The WikiTree Challenge 2022 Challenge 22

Date: 17 Nov 2022 to 24 Nov 2022

Contents 1 WikiTree Challenge Week 22 1.1 Needs Work 1.2 Photographs 1.3 FamilySearch Image Look-ups 2 Tell Us What You Found!! 2.1 Interesting Finds 2.2 Countries Involved 2.3 Free Space Pages 2.4 Military Profiles 3 Media Outreach 3.1 WikiTree Posts: 3.2 Participant Posts: 4 Ancestors 4.1 Brick Walls 4.1.1 Paternal Brick Walls 4.1.2 Maternal Brick Walls 5 Resources 5.1 General WT Resources 5.2 Specific Country Resources 5.2.1 Scotland 6 Sources

WikiTree Challenge Week 22

Focus: Anthony Robert "Robbie" (McMillan) Coltrane OBE

Needs Work

1. John Hay (abt.1720-) Needs children added. Sources are on the profile.

Photographs

Note: Please check with your captain, Donna, if there are any questions about the images being protected by copyright.

• add image link here

FamilySearch Image Look-ups

Tell Us What You Found!!

Interesting Finds

List interesting finds to share with the guest at the end of the week

1. In 1861 Alexander Picken was a bonnet dresser. By 1871 Alexander was a bonnet Manufacturer employing about 20 hands.
2. Robbie's 2nd great grandfather John Ross was a hatter in Scotland. He left his fortune to his family in his Will, but the lawyer dealing with the estate stole the majority of the money and went off to the United States.Tyner-799 00:23, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
3. Robbie's 2x Grand Uncle, Robert Louden (1831-1902), emigrated to the US in 1879. He settled near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where he was a watchman for the railroad for more than 20 years. Yup, you guessed it - he was killed by a passenger train. Selvaggio-84 20:45, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
4. The 2 younger brothers of his maternal grandmother moved to New South Wales, Australia: John Ross Forbes and William Forbes .
5. The older of these two brothers, John Ross Forbes (1883-1963), married Mary Ellen Martin, who already had four children. One of these step-children, Lily (aka Agnes), married Holly G Forster, whose mother was Daisy Emma (Smith) Forbes (1883-1937). This made Daisy seven degrees from Robbie Coltrane. However, Daisy divorced Oliver Forster (for desertion) and, in the same year, married the second Forbes brother, William Forbes (1888-1928), bringing her just four degrees from Robbie Coltrane! Lynne (Ardill) Byass
6. Dr Helen Meldrum McMillan was doctor. By 1908 she had a M.B and a Ch.B to her name. She studied at Edinburgh Medical College for women, winning prizes during her studies. She was also a missionary in India in 1908. Later she was a GP in England. Upon her retirement a newspaper stated she had worked in a military hospital in WW1 in Mesopotania, was Principle of Lady Hardings Memorial College in Delhi, and was elected a Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons in Edinburgh in 1921 (the first woman appointed). Liz
7. David Brown Weir (1864-1864) and John Weir (1864-1864) were twins but they were not born the same day. David was born on 7 Feb 1864 and John on 8 Feb 1864. Sadly both died later the same year. (Albasini-30)
8. John Weir (1826-1904), the son of a cider maker worked hard all his life to feed his family. He started working as a labourer, then became a gamekeeper, a Police Constable, a molecatcher, a gardener's servant, a labourer again, a pit labourer in the mining industry and at the end of his life, aged 74 years, he was still working as a coal miner. (Albasini-30)
9. Anthony McMillan brother of Robbies's gr grandfather also became a Free Church Minister and he took up a post in Fife. This was a new church formed after the Great Disruption of 1843. Liz
10. Helen Stuart (~1680 - ~1754), told her family and relations that when she was a little girl, she carried meat to her father and two brothers, who were hiding about the top of the Knipes (hills to the south east of New Cumnock). This was during the persecutions and once, when returning home with the empty dishes, she met a party of Dragoons who asked where she had been, and what she was doing with the dishes. She refused to tell at first, but being young and threatened with torture she told. The Dragoons then went off at full speed but her father and uncles had been watching or had been warned of their danger. They fled over the hills into the wilds of Kells in Galloway and the Dragoons could not follow them over these steep rugged hills and deep glens. This happened during a period of conflict in Scottish history between the Presbyterian Covenanter movement, based largely in the south west of the country, and the government forces of Kings Charles II and James VII. The period, roughly from 1679 to the Glorious Revolution of 1688, was subsequently called "The Killing Time". (Albasini-30)
11. Andrew Longmore Forbes (1889-abt.1918), Robbie's 1st cousin, 2x removed, was killed in action on February 2, 1918 and was interred with honour at the Wancourt British Cemetery in Pas-de-Calais in France. He was a Lance Corporal. (Silva-1055)
12. Alfred William Barrow(1875-1932) from 7th degree, was in the Lancashire Fusiliers. His disability was recorded as constipation! Tyner-799 00:04, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
13. Daniel Percy Lowe (1915-1985), first husband of Robbie's mother's first cousin, Mavis Jean Forbes, was a dancing teacher in 1930s and 1940s (Australia). Lynne (Ardll) Byass
14. Alexander Forbes, 1st cousin 2x removed of Robbie, was a veteran of the Great War, serving with the famed Gordan Highlanders, and who for more than 3 years was a closely guarded prisoner in a German camp. He was captured while unconscious from a head wound. He was listed as "believed dead" by the War Department. He had a silver plate in his head and was periodically still being treated for the wound. He was employed as a baker and moved his family to Canada. Then one tragic night, after a week of arguing because of no employment, he shot his wife in the head before turning the gun on himself, leaving behind 3 young daughters. (Jaeger-962)
15. Maggie picken neilson Robbie’s gr grandmothers sisters daughter became a Lady after her husband John smith Boyd was knighted in 1947 ( Liz))

