh, husband of Fulk Pole's sister Elizabeth[25]
  • Fulk Pole, father of Fulk Pole & Elizabeth (Pole) Burgh[25]
  • John Pole, father of Fulk[25]
  • William de la Pole (died before 1319), youngest of four brothers[25] = ? Pole-45: William Pole (-1329) WikiTree has this William as son of Owen, with spouse Elina ... The profile for Gruffydd, father of William & Owen, lists his fourth son as "William de la Pole married Eleanor ferch thomas"
  • Oldest brother was Owen,[25] married to Jane Pole (a cousin)[27] = Pole-115: Owain ap Griffith (Pole) de la Pole (1257-1293), spouse Corbet-90 Joan (Corbet) de la Pole (abt.1261-1348)
  • Owen & William were sons of Gruffydd ap Gwenwynwyn[25] = ap_Gwenwynwyn-6: Gruffydd ap Gwenwynwyn (abt.1215-1286), spouse Hawise Strange

Other Profiles

Alice...

Alice De Harley (1345-1389), wife of Hamon Peshale (-abt.1398), daughter of Sir Robert Harley of Willey, Salop (died 1370), is niece of Sir Roger Corbet (d 1395 - married Margaret Erdington), who was third son of Sir Robert Corbet (d 1375) and Elizabeth Strange.[12]

Note: Alice in WikiTree is not attached to parents as of 6 September 2022.

Robert Harley (not sir) was the son of Sir Robert de Harley who died of the Black Death in 1349.[4]

Joan Corbet married the "not sir".[4] Which does not align with Alice being the daughter of Sir Robert Harley of Willey, who died in 1370, and Joan Corbet.

From an unrelated (through the Corbets) profile - Freeman-1326, mentioned in this SGM post:

First, it has been shown that Joan de Harley, wife of John de Besford, was not a daughter of Sir Robert de Harley by his wife Joan Corbet.[28][29]

Alice (Ipstones) Brereton (abt.1397-) following is the bulk of her profile as of 6 September 2022

Alice Ipstones was the daughter of William de Ipstones and Maud Swynnerton.[30][31][32] Her father's Inquisitions Post Mortem give her age as 2 or as 3 or more on February 1399/1400 (1400 in modern reckoning),[33] so she was probably born between 1396 and 1398. Her father held lands in Staffordshire,[34] so she was likely to have been born in that county.
Alice and her older sister Christina/Christiana were their father's coheirs.[33] Christiana was living in 9 Henry IV [30 September, 1407 to 29 September, 1408], when their mother, Matilda, with their stepfather, John Savage, sued John de Arderne, Kt, Alice, her sister Christiana and others for unjustly disseising them of the manor of Tean and rent from Draycote.[32] Christiana presumably died in childhood as Alice brought her husband a full interest in her father's lands at Blymhill, Staffordshire.[35]
Alice married Randal Brereton before 29 September 1410.[30][31] ...
In 1410 Alice's grandmother Elizabeth Corbet granted Alice's husband a 20-year lease of lands in Befford, Billesley (Warwickshire) and Shawbury (Shropshire).[30][31]
In 1419 Alice and her husband sued her grandmother Elizabeth Corbet, widow of John Ipstones, for rent arrears, and four years later, in 1423, they sued again, this time for "waste and destruction in lands, houses, and gardens which she [Elizabeth] held of his [John Ipstones'] inheritance in Plymylle [Blymhill] and Kerswall", Staffordshire.[36]

Alice (Puleston) Harley (abt.1235-) - married Robert Harley (abt.1230-) and, as of 5 September, the parents of Richard Harley-839, born c1235.

Alice was born about 1235. She is the daughter of Roger Puleston. She married Robert de Harley ca. 1255.
"It is also said that Roger de Pyvelesdon had a daughter Alice by his wife Margaret Monthermer, and that she married Robert de Harley. This Robert succeeded his father "Richard, who held a knight's fee in Harle in 1240, and became one of the coroners of Salop, and died in the office" (Andersons's Salopia, p. 220). This is confirmed by the following charter:—
A.D. 1255. Roger de Pyvelesdon grants to Robert de Harlegh in frank marriage with Alice his daughter half a mark annual rent which William de Donvill paid for a tenement held under the granter in the vill of Farlawe, co. Salop. (Dugdale's MSS., vol. xxxix, fol. 80.)…He left four sons besides his daughter Alice, wife of Robert de Harley. All of these seem to have been men of note in their day."[37]

