upload image

Unknown (Hopkins/Hawkins)-Long-Green Notes 2022

Privacy Level: Open (White)
Date: [unknown] [unknown]
Location: [unknown]
Profile manager: GeneJ X private message [send private message]
This page has been accessed 72 times.

Contents

WikiTree Pages of Interest

Bibliographic Notes

  • 1879. Thomas Bellows Wyman, The Genealogies and Estates of Charlestown ... 1629-1818, 2 vols. (Boston : D. Clapp, 1879), 1:435-436 (Jacob [3] Green/Greene); digital images, InternetArchive.
  • 1879. Thomas Bellows Wyman, The Genealogies and Estates of Charlestown ... 1629-1818, 2 vols. (Boston : D. Clapp, 1879), 2:625-628 (Long) at 625 (1-Robert^1 Long) and 626 (Robert^2, Samuel^2); digital images, InternetArchive. Error in Print--reports Robert^2 Long died at Barbados, quoting John Winthrop, "Mr. Long who m. Capt. Hawkins daughter is dead"; gives his wife as Elizabeth Hawkins [12] married (2) Jacob Green.
  • 1995 - John^1 Green/Greene. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., paginated continuously (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995), 811-813 (John Greene) at 812 (Jacob^2 Green in child list); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  • Jacob Green born about 1632 (deposed x2, cites Pope and Wyman), married by 1654, Elizabeth _____ (eldest child born Charlestown, 11 October 1654, cites ChVR 1:155) .
  • 2005 - Robert^1 Long. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume IV, I-L (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2005), 316-320 (Robert Long) at 319 (son, Robert^2 Long); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  • Wife of Robert^2 Long is _____ _____; married is by 1647, "only known child b. Charlestown 23 April 1647," citing "ChVR 1:10."
  • That she was not Elizabeth Hawkins, Anderson cites "WP 5:267" (1648 letter), and "Aspinwall 100, 225, GMB 1577, 2041" (Nathaniel Long (abt.1622-1648)).

Biography

Elizabeth's birth and parentage are unknown or unproven (see Research Notes). She was born, perhaps England, about 1625 (if age 21 at first marriage). Elizabeth died between 22 April 1658 (named the will of her father-in-law Green)[1][2] and 1661 (husband married again).

Elizabeth married (1), perhaps Charlestown, about 1646 (birth of child, 23 April 1647), Robert2 Long Jr. He was baptized St. Albans Abbey, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England, 17 January 1618/9,[3] and died before 3 October 1651 (date of inventory).[4] Robert2 Long was the son of Robert Long and Sarah Taylor;[5] he was "aged 16" at the time the family immigrated to Massachusetts Bay Colony, aboard the Defence in 1635, departing Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England.[6][7]

Elizabeth (____) Long married (2), probably Charlestown, by 1654 (birth of child, 11 October 1654), Jacob2 Green. He was born, probably England, about 1623 (aged 36 in 1657 and 33 in 1660),[8][9] and he died after 17 June 1681 (granted administration of William Bartholomew's estate).[10]

Jacob Green was the son of John Green and his first wife, probably, Perseverance.[11] Jacob Green immigrated to New England aboard the James in 1632.[12]

Following Elizabeth's death, Jacob married again, by 1661,[13] Mary (Bartholomew) Whipple. She was the widow of Matthew Whipple and daughter of William Bartholomew.[14]

Family

Robert2 and Elizabeth (_____) Long were the parents of one child,

  1. Samuel Long, born in Charlestown, Massachusetts Bay Colony, 23 April 1647,[15] died there 15 September 1671;[16][17] married in Charlestown, 20 January 1668/9, Elizabeth Pinkham.[18] Samuel's will dated 22 August 1671, reportedly mentions his pregnant wife, son Robert, uncle John and father-in-law [step-father], Jacob Green;[19][20] it was witnessed by John DeWitt, William Bartholomew and Mary Green.[21]

Jacob2 and Elizabeth (_____) (Long) Green were the parents of two children,

  1. Jacob Green Jr., born in Charlestown, 11 October, 1654,[22]
  2. John Green, born before 22 April 1658 (named in paternal grandfather's will),[23]

Research Notes

Robert Long 1651 Inventory
G2G - Seek assistance reading Robert Long Jr. 1651 inventory.
Samuel Long 1671 Will
G2G - Should the wife of Robert^2 Long (PGM) and Jacob Green (PGM) be Elizabeth (____) (Long) Green.

