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Herbert Spencer (abt. 1881 - 1961)

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Rev. Herbert Spencer
Born about in Croston, Lancashire, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about 1908 in Chorley, Lancashire, Englandmap
[children unknown]
Died in New Zealandmap
Profile last modified 16 Jan 2020 | Created 11 Feb 2017
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Biography

Herbert Spencer. Given Name: Herbert. Surname: Spencer. Prefix: Rev.[1][2]

H Spencer. Given Name: H. Surname: Spencer. Prefix: Rev. Found multiple versions of name. Using Herbert Spencer.

Born Q2 1881. Croston, Lancashire, England. [3][4][5]


Died 1961 New Zealand. [6]

Note: #NI10254. [7][8]

Marriage Husband Herbert Spencer. Wife Jane Messenger. Marriage Q1 1908. Chorley, Lancashire, England. [9] Child: @I321@.


Notes

Note NI10254In the 1891 census at 185 Orchard Terrace, Lancashire.

William Spencer, Head, M, 57, Loom Overlooker Cotton Mill, born Croston, Lancs.

Jane Spencer, wife, M, 47, born Longton, Lancs.

Ann Spencer, dau, S, 26, Cotton Weaver, born Longton, Lancs.

Clarisa Spencer, dau, S, 26, Cotton Weaver, born Longton, Lancs.

Jane E Spencer, dau, S, 19, Cotton Weaver, born Longton, Lancs.

James Spencer, son, S, 18, Cotton Weaver, born Bolton, Lancs.

William Spencer, son, S, 15, Cotton Weaver, born Leyland, Lancs.

Mary Spencer, dau, S, 11, Cotton Weaver, born Croston, Lancs.

Herbert Spencer, son, 10, Scholar, born Croston, Lancs. 1

In the 1901 census at 185 Orchard Terrace, Lancashire.

William Spencer, Head, M, 64, Loom Overlooker Cotton Mill, born Croston, Lancs.

Jane Spencer, wife, M, 56, Cotton Weaver, born Longton, Lancs.

Mary Spencer, dau, S, 21, Cotton Weaver, born Croston, Lancs.

Herbert Spencer, son, 19, Cotton Weaver, born Croston, Lancs. 1

1907 "she met Herbert when they worked in the mills and he was a supervisor.". 1

In the 1911 census at 41 Raikes Road Preston, Lancashire.

Herbert Spencer, Head, 29, married 3 years, Loom Overlooker, born Croston, Lancashire, England.

Janie Spencer, wife, 24, married 3 years, 0 children, Cotton Weaver, born Tarleton, Lancs.

Joseph Henry Messenger, brother-in-law, 19, single, Cotton Weaver, born Bretherton, Lancashire, England. 1

Passage to New Zealand. 1

In the 1914 New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981.

Spencer, Herbert, Dannnevirke, school teacher -Hawke's Bay > Waipawa. Jane, Dannnevirke, married -Hawke's Bay > Waipawa. 1

In the 1919 New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981.

Spencer, Herbert, 165 Ollivier's Road, minister -Cantebury > Avon. Jane, 165 Ollivier's Road, married -Cantebury > Avon. 1

In the 1928 New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981.

Brown Lily, 22 Hipango Terrace, Wanganui E., married. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei. William, 6 Kings Avenue, produce manager -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei ??????.

Spencer, Herbert, Kirk Street, Otaki, minister of religion -Wellington > Otaki. Janie, Kirk Street, Otaki, married -Wellington > Otaki. 1

In the 1935 New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981.

Brown, Alan Mackechnie, 24 Hipango Tce, Durie Hill, clerk -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei.

Brown Lily, 24 Hipango Terrace, Durie Hill, married. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei. Marion Renee, Hipango Tce, Durie Hill, Wgnui., spinster. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei. William, 24 Hipango Eerrace, Durie Hill, secretary -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei. William Leslie, 24 Hipango Terrace, Durie Hill,, grocer -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei.

Spencer, Herbert, 8 King Edward Street, Eltham, Methodist Minister -Taranaki > Egmont. Janie, 8 King Edward Street, Eltham, married -Taranaki > Egmont. 1

In the 1938 New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981 of Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei.

Brown, Alan Mackechnie, Georgetti Rd., Wanganui, clerk -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei.

Brown Lily, BrickHouse, Georgetti Rd., Wanganui, married -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei. Marion Renee, 24 Hipango Tce, Durie Hill,, spinster. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei. William, BrickHouse, Georgetti Rd., Wanganui, secretary -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei. William Leslie, BrickHouse, Georgetti Rd., Wanganui, grocer -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei.

Spencer, Herbert, Bank St, Te Awamutu, Minister of Religion -Waikato > Waikato. Janie, Bank St, Te Awamutu, married -Waikato > Waikato. Phyllis May, Bank St, Te Awamutu, spinster -Waikato > Waikato. 1

In the 1946 New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981.

Brown, Alan Mackechnie, Hipango Terrrace, clerk -Manawatu-Wanganui.

Brown Lily, 24 Hipango Terrrace, married. -Manawatu-Wanganui. Marion Renee, C/o Mrs Morgan, Raetihi Rd., Ohakune, spinster. -Bay of Plenty > Waimarino. Marjorie Mary, Hinuera, married - Waikato > Waikato.

Brown, Phyllis May, Hipango Terrrace Extension, married -Manawatu-Wanganui. William Leslie, Hinuera, company secretary - Waikato > Waikato?.