I posted the following comment on the profile of Alice Puleston's "son" Richard Harley - Richard Harley (abt.1235-abt.1320) - on 2 September 2022:

The following are excerpts about this Richard from A History of Shropshire, volume 3 (London, A. Constable and Co. : 1908). Online courtesy of archive.org (accessed 2 September 2022).
"In 1300 the coroners and communities of the counties were allowed for the first time to elect their own sheriffs.... In 1300 the counties elected Richard of Harley, lord of Kenley and Harley and a grandson of Roger de Puleston, under-sheriff in the 1240s. Harley’s administrative ability had already been recognized in local commissions, and his brother was a royal clerk...."
"In the earlier 14th century the knights most consistently elected for Shropshire were Richard of Harley (8 times 1300-16), Sir Roger Corbet of Caus (15 times 1309-41),... Richard of Harley (d. 1316),[15] sheriff 1300-3."
Footnote 15 ("V.C.H, Salop. viii. 87.") is on page 23. The earlier part of the quote is from page 235.

Scott is working on a re-do of Harley-5's profile at Space: Michal-120 Pre-1500 Sandbox. By the link for the profile attached as son Richard (Harley-839), I posted the comment: "profile needs massive editing (to include change to 1255/6 birth date) or detached, with info about Robert's son Richard the subject of a new profile."

Robert Harley, father-in-law of Joane Corbet

following is a copy of info added to Robert Harley (abt.1270-1349) 6 September 2022. The profile as of 4:30 pm, 6 September 2022 is attached as husband of 2 Joan Corbets, but he is husband of neither - he is believed to be the father of the Robert who married Joan.

Note: Information in a Visitation is considered reliable for information about the generations nearest the time it was taken - not so much when centuries have passed (i.e., the Visitation of Shropshire was taken in 1623, so information about those living in the 1300s needs collaborating sources). [top-of-profile text]

The Visitation of Shropshire shows Joanna, born 1332, daughter of Robert Corbet as the wife of Robert Harley.

The Visitation does not give a date of birth for her. It shows her as daughter of "Robertus Corbet de Morton miles ob. 49 E. 3" [1375/6][38] & Elizabetha. It has Robertus as son of Thomas and Amecia (Thomas, son of Robert & Matilda/Maud - the same Robert who married Katherine Strange).[39] ~ Noland-165, 6 September 2022
note - WikiTree IDs are for what appear to be the correct profiles as of 6 September 2022

Complete Peerage

Following citation is from the profile of Richard Harley (abt.1235-abt.1320), 9 September 2022:
  • The Hon. Vicary Gibbs and H. Arthur Doubleday. Complete Peerage of Great Britain, Scotland, and Ireland. London: The St. Catherine Press, 34 Norfolk Street Strand, 1913. pp 187-189
It is probably for Cokayne's Complete Peerage (WikiTree's source page for Complete Peerage has links to online copies), which is usually cited more along the lines of "Cokayne, G.E., Gibbs, V., ed. The Complete Peerage...."
However, based on the publication date (1913), it appears that the reference is to volume 3 of the new edition of Cokayne, "Canonteign to Cutts", which is online courtesy of archive.org (accessed 2 September 2022) and FamilySearch. And mention of a descendant of Robert Harley (father of Richard) is found under the Corbet Barony (pages 417-418), in footnote a on page 418:
  • The coheirs of John (born 25 March 1298), the last Lord Corbet, were "the descendants of his aunts. (1) Alice, m. Robert de Stafford, whose great-grandson and h., Ralph, Lord Stafford, then aged 32, inherited the Castle of Caus, &c.; and (2) Emma, m. Sir Bryan de Brampton, of whose great-grand-daughters and coheirs, Margaret, then aged 46, was wife of Robert Harley [ancestor of the Earls of Oxford], and Elizabeth, then aged 42, was wife of Edmund de Cornwall."[40]
Margaret Brampton (1286-) married Robert Harley (1276-) in 1302.[41]
According to Salesbury MSS, a Roger Pulesdon living in 1345 marries for his first wife Margaret, daughter of Sir William Monthermer.

It is more probable that she was wife (first or second) to this Roger, who was living in 1241. Mr. G. F. Clark writes: "There is, as far as I know, but one family of Monthermer, that represented by Ralph de M., a simple Esquire, who married, in 1296, Joan, widow of the Earl of Clare.