Maiden name (LNAB) - Not Hawkins. Early authors mis-attributed a Long death at Barbados to Robert^2 Long, thus his wife was called Elizabeth Hawkins. That woman is more properly Elizabeth (Hawkins) (Long) (Winthrop) Richards -- she has no affiliation with either Robert^2 Long or Jacob^2 Green.

Maiden name (LNAB) - Hopkins not shown. New England Marriages prior to 1700 refers to our woman as (a) "Elizabeth (Hopkins)/[Hawkins]?" in the entry for her marriage to Robert^2 Long (by subscription, AmericanAncestors). She is "Elizabeth (Hopkins) [Long]" in the entry for her marriage to Jacob Green (by subscription, AmericanAncestors). Robert^2 Long did have a niece, Ruth Long, who married Joseph Hopkins, but sources for other Hopkins family associations have not been shown. This includes that none of the works consulted in either New England Marriages entry calls her Hopkins.

Identity as widow of Robert Long and wife of Jacob Green. That (a) Robert^2 Long's wife, who Anderson (2005) called "_____ _____"[24] was also (b) the first wife of Jacob^2 Green, who Anderson (1995) called "Elizabeth _____,"[25] comes from a particular interpretation of the 1671 will of her son, Samuel Long. The will referred his "father-in-law" Jacob Green; the witnesses included Mary Greene and William Bartholomew, presumably Jacob's second wife and her father.

If Samuel's relationship to Jacob is interpreted "step-father," then Jacob's relationship to Samuel's mother would be explained. The text of Samuel's will is mostly illegible], but see Wyman's abstract (InternetArchive).

The "step-father" relationship is accepted on WikiTree, but may well be challenged if additional historical records are identified.

New England Marriages. Long-(Hopkins)/[Hawkins]? 1647 marriage, New England Marriages Prior to 1700, 3 vols. (Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015), 2:961; database and digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, he is Robert Long (1619-____), she is Elizabeth [Hopkins]/[Hawkins]?, m/2 Jacob Green, by 1647; location reference is Charlestown; works consulted (below); see Sources-Torrey. Hopkins not seen.

  • Charlestown 626 -Thomas Bellows Wyman, The Genealogies and Estates of Charlestown ... 1629-1818, 2 vols. (Boston : D. Clapp, 1879), 2:625-628 (Long) at 625 (1-Robert^1 Long) and 626 (Robert^2, Samuel^2); digital images, InternetArchive. Error in Print--reports Robert^2 Long died at Barbados, quoting John Winthrop, "Mr. Long who m. Capt. Hawkins daughter is dead"; gives his wife as Elizabeth Hawkins [12] married (2) Jacob Green.
  • Long 6 - Mary (Wood) Bates, Long Family of Dorchester, Mass., and Conn. (Evanston, Ill., 1931) [Separately described as " (MSS at NEGH Soc. Library)," see Mss A 9244, 55 leaves; includes index, title as "History and genealogy of the first four generations of the Long family of Dorchester, Mass., and Connecticut." **Seems in Error.** Perhaps should be Long (1926), otherwise Hallock P. Long, A Long Genealogy (Washington, D.C., 1926), 6; digital images, FamilySearch Books.
  • Warner-Harrington 416 - Frederick Chester Warner, The Ancestry of Samuel, Freda and John Warner, typescript, 5 vols. (Boston, 1949, 1955), 4:416-417 (Long); digital images, InternetArchive.
  • Farr Anc. 191 - Edith Bartlett Sumner, Descendants of Thomas Farr of Harpswell, Maine and Ninety Allied Families (Los Angeles: American Offset Printers, 1959), 190-191 (Long); digital images, InternetArchive.