Countries Involved

Country and CC level/person

1. Scotland
2. England
3. United States
4. Canada
5. Australia
6. Northern Ireland, CC10 (per tyner-799)

Free Space Pages

List of Free Space Pages created for or linked to members of this family.

Ideas:

• His great-grandfather William Forbes was born in Banff, Scotland. It's first castle was built to repel Viking invaders. (much earlier than he was born) They had a huge fishery district, which could go on a Space page. They hold a visual arts festival in Banff, which could also be a page.
  • Historically, the town is known for being primarily dependant on fishing, but was once a trade centre for weavers, soapmakers and some of the most talented silvermakers in the country. Head to the community-run Banff Museum on the High Street to see some of the oldest surviving silver teapots in Scotland, as well as browsing examples of local work on display too. You can also uncover the story of the notorious Scottish outlaw, James MacPherson, and how he met his demise through replicas, objects and displays.
• His great-grandfather Thomas Howie is notable. He lived at Riccarton Garden, in Scotland. The family owned the fireclay mine (a Space?) and was wealthy. He was a Justice of the Peace.
  • Howie was a cousin of industrialist John Howie, a distant cousin of writer John Howie, first cousin twice removed of the current Lord Glenarthur. His great-grandson is the actor Robbie Coltrane.
• Your Space page here

Military Profiles

• James Rattray McMillan was in the Air Force during WWI ^[1]
• Alexander Fisher McMillan became a doctor and was also in the RAMC was in a military record in Dunard, Baillieston, W Glasgow. He was in in the R.A.M.C. (S.R).^[2]
• 1st cousin twice removed Robert Howie (1890–1954) had a career in the US Army. He enlisted in 1905 and retired as a colonel in 1950. He then served as Florida's civil defense director until his death in Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C. His daughter married Lieutenant Brent Vivian, who also retired as a colonel.
• 1st cousin once removed (mother's side), Robert Martin Forbes (1922-1987), served in the Australian Army in WWII as a "sapper," a combat engineer who would use technical skills for tasks such as deploying demolitions, building bridges, and protecting Army personnel.
• Robert Stanley Harris (1900-1950), father-in-law of Robert Martin Forbes (1922-1987), enlisted in the Australian Imperial Forces (WWI). He stated his age as 18 years, 4 months, but, in fact, he was two years younger than that.
• James Paul Thomson Forbes Maternal great uncle served in the Navy in WW2
• Third cousin once removed Sergeant John R. McKinneyk US Army, was killed in action in Leyte, Philippines, during World War II.
• First cousin once removed Capt Thomas Wyllie Howie Killed in action 9 Feb 1945 in Western Europe while serving with The Royal Engineers
• Andrew Longmore Forbes (1889-abt.1918), Robbie's 1st cousin, 2x removed, was killed in action on February 2, 1918 and was interred with honour at the Wancourt British Cemetery in Pas-de-Calais in France. He was a Lance Corporal. (Silva-1055)
• Alfred William Barrow(1875-1932) from 7th degree, was in the Lancashire Fusiliers and had a disability recorded as Constipation!
• Robert French Galloway (1894-1916) served in the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders and died on 18 October 1916 in France during the Battle of the Somme in WWI.
• 2nd-great-grandmother Janet Landsborough's brother Andrew emigrated from Otley, Yorkshire, and married in Ohio to Marcy McDonough. Marcy's grandfather Hugh (eight degrees) immigrated from Dublin and fought in the American Revolution with 10,000 militiamen organized in a mobile "flying camp" established in the latter half of 1776.

