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Wish List

Here is a list of enhancements to WikiTree Sourcer that I have planned or that have been requested by users.



  • Option to put the person's name in bold in the data string or table in a citation.
  • Allow adding sources to FamilySearch, Geni and Ancestry person profiles


  • Add additional options for the sentence format of the narratives.

Household Tables

  • Add options to control the sentence format of the table.

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Thanks for much for this awesome tool. I have a profile builder request. When creating a profile I often add a list of names of children that I've already sourced on Familysearch or Ancestry to the parents profile page. I do this by highlighting the list of children & pasting it into wikitree. Then I add a hashtag to each child, wrap their DOB & DOD in brackets, remove 2-4 line breaks and the words male/female. I do this several times a day (for different people, obviously) but it's time-consuming & I'm sure it could be automated.

Would it be possible to capture their names as a numbered list in the same format as the bio builder?

Thanks in advance. Loralee

posted by Loralee Hutton
I think it would be possible but a bit of work. I don't currently extract the child names from the FS or Ancestry profile but I could.

How would you want it to handle multiple spouses with children with several spouses?

posted by Rob Pavey
Thanks so much for adding those e-book sites recently! That will be a big timesaver for me. I'd like to suggest one small addition for archive.org. The standard URLs for archive.org pages are not promoted as persistent. However, in the meta-data for most books is an Identifier-ark field. Archival Resource Keys (ARKs) are supposed to be persistent: https://arks.org/. An ARK can be resolved to a URL by the site https://n2t.net/.

For example, the book for this page, https://archive.org/details/New_York_State_Marriage_Index_1906/page/n424/mode/1up, has an Identifier-ark of ark:/13960/t7hr15z2x. That can be resolved as https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t7hr15z2x. My suggestion is to use this hyperlink to resolve the book title. For

<ref> Reclaim The Records, New York State Marriage Index - 1906, Reclaim The Records; 1906; page: (425 of 1159), Internet Archive </ref>

wrap the title as New York State Marriage Index - 1906 (i.e. <left bracket>https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t7hr15z2x New York State Marriage Index - 1906<right bracket>)

Just a thought. Thanks again for all the fantastic work.

posted by Kerry Larson
edited by Kerry Larson
Thanks. I will add that feature in the next release.
posted by Rob Pavey
Hi Rob

It would be fantastic if you could add support for Australian Cemeteries Index. See: https://austcemindex.com/ I often find photos on this site (headstones etc) which are not on FindAGrave. Also, Australian BDM Registration numbers are usually listed plus it shows people buried nearby. Thank you!

P.S. Again, thank you for such a fantastic genealogy tool

posted by Susan Stopford
Kia ora Rob,

Many thanks for this fantastic app. It has made such a huge difference in working with Wikitree profiles. The link(s) that I would find really helpful in Sourcer are Andy Keogh's Rathlin Island site: [1] and / or "The McQuilkin/Wilkinson Genealogical Directory" [2]. There are two other similar sites: The McCurdy Directory and The Keogh Directory.

Nga mihi nui kia koe Clare

posted by Clare Pierson
Hi Rob

It would be fantastic if you could add support for the newspapers section of FindMyPast. I realise this may not be able to provide specific citations based on specific content or people I'm referencing, but even to be able to produce a citation for the publication, date, page title, page number, URL, etc would be incredibly helpful. Thank you!

P.S. Again, as always, thank you for one of the most invaluable genealogy tools I've come across! I'd be lost without WikiTree Sourcer!

posted by K. (Angel-Smith) Smith
edited by K. (Angel-Smith) Smith
As I've said before, the number one most useful app ever on WikiTree!

My latest request: Support for Griffiths Evaluation Details records at askaboutireland.ie. e.g. Assemble a source for a records page such as this one: https://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_details_show.php?ID=221989&mysession=2883821259736

The problem may be that, unless one intentionally opens it as a new tab or window, this page is normally only displayed as a pop-up window from this page: https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&PlaceID=221987&county=Cavan&barony=Clanmahon&parish=Drumlumman&townland=%3Cb%3EDrumhawnagh%3C/b%3E

posted by Joe Murray
Dating individual entries in Griffith's Valuation is quite convoluted, as explained by John Grenham back in 2017: https://www.johngrenham.com/blog/2017/02/06/how-to-date-griffiths-valuation-precisely/