Visitation of Shropshire

It took me WAY too long to figure out that the Visitation of Shropshire Taken in 1623 was published in two parts... The Harley family that Joan Corbet married into in part I = pp 213-4 & in part II = pp 303-4.

Part 1 = https://archive.org/details/visitationshrop00britgoog
  • has Richard's wife as Burga da. & h. to Sir Andrew Willeigh Knt., Lord of Willeleigh & their son as
  • Sir Malcolme de Harley Knt. (no other info) - a record posted on another profile explains how that might have happened) - and his son as
  • Sir Robert de Harley of Harley, Willey, & Kinleighe Knt. (m Margrett da. & coh. to Sir Bryan Brampton...)
  • Shows the Corbet sisters who married sons of Robert Harley & his wife Margaret as daughters of Roger Corbet.
Part 2 = https://archive.org/details/visitationshrop00grazgoog
  • has Richard's wife as Burga da. & h. to Andreas de Willey ao 11 E. 2. & their son as
  • Robertus de Harley miles (m "Margareta filia natu maxima et cohaeres Brioni de Brampton [of Brampton Brian] militis ao 23 E. 3.")
  • Shows the Corbet sisters who married sons of Robert Harley & his wife Margaret as daughters of Robert Corbet.[42]

See the first two pages of the Introduction of Part 1 for a discussion of Harl. 1241, which says (among other things) :

"... I am apt to believe that the Date of the Visitation last mentioned may be mistaken, and that it should be 1584.... And as the date of 1564, seems not to be right ; so I suspect that Mr. Hanford may not have been the most accurate Copyist in some other places; not but that the Book being a Painter's Book only (wherein the Seals and other Proofs of Descents are almost intirely omitted) may upon divers occasions prove of good use."
Part 1 notes that Harl. 1241 makes this Sir Malcolm brother, not father, of Sir Robert who marries Margrett Brampton.
Part 2 says "Harl. 1241 makes a Sir Malcolm Harley son of Richard and father of Robert."

So I'm not sure exactly what "Harl. 1241" encompasses.

Also from the introduction:

There is another copy of the Visitation of 1623 in the School Library at Shrewsbury, and by the kindness of the School Committee we have been able to incorporate a collation of this interesting MS. in the present volume, which therefore consists of Harl. MS. 1396, with additions from Harl. MSS. 615 and 1241, and from the Shrewsbury MS., and comprises the Visitations of 1569, 1584, and 1623. To distinguish these various MSS., Harl. MS. 1396 is printed in ordinary Roman type, the additions from Harl. MS. 1241 are printed in italics, the additions from Harl. MS. 615 are printed in italics within parentheses, and the additions and variations taken from the Shrewsbury MS. are printed in italics within square brackets. Other variations are explained in the footnotes, and additions by the Editors are printed in ordinary Roman type within square brackets.

