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Wish List
Here is a list of enhancements to WikiTree Sourcer that I have planned or that have been requested by users.
Search
Citation
- Option to put the person's name in bold in the data string or table in a citation.
- Allow adding sources to FamilySearch, Geni and Ancestry person profiles
Narrative
- Add additional options for the sentence format of the narratives.
Household Tables
- Add options to control the sentence format of the table.
New sites to support
- Many countries
- My Heritage and My Heritage Library Edition
- Ancestry HeritageQuest
- Newspaper Archive
- Fold3
- historicgraves.com Mostly Ireland but other countries also
- The Genealogist
- Australia
- BDM and other free government records. Includes states such as:
- Libraries Tasmania Names Index
- Public Record Office Victoria Assisted Passenger Lists
- Australian Cemeteries Index
- Canada
- LAC is now supported
- France
- Germany
- Italy
- Netherlands
- New Zealand
- South Africa
- Sweden
- UK
- England OPCs (Done Cornwall). NOTE: Each OPC is a completely separate site with different formatting and search.
- UK Forces War Records
- UK National Archives Discovery
- The Proceedings of the Old Bailey
- The National Library of Wales Newspaper archive
- FMP British and Irish Newspapers
- Lives of the First World War
- History of Parliament Online
- Digital Panopticon (Centralized /connective database for convict records)
- Essex Archives Online (Essex Records Office) ($$)
- US
- American Ancestors (subscription required)
- Daughters of the American Revolution (subscription required)
- Ellis Island Passenger Search database (subscription required)
- General book/paper sources
- General searches that are not really sources
- Google search (can't create a citation but could construct a search with names and dates)
- Wikipedia (for searching for notables and citing a wikipedia page as a source)
- IMDB (for searching for notables in the movie world)
Collaboration
- Login to edit this profile and add images.
- Private Messages: Send a private message to the Profile Manager. (Best when privacy is an issue.)
- Public Comments: Login to post. (Best for messages specifically directed to those editing this profile. Limit 20 per day.)
Would it be possible to capture their names as a numbered list in the same format as the bio builder?
Thanks in advance. Loralee
How would you want it to handle multiple spouses with children with several spouses?
For example, the book for this page, https://archive.org/details/New_York_State_Marriage_Index_1906/page/n424/mode/1up, has an Identifier-ark of ark:/13960/t7hr15z2x. That can be resolved as https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t7hr15z2x. My suggestion is to use this hyperlink to resolve the book title. For
<ref> Reclaim The Records, New York State Marriage Index - 1906, Reclaim The Records; 1906; page: (425 of 1159), Internet Archive </ref>
wrap the title as New York State Marriage Index - 1906 (i.e. <left bracket>https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t7hr15z2x New York State Marriage Index - 1906<right bracket>)
Just a thought. Thanks again for all the fantastic work.
edited by Kerry Larson
It would be fantastic if you could add support for Australian Cemeteries Index. See: https://austcemindex.com/ I often find photos on this site (headstones etc) which are not on FindAGrave. Also, Australian BDM Registration numbers are usually listed plus it shows people buried nearby. Thank you!
P.S. Again, thank you for such a fantastic genealogy tool
Many thanks for this fantastic app. It has made such a huge difference in working with Wikitree profiles. The link(s) that I would find really helpful in Sourcer are Andy Keogh's Rathlin Island site: [1] and / or "The McQuilkin/Wilkinson Genealogical Directory" [2]. There are two other similar sites: The McCurdy Directory and The Keogh Directory.
Nga mihi nui kia koe Clare
It would be fantastic if you could add support for the newspapers section of FindMyPast. I realise this may not be able to provide specific citations based on specific content or people I'm referencing, but even to be able to produce a citation for the publication, date, page title, page number, URL, etc would be incredibly helpful. Thank you!
P.S. Again, as always, thank you for one of the most invaluable genealogy tools I've come across! I'd be lost without WikiTree Sourcer!
edited by K. (Angel-Smith) Smith
My latest request: Support for Griffiths Evaluation Details records at askaboutireland.ie. e.g. Assemble a source for a records page such as this one: https://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_details_show.php?ID=221989&mysession=2883821259736
The problem may be that, unless one intentionally opens it as a new tab or window, this page is normally only displayed as a pop-up window from this page: https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&PlaceID=221987&county=Cavan&barony=Clanmahon&parish=Drumlumman&townland=%3Cb%3EDrumhawnagh%3C/b%3E
The process can hardly be completely automated, but it might possible to at least automate the turning back the pages to the first page of the relevant volume!
