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Research of Derrick Watson: Private Message dated 16 Jul 2019 received 4:00 AM: Notified that there's been a miscommunication with the 15 Jul 219 comments posted on the WIDOW FILKES page. Two FOWLEs each married a different Mary Unknown. I'll match the comments with the information from the email:

  • Mary #1 (your widow Filkes)
Mary UNKNOWN born c1570
married 1 to Unknown SHURT
1st Comment at 15:04: From the parish register of St Dunstan, Frinsted (14 miles from Frittenden): John Filkes of St John the Baptist in Thanet and Marye Shurt widowe were married the last day of December Anno predicto [1596] by vertue of a licence procured from London.
NOTE: John Filkes must have been the second marriage for Marye Shurt widowe. Fuller-5853 17:59, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
married 2 to John FILKES in 1596, he died in 1601
1st Comment at 15:04: John Filkes, householder, was buried 22 Mar 1600/01 in Cranbrook.
married 3 to Richard FOWLE in 1601, he died in 1631
she died in 1627
4th Comment at 16:06: Mary Fowle, wife of Richard, was buried 1 May 1627 at Headcorn, Kent - no age at death given but almost certainly this widow Filkes.
  • Mary #2 (a red herring introduced by me)
Mary UNKNOWN born c1600
married 1 to John FOWLE; married 2 to Walter MARSH in 1632
2nd Comment at 15:37: From the Canterbury Marriage Licences: Walter Mersh of Lynton, blacksmith, widower, married Mary Fowle, widow of John Fowle late of the same place, deceased, at St Mildred's, Canterbury on July 31 1632. Robert Shartsted of Lynton, yeoman, bondman.
This is not the widow Filkes, but given the proximity of Headcorn to Linton, I suspect that John Fowle is either cousin or brother to Richard Fowle.
she died 1667, he died 1669
3rd Comment at 15:45: Mary Marsh, wife of Walter Marsh senior, was buried 11 Aug 1667 in Linton, Kent (PR transcript at FMP) - no age at death given; Walter Marsh was buried 31 Dec 1669 at Linton (ibid); He had married first to Elizabeth Foule 8 Jun 1611 at Linton. So it's possible he married his wife's brother's widow.
  • I don't know the relationship between Richard Fowle and John Fowle. Given the approximate timings they could have been son and father.
  • What I'm really saying is that I think that Mary Shurt is the widow Filkes, which idea you have rejected in your notes.
That was my misunderstanding to be corrected.

The second(3rd?) husband of the Widow Filkes was Richard Fowle. Her LNAB should be Unknown. These are the profiles I have found on WikiTree: Fuller-5853 14:45, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

  1. Mary Filkes PM is Ricky Farmer (Inactive since 3 Aug 2012) Per Derrick Watson:
    1. Her year of birth should be revised
    2. Merged with Filkes-9. (LNAB is Unknown).
    3. Disconnect from parents who should be merged away. NOTE: Check with Jerry's Notes first. Fuller-5853 00:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  2. Mary Filkes PM is Pat Credit LNAB is Unknown: Merged into Filkes-4(as stated above): Imported GEDCOM includes Jerry's notes containing parts of his years of family history research. NOTE: More than 500 profiles still need to be checked. Fuller-5853 00:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  3. Mary (Sandler) Fowle PMs are Pat Credit and David Barnhardt Per Derrick Watson she is not the Widow Filkes and her LNAB should be changed, possibly to "Whitefield but this currently lacks evidence." Note: Since there is doubt and no solid evidence her LNAB should be changed to Unknown. Fuller-5853 20:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  4. Marye Shurte No profile is needed.
    1. Add her information to Mary (Sandler) Fowle.
  5. Mary Whitefield. PM is William Hauser Sr. (has 9 others on trusted list) Not enough information to determine if Whitefield was the widow Filkes.
  6. Mary Whitfield PM is Jeff Pringle.
    1. This profile has no information and should be merged into Mary Whitefield.
  • Each of these will have their own header below for research notes.
Information from Unknown Filkes: Based upon Mary's LNAB as Whitfield as recorded by Mason previous to changing her LNAB to Shurte/Shurt. The sources quoted by Derrick Watson have proven that wrong. Here's the previous version of biography of Unknown Filkes :