The process can hardly be completely automated, but it might possible to at least automate the turning back the pages to the first page of the relevant volume!

posted by Paddy Waldron
Actually, the details page already includes the publication date, so no need to go through those convoluted steps. The problem may be that the details page opens as a pop up window instead of its own page, and even if you force that pop up to open as a separate window, the link to the details seems to be invalid once the user session expires. But maybe Rob has a way around such obstacles.
posted by Joe Murray
edited by Joe Murray
... and the Details pop-up and and the tab containing the Original Page don't have links to each other; and the Printing Date is just the year, with day and month stripped off! Maybe Rob could do the sort of magic he did with the census.nationalarchives.ie website, whereby the user can highlight the row of interest and Sourcer then extracts the information from that row. The Griffith website is so user-unfriendly that I have resorted to downloading the images for the PLUs of most interest to me onto my hard drive (via ancestry.com) and doing my lookups in my local copy! Hence there are no hyperlinks at all whenever I cite Griffith on WikiTree. The only thing that one can hyperlink to without a sessionid parameter is a search results page like https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&PlaceID=256788&county=Clare&barony=Moyarta&parish=%3Cb%3EKilmacduane%3C/b%3E&townland=Kilmacduane,%20west
posted by Paddy Waldron
Woah, I did not know that about highlighting each line on the Irish census pages! WikiTree Sourcer just keep on amazing me. Thanks, Paddy for pointing that out (and Rob, of course!)
posted by Joe Murray
Hi Rob

I have a few (mostly Australian, but some English/Irish) source coverage requests, if they're possible soon or sometime in the future:

- Libraries Tasmania Names Index (https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search)

- Public Record Office Victoria Assisted Passenger Lists (https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/passenger-records-and-immigration/assisted-passenger-lists)

- Births Deaths and Marriages Victoria (https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history)

- NSW Government (BDM/Family History Search): https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search?0

- Digital Panopticon (Centralised /connective database for convict records) (https://www.digitalpanopticon.org/)

- The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Online (https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/)

- National Library of Ireland (NLI) Catholic Parish Registers (https://registers.nli.ie/)

- Essex Archives Online (Essex Records Office) ($$)(https://www.essexarchives online.co.uk)

Thanks 😊

posted by K. (Angel-Smith) Smith
Thanks, I have added the ones not already listed here to the list.

BTW the National Library of Ireland is already supported by Sourcer.

posted by Rob Pavey
Thanks for your reply Rob!

For some reason NLI didn't seem to work when I tried it, but I'll check again.

posted by K. (Angel-Smith) Smith
I looked at it again and realised I probably needed to update. I disabled and re-enabled (and updated permissions) in Safari, and it worked fine. Thanks 😊
posted by K. (Angel-Smith) Smith
Ahh, this is where to put updates :p

Have as an option, or just plain modify, the menu after clicking [1] - when the "Build Citations" triplet is added to the menu, to have it before the list of Sources


posted by Andrew Bassett-Smith
Could you clarify the purpose. Is this so that you can use keyboard shortcuts rather than the mouse? In Chrome you can set any keyboard shortcut you like to bring up the Sourcer popup but then you have to tab through the menu items.

BTW you can already put all the Search items on a submenu so that there is only one Search menu item before the Build Citation items.

posted by Rob Pavey
edited by Rob Pavey
Hi Rob,

Ryan Ross just posted a comment in G2G about dwindling information in FS provided citations an example being the 1920 U.S. census.

Examples that demonstrate the problem. The first is from several years ago, then today, and what the Sourcer generated today:

1. "United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8C7-WMJ : accessed 17 July 2017), Josie Turner in household of Thomas N Turner, White, Macon, Missouri, United States; citing ED 95, sheet 8B, line 86, family 93, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 934; FHL microfilm 1,820,934.

2. "United States Census, 1920", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8C7-WM8 : Mon Jul 24 01:50:41 UTC 2023), Entry for Thomas N Turner and Susan R Turner, 1920.

3. "United States Census, 1920", citing Affiliate Publication Number: T625; Line: 86, FamilySearch Record: M8C7-WMJ FamilySearch Image: 33SQ-GRFS-LTH, Josie Turner (20), single grandchild, in household of Thomas N Turner (71) in White Township, Macon, Missouri, United States. Born in Missouri.