edited by Joe Murray
I have a few (mostly Australian, but some English/Irish) source coverage requests, if they're possible soon or sometime in the future:
- Libraries Tasmania Names Index (https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search)
- Public Record Office Victoria Assisted Passenger Lists (https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/passenger-records-and-immigration/assisted-passenger-lists)
- Births Deaths and Marriages Victoria (https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history)
- NSW Government (BDM/Family History Search): https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search?0
- Digital Panopticon (Centralised /connective database for convict records) (https://www.digitalpanopticon.org/)
- The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Online (https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/)
- National Library of Ireland (NLI) Catholic Parish Registers (https://registers.nli.ie/)
- Essex Archives Online (Essex Records Office) ($$)(https://www.essexarchives online.co.uk)
Thanks 😊
BTW the National Library of Ireland is already supported by Sourcer.
For some reason NLI didn't seem to work when I tried it, but I'll check again.
Have as an option, or just plain modify, the menu after clicking [1] - when the "Build Citations" triplet is added to the menu, to have it before the list of Sources
Thanks
BTW you can already put all the Search items on a submenu so that there is only one Search menu item before the Build Citation items.
edited by Rob Pavey
Ryan Ross just posted a comment in G2G about dwindling information in FS provided citations an example being the 1920 U.S. census.
Examples that demonstrate the problem. The first is from several years ago, then today, and what the Sourcer generated today:
1. "United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8C7-WMJ : accessed 17 July 2017), Josie Turner in household of Thomas N Turner, White, Macon, Missouri, United States; citing ED 95, sheet 8B, line 86, family 93, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 934; FHL microfilm 1,820,934.
2. "United States Census, 1920", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8C7-WM8 : Mon Jul 24 01:50:41 UTC 2023), Entry for Thomas N Turner and Susan R Turner, 1920.
3. "United States Census, 1920", citing Affiliate Publication Number: T625; Line: 86, FamilySearch Record: M8C7-WMJ FamilySearch Image: 33SQ-GRFS-LTH, Josie Turner (20), single grandchild, in household of Thomas N Turner (71) in White Township, Macon, Missouri, United States. Born in Missouri.
The elimination of the microfilm number is the most glaring. The microfilm #, DGS #, and Image # are available on the record page under Document Information. Would you consider enhancing the Sourcer citations with some of the information that is now being left out? If it's not practical, I completely understand.
Thanks, Kerry.
edited by Kerry Larson
Notes that there is a choice in the options for where to get the reference data, see the "Build source reference: " option. If it is set to use parts of the FS citation, and those parts are empty, then it falls back to building from the record data.
I would like to see a way to cull the "sources" grabbed from FamilySearch to a short list of the "best," e.g., census, birth cert., marriage cert., death, like that. When I see a sources list of 35 or 50, I think probably a large part is surplusage. Maybe there is a way to do this already, and I haven't learned how.
There are a couple of options to cut down the number of sources. All the options are explained here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:WikiTree_Sourcer%2C_FamilySearch_Build_All_Citations
There are two relevant options:
Exclude sources that do not have a valid link to a FamilySearch record: If the FS source does not have a link to an FS record page then the source is excluded.
For Sourcer style citations, exclude sources where the source person is not a primary person for the event: Sometimes FS profiles have a lot of sources for the baptism and marriage of children. Setting this option excludes those sources. It only works when the source is a valid FS record page that can be fetched and only when the "Type of citations to generate" option is set to generate Sourcer style citations.
Also, could the newspaper name be italicized to conform to normal citation formatting?
Thanks very much.
Request: Please add Czech Sources
I absolutely love this extension. No idea how I got by without it! Thanks for all your hard work putting it together and enhancing it over time.
I came across a record type for which I hope you might be able to integrate citation support? It's for Hospital Admission Registers and Discharges (example here)
Thanks so much!
Request: Add Irish sources - irishgenealogy.ie, registers.nli.ie, and census.nationalarchives.ie (Integrate Greg Clarke's Irish Sites Citation Creator)
edited by Joe Murray
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:WikiTree_Sourcer_IrishGenealogy.ie_Examples
Even more complete than I would normally do manually, so I would use this feature as-is if it were added to Sourcer today :)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:WikiTree_Sourcer_IrishGenealogy.ie_Examples
I hope to release this sometime this week.
When I use the Build Narrative with Citation on Scotlandspeople Marriages, I get this:
Robert's marriage to Louise Jennifer Elder was registered in 1997 in the St Andrews (Fife) district.<ref> Marriage Registration: "Statutory Register of Marriages"
National Records of Scotland, Ref: 413/96
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ (accessed 19 April 2023)
Surname: BREMNER; Forename: ROBERT; Spouse Surname: ELDER; Spouse Forename: LOUISE JENNIFER; Year: 1997; RD Name: St Andrews (Fife). </ref>
... which I then change to: Robert Bremner and Louise Jennifer Elder's marriage was registered in 1997 in the St Andrews (Fife) district.