New England Marriages. Green[/e]-(Hopkins) Long 1654 marriage, New England Marriages Prior to 1700, 3 vols. (Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015), 1:653; database and digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, he is Jacob Green, she is Elizabeth (Hopkins) [Long], w. Robert, marriage is by 1654. Charlestown; works consulted (below); see Sources-Torrey. Hopkins not seen.

  • Charlestown 435 - Thomas Bellows Wyman, The Genealogies and Estates of Charlestown ... 1629-1818, 2 vols. (Boston : D. Clapp, 1879), 1:435-436 (Jacob [3] Green/Greene); digital images, InternetArchive.
  • Bartholomew 42 - George Wells Bartholomew, Record of the Bartholomew Family, Historical, Genealogical and Biographical (Austin, Texas: priv. print., 1885), 42; digital images, Hathi Trust.
  • Tingley-Meyers 205 - Raymon Meyers Tingley, Some Ancestral Lines, Being a Record of Some of the Ancestors of Guilford Solon Tingley and His Wife, Martha Pamelia Meyers, Collected by Their Son, Raymon Meyers Tingley (Tuttle, Rutland, Vt, 1935), 305-207 (Long) at 205; digital images, Hathi Trust.
  • Farr Anc. 191 - Edith Bartlett Sumner, Descendants of Thomas Farr of Harpswell, Maine and Ninety Allied Families (Los Angeles: American Offset Printers, 1959), 190-191 (Long); digital images, InternetArchive.