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Dianne Elizabeth's Family History (Rootsweb database). Entry for Richard Harley. Updated Feb 25, 2014; Accessed October 14, 2017 jhd
  2. ↑ Dictionary of Welsh Biography: HARLEY family, of Brampton Bryan and Wigmore, Herefordshire, later earls of Oxford and Mortimer, by Emeritus Professor Robert Thomas Jenkins (accessed 11 September 2022).
  3. ↑ J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other Analogous Documents Preserved in the Public Record Office. Vol V Edward II, (London: His Majesty's Stationery Office, 1908), 83-84, e-book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/cu31924011387838/page/83/mode/1up : accessed 10 September, 2022). Abstract No 156. Margaret the wife of Robert de Harle, and daughter and one of the heirs of Brian de Brompton.
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 SGM post by Reedpcgen, 9 August 1998, in the "Sir Robert Harley" thread in the soc.genealogy.medieval Google group (accessed 11 September 2022), citing
    • The Genealogist v. 10, no. 1, pp. 35-72.
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 5.2 "Pedigrees from the plea rolls", page 218 (accessed 11 September 2022). The record shows that Henry Grendon and his wife Elizabeth (granddaughter of Robert and Joan) successfully sued Brian de Harley's son by Alianora, Brian, for the manors of Brompton and Buckton: "By a fine levied in 16 Ed. 3, Brian de Harley had only a life interest in the manors." Regnal Years (see an index here):
    • 16 Ed. 3 = 25 January 1342 - 24 January 1343
    • 30 E. 3 = 25 January 1356 - 24 January 1357
  6. ↑ Visitation of Shropshire, part 1, page 214 (accessed 11 September 2022).
  7. ↑ Beatrice "died on 28 August". The Calendar of Inquisitions..., (page 34) gives the following line of descent:
    Thomas Corbet -> Peter (heir), Alice (m Robert de Staff[ord]) & Emma -> Peter -> Peter (m Beatrice) -> "the aforesaid Ralph de Staff[ord] aged 36 years, Margaret wife of the aforesaid Robert de Harleye, aged 46 years, and Elizabeth, wife of the aforesaid Edmund, aged 42 years, are the heirs of the said Peter son of Peter".
    • Pedigree for Margaret and Elizabeth: Emma (younger sister of Alice) -> Walter -> Brian -> Margaret (first born, m Robert de Harleye) and Elizabeth (the younger, m "Edmund de Cornubia"). Emma's husband is not named and no surname is given for the descendants (see page 512), although other documents have Brian (father of Margaret Harley & Elizabeth Cornwall) as Brian Brampton.
  8. ↑ Edward III regnal calendar (accessed 12 September 2022).
  9. ↑ Removed "Wem" from location, as Moreton Corbet is "a parish in the hundred of North Bradford, county Salop, 8 miles N.E. of Shrewsbury, its post town, and 4½ S.E. of Wem.... The church, dedicated to St. Bartholomew, is an ancient structure, with a tower containing six bells... and some ancient effigies and monuments to the Corbet family." ~ GenUKI's Moreton Corbet, information transcribed from The National Gazetteer of Great Britain and Ireland 1868 by Colin Hinson ©2015
  10. ↑ See Space:Moreton Corbet, Shropshire (accessed 4 September 2022).
  11. ↑ 11.0 11.1 11.2 Wikipedia: Corbet Family, chart of "The Corbets of Moreton Corbet, Stanwardine and Stoke" (based on pedigrees derived from the Heraldic Visitation of Shropshire, 1623, and in Augusta Corbet's family history, supplemented by more recent information from the History of Parliament Online). Accessed October 17, 2017 jhd
  12. ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 History of Parliament Online: John Darras (1355-1408), accessed 3 September 2022.
  13. ↑ 13.0 13.1 Robert Tresswell, Somerset Herald, and Augustgine Vincent, Rouge Croix Pursuivant of Arms. Part I, London, 1889. pages 132-144 Corbet Family Pedigree; The Visitation of Shropshire Taken in the Year 1623, pages 132-144. Accessed October 14, 2017. jhd
  14. ↑ 14.0 14.1 14.2 From the biography of Hamon Peshale's History of Parliament Online (HOP) biography: "Peshale’s interests in land in Shropshire came through his marriage to Alice Harley, niece of Sir Roger Corbet*, which probably took place in 1375 when the reversion of a moiety of the manor of Ashton (Herefordshire) was settled on them. In 1380 they encountered some difficulties when John Lee alleged that Alice was illegitimate, but Bishop Stretton of Coventry and Lichfield certified that this was not the case. Even so, the bulk of Alice’s inheritance remained in the possession of her mother and stepfather, John Darras*, who outlived both her and her husband. Peshale acted as an executor for his wife’s other uncle, Sir Fulk Corbet, who died in 1382". (The asterisks in the text indicate that the person has their own HOP bio.)
  15. ↑ History of Parliament Online: Roger Corbet (d 1395), accessed 3 September 2022.
  16. ↑ "Katherina Elizabetha" in the Visitation of Shropshire, page (accessed 3 September 2022).