The elimination of the microfilm number is the most glaring. The microfilm #, DGS #, and Image # are available on the record page under Document Information. Would you consider enhancing the Sourcer citations with some of the information that is now being left out? If it's not practical, I completely understand.

Thanks, Kerry.

posted by Kerry Larson
edited by Kerry Larson
I will add some more of those details to the FS citation reference data.

Notes that there is a choice in the options for where to get the reference data, see the "Build source reference: " option. If it is set to use parts of the FS citation, and those parts are empty, then it falls back to building from the record data.

posted by Rob Pavey
Sourcer is great. Thanks for your work in creating.

I would like to see a way to cull the "sources" grabbed from FamilySearch to a short list of the "best," e.g., census, birth cert., marriage cert., death, like that. When I see a sources list of 35 or 50, I think probably a large part is surplusage. Maybe there is a way to do this already, and I haven't learned how.

posted by John Graham
Thanks John,

There are a couple of options to cut down the number of sources. All the options are explained here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:WikiTree_Sourcer%2C_FamilySearch_Build_All_Citations

There are two relevant options:

Exclude sources that do not have a valid link to a FamilySearch record: If the FS source does not have a link to an FS record page then the source is excluded.

For Sourcer style citations, exclude sources where the source person is not a primary person for the event: Sometimes FS profiles have a lot of sources for the baptism and marriage of children. Setting this option excludes those sources. It only works when the source is a valid FS record page that can be fetched and only when the "Type of citations to generate" option is set to generate Sourcer style citations.

posted by Rob Pavey
I request a couple of small modifications to the Newspapers.com option. I'm currently using the library version of Newspapers.com which has the URL of newscomwc.newspapers.com instead of www.newspapers.com. The extension doesn't currently recognize this URL even though the format is the same. For example, https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-sutton-news-christian-hornbacher-est/127033968/ and https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/article/the-sutton-news-christian-hornbacher-est/127033968/ both work and are identical other than the domain prefix. I currently just manually edit the URL to get the extension to accept it but it would be simpler if the extension accepted *.newspapers.com.

Also, could the newspaper name be italicized to conform to normal citation formatting?

Thanks very much.

posted by Kerry Larson
Hi Rob,

Request: Please add Czech Sources

Hi Rob

I absolutely love this extension. No idea how I got by without it! Thanks for all your hard work putting it together and enhancing it over time.

I came across a record type for which I hope you might be able to integrate citation support? It's for Hospital Admission Registers and Discharges (example here)

Thanks so much!

posted by K. (Angel-Smith) Smith
Best thing to happen to WikiTree since I've been using it!

Request: Add Irish sources - irishgenealogy.ie, registers.nli.ie, and census.nationalarchives.ie (Integrate Greg Clarke's Irish Sites Citation Creator)

posted by Joe Murray
edited by Joe Murray
I am working on irishgenealogy.ie now. Here some example citations with default options. How do those look to you?


posted by Rob Pavey
I looked at all of them, and they're great!

Even more complete than I would normally do manually, so I would use this feature as-is if it were added to Sourcer today :)

posted by Joe Murray
I am still working on this. I have added support for the other two sites that you mentioned. Examples updated here:


I hope to release this sometime this week.

posted by Rob Pavey
The new examples look great, Rob - Looking forward to using it!
posted by Joe Murray
Woot! Thanks Rob! I had not expected the search feature for those sites too - they work great for both sites, as do the sourcing features!
posted by Joe Murray
Thanks for the app. I love it. A tiny suggestion...

When I use the Build Narrative with Citation on Scotlandspeople Marriages, I get this:

Robert's marriage to Louise Jennifer Elder was registered in 1997 in the St Andrews (Fife) district.<ref> Marriage Registration: "Statutory Register of Marriages"

National Records of Scotland, Ref: 413/96

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ (accessed 19 April 2023)

Surname: BREMNER; Forename: ROBERT; Spouse Surname: ELDER; Spouse Forename: LOUISE JENNIFER; Year: 1997; RD Name: St Andrews (Fife). </ref>

... which I then change to: Robert Bremner and Louise Jennifer Elder's marriage was registered in 1997 in the St Andrews (Fife) district.

