The WikiTree Challenge 2021 Week 42

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Date: 20 Oct 2021 to 3 Nov 2021
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WikiTree Challenge Week 42

Guest Star: Irene Cornish

Lookup Requests for FHL

Please post profile, description of item you are looking for, and film or book url

  • Looking for baptism of Georg Johannes Petrus Dewerth 10 May 1779 From what I can puzzle out it should be microfilm 1052378 items1 or 2 I cannot see the images to give you a number ! Sorry Help appreciated [Cormack-404|Anon (Cormack) Sharkey]]

Notes From Irene

  • My main focus is to learn more about my great grandmother (Katey, Catherine/Katharine Havey) and her sister, Annie Havey (who married a man with the last name Kane). That is definitely the brick wall I’ve hit. I found Katey and Annie on the 1870 census and then found my great grandmother on later census and other records after she married my great grandmother. But I never could find Annie again. According to my mother, Annie and her family (husband and two daughters) lived in the house next door to my great grandmother. I could never document that info with a census. Perhaps they only lived next door for a period less than 10 years and they weren’t living there when census data was collected.
  • Also, I’ve never been able to find any documents about Katey and Annie’s immigration to the US. I know approximate dates but have never found their names on any ship registers. I see possibilities but there’s never enough data to be certain. My mother said Katey came to the US from Ireland at the age of 17 to work as a domestic servant. She said that Katey was born and raised in County Clare (after their parents died, their mother’s sisters raised them). Her sister, Annie, came over, too, but don’t know if she came over first or if they came over together. And I don’t know who or how they were sponsored to be brought to Bordentown, New Jersey.
  • And also welcome any new info about my great grandfather, William Tindall DeWorth, too. I know some about his German roots but would like to learn more.


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  • German Roots Sticker {{German Roots Sticker}}


  • Tip: The census records are a good start, and you should be able to find images of all the birth records for each child on irishgenealogy. They have exact birth date, places, fathers Occupation, and mother’s maiden names. Once you get that, you can search for the marriage of the parents, and that gives their fathers names. The civil records are great, but only go back to 1864 for births, a bit earlier for marriages.

United States

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Interesting Finds

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  • Detterer-16, Edward Detterer and his son, Richard, were buried in a Monument Cemetery in Philadelphia. Their bodies were moved when the cemetery was sold to Temple University. There is an interesting story behind this on wikipedia. [1] MIght be a candidate for a space page.
  • Irene's paternal grandparents James Joseph Brogan and Isabella Veronica Gardiner were both born in New York, but both had roots in Inver parish in County Donegal in Ireland. Her grandfather's mother Catherine Brogan emigrated from the townland of Drumagraa in Inver parish and her grandmother's mother Mary Elizabeth Meehan emigrated with her parents and siblings from an area referred to as Salt Hill, also in Inver parish. The Inver diaspora in Brooklyn and Manhattan appear to have maintained close contact long after leaving their home parish. As late as 1920, there was a re-union of exiles from Inver parish held in New York at which the attendance include Mr and Mrs John Brogan, Drimagra, probably relatives of Irene. The report from the Derry Journal of 16 July 1920 is reproduced here.

Interesting Non-finds

Three of Irene's Irish-born greatgrandparents still don't have parents on WikiTree, with just over nine hours to the deadline.

  • James J. Brogan probably married before 1881 in New York and died on 15 November 1927 in Washington, D.C. We have not found his marriage certificate and his parents' names are left blank on his death certificate.
  • John S. Gardiner married on 4 February 1880 in King's County, New York, and died on 14 September 1934 in Washington, D.C. Neither his marriage certificate nor his death certificate is available online. The former was requested from FHL on 23 October 2021 and the latter must be ordered from DC Health - Vital Records.

Waldron-201 14:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

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Brick Walls

Paternal Brick Walls

  1. James J Brogan: Needs parents Ireland
  2. Catherine (Tracy) Brogan: Needs parents Ireland
  3. John S Gardiner: Needs parents Ireland
  4. Mary E (Meehan) Gardiner: Needs parents Ireland

Maternal Brick Walls

  1. William Barge Detterer ➔ Edward Detterer ➔ Isaac Detterer ➔ Christian Detterer: Needs parents
  2. William Barge Detterer ➔ Edward Detterer ➔ Isaac Detterer ➔ Elizabeth Harley ➔ Rudolph Harley: Needs parents
  3. William Barge Detterer ➔ Edward Detterer ➔ Isaac Detterer ➔ Elizabeth Harley ➔ Mary Beckeer: Needs parents
  4. William Barge Detterer ➔ Edward Detterer ➔ Mary Markley ➔ Jacob Markley: Needs parents
  5. William Barge Detterer ➔ Edward Detterer ➔ Mary Markley ➔ Mary Koplin: Needs parents
  6. William Barge Detterer ➔ Susannah Graf ➔ Jacob Graf: Needs parents
  7. William Barge Detterer ➔ Susannah Graf: Needs a mother
  8. Anna Elizabeth Schimpf ➔ Valentine Schimpf ➔ Jacobus Schimpf: Needs parents Germany
  9. Anna Elizabeth Schimpf ➔ Valentine Schimpf: Needs a mother Germany
  10. Anna Elizabeth Schimpf ➔ Margaretta Adolph: Needs parents Germany
  11. William Tindall DeWorth ➔ Joseph DeWorth ➔ Peter Dewerth: Needs parents Germany
  12. William Tindall DeWorth ➔ Joseph DeWorth ➔ Christina Theobald: Needs parents Germany
  13. William Tindall DeWorth ➔ Mary Carson ➔ William Carson, Sr.: Needs parents
  14. William Tindall DeWorth ➔ Mary Carson ➔ Nancy Ann Tindall: Needs parents
  15. Katharine Havey: Needs parents

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