  17. ↑ 17.0 17.1 Misc. Gen. et Her. (ser. 5), vi. 295-300; CP25(1)260/21/7, 25/56; VCH Worcs. iv. 20-21, 84-85, 149, 158; CAD, iii. B4198. Cited in History of Parliament. Alexander Besford of Besford, Worcester. Published in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421, ed. J.S. Roskell, L. Clark, C. Rawcliffe., 1993
  18. ↑ See the entries for Joan (no surname), wife of Alexander Besford b c1310, and for Alexander Besford b c1339, attached as their son. Tree posted by Jim Weber, "The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest" (accessed 3 September 2022).
  19. ↑ A Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds in the Public Record Office. Volume III, ed. H C Maxwell Lyte, (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1900), 304, e-book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/descriptivecatal03greauoft/page/304/mode/1up : accessed 15 September, 2022). B. 4198.
  20. ↑ https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/corbet-sir-roger-1395
  21. ↑ Calendar of inquisitions post mortem and other analogous documents preserved in the Public Record Office, pp. 189-90
  22. ↑ From a Knightly pedigree (see the excerpt in WikiTree here, accessed 4 September 2022), in Collections for a History of Staffordshire, page 13.
  23. ↑ Peter Turner, comp, "Appendix II: No 1. Welsh Records: Calendar of Recognizance Rolls of the Palatinate of Chester, to the End of the Reign of Henry IV", The Thirty-Sixth Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records [13 February 1875], (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1875), 55, e-book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/annualreportdep02offigoog/page/55/mode/1up : accessed 12 April, 2022).
  24. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=William_de_la_Pole_(Chief_Baron_of_the_Exchequer)&oldid=791050301#Parentage
  25. ↑ 25.00 25.01 25.02 25.03 25.04 25.05 25.06 25.07 25.08 25.09 25.10 25.11 25.12 25.13 Wikipedia: William de la Pole (of Mawddwy), accessed 6 September 2022.
  26. ↑ Another source says that the wife of the William of Hull was Catherine Norwich (see the "other" William's profile, Pole-45). In WikiTree, the husband of Catherine Norwich = Pole-39: William (Pole) de la Pole (1302-1366). See also https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Pole,_William_de_la_(d.1366)_(DNB00) ... source for Richard (Pole) de la Pole (-1345), son of William and Elina.
  27. ↑ Hirschman, E.C. & Yates, D.N. (2014). The Early Jews and Muslims of England and Wales: A Genetic and Genealogical History, (pp.139). Jefferson, NC: McFarland & Co., Inc. Google Books.
  28. ↑ The Genealogist, vol. 1 no. 1 (Spring 1980): 27-39 Ravens or Pelicans: Who was Joan de Harley, by John G. Hunt and Henry J. Young.
  29. ↑ The Genealogist, vol. 10 no.1 (Spring 1989): 35-72. Another look at Joan de Harley: Will Her Real Descendants Please Rise?, by Paul C. Reed.
  30. ↑ 30.0 30.1 30.2 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. I, pp. 307-308, BRERETON 10, Google Books
  31. ↑ 31.0 31.1 31.2 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), Vol. I, pp. 521-522, BRERETON 15
  32. ↑ 32.0 32.1 G Wrottesley. Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls collected from the Pleadings in the Various Courts of Law AD 1200 to 1500 from the Original Rolls in the Public Record Office, Public Record Office, 1905, p. 254, Internet Archive
  33. ↑ 33.0 33.1 J. L. Kirby, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Henry IV', Entries 205-206, in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 18, Henry IV (London, 1987), pp. 62-77. British History Online, accessed 25 February 2021
  34. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 490, SAVAGE 9, Google Books
  35. ↑ George Bridgeman. 'Some Account of the Manor and Parish of Blymhill, in the County of Strafford', in Historical Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Vol. I, William Salt Archaeological Society, 1880, p. 301, Internet Archive
  36. ↑ George Wrottesley. 'Extracts from the Plea Rolls of the reigns of Henry V and Henry VI, translated from the original Rolls in the Public Record Office', in Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Vol. 17, William Salt Archaeological Society, 1896, pp. 75, Internet Archive, and 89, Internet Archive
  37. ↑ Archaeologia Cambrensis, Emral and Its Occupants. pp 287-289, Google Books.
  38. ↑ 49 E. 3 = 25 January 1375 - 24 January 1376 ~ Edward III regnal calendar (accessed 6 September 2022).
  39. ↑ Visitation of Shropshire, page 134
  40. ↑ Cokayne's Complete Peerage, volume 3 (1913), page 418.
  41. ↑ Married in 1302, per the article on the Harley family in the Dictionary of Welsh Biography. The History of Harley states that Robert married Margaret in 1309. (Both pages accessed 2 September 2022.)
  42. ↑ Visitation of Shropshire, part 2, [ page 305], looks to have Joan, daughter of Robert Corbet, Knt., married to Robert Harley in xx and widowed in xx - "nupta ao 30 E. 3 vidua ao 18 H. 4." (based on... regnal cal. link).
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