I prefer this wording, and I can also paste the same citation into both partners' pages.

posted by Bruce Laidlaw
With the existing options you can change the narrative to:

Robert Bremner married Louise Jennifer Elder in 1997. Their marriage was registered in 1997 in the St Andrews (Fife) district.

Is that close enough?

posted by Rob Pavey
edited by Rob Pavey
Love it I would love to see the following added

Canada has a new better census search and resource page I would love to see added - https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Search?DataSource=Genealogy%7CCensus

And Nova Scotia Vital Statistic records have a very searchable database and standardized info for notes https://archives.novascotia.ca/vital-statistics

But what would be really nice if there was a way to customize so I could add a specific source and the info I want - I'm assuming it is doing some type of "screen" scrape and just organizing the data it gets into specific parts of the citation

posted by Brian Nash
I would love to have people contribute support for new sites to Sourcer. I have made it open source for this reason and three people have added support for new sites so far. However, it does require javascript programming ability and figuring out how to develop in a browser extension environment. It is more complicated than scraping - though that is a small part of it. Because Sourcer supports: a) labels, b) narratives and c) search from the record for other records, it needs to interpret the data that it has scraped. It also needs to know how to perform a search on the site. In general it is about a weeks work (30-40 hours) to add support for a new site but it depends on the complexity of the site. A site like Ancestry takes a lot longer since there are so many record types, sharing links, family tree pages etc.

Here is the link to the github repo for Sourcer: https://github.com/RobPavey/wikitree-sourcer

Let me know if you are interested in contributing. I'm happy to give you a 1-1 tutorial over Zoom or something like that.

posted by Rob Pavey
edited by Rob Pavey
Thanks for this .. I love it.

I would like sourcerer to work with 1830 and prior census records. It would be great if it could build tables like the one I did for this profile


Also... is there a reason you are not here? https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:WikiTree_Tools_and_Apps

posted by Lance Martin
edited by Lance Martin
I am a real fan of the Sourcer app and have been using to for new entries and updates to existing profiles. I have one small request. When creating a source for Find A Grave info Sourcer does not add the cemetery name. I currently just cut and paste but this would make things that much easier. As an inveterate cemetery visitor it would be nice to have this at hand.
posted by John Kessler Jr.
Hi John, do you have an example. It includes the cemetery name in the examples I have tested, perhaps because it is part of the burial place - are there records where this is not the case?
posted by Rob Pavey
None of the Find a Grave's I have used has included the Cemetery name in the Sourcer output.

For example here is the info from a Find A Grave:

Name John William Kessler Gender Male Birth Date 15 Apr 1886 Death Date 5 May 1961 Cemetery Twin Falls Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place Twin Falls, Twin Falls County, Idaho, United States of America Has Bio? N Father George H Kessler Mother Sarah Eveline Kessler Spouse Velma Jane Kessler Children Marvin Kessler; Kathryn Mildred Lewis; Jane Nadine Cox; Clifford Eugene Kessler; James R Kessler

Here is the Sourcer output:

  • Burial: "U.S., Find a Grave™ Index, 1600s-Current", database

Find a Grave™. Find a Grave. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi; URL: Find A Grave: Memorial #131842646 Ancestry Record 60525 #108362481 (accessed 3 February 2023) John William Kessler burial (died on 5 May 1961) in Twin Falls, Twin Falls County, Idaho, United States of America.

and here is the way I cut and paste to use the cemetery name:

  • Burial: "U.S., Find a Grave™ Index, 1600s-Current", database

Find a Grave™. Find a Grave. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi; URL: Find A Grave: Memorial #131842646 Ancestry Record 60525 #108362481 (accessed 3 February 2023) John William Kessler burial (died on 5 May 1961) in Twin Falls Cemetery, Twin Falls, Twin Falls County, Idaho, United States of America.

posted by John Kessler Jr.
Thanks for the extra info.

It looks like you are talking about Ancestry records for Find-A-Grave. If you go to the corresponding Find-a-grave record (which is recommended by WikiTree I think) and create a citation there then it does get the cemetery name.

