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Genealogical Question

Are we able to show whether or not this Thomas Roberts was the same Thomas Roberts who was part of the crew of the Nachem at Monhegan in 1616?
Further, desire to locate documents by which we are able to genealogically identify any of those named in records about the Nachem of Monhegan. (No luck yet.)
Separately, desire to locate historical records that support the identity of the settler and his family. This would include, the deposition in which he gives his age; depositions of his sons, John and Thomas, giving their ages; wife's identity, etc.
Locate historical records reflecting land ownership and roles in local civil, judicial, and religious governance. Deeds, treaties, land transfers and assignments, surveys, etc. Thomas acting in his roles within civil and judicial governance. Records, contemporaneous commentary, and historical reflections upon the "Dover Compact" will be an important addition to this man's profile. Records, attestations, commentary, and reflections upon Thomas Roberts civil, legal, and judicial relationships with the Puritans and the Quakers, such were the times.

Bibliographic Notes

  • 1910. Edward Arber. "Travels and works of Captain John Smith, President of Virginia, and Admiral of New England", Contributors Smith, John, 1580-1631. Arber, Edward, 1836-1912. Bradley, A. G. 1850-1943. Publication/Creation Edinburgh : John Grant, 1910. Persistent URL https://wellcomecollection.org/works/qga23bgv
  • ____. Neill De Paoli. "Life on the edge: Community and trade on the Anglo -American periphery, Pemaquid, Maine, 1610--1689", University of New Hampshire, Durham. Captain Edward Brawnde cited twice; Ftnt 42 on p.21 and Ftnt 39 on p.51. PDF.
  • 1938. Sybil Noyes, Charles Thornton Libby and Water Goodwin Davis, Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire (Portland, Maine, Southworth Press [in 5 parts, paginated consecutively], 1928-1938; Boston, Massachusetts : New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2012), 589 (11-Thomas Roberts, Dover); digital images, InternetArchive (borrow).
  • 1948. Edith (Bartlett) Sumner, Ancestry of Edward Wales Blake and Clarissa Matilda Glidden with Ninety Allied Families (Los Angeles, 1948), 211-212 (Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust.
  • 1923. John Scales, History of Dover, New Hampshire, Volume 1 ([Manchester, N.H., J.B. Clarke Co.] 1923), 302-310 (Roberts Family); digital images, HathiTrust.
  • 1913. George Wadleigh, Notable events in the History of Dover, New Hampshire, from the first settlement in 1623 to 1865 (Dover, N.H. 1913),
  • 5 (arrival with Hiltons, tradition),
  • 13 (1633/Wiggins),
  • 18 (Combination),
  • 19-20 (1640/41 letter, Underhill/Roberts),
  • 24 (1643, 20 acre lots),
  • 30-31 (1648 town record/rate),
  • 33-34 (1650 town records/rate),
  • 34 (9 July 1651, William Roberts presented),
  • 38 (1655/Tuttle Inquest),
  • 44-45 (12th 18th [16]58, rate for "mr reyner his preuetione"; includes "Mr. Roberds," "John Roberds")
  • 46-47 (10 October 1659, among many others, both William Roberts and Thomas Roberts convicted and punished for not "going to meeting"),
  • 49-50 (17 July 1660, William Roberts among those to hear disputes between Dover Neck and Oyster River),
  • 50-51 (5 April 1661, right of commonage at Dover Neck, includes Thomas Roberts, John Roberts, Thomas Roberts, jr.),
  • 61 (17 January 1664, Thomas Layton and John Roberts to "appraise goods taken by distress"),
  • 63 (25 October 1665, John Roberts among those to seek out transgressions of the timber order),
  • 76 (25 January 1673, John Roberts and Jereme Tebbets to improve/have temporary possession of six acres),
  • 77 (18 June 1674, John Roberts and John Hall to develop information about James Nute, sen vs Philip Cromwell),
  • 78 (September 1675, homes at Oyster River burned, "William Roberts and his son-in-law killed"; related orders),
  • 79-80 (1675 Dover Neck and Cochecho "Provision Rate"),
  • 83-84 (22 October 1677, petition in opposition to Mason Claim),
  • 85 (18 September 1679, John Roberts nominated as marshal),
  • 89-90 (1685, Mason litigation, suits entered against many at Dover, including John Roberts, Thomas Roberts),
  • 90 (27 April 1687, rate set for relief of widow Dorothy Roberts …"),
  • 94 (1 January 1690, following overthrow of Andros Massachusetts government, Lieut. John Roberts one of six commissioners to work with other towns regarding government),
  • 115 (25 May 1713),
  • 117 (11 April 1715, Thomas Roberts stood for Assembly),
  • 118-120 (11 May 1716, record regarding differences between Dover Neck and Cochecha,signatories include Ltt Joseph Roberts/Jos Robbarts and mr Thomas Robbarts senr, both of Dover Neck; 28 May 1716, Joseph Roberts one of those chosen to joined with the selectman to call a minister in order to reach an agreement),
  • 140 (1745),
  • 194 (11 October 1806, wife of Mr. Roberts of Dover delivered of three … boys …),
  • 261 (22 February 1854, Aaron Roberts of Dover Neck),
  • also 271, 277, 293, 296,
  • 326 (Roberts in index); digital images, InternetArchive.
  • 1811. William Sewell, The History of the Rise, Increase, and Progress of the Christian people, called Quakers (Philadelphia, B. & T. Kite, and S. Pike, 1811), 563-564 ([1662, Dover]); digital images, HathiTrust.