Spencer, Herbert, Main Rd., Sanson, minister -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei. Janie, Main Rd., Sanson, married -Manawatu-Wanganui > Rangitikei. 1

In the 1949 New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981.

Brown, Alan Mackechnie, Hipango Terrrace, clerk -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui.

Brown Lily, 24 Hipango Terrrace, married -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. Marion Renee, C/o Mrs Morgan, Raetihi Rd., Ohakune, spinster. -Bay of Plenty > Waimarino. Marjorie Mary, Ohakune. married. -Bay of Plenty > Waimarino.

Brown, Phyllis May, Hipango Terrrace Extension, marrried -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. William Leslie, Miro Street, Ohakune, Accountant -Bay of Plenty > Waimarino.

Spencer, Herbert, 24 Hipango Terrrace, retired -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. Jane, 24 Hipango Terrrace, married -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. 1

In the 1954 New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981.

Brown, Alan Mackechnie, Hipango Terrrace Extn., clerk. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui.

Brown Lily, 24 Hipango Terrrace, married -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. Marion Renee, 24 Hipango Terrrace, schoolteacher. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. Marjorie Mary, 16 Bristow St. married. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui.

Brown, Phyllis May, Hipango Terrrace Extension, married -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. William Leslie, 16 Bristow St. secretary -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui.

Spencer, Herbert, 46 Hipango Terrrace, retired -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. Jane, 46 Hipango Terrrace, married -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. 1

In the 1957 New Zealand Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981.

Brown, Alan Mackechnie, 44 Hipango Terrrace, public accountant -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui.

Brown Lily, 24 Hipango Terrrace, widow. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. Marion Renee, 24 Hipango Terrrace, spinster. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. Marjorie Mary, 16 Bristow St. married. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui.

Brown, Phyllis May, 44 Hipango Terrrace Extension, married. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. William Leslie, 16 Bristow St. accountant. -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui.

Spencer, Herbert, 46 Hipango Terrrace, minister of religion -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui. Jane, 46 Hipango Terrrace, married -Manawatu-Wanganui > Wanganui.

Sources

  1. Source: #S52 I found Alan in the 1954 census, he was on page 18 of 151, Wanganui General Roll. I changed the page number a few times, and eventually found the Spencers on page 114. At 46 Hipango Terrace were Herbert Spencer (Minister of Religion) and Jane Spence Certainty: 3
  2. Source: #S119
  3. Source: #S115 Hi Rod, I've found Mum's birth certificate. Her mother's maiden name was Messenger. ( Jane Messenger) .. Herbert Spencer was born in 1881 and came from Croston, En gland. Jane was born 1887 and came from Tarleton, England. More to follow later. Kind Certainty: 3
  4. Source: #S119
  5. Source: #S912 Births Jun 1881 SPENCER Herbert Chorley 8e 547 Certainty: 3
  6. Source: #S397 Death: 1961/35572 Spencer Herbert 80Y Certainty: 3
  7. Source: #S341
  8. Source: #S118 Hi Rod, This is very interesting as I remember grandmother Spence r telling me that she met Herbert when they worked in the m ills and he was a supervisor. Herbert subsequently left the mills to join the clergy an d came out to NZ as a Methodist Minister. Certainty: 3
  9. Source: #S912 Marriages Mar 1908 MESSENGER Jane Chorley 8e 877 SPENCER Herbert Chorley 8e 877 Certainty: 3
  • Source: S115 Herbert Spencer married Jane Messenger. Publication: Hi Rod, I've found Mum's birth certificate. Her mother's maiden name was Messenger. ( Jane Messenger) .. Herbert Spencer was born in 1881 and came from Croston, England. Jane was born 1887 and came from Tarleton, England. More to follow later. Kind regards Barrie
  • Source: S118 FW: Spencer and Messenger families in the UK. Publication: Hi Rod, This is very interesting as I remember grandmother Spencer telling me that she met Herbert when they worked in the mills and he was a supervisor. This all ties in with what Warwick has found out. Herbert subsequently left the mills to join the clergy and came out to NZ as a Methodist Minister. Jane came out later because I remember her telling me about the journey out to NZ on the ship when she was newly married and travelling on her own. Regards Barrie
  • Source: S119 1901 England Census
  • Source: S341 Papers Past Publication: http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/
  • Source: S397 BIRTH, DEATH & MARRIAGE HISTORICAL RECORDS New Zealand historical records Publication: http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2fqueryEntry.m%3ftype%3dbirths#SearchResults
  • Source: S52 Phyllis May Spencer Rod Brown Publication: Hi Warwick, I found Alan in the 1954 census, he was on page 18 of 151, Wanganui General Roll. I changed the page number a few times, and eventually found the Spencers on page 114. At 46 Hipango Terrace were Herbert Spencer (Minister of Religion) and Jane Spencer. I found them in Dannevirke in the 1914 census, Herbert being a school teacher, and Jane being married. In 1946 they were living in Sanson. Herbert was a Minister, Janie was married. (I assume that Janie is still the same person as Jane). In 1949 they were living at 24 Hipango tce. Herbert was retired. Jane was married. For more background, you may wish to call Ian Jolley. He would probably remember them. Cheers, Rod.
  • Source: S912 Free BMD Publication: www//http/FreeBMD.org.uk Note: Source Medium: Book


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