I will take a look and making it get the cemetery name on the Ancestry record.

posted by Rob Pavey
Thanks for the information. I'll get to Find-A-Grave and do it that way. It is so easy to run down the sourcing in the Ancestry profiles and move the individual records with Sourcer that I hadn't thought about alternatives. Great Ap.
posted by John Kessler Jr.
Hi Rob, can I request citation builder one day for the Online Cenotaph database produced by Auckland Museum. This has soldiers records, it's a fantastic NZ resource - https://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph

Thanks for the work you do. Nicola

This is a wonderful extension. It has already done a lot to improve the quality and quantity of my profiles! For the household tables from US census records (Family Search), could you include the option to list the (estimated) birth dates of the household members? This would be more useful to me than the Occupation field, which is usually blank, or "Farmer".
posted by Jamie Cox
It is not blank if you use the Ancestry census. I love the occupation field and fill it in on my own when I can.
posted by Lance Martin
Hi Rob,

Wow, what a great thing to have on Wikitree!!!!

Can you add a citation builder for a record that is not online? Such as a Marriage Record or Divorce Record that is Recorded in the Court House, to include an one for the Index Book and/or 2) and actual copy of the record from the courthouse. This record I retrieve by the old fashion legwork.


posted by Mary (R) Hill
Hi Mary,

Adding a citation builder for records that are not online is not something that I have thought about. I'm not sure how that would work. How do you imagine the user interface looking? Rob

posted by Rob Pavey
I put on comment on G2G then I saw this page. I wonder if you can get sourcer to distinguish an italic name on Find A Grave which signifies the wives maiden name.
posted by Lance Martin
Hi Lance, yes I can do more with that. I'm already getting that part since there is a Sourcer option to keep it in italics in the WikiTree citation.

What do you mean by distinguish? Are you thinking of when adding a new WikiTree profile from Find A Grave?

posted by Rob Pavey
yes that is what i mean. so when adding it can use the italic for lnab and the regular for current
posted by Lance Martin
Ho Rob, again,

Another source for India is FIBIS (fibis.org). Free database is at https://fibis.ourarchives.online/bin/index.php

Thanks, Rob

posted by Rob Wilson
Hi Rob, a few wishes from me:
  • If groom and/or bride fathers names (or similar) are available in a marriage record, please include them in the narrative (typically in British India records)
  • If groom and/or bride ages are available in a marriage record, please include them in the narrative
  • If the search country is India and Search engine is FindMyPast then set "Where" to "Britain Overseas/Unknown" (not World) and Location to India - this eliminates search results which include Indiana etc.

Hope this helps, and keep up the good work! Rob (another one)

posted by Rob Wilson
Thanks, could you give me a link to a record that shows the first two points? I'm not sure if this is an Ancestry or FMP record you are talking about.
posted by Rob Pavey
Thanks. I have fixed most of this in version 1.3.6

Adding the spouse's parents to the narrative is a bit more complicated - I may need a new option, so I have put that on my list.

posted by Rob Pavey
Link problems that I noticed keep recurring in my suggestion list:

all related to FindMyPast.com.au

500 Internal Server Error https://search.findmypast.com.au Quite a few errors like this from FindMyPast or Error 962: Domain name in link not resolved or Error 966: Link error various

Some of it could be me editing the source, either way: Could there be an Option to just list the base URL instead of the full transcript URL, I feel this would negate the issue?

Love the app.

posted by NG Hill
Hi, for Census records, I always use the "build narrative with citation", copy to clipboard then add "build houshold table" and add that before pasting to WikiTree. As someone else has noted having a combined request would be a small improvement.

Also for adding sites please consider "Lives of the First World War". Here is an example page for a soldier who was a relative of mine who was killed in WW1. https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk/lifestory/1132386

Your app is great!! Thanks.

posted by Martin Young
The option to automatically generate the table with the citation is in the latest version (1.3.4). It may be a few days before this is available for Chrome due to the review process.
posted by Rob Pavey
I would like to add Library and Archives Canada to the wishlist. In particular, for the free census records: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx

FamilySearch does not have images available for most of the Canadian censuses and they do not offer the latest 1921 census, so Library and Archives is the preferred site for Canadian Census records.

It would be wonderful to have it as part of Sourcer app thank you!

I would like to add Commonwealth War Graves Commission (https://www.cwgc.org/) to the wish list of sites to support.

This extension is a real lifeline, I use it all the time.

posted by Ruth Jowett

I'd like to add a site to the Wish List: https://newspaperarchive.com/. What you have is great, though!! :)


posted by Elizabeth Hayman