[1662] Not long after these woman returned to Dover to visit their friends ; and being in a meeting the next first day of the week, the constables, Thomas Roberts and his brother John, rushed in and laid hands on Alice Ambrose as she was in prayer, and taking her, one by the one arm, and the other by the other, they dragged her out of doors, almost a mile, with her face towards the snow, which was near knee deep, over stumps and old trees, having put on their old old clothes on purpose, not to dirty their better suits. Then they locked her up in a certain house, and so went back to fetch Mary Tomkins, whom they dragged in the same manner, which their father, old Thomas Roberts seekng, lamented and cried, "Wo that ever I was father to such wicked children." But they seemed not to matter what their father said, who had been a member of the church at Dover above twenty years; but because he no longer frequented their worship for their degeneracy, they took away his cow, which with its milk helped to support him and his wife. Mary Tomkins being brought into the house where Alice was, Anne Coleman was also fetched ...
  • 1923. Lora Altine Woodbury Underhill, Descendants of Edward Small of New England, 3 vols., paginated continuously (Boston, Houghton Mifflin company, 1934), 2:1097-1153 (Roberts Family) at 1107+ (Thomas^1 Roberts), and at 1116, for items below; digital images, HathiTrust
  • citing "New Hampshire Deeds, Book 1:5," for 21 June 1641, Thomas Roberts to John West.
  • citing "New Hampshire Deeds, Book 1:17," for 1643, [Thomas Roberts] to Thomas Withers.
  • citing "New Hampshire Deeds, Book 6:229," for reference in 1642 to a Dover grant (probably made earlier) of 20 acres to Thomas Roberts, "in the bottom of Rial's Cove."
  • without further reference, Thomas Roberts 1644 acknowledgment of a judgement against him.
  • citing "New Hampshire Deeds, Book 1:51," for a suit, "Thomas Roberts and henry Tibbots vs ffrancis Cham P noune."
  • citing "New Hampshire Deeds, Book 8:94," for 17 June 1658, Thomas Roberts to Richard Rowe, a "house and land at Welshman's Cove, 'Pascataqua' River (Newington)"
  • citing "New Hampshire Deeds, Book 3:129-a," for 1 July 1669, Thomas Roberts, Senr., and wife Rebecca, to John York, certain "land at Durham."
  • 1853. Alonzo H. Quint, "Genealogical Items relating to the early settlers of Dover, N. H.," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 7 (1853):356 (Roberts), in particular part; digital images, HathiTrust.
  • 1856. Citing the "second volume of Deeds in the Registry at Exeter, N. H.," "Ancient Inquest in New Hampshire," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 22 (1868):72; digital images, HathiTrust, inquest issued "the first month : 1655," for the death of Thomas Tuttell … the sonne of John Tuttell of Dover" whose body was found "the last day of he last March (54)."
  • 1879. Alonzo H. Quint, "Notes on the Dover (N. H.) Combination," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 33 (1879):98 (Thomas Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust, "The tradition that he came with the Hiltons should be abandoned"; lists his children.
  • 1955. "Memoirs," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 109 (1955):151 (Mrs. William Henry Moore/Ada Waterman Small); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, for her Roberts descent from "'Governor' Thomas Roberts of Dover …, by 1640."
  • 1931. Charles Edward Banks, History of York, Maine, successively known as Bristol (1632), Agamenticus (1641), Gorgeana (1642), and York (1652) (Boston, Mass. [Calkins Press], 1931), 303 (Ann Heard); digital images, InternetArchive, "credited to York in the list of Canadian captives, but she was the daughter of Benjamin and Elizabeth (Roberts) Heard of Dover, N.H. She may have been visiting York when captured or was in service in the town. .... She married in Canada." GJ note--This was the only item that returned when searching for "Roberts," MCM note--Category: Raid on York.
  • 1913. Everett S. Stackpole, Winthrop S. Meserve, Lucien Thompson, History of the town of Durham, New Hampshire (Oyster River Plantation) … 2 vols. ([Durham? N.H.] Pub. by vote of the town [1913]),
  • 2 (in Birth … of the town); digital images, HathiTrust.
  • 5-6 (Dover Combination); digital images, HathiTrust.
  • 9-10 (rate at Oyster river); digital images, HathiTrust, Richard York, William Roberts and John Martin are all at Oyster River; "…list shows that twenty-tree out of fifty-three inhabitants of Dover lived at Oyster River."
  • 31-33 (locations) "Next north of Richard York lived John Martin, who married Hester, daughter of Thomas Roberts of Dover Neck," and quotes from a grant of 1664 and "ani former grant." Refers to conveyance of the dwelling house by Martin and wife Hester of 20 September 1667.
  • 35 (Pinder-York-Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust, "John York had bought this land of Thomas Roberts, senior, 1 July 1669 …"
  • 52, 56 (William Roberts … before 1648); digital images, HathiTrust, at 56, "Willam Roberts … was killed by Indians in 1675 … William Pitman … had, perhaps, married Roberts daughter, Ann."
  • 60; digital images, HathiTrust, mention of "Mr. Roberts" as boundary.
  • 85-86 (Wiliam Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust, "Hubbard records that [in 1675] the Indians burned five or six houses at Oyster River and killed two men, William Roberts and his son-in-law … who the son in law was has not been ascertained. Five sons-in-law are mentioned after this date as living, and only five daughters have been found. He had a son, Wlllam Roberts, Jr. … not mentioned anywhere after 1675 … may have been the one who was killed with his father." See related in William Hubbard and Samuel Gardner Drake, The History of the Indian Wars in New England ..., 2 vols. (Roxbury, Mass. : Printed for W.E. Woodward, 1865), 2:116 (William Roberts); digital images, InternetArchive.
  • 2013. Jeanie Roberts, "Thomas Roberts of Woolaston, Gloucester and Dover, New Hampshire 1600-1673," The Family Connection, blog post of 5 January 2013; web content, jeaniesgenealogy.com
  • 2002. Stephen, "Governor Thomas Roberts of Dover (New Hampshire)," blog of 5 November 2002; web content, robertsofwolaston.blogspot.
  • 2015. Frederic Z Saunders, "[Roberts]," family genealogical file last revised 3 June 2015; web content, netcom.com.

