Location: New Zealand, UK
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Unsourced Lists for 2017 Source-a-thon
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Calling all NEW ZEALANDERS and anyone with NZ ancestry who want to be part of a Challenge team for Wikitree challenges. Even if your partner or spouse is a kiwi and you are not, then feel free to sign up if you wish. Especially if you are doing their NZ genealogy.
Instead of being just the New Zealand Team, we are THE KIWI CREW. Thanks to Fiona Gilliver for our new Team Name. Thanks to Graeme Olney for the Silver Fern Background and Many Thanks to Campbell Braddock for our wonderful Kiwi Crew Logo!!
Whenever there are Challenges, Sprints and Thons, for activities such as Data Doctoring (fixing up Errors), Sourcing, Connecting, finding Notables, Writing Biographies, Photographing Cemeteries, etc etc, we will CONCENTRATE on NZ profiles as much as we can.
Sign Up Post
This is the sign up post on G2G if you wish to join the Kiwi Crew team
In New Zealand this means the Source-a-thon runs from 5 pm Saturday 30th September to 5 pm Tuesday 3rd October. If any of you can get that Monday or Tuesday off work, that would be very helpful.
The times stated above matches the 0001 EDT start time (BST-4) so that everyone starts AT THE SAME TIME, no matter where they are in the world.
If you wish to participate and get a source-a-thon number, please post your request on the above linked thread, labelled SOURCE-A-THON SIGN-UP POST. Please also mention that you are on the Kiwi Crew Team, if you are already a member. If you wish to become a member of the Kiwi Crew team, please state that on the request as well, and it will (eventually) be arranged.
If anyone wants to see the results of the First Source-a-thon held last year - this is the page with the final results. [2016 Source-a-thon Results]
And if anyone wants to see the (youtube) video livechats for the hangouts and door prizes for the 2016 source-a-thon, the links can be accessed on this page - [2016 Hangouts and Door Prizes for the 2016 Source-a-thon]
The [Source-a-Thon] is the biggest challenge. There are hundreds of profiles on Wikitree that are unsourced., and since Wikitree prides itself as a fully sourced Global Family Tree, we have to to do our part to help.
See the main list for [Unsourced Profiles].
I know most of our Kiwi ancestry leads back to the UK and to Europe, but we need more Kiwi Notables and Kiwi profiles on Wikitree.
This is the current list of [UNSOURCED Profiles from NZ] Please note that there are several pages, each with 200 profiles!! it may look like a long list, but the more sources we can find on the DIA database, the better that profile will be.
If you are somewhat new to Wikitree and to source-a-thons, you might want to read through the above tutorial and perhaps do some practice runs before the source-a-thon actually starts. Just so you know how everything works.
If you want to do some practice runs, you can do some of the Saturday Sourcing Sprints during August.
[This is the page] to check out for details. Also add the following TAG to your Tags list sourcing_sprints
Using the NZ Dept of Internal Affairs [BDM database].
I hope you all know how to use the DIA database for BMDs in NZ? It does have its restrictions, but any NZ person born more than 100 years ago, can be accessed.
And all records after 1840 are recorded, if the person was born, died or married in NZ. Well MOST records are recorded anyway. There may be some restrictions between 1840 and 1848, but I'm not sure of the details.
I always use the Historical Records section. That way you get free access to basic details. Click on Search and then use the Births, Deaths and Marriages sections, depending on whatever record you are looking for.
As for the dates - I always just keep them to 01/01/1840 - or use whatever year you are looking for. It is a nuisance, but that's how they want dates done. I actually find that 01/01/1840 and 01/01/1900 are good divisional points for before the 1900s and after 1900.
Also remember that NZ does the British dating system - Day - Month - Year - not the American system.
Dates of Birth were added to Death records around 1970 or 1971, so pretty much all deaths after 1971, now include the persons date of birth which is quite handy. For earlier records that just have an age at death - you can use that to work out a rough year of birth.
Deaths are recorded once the person turns 80 years old. If they died aged 80 and over, their death record is immediately available. if they died before their 80th birthday, then the system waits until their 80th birthday has passed, and then adds their death details.
You do not have to fill in all the spaces to get your information. Sometimes just a surname is enough. If you are looking for all the children of a particular family, As long as you know the names of both parents, you can put in the surname, the mothers name, the dates and then hit search. You often get the whole family that way if you do the dates right.
Be careful with spelling. Some surnames or christian names are still spelled wrong on the database which makes it hard to find. I recently came across a birth record where the mothers name was Emily, but one of the children had his mothers name listed as Emma. I only found it under a surname search. I have also found Helena spelt as Helina.
Please remember to search for married women's DEATH records under their MARRIED names, not under their birth names.
Adding Sources to Profiles
Please see the following profiles for examples on how to add the DIA records as a source to the profiles. You would need to add the same information, but you can display it in a different order if you wish. This is my grandfathers profile as an example - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Thompson-31033
This is another profile with an excellent example of adding DIA cited sources -
Because the DIA website keeps Births, Deaths and Marriages all completely separate, the reference numbers MUST be identified on the profile as to what kind of record they are. Birth, Death or Marriage.