I prefer this wording, and I can also paste the same citation into both partners' pages.
Robert Bremner married Louise Jennifer Elder in 1997. Their marriage was registered in 1997 in the St Andrews (Fife) district.
Is that close enough?
edited by Rob Pavey
Canada has a new better census search and resource page I would love to see added - https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Search?DataSource=Genealogy%7CCensus
And Nova Scotia Vital Statistic records have a very searchable database and standardized info for notes https://archives.novascotia.ca/vital-statistics
But what would be really nice if there was a way to customize so I could add a specific source and the info I want - I'm assuming it is doing some type of "screen" scrape and just organizing the data it gets into specific parts of the citation
Here is the link to the github repo for Sourcer: https://github.com/RobPavey/wikitree-sourcer
Let me know if you are interested in contributing. I'm happy to give you a 1-1 tutorial over Zoom or something like that.
edited by Rob Pavey
I would like sourcerer to work with 1830 and prior census records. It would be great if it could build tables like the one I did for this profile
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bennett-37505
Also... is there a reason you are not here? https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:WikiTree_Tools_and_Apps
edited by Lance Martin
For example here is the info from a Find A Grave:
Name John William Kessler Gender Male Birth Date 15 Apr 1886 Death Date 5 May 1961 Cemetery Twin Falls Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place Twin Falls, Twin Falls County, Idaho, United States of America Has Bio? N Father George H Kessler Mother Sarah Eveline Kessler Spouse Velma Jane Kessler Children Marvin Kessler; Kathryn Mildred Lewis; Jane Nadine Cox; Clifford Eugene Kessler; James R Kessler
Here is the Sourcer output:
Find a Grave™. Find a Grave. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi; URL: Find A Grave: Memorial #131842646 Ancestry Record 60525 #108362481 (accessed 3 February 2023) John William Kessler burial (died on 5 May 1961) in Twin Falls, Twin Falls County, Idaho, United States of America.
and here is the way I cut and paste to use the cemetery name:
Find a Grave™. Find a Grave. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi; URL: Find A Grave: Memorial #131842646 Ancestry Record 60525 #108362481 (accessed 3 February 2023) John William Kessler burial (died on 5 May 1961) in Twin Falls Cemetery, Twin Falls, Twin Falls County, Idaho, United States of America.
It looks like you are talking about Ancestry records for Find-A-Grave. If you go to the corresponding Find-a-grave record (which is recommended by WikiTree I think) and create a citation there then it does get the cemetery name.
I will take a look and making it get the cemetery name on the Ancestry record.
Thanks for the work you do. Nicola
Wow, what a great thing to have on Wikitree!!!!
Can you add a citation builder for a record that is not online? Such as a Marriage Record or Divorce Record that is Recorded in the Court House, to include an one for the Index Book and/or 2) and actual copy of the record from the courthouse. This record I retrieve by the old fashion legwork.
Mary
Adding a citation builder for records that are not online is not something that I have thought about. I'm not sure how that would work. How do you imagine the user interface looking? Rob
What do you mean by distinguish? Are you thinking of when adding a new WikiTree profile from Find A Grave?
Another source for India is FIBIS (fibis.org). Free database is at https://fibis.ourarchives.online/bin/index.php
Thanks, Rob
Hope this helps, and keep up the good work! Rob (another one)
It's FMP
Adding the spouse's parents to the narrative is a bit more complicated - I may need a new option, so I have put that on my list.
all related to FindMyPast.com.au
500 Internal Server Error https://search.findmypast.com.au Quite a few errors like this from FindMyPast or Error 962: Domain name in link not resolved or Error 966: Link error various
Some of it could be me editing the source, either way: Could there be an Option to just list the base URL instead of the full transcript URL, I feel this would negate the issue?
Love the app.
Also for adding sites please consider "Lives of the First World War". Here is an example page for a soldier who was a relative of mine who was killed in WW1. https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk/lifestory/1132386
Your app is great!! Thanks.
FamilySearch does not have images available for most of the Canadian censuses and they do not offer the latest 1921 census, so Library and Archives is the preferred site for Canadian Census records.
It would be wonderful to have it as part of Sourcer app thank you!
This extension is a real lifeline, I use it all the time.
I'd like to add a site to the Wish List: https://newspaperarchive.com/. What you have is great, though!! :)
Hayman-886