New Hampshire State Papers

Summary These volumes were edited variously by Nathaniel Bouton, Isaac W. Hammond, Albert Stillman Batchellor, Henry Harrison Metcalf, and Otis Grant Hammond; index (in part), Index (downloaded), 51 for all Thomas Roberts entries,

  • 1 (1623 to 1686):118, 119, 128, 487, 515-540, 561;
  • 2 (1686 to 1722):36, 37, 516, 533, 542;
  • 9 (App. Constitutional Conventions of 1778-79, 1781-83, and state constitution of 1784):155, 164, 168, 174; [skipped]
  • 10 (1773 & 1786 Census, Ancient Grants, etc.):701;
  • 11 (Town Papers, A-F):506-555 (Dover) at 509, 518, 546;
  • 12 (Gilmanton to New Ipswich/and docs returned since Vol. 11):338, 343; [??]
  • 14 (Rev War ...):23, 127; [skipped]
  • 16 (Rev War ...):898; [skipped]
  • 17 (Rev War ...):11, 502, 513, 525; [skipped]
  • 19 (Records of the President and Council):660;
  • 24 (Grants made by Mass. and NH):695-700 (Dover) at 697 (Taxes in Dover, 1741).;
  • 25 (Grants of Townships):746 (Dover Combination);
  • 30 (Misc. Rev War):20, 128; [skipped]
  • 31 (Probate Records, 1635-1717 Vol. 1):145-146 (will), 338 (warrant of 1704), 339 (1705), 394 (Jenkins inventory 1694), 398 (Knight inventory 1694), 401 (Drew inventory 1694), 425 (witness to Evans will, 1696/7), 534, 558, 622, 769, 772, 815;
  • 33 (Probate Records Vol. 3 1741-1749):337, 338; [skipped]
  • 34 (Probate Records Vol. 4 1750-1753):108, 117; 37:166; [skipped]
  • 40 (New Hampshire court records, 1640-1692. Court papers, 1652-1668):4 (1641 suit), 11, 16, 20, 34, 73, 80, 110, 118, 144, 172, 185-192, 214, 217, 265, 276, 281, 307, 312, 314, 333, 358, 380, 390, 405, 456, 483, 504, 525.