Media Outreach

WikiTree Posts:

Hashtags: #WTChallenge #CollaborativeGenealogy #YearOfFamilyConnections

Day	Subject	@WikiTreeOfficial	@WTChallenge	@WikiTreers	@WikiTreers
11/15	About to start!	Link	Link	Link
11/17	Zoom Kick-off AM	Link	Link	Link
11/17	Zoom Kick-off PM	Link	Link	Link
11/19	Zoom Weekend Chat	Link	Link	Link
11/20	Halfway	Link	Link	Link
11/26	Zoom Weekend Chat	Link	Link	Link	video

Participant Posts:

Ancestors

Brick Walls

These links will be added mid-week by Mindy and the Donna Baumann. Remember to claim any brick wall bounties in the G2G!

Paternal Brick Walls

1. Alexander McMillan (1783-bef.1841)
2. Margaret Sloan (1748-1812)
3. John Hay (abt.1720-)
4. Jean Stevenson (abt.1725-)

Maternal Brick Walls

1. Janet (Bordland) Wyllie (abt.1735-)
2. James Kerr (abt.1780-)
3. James Burges (abt.1770-)
4. John Ross (abt.1802-)

Resources

Please list any resources that you have. We all gain knowledge from each other!

General WT Resources

• Editing Tips This page shows basic markup that can be used on WikiTree profiles and Space pages. Please remember not to use tables on Challenge profiles.
• Example Challenge Profiles This is a guideline on how the profiles can look.
• The WikiTree Browser Extension now includes functions from prior individual extensions.
  • WikiTree AGC This addon is to clean up gedcom 'clutter' once we've connected to existing profiles. It is awesome at cleaning up the gedcoms and putting the source information together. (Tutorial)
  • WikiTree BEE This addon is great for a lot of things, but the main help for the Challenge is the 'auto-bio' button that it puts on the profiles. This will give you basic narrative you can add to.There is a WikiTree BEE extension available for Chrome and Firefox users. (Tutorial)
• The WikiTree Sourcer help you easily create narrative and complete source citations for any public or open profile. (Tutorial)
• The Background Images Category contains pages that you can find a large variety of background images on. Most of them are tiled (repeatable) images.

Specific Country Resources

Scotland

• Scottish Roots Sticker {{Scotland Sticker}}
• Templates, Stickers and Images on WikiTree
• Scotland - Reliable Sources on WikiTree
• Scotland Resources Scotland’s list of source links.
• Scotlandspeople.gov.uk You can register for free and have access to some limited content
• Scottish naming Tradition - Sons ^[3]
  • The first son is named after the father’s father;
  • The second son is named after the mother’s father;
  • The third son is named after the father.
• Scottish naming Tradition - Daughters^[3]
  • The first daughter is named after the mother’s mother;
  • The second daughter is named after the father’s mother
  • The third daughter is named after the mother.

Sources

1. ↑ Military: "UK, Royal Air Force Airmen Records, 1918-1940"
   The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey, England; Kew, Surrey, England; Air Ministry: Air Member for Personnel and Predecessors: Airmen's Records; Series Number: AIR 79
   Ancestry uk Record 61400 #19579 (accessed 17 November 2022)
   Name: James Rattray McMillan; Gender: Male; Age: 29; Birth Date: 9 Jan 1897; Birth Place: Barllieston, Lanarkshire, Scotland; Service Date: 15 May 1918; Service Number: 176796; Father: A. F Mc Millan; Next of Kin: A. F Mc Millan; Relation to Airman: Father.
2. ↑ Military: "UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923"
   Western Front Association; London, England; WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers; Reference: 011/0031/MAC-MAR
   Ancestry uk Record 61588 #1529783 (accessed 15 November 2022)
   Name: Alex F McMillan; Rank: Capt; Record Type: Card; Residence Place: Dunard, Baillieston, W Glasgow; Identification Number: Oa193512; Corps, Regiment or Unit: R.A.M.C. (S.R); Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers; Description: Officers Survived Maclear A-Martin WmM; Next of Kin: Alex F McMillan.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} https://scottishkin.com/the-traditional-scottish-naming-system