Unknown Filkes was born about 1568 in Frittenden, Kent, England. He married Mary Whitfield about 1598. Mary was born about 1579 in Frittenden. She passed away August 1, 1627 in Headcorn, Maidston Borough, Kent, England. Mary was buried in St Peter And St Paul Churchyard, in Headcorn.[1]

Mary was known as the widow Filkes when she was married to her second husband, Richard Fowle.[2]

Mr. Filkes passed away before September 3, 1601, the date Vallentine lists of his wife's second marriage.[2]

See also:
  • Mason, Terry; Terry Mason's Family History Site covering the ancestors of his parents, Ruth Allen Thomas & John Mets Mason.
  • Vallentine, John F. (John Franklin), 1931- Downloadable pdf available: Ancestral families of Robert Lee Pack: including Archer, Borden, Callison, Carper, Crostic, Farley, Hughes, Leach, Lively, Maddy, Morris, Pack, Peck, Shumate, Sovain, and Winter. Mentions the 3 Sep 1601 marriage at Headcorn of Richard Fowle to Mrs. Mary Filkes (1575-1 Aug 1627).

NOTE: Mason has updated the information at his site: LNAB for the widow Filkes has been changed to Shurt. Marye Shurt b 1 Aug 1597; married John Filkes 31 Dec 1596. They may have had a daughter , Mary in 1597. John died Mar 1600; Widow Filkes married Richard Fowle 3 Sep 1601. They had 5 children.[3]

Contents

Mary Filkes-4

Sources from profile

No sources listed. Fuller-5853 15:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Mary Filkes-9

Sources from profile

No sources located from Jerry's Notes yet: Fuller-5853 15:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Fulkes-9 was created by Jerry Cox through the import of jcoxff.ged on Oct 15, 2013. NOTE: Imported GEDCOM includes Jerry's notes containing parts of his years of family history research.


Mary (Sandler-103) Fowle

Merged Fikes-155 into Filkes-1

Link to changes page for Mary (Fikes) Fowle BEFORE MERGE into Mary (Filkes) Fowle 28 Apr 2013.

Merged Filkes-6 into Filkes-1

[Filkes-6 https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Filkes-6 Link to changes page] for Mary Filkes BEFORE MERGE into Mary (Filkes) Fowle 28 Apr 2013.

Filkes-6 was created through the import of Glover.ged on 03 April 2011.
Mary Filkes born 1 Aug 1579 Frittenden, Kent, England. Text has birth as 1569,[4]

Merged Filkes-5 into Filkes-1

Link to changes page for Mary Filkes BEFORE MERGE into Mary (Filkes) Fowle 28 Apr 2013.

Filkes-5 was created on 19 March 2011 through the import of KRH Family Tree_2010-12-30.ged.

Merged Filkes-1 into Unknown-231479

Link to changes page for Mary (Filkes) Fowle BEFORE MERGE into Mary (Unknown) Fowle 10 Mar 2014.

Merged Filkes-8 into Unknown-231479

Link to changes page for Mary (Filkes) Fowle BEFORE MERGE into Mary (Unknown) Fowle 10 Mar 2014.

Merged Unknown-231479 into Sandler-103

Link to changes page for Unknown-231479 BEFORE MERGE into Sandler-103.

Sources from profile

Waters records that Richard Fowle married secondly Mary Filkes of Frittenden, a wIdow, at St Margaret's Cantebury, county Kent. License was dated September 3, 1601. Richard and Mary had three daughters: Joane Borden (After 1601 - 15 Jul 1688 in Portsmouth, R.I.), Elizabeth (Abt 1608 - ) married Robert Joseph [5]

See also:

  • Waters, Henry F. (Henry Fitz-Gilbert), 1833-1913; The New England historical and genealogical register New England Historic Genealogical Society 1921.
  • Title: English Origins of New England Families, Vol 2 First Series 1985 - Note: this source has not yet been located. Fuller-5853 15:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Marye Shurte

DO NOT ADD PROFILE

NOTE: Mason has updated the information at his site: LNAB for the widow Filkes has been changed to Shurt. Marye Shurt b 1 Aug 1597; married John Filkes 31 Dec 1596. They may have had a daughter , Mary in 1597. John died Mar 1600; Widow Filkes married Richard Fowle 3 Sep 1601. They had 5 children.[3]

Sources from profile

'Mason citing

England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991, JZY9-C38 with Image.
FAG# 69321831 with Image.