Pope

Charles Henry Pope, The pioneers of Maine and New Hampshire, 1623 to 1660 ... (Boston, Mass., C.H. Pope, 1908), 175 (Roberts); digital images, HathTrust.

Savage

James Savage, A genealogical dictionary of the first settlers of New England ..., 4 vols. (Boston, Little, Brown and Company, 1860-1862), 3:547 (Roberts); digital images, InternetArchive.

GDMNH

Sybil Noyes, Charles Thornton Libby and Water Goodwin Davis, Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire (Portland, Maine, Southworth Press [originally in 5 parts, paginated consecutively], 1928-1938; rpt, Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2012),

New England Marriages

Roberts-_____ 1628 marriage, New England Marriages Prior to 1700, 3 vols. (Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015), 2:1283 (Roberts); database and digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, works consulted as "Reg. 33:98, 109:151; Newell Anc. 98; Blake-Glidden 211; Dover NH Mar. 177; Rich 19-20; Lord 7; Sanborn Anc. 29; Wentworth 1:503; Stackpole 106; GDMNH 589." See Sources-Torrey.

  • Reg. 33:98--A. H. Quint, "Notes on the Dover (N. H.) Combination," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 33 (1879):98 (Thomas Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust, "The tradition that he came with the Hiltons should be abandoned"; lists his children.
  • Reg. 109:151--"Memoirs," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 109 (1955):151 (Mrs. William Henry Moore/Ada Waterman Small); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, for her Roberts descent from "'Governor' Thomas Roberts of Dover …, by 1640."
  • Newell Anc. 98--William Morrell Emery, Newell Ancestry: The Story of the Antecedents of William Stark Newell (Boston: privately printed, 1944), 98 (Thomas Roberts); digital images, InternetArchive (borrow).
  • Blake-Glidden 211--Blake-Glidden 212--Edith (Bartlett) Sumner, Ancestry of Edward Wales Blake and Clarissa Matilda Glidden with Ninety Allied Families (Los Angeles, 1948), 211-212 (Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust. Authorities,
  • Descendants of Edward Small, pp. 1097--Lora Altine Woodbury Underhill, Descendants of Edward Small of New England, 3 vols., paginated continuously (Boston, Houghton Mifflin company, 1934), 2:1097-1153 (Roberts Family) at 1107+ (Thomas^1 Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust
  • Descendants of Edward Small, pp. 1118--Lora Altine Woodbury Underhill, Descendants of Edward Small of New England, 3 vols., paginated continuously (Boston, Houghton Mifflin company, 1934), 2:1097-1153 (Roberts Family) at 1118-1119 (children of Thomas^1); digital images, HathiTrust.
  • Stearns: Genealogy of New Hampshire, p. 1504--Ezra S. Stearns, Genealogical and Family History of the State of New Hampshire …, 4 vols., paginated continuously (New York, Chicago : The Lewis Pub. Co., 1908), 1504-1506 (Roberts) at 1504; digital images, HathiTrust.
  • Scales: History of Dover, N. H., pp. 5, 302--John Scales, History of Dover, New Hampshire, Volume 1 ([Manchester, N.H., J.B. Clarke Co.] 1923), 302-310 (Roberts Family); digital images, HathiTrust.
  • Noyes, Libby, Davis: Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire.
  • History of York, Me., Vol. 2:47-- Charles Edward Banks, History of York, Maine, successively known as Bristol (1632), Agamenticus (1641), Gorgeana (1642), and York (1652)', 2 vols. (Boston, Mass. [Calkins Press], 1931), 2:47 (William Hilton); digital images, HathiTrust.
  • N. H. Provincial and State Papers, Vol. 31:145--Albert Stillman Batchellor, Probate Records ... Vol 1, 1635-1717 in New Hampshire State Papers, 40 vols. (1867-1943), 31 (Probate Records, 1635-1717 Vol.1):145-146 (Thomas Roberts will); digital images, InternetArchive.
  • Dover NH Mar. 177--John R. Ham, Dover, New Hampshire Marriages, 1623–1823, typescript (Dover, N.H., 1880–1902), 177; digital images, navigate from the FamilySearch catalog entry to page viewer 185, for select entries,
  • Roberts, Thomas [by hand^1], Will dated 27 Sept. 1673: proved June 30, 1674, and Rebecca -----, m. early as 1629.
  • Roberts, William [by hand^1], killed 1675, and -----, m. early as 1655.
  • Roberts, "Sergeant" John [by hand^2], b. 1629: d. 21 Jan. 1694-5, and Abigail Nutter, dau. Hatevil, living on Dec. 28, 1674, m. about 1650.
  • Roberts, Thomas [by hand^2], b. 1633, constable in 1662 and whipped Quaker woman by order of Walderne, and Mary Leighton, dau. Thomas, m. early as 1664.
  • Rich 19-20--George Rich, Early Rich History and Ancestry of Jonathan Rich, Jr., Ft. Covington, N.Y. (Cleveland, 1922), 19-20 (Allied Lines, Roberts); digital images, InternetArchive.
  • Lord 7--Harold M. Lord, The Windham, Maine, Branch of the Nathan Lord Family of Kittery, Maine (n.p., n.d.), 7-8 (Roberts entries); digital images, FamlySearch, FSL film 10393 (item 13), image group (DGS) 8128188, images 482-483 of 544; see also, FamilySearch catalog entry.
  • Sanborn Anc. 29--Frederick Rockwell Sanborn, The Ancestry of Frederick Rockwell Gladstone Sanborn, 2 vols. ([Brooklyn?] : Priv. print., 1928-33), 29 (Philbrick); digital images, HathiTrust.
  • Wentworth 1:503--John Wentworth, The Wentworth Genealogy: England and America, 3 vols. (Boston: Little, Brown, 1878), 1:503-506 (following Joanna^4 Wentworth); digital images, InternetArchive.
  • Stackpole 106--Everett S. Stackpole, History and Genealogy of the Stackpole Family, 2nd ed. (Lewiston, Me.: Journal Printshop & Bindery, 1920), 105-106 (29-Tobias Stacpole), including footnote at 106; digital images, InternetArchive.
  • GDMNH 589--Sybil Noyes, Charles Thornton Libby and Water Goodwin Davis, Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire (Portland, Maine, Southworth Press [in 5 parts, paginated consecutively], 1928-1938; Boston, Massachusetts : New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2012), 589 (11-Thomas Roberts, Dover); digital images, InternetArchive (borrow).