Finally, once you have added a source to the profile, you must manually REMOVE the UNSOURCED Template from that profile, before you save it.
One other thing to remember. Unsourced profiles only need ONE new source to be added during the source-a-thon, the challenges or the sprints. If you add more, that is great, but that profile will still only be counted ONCE. So it would be better to add one source, remove the unsourced template and save the profile, before moving on to a new profile. If you make a note of the sources and profiles, you can always go back at a later time and add more sources.
Another place that is useful for NZ records includes the Archives Archway - which is the access point to the National Archives Dept of NZ - https://archway.archives.govt.nz/ - This can be used to find Divorce records, wills, probate details and military records
For World War 1 military records you can use this site - https://www.govt.nz/browse/history-culture-and-heritage/nz-history/get-a-copy-of-a-ww1-service-record/
For those who died in The Great War (World War 1) you can use the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website - http://www.cwgc.org/
While Census records have been taken in NZ for well over 100 years, the early census records were used only for statistical purposes and then destroyed. I believe that all census records from 1966 are now being preserved, but since 100 years have not passed since 1966, there is currently no access to any census records in New Zealand.
Another excellent source that can be used for Obituaries is the [Papers Past] website run by the National Library of NZ. But this site needs a lot of time to go searching through all the articles to find the name you want. Not good for Sprints.
You can of course continue to use Family Search for NZ records - but most of their NZ BMD records come from the same DIA Database that I have linked to above so it's a moot point.
If someone was born in the UK, and married or died in NZ, then of course you have to access the British records. UK records can be accessed through Family Search, FreeBMD, FreeCen, and FreeReg.
I would prefer that you NOT use sources from Ancestry, Find My Past or Scotlands People because those are PAID sites and not everyone has subscription or paid access to their information. While this does restrict access to Scottish BMD information, the Scottish census records from 1841 to 1891 are available on FreeCen.
Many of the larger towns and cities are now putting their cemeteries databases online. Again, if you are not in a Sprint, these are excellent places to look for names and find details.
Dunedin, NZ [Cemetery Database]
Wellington NZ [Cemeteries Database]
Auckland NZ [Cemeteries Database]
Wargraves and Memorials in NZ [World War 1 and 2]
Timaru NZ [Cemeteries Database]
Christchurch NZ [Cemeteries Database]
[NZ Presbyterian Church Archives] - for those who have Scottish ancestry and who belonged to the Presbyterian Church - they have some very good Marriage records that are accessible online.
Link to find Database Errors for New Zealand
|List Number||2017 Source-a-Thon Number||Photo||Name||Position||Specializations||Comments/Notes|
|1||Robynne Lozier||Team Captain||Connector|
|2||Campbell Braddock|| Logo Designer and |
|Biographies, Errors and Sources|
|3||Fiona Gilliver||Team Member||Biographies and Sources|
|4||Graeme Olney||Team Member||Errors and Sources|
|5||Darren Kellett||Team Member||Errors and Sources|
|6||Lianne Trevarthen||Team Member||Biographies and Sources, Cemeteries|
|7||Richard Shelley||Team Member||Errors, Notables|
|8||Paula Cullen||Team Member||Sources|
|9||Cassandra Miles||Team Member|
|10||Murray Painter||Team Member|
|11||A Brickland||Team Member||Sources|
|12||Charlene Newport||Team Member||Errors and Sources|
|13||Jean (Cox) Price||Team Member||Errors, Sources, and Cemeteries|
|14||Susan Rine||Team Member|
|15||Valerie Willis||Team Member||Connector|
|16||Image:Livingstone-154.jpg||Kirsty Ward||Team Member|
|17||Raewyn Vincent||Team Member|
|18||Lucy Lavelle||Team Member|
|19||Neil McNicol||Team Member|
|20||Norma Crozier||Team Member|
- Kiwi Crew Team Chat for the Source-a-Thon Sep 24, 2017.
- New Zealand Team for Challenges and Source-a-Thon is now up and running Jul 30, 2017.
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On 5 Oct 2017 at 00:53 GMT Robynne (Thompson) Lozier wrote:
On 4 Oct 2017 at 03:22 GMT Robynne (Thompson) Lozier wrote:
On 3 Oct 2017 at 21:20 GMT Charlene Newport wrote:
On 3 Oct 2017 at 12:24 GMT Valerie Willis wrote:
We need something to use with Maori records which fall outside our Govt. BDM system.
On 3 Oct 2017 at 04:34 GMT Robynne (Thompson) Lozier wrote:
Graeme, you are under orders to NOT Start re-loading those pages all again tomorrow - they need a break just like we do. LOL
On 3 Oct 2017 at 04:32 GMT Robynne (Thompson) Lozier wrote:
On 3 Oct 2017 at 04:30 GMT Robynne (Thompson) Lozier wrote:
On 3 Oct 2017 at 04:18 GMT Valerie Willis wrote:
On 2 Oct 2017 at 12:09 GMT Robynne (Thompson) Lozier wrote:
On 2 Oct 2017 at 03:15 GMT Robynne (Thompson) Lozier wrote: