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Thanks. Liz, for your prompt response. Thanks to strict confinement I have had a lot of time on my hands! I have looked at, although not absorbed because there is just too much, Darrel Wolcott's work about Bartrum. His individual's analysis, http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id139.html grows each month.

In no way should we belittle Bartrum's work, done before the age of computers, presumably with massive card indexes. I cannot imagine how this lifetime's work ever came to fruition. Nevertheless, with current technical support we can do in hours what he must have taken weeks to do. What I find extraordinary is his 33 and 1/3 generation gap. I call it the "vinyl LP" decision. On my own Family Tree maker database of over 14,000 individuals, none verified before 1400, my average is 24 and a bit. When I estimate a birthdate from the marriage date I go back 23 years, or 24 years from the firstborn date. The only justification I can surmise is that he made a fundamental but understandable error in taking the average age of the mother over her child-bearing age. If we then mix in the common situation in medieval times the first-born being to a mother of about 17, his figuring becomes worse and worse. Indeed it is not outside the bounds of possibility that there were almost 2 generations in Bartrum's vinyl LP Enough of that, Thanks again for your response. I am now looking at the Gwentian Chronicles with my beady eye. There have been several suggestions that it was written in the 16th century and was, at very least, imaginative. That puts a whole new slant on things. Steve

Hi! Just wanted to share a couple of points about the Bartrum Project, which you may find as a source on many profiles.

The Bartrum Project (digitization of "Welsh Genealogies AD 300- 1500" by Peter C. Bartrum)

First, the server that hosts the project is frequently down for maintenance and/or overwhelmed by traffic. Please do not delete the link if you get the message that the server is unavailable (and I have sometimes gotten that message for an entire weekend or longer!).

Second, Aberystwyth University, which hosts the project, recently moved from http:// to https:// - all of the http:// links will not go where they should, but if you add an s to http, the link is restored & will go to the correct page (provided the server is available).

Cheers, Liz