Research Notes

Deeds Early deeds may often memorialize depositions and agreements other than land transscations. Sadly, the FamilySearch library films are restricted, see "Province [New Hampshire] deeds and probate records from 1623-1772", FamilySearch catalog entry. Comment includes, "Many of these records have been published, omitting legal phraseology, in the New Hampshire State Papers volumes 31-39, chronologically arranged." [X-3336--vols. 31-39 are the volumes pertaining to New Hampshire Probate Records.]

Court

Who was the widow Barbara Davis Brimblecome? See Thomas Chadwell (abt.1611-1683) for his second wife.

Facts based on Sources

This section includes statements of fact that are supported by cited sources.
Thomas Roberts signed the Dover Combination in 1640.[1][2]
Thomas Roberts appears in a 1641 London Fishmongers Guild list of "Emigrant Liverymen"; he is listed immediately after Edward Hilton and both are noted as being "in New England". [1][3][4][5]
Thomas Roberts died between 27 Sep 1673 and 30 Jun 1674, the dates of his will and probate.[6][7][8][9]
Thomas Roberts was buried in the northeast corner of the Old Burying Ground at Dover Neck.[1][7][9]

Disputed or Unsubstantiated Facts

This section includes statements of fact that are disputed or unsubstantiated by primary sources. Examples include statements extracted from genealogy books, and those which are prefaced with statements such "It is said that..."
Thomas Roberts was born in England about 1600, according to deposition.[6][4]
Thomas Roberts was born in 1600, son of John Roberts of Woolaston, Worcester, England.[1][6]
Thomas Roberts was son of John Roberts of Woolaston, county of Wooster.[5]
Thomas Roberts was apprenticed to the Fishmongers' Guild on 22 Sep 1622.[6][4]
Thomas was a yeoman who was put apprentice to William Adys, as recorded by the London Fishmonger's Guild in 1615.[5]
Capt. Edward Brawnde, leaving England in March, is said to have reached Monhegan 20 April 1616, where he met Sir Richard Hawkins, with whom he had some trouble.[10]
Capt.Edward Brawnde left Dartmouth on 8 March and arrive at Monhegan on 20 April 1616. Brawnde went on Cape Cod. His boats were detained by Sir Richard Hawkins. [11]
Thomas Roberts is listed as a crew member on the Nachem while it was at Monhegan.[12]
Thomas Roberts was accepted as a freeman by the Fishmongers' Guild, "admitted and sworn on 29 April 1623."[5]
Thomas Roberts was a member of the Fishmonger's Guild.[3]
Thomas Roberts is said to have come over with Edward Hilton in 1623.[3][13]
Thomas Roberts did not come over with the Hilton brothers in 1623 because the Hilton brothers were not in New England in 1623. Moreover, citing the absence of Thomas Roberts from Robert Charles Anderson's work, Jeanie Roberts asserts that nobody can really say when Thomas Roberts arrived in New England. [5]
Thomas Roberts was among the only settlers at Dover in 1623, along with the Hilton brothers.[1][7]
Thomas Roberts came over on "The Providence of Plymouth" in Spring 1623, along with the Hilton brothers and their families. [1][8][14]
Thomas Roberts was not married when he came over, but was probably married in 1627.[6]
Thomas Roberts widow was Rebecca; she is said to have been a sister of William and Edward Hilton.[1][6][4][8]
Thomas Roberts was elected to replace John Underhill as Governor (or President) of Dover in 1640. [3][1][6][4][7][8]
Thomas Roberts owned land on the east side of Dover Neck and also on the west side of Back River.[7]
Thomas Roberts was a jury member of an inquest into the death of Thomas Tuttle in 1655.[15]
Thomas Roberts was a member of the church for twenty years until 1662, when, as President of the Court, he rebuked his sons for their excessive virulence in enforcing the laws against the Quakers.[1][7]
Thomas Roberts adopted the Quaker faith in 1662.[1]
