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WikiTree Challenge Week 50
Guest Star: James Tanner
Notes From Guest
- I have all of my information on the FamilySearch.org Family Tree. You can see my Tanner line beginning with my father, Wallace Ove Tanner ID #KWCW-NS6. None of my lines have a "brick wall" until the 7th generation. All six generations are extensively supported by sources and not subject to any controversy. The first real end of line is David Shepherd LLM7-LKV who is a Revolutionary War Veteran but there is not supporting documentation for the Samuel Shepherd shown as his father. Some of the other lines are well documented into the 1600s. There are a very few wives missing parents until well into the early 1700s. I don't know what you are looking for but we have successfully extended every line back generations from the traditional end-of-line inherited from my ancestors' research. I am certainly open to suggestions. Thanks for the opportunity.
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- I to see the marriage of John Briant and Rebecca Russell https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSM8-9Y79?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=MF94-M5S which has to be viewed at aFH centre Anon Sharkey
Update from Melanie McComb This is handwritten parish transcript that looks very contemporary. The date looks like 5 Jan. 1700. I would recommend getting the original parish record vs. the transcript.
- And https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSM8-91ZV?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=MF94-M5S the christening of Thomas Briant I ask this as I have found records of a marriage to Elizabeth Gutteridge and a christening in 1702 of Thomas Briant so want to verify which is correct Anon Sharkey
Update from Melanie McComb, this is a typed parish transcript. Thomas Briant, son of John and Rebecca, baptized on 25 Feb. 1702 (date is not explicitly written - just noted with a - -). Would recommend obtaining the copy of the original parish record.
Tell Us What You Found!!
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- Brothers Peter Sutton (1839-1904) and Henry John Sutton (1845-1909), both born in Lancashire, England, enlisted into Utah Ter. Mil. Cavalry Blackhawk War on 8 April 1866 and were discharged on 8 June 1866. This short enlistment seems to be due to an uprising by the Timpanogos and resulting in the Spanish Fork Diamond Battle. Just six days before, Timpanogos Chief Sanpitch, had been murdered near Nephi. The Timpanogos were lead by Black Hawk. He had told his warriors not to kill anyone except in self defense. Black Hawk's plan was to undermine the Mormon's economy by taking their cattle, which they did by the thousands, and drove them to market. He flooded the cattle markets which caused them to collapse. Black Hawk nearly succeeded in pushing the Mormons out of Utah causing the evacuation of some seventy Mormon villages. Black Hawk was shot in the stomach at Gravely Ford near Richfield in June of 1866, a fatal wound that he would later die from in 1870. Utah Diamond Creek Battle
- Appears his ancestor Elizabeth (Chattel) Parkinson was a twin. 2 years before (to the day) an older brother was also born
- Joseph Defriez (abt.1730-) married in an unorthodox manner without banns or license https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith's_Chapel . He also spent time in a debtor’s prison.
- The comparison tree has Henry Pilley (abt.1730-bef.1812) married to Elizabeth Maria Smithers, but it turns out that whilst his first wife was Elizabeth Smithers and the mother of most of his children, he was actually married 4 times, the last time to an Elizabeth Maria Crisp. It is this last wife who is named in his Will, not the mother of the children who never had a middle name.
- James undoubtedly is already aware of his Mayflower ancestry. Descendants of his 4G grandmother Thankful (Tefft) Tanner have become members of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants based on tracing their ancestry to her, and from her to Francis Cooke or Richard Warren.
- When John Sutton (1788-1865) and Mary (Ellison) Sutton (1799-1869) and their children emigrated to the United States in 1853, Mary's brother, James Ellison (1805-1877), and his wife and family went with them.
- Slaves in the Tanner family of Rhode Island and an interesting story of a slave gaining freedom. It seems that James' 5G grandfather Francis Tanner, of Rhode Island, had a couple of young black slaves (a male named Quam and a female named Cloe). They show up in the 1774 Rhode Island census and in his will (he died in 1777). Quam ended up in the possession of James' 4G grandfather Joshua Tanner (presumably after Francis died). In 1778, Quam Tanner won freedom by enlisting in the Continental Army. (The law that enabled this and the special "Black Regiment" in which Quam served are interesting stories in themselves.) As a soldier, Quam experienced some serious action, and he ended up becoming a prisoner of war until he was finally liberated after the treaty that ended the American Revolutionary War. Quam lived to a very old age in upstate New York, where he was a farmer. See the linked profiles for more details.
