The WikiTree Challenge 2021 Week 50

Privacy Level: Open (White)
Date: 15 Dec 2021 to 22 Dec 2021
Location: WikiTreemap
Surnames/tags: wikitree_challenge challenges
Profile manager: Mindy Silva private message [send private message]
This page has been accessed 353 times.


WikiTree Challenge Week 50

Guest Star: James Tanner

Notes From Guest

I have all of my information on the Family Tree. You can see my Tanner line beginning with my father, Wallace Ove Tanner ID #KWCW-NS6. None of my lines have a "brick wall" until the 7th generation. All six generations are extensively supported by sources and not subject to any controversy. The first real end of line is David Shepherd LLM7-LKV who is a Revolutionary War Veteran but there is not supporting documentation for the Samuel Shepherd shown as his father. Some of the other lines are well documented into the 1600s. There are a very few wives missing parents until well into the early 1700s. I don't know what you are looking for but we have successfully extended every line back generations from the traditional end-of-line inherited from my ancestors' research. I am certainly open to suggestions. Thanks for the opportunity.


Note: Please check with your captains, Janet Wild and Joan Whitaker, if there are any questions about the images being protected by copyright.
  • add image link here

FHL Requests

Please post in discord, or email your captain. Then you can remove it from the list.

Update from Melanie McComb This is handwritten parish transcript that looks very contemporary. The date looks like 5 Jan. 1700. I would recommend getting the original parish record vs. the transcript.

Update from Melanie McComb, this is a typed parish transcript. Thomas Briant, son of John and Rebecca, baptized on 25 Feb. 1702 (date is not explicitly written - just noted with a - -). Would recommend obtaining the copy of the original parish record.


Tell Us What You Found!!

Interesting Finds

List interesting finds to share with the guest at the end of the week
  • Brothers Peter Sutton (1839-1904) and Henry John Sutton (1845-1909), both born in Lancashire, England, enlisted into Utah Ter. Mil. Cavalry Blackhawk War on 8 April 1866 and were discharged on 8 June 1866. This short enlistment seems to be due to an uprising by the Timpanogos and resulting in the Spanish Fork Diamond Battle. Just six days before, Timpanogos Chief Sanpitch, had been murdered near Nephi. The Timpanogos were lead by Black Hawk. He had told his warriors not to kill anyone except in self defense. Black Hawk's plan was to undermine the Mormon's economy by taking their cattle, which they did by the thousands, and drove them to market. He flooded the cattle markets which caused them to collapse. Black Hawk nearly succeeded in pushing the Mormons out of Utah causing the evacuation of some seventy Mormon villages. Black Hawk was shot in the stomach at Gravely Ford near Richfield in June of 1866, a fatal wound that he would later die from in 1870. Utah Diamond Creek Battle
  • Appears his ancestor Elizabeth (Chattel) Parkinson was a twin. 2 years before (to the day) an older brother was also born
  • Joseph Defriez (abt.1730-) married in an unorthodox manner without banns or license's_Chapel . He also spent time in a debtor’s prison.
  • The comparison tree has Henry Pilley (abt.1730-bef.1812) married to Elizabeth Maria Smithers, but it turns out that whilst his first wife was Elizabeth Smithers and the mother of most of his children, he was actually married 4 times, the last time to an Elizabeth Maria Crisp. It is this last wife who is named in his Will, not the mother of the children who never had a middle name.
  • James undoubtedly is already aware of his Mayflower ancestry. Descendants of his 4G grandmother Thankful (Tefft) Tanner have become members of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants based on tracing their ancestry to her, and from her to Francis Cooke or Richard Warren.
  • When John Sutton (1788-1865) and Mary (Ellison) Sutton (1799-1869) and their children emigrated to the United States in 1853, Mary's brother, James Ellison (1805-1877), and his wife and family went with them.
  • Slaves in the Tanner family of Rhode Island and an interesting story of a slave gaining freedom. It seems that James' 5G grandfather Francis Tanner, of Rhode Island, had a couple of young black slaves (a male named Quam and a female named Cloe). They show up in the 1774 Rhode Island census and in his will (he died in 1777). Quam ended up in the possession of James' 4G grandfather Joshua Tanner (presumably after Francis died). In 1778, Quam Tanner won freedom by enlisting in the Continental Army. (The law that enabled this and the special "Black Regiment" in which Quam served are interesting stories in themselves.) As a soldier, Quam experienced some serious action, and he ended up becoming a prisoner of war until he was finally liberated after the treaty that ended the American Revolutionary War. Quam lived to a very old age in upstate New York, where he was a farmer. See the linked profiles for more details.
This looks like it could have been a mutually beneficial arrangement for Quam and Joshua. Quam got a chance at freedom (if he survived the war) and Joshua got £120, which easily might have been more valuable to him than a slave. I wonder whose idea it was for Quam to enlist? Ellen Smith-62120 02:27, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Free Space Pages