Thomas Roberts and his wife Rebecca are named in a deed of land to son John on 1 July 1669.[4]
Thomas Roberts sold land to John York on 1 July 1669.[16]
Thomas Roberts wife in 1669 was Rebecca.[3][1]
Thomas Roberts removed from Hilton Point to The Neck and located his house on the high bank of Fore River.[6]

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 Edith (Bartlett) Sumner, Ancestry of Edward Wales Blake and Clarissa Matilda Glidden with Ninety Allied Families (Los Angeles, 1948), 211-212 (Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust.
  2. Everett S. Stackpole, Winthrop S. Meserve, Lucien Thompson, History of the town of Durham, New Hampshire (Oyster River Plantation) … 2 vols. ([Durham? N.H.] Pub. by vote of the town. (Dover Compact) p.5-6. (Accessed 14 Apr 2023) https://hdl.handle.net/2027/uc2.ark:/13960/t6xw4qw0n?urlappend=%3Bseq=23
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 Sybil Noyes, Charles Thornton Libby and Water Goodwin Davis, Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire (Portland, Maine, Southworth Press [in 5 parts, paginated consecutively], 1928-1938; Boston, Massachusetts : New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2012), p.589. (11-Thomas Roberts, Dover); digital images, InternetArchive (borrow).
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 Lora Altine Woodbury Underhill, Descendants of Edward Small of New England, 3 vols., paginated continuously (Boston, Houghton Mifflin company, 1934), 2:1097-1153 (Roberts Family) at p.1107+ (Thomas^1 Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 Jeanie Roberts, "Thomas Roberts of Woolaston, Gloucester and Dover, New Hampshire 1600-1673," The Family Connection, blog post of 5 January 2013; web content, jeaniesgenealogy.com
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 6.6 6.7 John Scales, History of Dover, New Hampshire, Volume 1 ([Manchester, N.H., J.B. Clarke Co.] 1923), 302-310 (Roberts Family); digital images, HathiTrust.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 Alonzo H. Quint, "Genealogical Items relating to the early settlers of Dover, N. H.," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 7 (1853):356 (Roberts), in particular part; digital images, p.356. HathiTrust.
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 Alonzo H. Quint, "Notes on the Dover (N. H.) Combination," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 33 (1879):98 (Thomas Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust, "The tradition that he came with the Hiltons should be abandoned"; lists his children. p.98.
  9. 9.0 9.1 Find a Grave (Accessed 11 Apr 2023) https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35126239/thomas-roberts
  10. Charles Francis Jenney. "The Fortunate Island of Monhegan". Captain Edward Brawnde on p.12. Full Text
  11. Justin Winsor. "Narrative and critical history of America",1831-1897. Publication date c1884-c89. p.181-182. (Accessed 10 Apr 2023) https://archive.org/details/narrcrithistory03winsrich/page/180/mode/2up?q=brawnde
  12. Edward D. Neill, "Voyage of Edward Brawnde in 1616 to Kennebec and Cape Cod: also, Letter of Capt. John Smith, about 1606," The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 28 (1874):248-251; digital images, HathiTrust.
  13. Everett S. Stackpole,et al. (Edward Hilton and Thomas Roberts to Dover) p.2. (Accessed 12 Apr 2023) https://hdl.handle.net/2027/uc2.ark:/13960/t6xw4qw0n?urlappend=%3Bseq=20
  14. Previous: Alonzo H. Quint disputes that Thomas Roberts came over with the Hiltons.
  15. The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, for the year 1868. Citing the "second volume of Deeds in the Registry at Exeter, N. H."
  16. Everett S. Stackpole, et al., (Thomas Roberts sold land to John York on 1 July 1669.) p.35. (Accessed 14 Apr 2023) https://hdl.handle.net/2027/uc2.ark:/13960/t6xw4qw0n?urlappend=%3Bseq=53