Sources

  1. ↑ For the abstract of John Green Will dated 21 (2) 1658, Thomas Bellows Wyman, The Genealogies and Estates of Charlestown ... 1629-1818, 2 vols. (Boston : D. Clapp, 1879), 1:435 (1-John^1 Green/Greene); digital images, InternetArchive.
  2. ↑ John Green 1658 probate, case 9765, Middlesex County, Massachusetts Probate Records; digital images, FamilySearch, FHL film 397078, digital collection (DGS) 7553438, image 518 of 1216, see Will of John Green.
  3. ↑ J. Garner Bartlett, "New England Colonists from St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England" in "Notes and Queries," The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 57 (1903):415-416 at 416 (Robert Long); digital images, Hathi Trust.
  4. ↑ Robert Long Jr 1651 probate, case 14289, Middlesex County, Massachusetts Probate Records; digital images, FamilySearch, FHL film 421461, digital collection (DGS) 7553711, images 52-54 of 1196; inventory dated 3 (8) 1651 [3 October 1651] at image 54, see Robert Long 1651 Inventory.
  5. ↑ Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume IV, I-L (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2005), 316-320 (Robert Long) at 319; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  6. ↑ Citing, "Hotten 89-90." Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume IV, I-L (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2005), 316-320 (Robert Long) at 318; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  7. ↑ John Camden Hotten, The original lists of persons of quality ... (London, Empire State Book Co. 1874), 89-90 (defence de Lond.); digital images, Hathi Trust.
  8. ↑ Citing "Unpublished abstracts by Thomas Bellows Wyman, 'Abstract of Middlesex court files from 1649' (2 vols.), n.d.," Middlesex County, MA: Abstracts of Court Files, 1649–1675, 1:75; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, for "1657 Apr __. Test: Jacob Greene Aged thirty six [36] years Pd Trumbles Wife for Sugar."
  9. ↑ Citing "Unpublished abstracts by Thomas Bellows Wyman, 'Abstract of Middlesex court files from 1649' (2 vols.), n.d.," Middlesex County, MA: Abstracts of Court Files, 1649–1675, 1:113; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, for "1660. 12 m 3. Testimony [in Smith case] of Jacob Green Aged 35 yrs or thereabouts."
  10. ↑ George Wells Bartholomew, Record of the Bartholomew family ... (Austin, Tex. : G.W. Bartholomew, 1885), 39-40; digital images, Hathi Trust.
  11. ↑ Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., paginated continuously (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995), 811-813 (John Green) at 812 (Jacob^2 Green in child list); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  12. ↑ John Camden Hotten, The original lists of persons of quality ... (London, Empire State Book Co. 1874), 150 (James); digital images, Hathi Trust.
  13. ↑ "Mrs. Mary Green ..." admitted, Charlestown church, citing ChChR 13," Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume 1, A-B (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 180-186 (William Bartholomew) at 183; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  14. ↑ On 24 March 1667/8, Jacob and Mary Green "made and constituted our father W[illia]m Bartholomew of Boston our true and lawful attorney .... [regarding] the ... interest of May ... in ... the estate left her by her former husband Mathew Whipple," citing, "IR 4:79; Putman's Mag 2:8," Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume 1, A-B (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), 180-186 (William Bartholomew) at 183; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  15. ↑ Samuel Long 1647 birth record, Roger D. Joslyn, Vital Records of Charlestown, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850, 2 vols. in 3 parts (Boston, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1984-1985), 1:10 ("Earliest Charlestown Vital Records in the Massachusetts Bay Colony Record Volume"); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, "Samuel, son of Robt. Long, b. 23 (2) 1647."
  16. ↑ Samuel Long 1671 death record, citing "p. 48," Roger D. Joslyn, Vital Records of Charlestown, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850, 2 vols. in 3 parts (Boston, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1984-1985), 1:81 ["Charlestown Town Vital Records Volume 1 ('Ancient Volume') - Part 1"]; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, "Samuel Long of Charlstown, blacksmith, d. Sept. 15, 1671."
  17. ↑ Samuel Long 1671 death record, [Middlesex County Superior Court, Massachusetts] Births, marriages, and deaths, 1651-1793; digital image, FamilySearch, FHL film 892249, digital collection (DGS) 4198966, image 129 of 653, "Samuel Long of Charlstowne Smithe Decd September 15th ----1671," penned at upper left as p. "235."
  18. ↑ Long-Pinckham 1668/9 marriage, Roger D. Joslyn, Vital Records of Charlestown, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850, 2 vols. in 3 parts (Boston, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1984-1985), 1:70 [Marieges in Charlstowne in "Charlestown Town Vital Records Volume 1 ('Ancient Volume') - Part 1"]; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, "Samuel Long & Elizabeth Pinckham, m. by Mr. Richard Russell, Jan. 20, 1668/9."
  19. ↑ Without further reference, Thomas Bellows Wyman, The Genealogies and Estates of Charlestown ... 1629-1818, 2 vols. (Boston : D. Clapp, 1879), 2:625-628 (Long) at 626 (4-Samuel^3 Long) ; digital images, InternetArchive.
  20. ↑ Samuell Long 1671 probate, case 14301, 3 pp., Middlesex County, Massachusetts Probate Records; digital images, FamilySearch, FHL film 421461, digital collection (DGS) 7553711, images 70-72 of 1196; will at image 71; inventory at image 72.
  21. ↑ Samuel Long 1671 Will.
  22. ↑ Jacob Green 1654 birth record, Roger D. Joslyn, Vital Records of Charlestown, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850, 2 vols. in 3 parts (Boston, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1984-1985), 1:15 ("Earliest Charlestown Vital Records in the Massachusetts Bay Colony Record Volume"); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, "Jacob Green, son of Jacob Green, v. Oct. 11, 1654."
  23. ↑ John Green 1658 probate, case 9765, Middlesex County, Massachusetts Probate Records; digital images, FamilySearch, FHL film 397078, digital collection (DGS) 7553438, image 518 of 1216, see Will of John Green.
  24. ↑ Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume IV, I-L (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2005), 316-320 (Robert Long) at 319 (son, Robert^2 Long); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  25. ↑ Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., paginated continuously (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995), 811-813 (John Greene) at 812 (Jacob^2 Green in child list); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.




Collaboration
  • Login to edit this profile and add images.
  • Private Messages: Send a private message to the Profile Manager. (Best when privacy is an issue.)
  • Public Comments: Login to post. (Best for messages specifically directed to those editing this profile. Limit 20 per day.)


Comments

Leave a message for others who see this profile.
There are no comments yet.
Login to post a comment.