List of Free Space Pages created for or linked to members of this family.

Military Profiles

Did any of the guests' family serve in the military or military conflicts?


Brick Walls

Paternal Brick Walls

  1. William Stewart b. 1740: Needs parents proven
  2. Amy Hutton: Needs parents
  3. David Shepherd: Needs parents
  4. Charles Parkinson: Needs parents proven
  5. Hephzibah Newton: Needs parents
  6. Edward Andrew: Needs parents
  7. Sarah Scott: Needs parents
  8. Anne Kadwell: Needs a father (mother not married?)
  9. Giertrud Christensdatter: Needs parents
  10. Kirsten Pedersdatter: Needs father's surname verified
  11. Christen Nielsen: Needs parents
  12. Inger Christensdatter: Needs parents
  13. James Bailey: Needs parents
  14. James Billings: Needs a mother
  15. Elizabeth McDonald: Needs parents
  16. Joseph McEwen: Needs a mother

Maternal Brick Walls

  1. Jacqueline Smith: Needs parents
  2. Elizabeth (Milton) Morgan (1751-1772): Needs parents
  3. John Sanderson: Needs parents
  4. Sarah Foscue: Needs a mother
  5. John Hamilton: Needs a mother
  6. James P. Hamilton (1790-1844): Needs a mother
  7. Margaret (Turner) Hamilton (1792-1855): Needs parents
  8. William Linton (1746-1801): Needs a mother
  9. Sarah Teaquite (1753-): Needs parents
  10. James McBride: Needs a mother
  11. Mary White: Needs parents
  12. Robert B Selfridge (abt.1775-abt.1851): Needs parents
  13. Alexander Donaldson: Needs parents
  14. Margaret Barron: Needs parents
  15. Alice (Crouchley) Sutton (1712-1800): Needs a mother
  16. Peter Yates (1733-1797): Needs a mother
  17. Peter Ellison (1742-): Needs a mother
  18. Peggy Nelson: Needs a mother
  19. Johanne Christensdatter: Needs parents Line corrected
  20. Frands Pedersen: Needs parents Line corrected
  21. Maren Andersdatter: Needs parents Line corrected
  22. Jens Larsen: Needs parents
  23. David Thomas: Needs parents
  24. Sarah Morris: Needs a mother
  25. John Springthorpe (abt.1750-) : Needs parents
  26. Mary Bailey: Needs parents
  27. John Springthorpe b. : Needs parents
  28. Elizabeth Spriggs: Needs parents

Needs Work

  • Login to edit this profile and add images.
  • Private Messages: Send a private message to the Profile Manager. (Best when privacy is an issue.)
  • Public Comments: Login to post. (Best for messages specifically directed to those editing this profile. Limit 20 per day.)
Comments: 3

Leave a message for others who see this profile.
There are no comments yet.
Login to post a comment.
This could be John Springthorpe

Name: John Springthorp

Gender: Male

Baptism Date: 22 Jun 1752

Baptism Place: Shepshed,Leicester,England

Father: Thos Springthorp

Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 595770


posted by Ann Browning
The Dowsetts aren't listed as brick walls, but now I've connected them to the Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire Dowsetts rather than the Latton, Essex Dowsetts I've taken them back another 4 generations into the mid 1600s.
posted by Jo Fitz-Henry
Brick wall James Billings - I have removed the father that he had on WT (still has on FS) as no valid source. Unable to find a replacement.
posted by Jo Fitz-Henry