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Noyes cites: Willem Sewel. "The History of the Rise, Increase, and Progress of the Christian People called Quakers."

Thomas Roberts is mentioned. "He rebuked his sons for their official cruelty to that sect."

posted by Murray Maloney
Gene, I wonder whether you might consider it appropriate and even helpful to add a Section "Facts based on Sources" in which we could begin to extract "facts" from these sources, with citations as appropriate. I think that this would help me to begin to collect material that later could be transferred to his profile.

On the other hand, you may have a different strategy in mind.

posted by Murray Maloney
That is an excellent suggestion, Murray.

I am still digging in the hope of finding the immigrant's elusive deposition. It is reported about over and over again, and the source for the claim that he was born in 1600 ... but I'm still seeking a citation for that record. --Gene

Edited to add: Any idea about the historical record in which that deposition is hiding? Have you ever seen a citation for it?

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Like you, I see the deposition mentioned often, but no source is ever cited.
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A source for the letter is cited...

From: The Project Gutenberg eBook, Narrative and Critical History of America, Vol. III (of 8), by Various, Edited by Justin Winsor. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/50987/50987-0.txt

"...A full account of his transactions in New England would be very interesting; but the account of Gorges, in connection with Brawnde’s Letter to Smith, must suffice.[418]"

[418] See the letter in _N. E. Hist. and Geneal. Reg._, 1874, p. 248; and the Cotton Manuscripts, British Museum. Also Neill’s _Colonization_, p. 91.

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Life on the edge: Community and trade on the Anglo -American periphery, Pemaquid, Maine, 1610--1689

Neill De Paoli University of New Hampshire, Durham.

Captain Edward Brawnde cited twice; Ftnt 42 on p.21 and Ftnt 39 on p.51.

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/215514462.pdf

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"The Fortunate Island of Monhegan"

A Historical Monograph By CHARLES FRANCIS JENNEY Captain Edward Brawnde on p.12. Full Text: https://archive.org/stream/fortunateislando00jenn/fortunateislando00jenn_djvu.txt

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"Travels and works of Captain John Smith, President of Virginia, and Admiral of New England" / edited by Edward Arber.

Contributors Smith, John, 1580-1631. Arber, Edward, 1836-1912. Bradley, A. G. 1850-1943. Publication/Creation Edinburgh : John Grant, 1910. Persistent URL https://wellcomecollection.org/works/qga23bgv

I have not yet found a searchable version of this book. Brawnde's letter may be included or not.

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The letter is mentioned again in:

"Narrative and critical history of America" by Winsor, Justin, 1831-1897. Publication date c1884-c89. Visible notice of copyright and date; stated date is 1884; not published by the US government; Have not checked for notice of renewal in the Copyright renewal records. (Accessed 10 Apr 2023) https://archive.org/details/narrcrithistory03winsrich/page/180/mode/2up?q=brawnde

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Gene, this collection of sources is astounding, considering that you are in the process of moving. How the heck do you do that? You must have super-duper access creds. I have followed all of the links that I can access. (At least one link led me to a paywall.) However, nothing I have seen ties our Thomas Roberts to the Thomas Roberts on the crew of the Nachem at Monhegan.
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Hi Murray,

Thank you for your kind words, and for your question.

At least I believe the work has to proceed on at least two fronts. We need to learn all we can about Edward Brawnde and those who made up the "typical fishing crew" as per The Nachem at Monhegan (1616).[1]

At the same time, while so much work was done by others about the Thomas Roberts we know was of New England, we haven't captured that research, including his associations.

If you haven't seen it, Robert Charles Anderson wrote about the methodology he used for the Great Migration sketches. Hoping you can access his description--pages xix-xxiv of his introduction to GMB vol. 1, A-F at https://media.americanancestors.org/uploadedfiles/american_ancestors/content/databases/pdfs/greatmigration/gmbeginsintrov1.pdf (pdf), for "Methods: Constructing a Sketch" (begins at page 17 of 75 in the pdf).

