Location: Virginia
Surname/tag: Martin, Woody
The belief that Susannah Martin Martin-22679 is challenged by a Martin researcher who states that she is not the daughter of Joseph Martin Sr and Susannah Chiles. Genetic genealogy suggests that she is.
Her sister Olive Martin Edwards, married to Ambrose Edwards married 15 Mar 1774 in St. James Northam Parish, Goochland Co, Virginia, British Colonial America. It is also listed in the Douglas Register, Marriages of Record and source is now in profile. This is the same place Susannah Woody Martin is married
The first evidence of this is in the DNA Connections section on the right side of the page which is propogated by wikitree contributors that attach autosomal DNA results. The following is listed: ~0.78% X DNA ~3.12% Donna (Seay) Vance Find Relationship : MyHeritage DNA.
Donna is indeed a DNA match that I have plotted at dnapainter.
Using the relationship finder tool it states we are 7th cousins with a MRCA of Joseph Martin Sr and Susannah Chiles. Donna (Seay) Vance and Hans Nielsen are both descendants of Susannah Page (Chiles) Martin (1701-1754).
1. Donna is the daughter of Tony Seay [confident] 2. Tony is the son of Helen Mae (Stanley) Seay (abt.1898-1973) [unknown confidence] 3. Helen is the daughter of Matilda (Turner) Stanley (abt.1868-1943) [unknown confidence] 4. Matilda is the daughter of Mary Catherine (Coleman) Turner (1838-abt.1912) [unknown confidence] 5. Mary is the daughter of Elizabeth (Woody) Coleman (abt.1797-abt.1853) [unknown confidence] 6. Elizabeth is the daughter of John Woody (1763-1844) [confident] 7. John is the son of Susannah (Martin) Woody (1738-1834) [unknown confidence] 8. Susannah is the daughter of Susannah Page (Chiles) Martin (1701-1754) [unknown confidence] This makes Susannah the sixth great grandmother of Donna.
1. Hans is the son of Carol (Newsom) Lord DNA confirmed 2. Carol is the daughter of Edmund Patrick Rucker (1878-1978) DNA confirmed 3. Edmund is the son of Ann M. (Stultz) Rucker (1857-1942) DNA confirmed 4. Ann is the daughter of William Pinckney Stultz (1833-1920) [confident] 5. William is the son of Clarisa G. Harvey (Martin) Richardson (1816-1902) [confident] 6. Clarisa is the daughter of Jesse Graves Martin (1786-1836) [unknown confidence] 7. Jesse is the son of Joseph Martin (abt.1740-1808) [unknown confidence] 8. Joseph is the son of Susannah Page (Chiles) Martin (1701-1754) [unknown confidence] This makes Susannah the sixth great grandmother of Hans.
1. [Private] is the son of Bessie Gladys (Woody) Martin (abt.1906-1974) [unknown confidence] 2. Bessie is the daughter of Joseph W. Woody (1860-1935) [unknown confidence] 3. Joseph is the son of Wiley Woody (abt.1815-abt.1880) [unknown confidence] 4. Wiley is the son of Randolph Woody (1770-1845) [unknown confidence] 5. Randolph is the son of Susannah (Martin) Woody (1738-1834) [uncertain] This makes Susannah the third great grandmother of Woody.
Donna is a DNA match to me on the X chromosome which is painted at dnapainter. A screen grab of these matches is attached here. If you reference her DNA page for how she inherited her X DNA, you will see she that she inherited X from Susannah Martin.
The next DNA evidence comes from DNA matches from Ancestry. Both are through son, Randolph Woody Woody-1199. Although I don't like using findagrave information, in this case, the information appears to be correct. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/159063558/randolph-woody
DNA matches through Randolph Martin
Note that children, Wiley Woody and Lucy Woody Ziegler are listed. I have traced two descendants of Randolph Woody, one through Wiley, and one through Lucy.
The first is through Lucy and is the living daughter of Gravely-372. I will identify her as Betsy B. The match 4th – 6th Cousin< 1% shared DNA: 23 cM across 1 segments.
[Private] and Hans are 6th cousins once removed Betsy B and Hans Nielsen are both descendants of Susannah Page (Chiles) Martin (1701-1754).