- This looks like it could have been a mutually beneficial arrangement for Quam and Joshua. Quam got a chance at freedom (if he survived the war) and Joshua got £120, which easily might have been more valuable to him than a slave. I wonder whose idea it was for Quam to enlist? Ellen Smith-62120 02:27, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- Double Cousins: 3GGF Garrard Morgan II (1772-1814) had three of his sons (James' uncles) marry three daughters of Henry Bruce (1777-1855). All their children were double cousins:
Free Space Pages
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- Did any of the guests' family serve in the military or military conflicts?
- Arthur Jarvis (1887-1970) was a Sergeant in QMC during WWI
- 3rd Great-grandfather Samuel Shepherd (1790-1877) served in the war of 1812
- Great grand uncle William Harrison Morgan served in the Civil War
- 4th Great-grandfather Joshua Tanner served in the Revolutionary War as an ensign in the 4th Company, from Hopkinton, 1st Regiment, Washington County Brigade, Rhode Island Militia.
- William Ray was a private in service for Massachusetts in the Revolutionary War.
- Wait Hopkins was a Major in the Revolutionary War. He was one of the Green Mountain Boys and was killed in action at Fourteen Mile Island, New York in 1779.
- 4th GGF David Shepherd was one of the Green Mountain Boys during the Revolutionary War serving under Ethan Allen and Seth Warner.
- Four uncles, sons of 3GGF William Linton (abt.1801-1851) served in the Civil War from Pennsylvania. William Linton (1836-1862) was killed in action at Fair Oaks, Virginia. His brothers Josiah Linton (1840-1912), John Linton (1842-1908) and James Linton (1848-1889) served and survived.
Paternal Brick Walls
- William Stewart b. 1740: Needs parents proven
- Amy Hutton: Needs parents
- David Shepherd: Needs parents
- Charles Parkinson: Needs parents proven
- Hephzibah Newton: Needs parents
- Edward Andrew: Needs parents
- Sarah Scott: Needs parents
- Anne Kadwell: Needs a father (mother not married?)
- Giertrud Christensdatter: Needs parents
- Kirsten Pedersdatter: Needs father's surname verified
- Christen Nielsen: Needs parents
- Inger Christensdatter: Needs parents
- James Bailey: Needs parents
- James Billings: Needs a mother
- Elizabeth McDonald: Needs parents
- Joseph McEwen: Needs a mother
Maternal Brick Walls
- Jacqueline Smith: Needs parents
- Elizabeth (Milton) Morgan (1751-1772): Needs parents
- John Sanderson: Needs parents
- Sarah Foscue: Needs a mother
- John Hamilton: Needs a mother
- James P. Hamilton (1790-1844): Needs a mother
- Margaret (Turner) Hamilton (1792-1855): Needs parents
- William Linton (1746-1801): Needs a mother
- Sarah Teaquite (1753-): Needs parents
- James McBride: Needs a mother
- Mary White: Needs parents
- Robert B Selfridge (abt.1775-abt.1851): Needs parents
- Alexander Donaldson: Needs parents
- Margaret Barron: Needs parents
- Alice (Crouchley) Sutton (1712-1800): Needs a mother
- Peter Yates (1733-1797): Needs a mother
- Peter Ellison (1742-): Needs a mother
- Peggy Nelson: Needs a mother
Johanne Christensdatter: Needs parentsLine corrected
Frands Pedersen: Needs parentsLine corrected
Maren Andersdatter: Needs parentsLine corrected
- Jens Larsen: Needs parents
- David Thomas: Needs parents
- Sarah Morris: Needs a mother
- John Springthorpe (abt.1750-) : Needs parents
- Mary Bailey: Needs parents
- John Springthorpe b. : Needs parents
- Elizabeth Spriggs: Needs parents
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Name: John Springthorp
Baptism Date: 22 Jun 1752
Baptism Place: Shepshed,Leicester,England
Father: Thos Springthorp
Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 595770