Then, to get a good genealogical picture, our effort should continue by addressing Thomas' known family members.

More later.--Gene

[1] Burrage says Brawnde wrote a letter giving an account of the adventure to "his worthy good friend Captain John Smith." See Henry S. Burrage, The Beginnings of Colonial Maine, 1602-1658 ([Portland, Me.] : Printed for the state, 1914), 134-135; digital images, HathiTrust. Do you know if we have a citation for that letter?

Edited to add. (a) Have continued to plug away at some things late at night or early in the a.m., including a first stab at sorting the children. Gonna add some more references now; (b) may create another space page to record research about the children. (c) Underhill's work on Edward Small seems to have a number of references; may need to spend some more time on that.

Edited to add: Edward D. Neill, "Voyage of Edward Brawnde in 1616 to Kennebec and Cape Cod: also, Letter of Capt. John Smith, about 1606," The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 28 (1874):248-251; digital images, HathiTrust.

Edited to add: Lora Altine Woodbury Underhill, Descendants of Edward Small of New England, 3 vols., paginated continuously (Boston, Houghton Mifflin company, 1934), 2:1097-1153 (Roberts Family) at 1099-1107 (overview of the surname), 1107-1108 (different English families), 1108-1112 (Smith, Hilton, etc.); digital images, HathiTrust.

Edited to add: William Sewell, The History of the Rise, Increase, and Progress of the Christian people, called Quakers (Philadelphia, B. & T. Kite, and S. Pike, 1811), 563-564 ([1662, Dover]); digital images, HathiTrust.

Edited to add: A word on Reliable Sources - FYI - Nathaniel Bouton, Provincial Papers .... 1623-1686 in New Hampshire State Papers, 40 vols. (1867-1943), 1:118 ([Notice]); digital images, InternetArchive, for (quoting), "In the absence of Town Records of Dover previous to 1647, our knowledge of affairs in the early period of that settlement is gathered from statements made by Belknap, in his History of New-Hampshire, from Winthrop's and Hubbard's history, and from " Historical Memoranda," by Rev. A. H. Quint, D. D., published in numbers in Dover Enquirer, beginning in 1850; and in N. E. Gen. Reg., Vols. V, VI, VII, VIII. Ed."

  • Reference--Belknap, History of New-Hampshire/The History of New Hampshire. See Jeremy Belknap, The History of New Hampshire, 3 vols. (Philadelphia [Pa.] : Printed for the author by Robert Aitken, 1784-1792), 1: 46 (Governor). 176 (1680/John Roberts, marshal), 184 (1681/Dow, marshal), 196 (1683/Thomas Roberts as major land holder), 238 (1689-1690), Appendix xlix; digital images, HathiTrust.
  • Reference--Winthrop's History
  • Reference--Hubbard's History (A General History of New England, From the Discovery to MDCLXXX (1815), but see also The History of the Indian Wars in New England, London 1677; Roxbury, Mass. 1865, other publication dates as 1801 and 1814?)
  • Reference--Alonzo H. Quint, Dover Enquirer
  • Reference--Alonzo H. Quint, "Genealogical Items Relating to the Early Settlers of Dover, N. H.," The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 5 (1851):449-464; 6 (1852):35-39, 258-261, 329-334; 7 (1853):47-52, 155-158, 255-260, 353-356; 8 (1854):63-68, 129-134, 263-264 at 356 (Roberts); digital images, HathiTrust.
  • Separately, see

Edited to add: See Anderson's profiling of Edward Hilton for an assessment of Hilton's arrival. Reference--The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633 (1995), 947-951 AmercanAncestors, by subscription. Anderson writes (p. 950) "As Noyes, Libby and Davis note, "[t]he historian Hubbard cared little about the eastern country, and his paragraph about the founding of N.H. ... is mostly false. Hilton did not vome to Pscataqua with David Thompson in 1623 and Chr[istopher] Levett's book proves no settlement had been made up the river in the spring of 1624 ...," citing "GDMNH 334." Anderson placed Edward Hilton on the Piscataqua "after 1624, but no later than 1628." Writing further (emphasis added), "Many later historians have been misled by Hubbard's version of Hilton's settlement."

Anderson published a short sketch of Christopher Levett. Reference--Robert Charles Anderson, Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to N.E. 1620-1633, Vols. I-III, 3 vols., paginated continuously (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995), 1180-1181 (Christopher Levett); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.

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