1. [Private] is the daughter of Virginia Alpha (Gravely) Kiker (1911-1988) [unknown confidence] 2. Virginia is the daughter of Virginia Alphanine (Ziegler) Gravely (1870-1911) [unknown confidence] 3. Virginia is the daughter of John Randolph Ziegler (1833-1919) [unknown confidence] 4. John is the son of Lucy (Woody) Ziegler (1804-1840) [unknown confidence] 5. Lucy is the daughter of Randolph Woody (1770-1845) [unknown confidence] 6. Randolph is the son of Susannah (Martin) Woody (1738-1834) [uncertain] 7. Susannah is the daughter of Susannah Page (Chiles) Martin (1701-1754) [unknown confidence] This makes Susannah the fifth great grandmother of Betsy.
1. Hans is the son of Carol (Newsom) Lord DNA confirmed 2. Carol is the daughter of Edmund Patrick Rucker (1878-1978) DNA confirmed 3. Edmund is the son of Ann M. (Stultz) Rucker (1857-1942) DNA confirmed 4. Ann is the daughter of William Pinckney Stultz (1833-1920) [confident] 5. William is the son of Clarisa G. Harvey (Martin) Richardson (1816-1902) [confident] 6. Clarisa is the daughter of Jesse Graves Martin (1786-1836) [unknown confidence] 7. Jesse is the son of Joseph Martin (abt.1740-1808) [unknown confidence] 8. Joseph is the son of Susannah Page (Chiles) Martin (1701-1754) [unknown confidence] This makes Susannah the sixth great grandmother of Hans.
The second match is through Wiley Woody. This match is the son of Bessie Woody Martin Woody-1619 This match is identified at Ancestry as woody2159 3rd cousin 1x removed | Father's side< 1% shared DNA: 58 cM across 3 segments
1. [Private] is the son of Bessie Gladys (Woody) Martin (abt.1906-1974) [unknown confidence] 2. Bessie is the daughter of Joseph W. Woody (1860-1935) [unknown confidence] 3. Joseph is the son of Wiley Woody (abt.1815-abt.1880) [unknown confidence] 4. Wiley is the son of Randolph Woody (1770-1845) [unknown confidence] 5. Randolph is the son of Susannah (Martin) Woody (1738-1834) [uncertain] This makes Susannah the third great grandmother of Woody.
Note that by using the common matches feature at Ancestry that Woody-1619 and Bestsy B Kiker-376 also match each other thus can be triangulated.
23andme DNA between Carol Lord Newsom-148 and Terry Charles 35 cM over 3 segments. Detailed segment data Comparison Chrom. Start Position End Position Genetic Distance (cM) Number of SNPs Identity Terry Charles / Carol Lord 3 114417343 124896668 11.64 2188 Half Terry Charles / Carol Lord 21 17693665 26414531 17.38 2056 Half Terry Charles / Carol Lord 21 28738059 32994849 5.03 856 Half
23andme DNA match between Carol Lord and Alden Hobbs 37cM over 3 segments
Alden Hobbs, Jr. / Carol Lord 2 239478248 243044147 7.57 816 Half Alden Hobbs, Jr. / Carol Lord 7 1 6567114 11.77 1169 Half Alden Hobbs, Jr. / Carol Lord 18 55715670 67021470 17.38 2836 Half
1. [Private] is the son of Alden Hobbs Sr [unknown confidence] 2. Alden is the son of Grace Beveridge (Stocks) Hobbs (1876-1960) [unknown confidence] 3. Grace is the daughter of Katherine (Martin) Stocks (1855-1924) [unknown confidence] 4. Katherine is the daughter of George Wythe Martin (1805-1867) [unknown confidence] 5. George is the son of Joseph Martin (abt.1740-1808) [unknown confidence] 6. Joseph is the son of Susannah Page (Chiles) Martin (1701-1754) [unknown confidence] This makes Susannah the fourth great grandmother of Alden.
DNA matches through Olive Martin
Ancestry DNA match between cnnnlord Newsom-148 and and J.C. Cheek-1485 J.C.'s test is managed by: susanphillips285 Estimated 5th – 8th Cousin Actual relationship: 6C MRCA: Joseph Martin Sr/ Susanna Chiles Shared DNA: 10 cM across 1 segments
Ancestry DNAmatch between cnnnlord Newsom-148 and Paula Strickland Bass-7242 Shared DNA: 18 cM across 2 segments Estimated 5th – 8th Cousin Actual relationship: 5C1R MRCA: Joseph Martin Sr/ Susannah Chiles
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