Comments Show Marye Shurt married John Filkes

Marye Shurt can be ruled out as being the WIDOW FILKES:

Marriage to John Filkes 31 Dec 1596. Written on 15 Jul 2019 at 15:04 GMT by Derrick Watson.
Marriage to Walter Mersh/Marsh 30 Jul 1632. Written on On 15 Jul 2019 at 15:37 GMT by Derrick Watson.
Mayre (Unknown) Shurt Filkes Marsh was buried 11 Aug 1667 in Linton, Kent. Written on 15 Jul 2019 at 15:45 GMT by Derrick Watson.

NOTE: The Widow Filkes, wife to Richard Fowle, was buried 1 May 1627 at Headcorn, Kent, England. Written on 15 Jul 2019 at 16:06 GMT by Derrick Watson.

Mary Whitefield-8

Sources from profile

Have not been able to locate these sources from profile: Fuller-5853 15:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

FamilySearch

Elmer Leonard Hauser Genealogy

William Howard Hauser Genealogy

Mary Whitfield-700

Sources from profile

No sources listed. Fuller-5853 15:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)


Sources

  1. ↑ Mason, Filkes.
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Mason, Mary Whitfield changed to Marye Shurt.
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 Mason, Mary Shurt (changed from Mary Whitfield). citing
    England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991, JZY9-C38 with Image.
    FAG# 69321831 with Image.
  4. ↑ Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004: Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #407733 Indexed as Mary Filkes [Mary Felker], Female, married Richard Fowle born 1569; 1 page.
  5. ↑ Waters Vol.75, 232. Source cites Cowper's Cantebury Marriage Licenses, First Series, column 157 regarding the information of Mary Filkes being a widow.

See also:

  • Mason, Terry; Terry Mason's Family History Site covering the ancestors of his parents, Ruth Allen Thomas & John Mets Mason.
  • Vallentine, John F. (John Franklin), 1931- Downloadable pdf available: Ancestral families of Robert Lee Pack: including Archer, Borden, Callison, Carper, Crostic, Farley, Hughes, Leach, Lively, Maddy, Morris, Pack, Peck, Shumate, Sovain, and Winter. Mentions the 3 Sep 1601 marriage at Headcorn of Richard Fowle to Mrs. Mary Filkes (1575-1 Aug 1627).
  • Waters, Henry F. (Henry Fitz-Gilbert), 1833-1913; The New England historical and genealogical register New England Historic Genealogical Society 1921.
  • Title: English Origins of New England Families, Vol 2 First Series 1985




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Watson-1411 Derrick Watson
John Filkes, householder, was buried 22 Mar 1600/01 in Cranbrook.
posted by Derrick Watson
Watson-1411 Derrick Watson
Mary Fowle, wife of Richard, was buried 1 May 1627 at Headcorn, Kent - no age at death given but almost certainly this widow Filkes.
posted by Derrick Watson
Watson-1411 Derrick Watson
Mary Marsh, wife of Walter Marsh senior, was buried 11 Aug 1667 in Linton, Kent (PR transcript at FMP) - no age at death given.

Walter Marsh was buried 31 Dec 1669 at Linton (ibid)

He had married first to Elizabeth Foule 8 Jun 1611 at Linton. So it's possible he married his wife's brother's widow.

posted by Derrick Watson
Watson-1411 Derrick Watson
From the Canterbury Marriage Licences:

Walter Mersh of Lynton, blacksmith, widower, married Mary Fowle, widow of John Fowle late of the same place, deceased, at St Mildred's, Canterbury on July 31 1632. Robert Shartsted of Lynton, yeoman, bondman.

This is not the widow Filkes, but given the proximity of Headcorn to Linton, I suspect that John Fowle is either cousin or brother to Richard Fowle.

posted by Derrick Watson
Watson-1411 Derrick Watson
From the parish register of St Dunstan, Frinsted (14 miles from Frittenden):

John Filkes of St John the Baptist in Thanet and Marye Shurt widowe were married the last day of December Anno predicto [1596] by vertue of a licence procured from London.

posted by Derrick Watson