Tissott Family Mysteries

Location: Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Surname/tag: Tissot

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Research Notes

It appears very likely that Joseph Tissott, was not born in England, but instead was a Frenchman (born in France). There are Staffordshire Court Records that record Joseph Tissott as being robbed on his way home to Brewood by John Hodgkiss and John Field of a tobacco box, one sovereign and five shillings. The verdict was guilty with a judgement of death is noted. Importantly, the judge and prosecutors note that ".. the prosecutor is an old Frenchman and it was with difficulty that they could understand his broken English. The constable said that Hodgkiss had the tobacco box on this person and that Hodgkiss denied robbing the Old Frenchman" . www.findmypast.co.uk ^[1]

Census Birthplace - Holland or New Holland Examination of the 1841 Census image more likely states in the column for "Birthplace- Out of County, England, Ireland, Foreign", here the note is "Non - Holland", not New Holland. There is an underscore beneath "Non" and Holland is likely a guess by the person recording the details. This further supports the fact that Joseph was "French". www.findmypast.co.uk ^[2]

Joseph as a POW in England from Napoleonic conflicts There is speculation that Joseph was a french Prisoner of War as a sailor in the Napoleonic conflicts. There are at least 3 candidates according to Findmypast, however, these records refer to a Joseph M and we have not seen Joseph refered to as a Joseph M so these may not be valid. The pages are here www.findmypast.co.uk ^[3]

New Holland as a village, Lincolnshire According to experts, New Holland as a village (the one in Lincolnshire) did not properly exist until the coming of the railway in 1848, though it had been the site of a ferry across the Humber before that. When the name New Holland first came into use (possibly with the railway?) has not been found. However an Ordnance Survey map of 1803 shows its location as [Barrow Ferry https://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/maps/sheet/os_unions_1803_1838_se/Hull_1803_1838] So it seems unlikely that someone would say they were born in New Holland in the mid-1700s in the 1841 census if the village name was not yet in existance.

In the meantime, we are reasonably confident that Joseph was a frenchman, birthplace unknown

There is an extended family of Tissett's in the west countries that will be explored

There is a Henry Tissett in hospital in 1794. St Thomas's Hospital: Hospital Admission and Discharge Registers, TH | RH, 12th December 1793 - 15th October 1795, About this document type - Currently Held: London Metropolitan Archives, LL ref: LMTHRH554100049, Image 49 of 37217th April 1794. Note image is available. www.londonlives.org ^[4]

Sources

1. ↑ Staffordshire Assizes... John Hodgkiss and John Field) were indicted for robbing Joseph Tissott, on the King's highway, at Brewood, and stealing from his persona tobacco box, containing one sovereign and five shillings 19 March 1836 - Staffordshire Advertiser - Stafford, Staffordshire, England.
2. ↑ Joseph Tipsett/Tissett aged 75 years, occupation - rag man, Birthplace - Out of Country column - Non/Holland. Full address -Bishops Wood, Brewood, Penkridge, Staffordshire, England.
3. ↑ Findmypast records of a Joseph M Tissot, sailor, captured at sea.

   Tissot, Joseph M, 1805, Prisoners Of War 1715-1945, England

   Tissot, Joseph M, 1807, Prisoners Of War 1715-1945, England

   Tissot, J B, 1809, Prisoners Of War 1715-1945, England

   Tissot, J Ns, 1779, 1805, Prisoners Of War 1715-1945, England

   Records from a French source have two possibilities of sailors captured and transferred from a ship the Temeraire, These correspond to the Joseph M above. However it is likely that Joseph M is NOT our Joseph as we have never found a reference to his second name.

   Téméraire, un cotre lancé sous le nom de Révolutionnaire et renommé en 1795. Capturé par le HMS Dido le 13 avril 1795, il est repris le mois suivant par les Français, avant d'être à nouveau capturé le 9 juillet 1795.

   Téméraire, un aviso corsaire (1803-1811).

4. ↑ Patients. Dr. Fordyce. - Abr Richd. Normington, Jac Jas Osborn, King Davd. Jenkin, Edw Geo. Lomas, Will Willm. Tubbs, Geo Sam. Brady Ex, John Payne Ex, Lyd Mary Newland, Rebec Merchant Ex, Qu Ann Alexander, Ann Prudence Clarke, Ann Pincher, Eliz Ann. Alexander, Dr. Blane. - Is Jno. Penner Fryers Ex, Qu Hanh. Haley Ex., Mary Eliz. Brown, Dr. Crawford. - King John Richardson Ex, Will Will Towne, Geo John Wilson, John Hall, Heny. Tissett, Lyd Ann Blyth, Sar White Ex, Qu Eliz. Glass act,