Clare Spring
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Clare Spring
Born 1980s.
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Daughter of [private father (1940s - unknown)] and [private mother (1950s - unknown)]
Sister of [private brother (1980s - unknown)]
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Biography

My name is Clare Spring, I was born in 1987 at the Royal Canberra Hospital in Canberra, Australia. My mother was born in Auckland, New Zealand and my father was born in Melbourne.

  • I love listening to all different types of music, but especially live music.
  • I like the idea of an 'endless summer' (without bushfires!).
  • My partner Josh and I have been together since 2005. We both like to travel.
  • I love drinking all different types of tea, and really appreciate tea houses. Ditto alcohol/cocktail bars; food/restaurants; beer/pubs; movies/cinemas.
  • I have a balcony garden including parsley and succulents. Perhaps my most prized plant is a yellow crown of thorns.
  • Before I came to Wikitree, I used to edit Wikipedia.

Genealogy and ancestral origins

I started researching my family history in February 2017. Wikitree has been an extraordinarily helpful platform to do this and to contain my research (including well beyond my close family!). I love old photos, stories and history. I feel lucky to live in Australia, and I acknowledge and respect the Traditional Owners of this Country.

Paternal ancestry

Before Australia, my Spring ancestors were most recently from County Tipperary, Ireland (in the country's southern region). In particular, my 3rd great grandmother Sarah (Gavan) Spring was in Borrisokane when she died in 1882. It seems likely that my Springs in Ireland were descendants of Thomas Spring (1545?–1597), but I've struggled and been unable to find records that relate to Sarah's ancestry, or her husband William Spring's [brick walls].
Actually, all of my paternal grandfather's migrating ancestors to Australia were from Ireland and they probably all came within a five-year period:
My paternal grandmother's ancestors who migrated to Australia were from:

Maternal ancestry

Mum's dad George Marshall was born in Auckland, the son of English migrants. His father was born in Wimbledon, Surrey, with Norfolk and Hampshire in his ancestral tree. His mother was born in Saltfleetby, Lincolnshire, with Kent and Lincolnshire in her ancestral tree.
Mum's mum Elizabeth (Campbell) Marshall migrated to New Zealand when she was a 5-year-old in 1923. Her father Norman Michael Campbell (my great-grandfather) was born in South Africa. He married my great-grandmother Lydia Talbot in Northumberland. We don't know much about Norman Michael Campbell's parents, only that both his parents died while he was still young and his father was a Scotsman named Norman [brick wall].

My Wikitree research

I'm particularly keen to "grow branches", meet family members (please get in touch!), and to add information to the my ancestor's Wikitree profiles.
I'm also keen to:

Timeline

  • 1987 Born in Canberra, Australia (home was Weetangera)
  • 1993 to 1996 Attended Weetangera Primary School
  • 1997 to 1998 Attended Curtin Primary School
  • 1999 to 2002 Attended Alfred Deakin High School
  • 2003 to 2004 Attended Hawker College
  • 2005 Spent around 6 months traveling in Europe
  • 2006 to 2009 Attended Australian National University (BA, BComm)
  • 2008 Moved to Seattle, Washington
  • 2008 to 2009 Attended University of Washington, Seattle (on university exchange)
  • 2009 Moved to Griffith, Canberra
  • 2010 Moved to Narrabundah, Canberra
  • 2011 Moved to Braddon, Canberra
  • 2013 to 2016 Attended Queensland University of Technology - MBus (PR)

Census

I have been counted in six Australian Census collections. In 2016 ("Censusfail"), I was away on a holiday in Europe.
  • 1991 Census - Weetangera, ACT
  • 1996 Census - Weetangera, ACT
  • 2001 Census - Weetangera, ACT
  • 2006 Census - Weetangera, ACT
  • 2011 Census - Braddon, ACT
  • 2021 Census - Braddon, ACT

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Hi Clare.

You may already be doing this but I thought I would write in case you aren't.

I noticed your Irish brick walls, and their mid-1800's timeframe, and thought I would suggest an avenue of research that I have found productive for it. Due to the Irish Civil registry Birth coverage lagging sometimes 20 years behind in Catholic areas compared to Protestant, I have looked first to establish the full spread of the family a target ancestor left behind, via the oldest Civil Marriages I can find for that family in that district. The location key is the Irish Townland, so you must be fairly certain of that first, but the advantage us Australians have is our foreknowlege of parents names for all our States' Civil death indexes. So what you look for in the images of the Civil Marriages for a lead is the fathers name first, his occupation, then the Townland name.

Chat more soon. Ross Howat.

posted by Ross Howat
edited by Ross Howat
Hi Ross - thank you so much for your note, it is very kind of you to share.

I haven't looked into my Irish brickwalls in some time - it would definitely be worthwhile to try again.

I have a question for you - what are the best websites for searching Irish records, in your experience?

posted by Clare Spring
Further to this - I just searched at https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie, and couldn't even find the record of death for Sarah (Gavan) Spring, who I am quite sure died in Ireland in 1882. I'm definitely out of practice, though, so it could be user-error.
posted by Clare Spring
Clare I had a read of your SPRING/GAVAN line and i see you are already all over Townlands, Griffiths, irishgenealogy, etc. I have a current FMP subs, which I have found good for Irish Parish records, and I noticed BORRISOKANE. The uniqeness of Gaelic place names I have found is a firm cross-check for potential family, and I read your research notes against WILLIAM SPRING senior.

(You may of course already researched this but) prior to WILLIAM Jnr. and Frances arriving on the ELECTRIC, and prior to JOHN arriving on the RED JACKET, another SPRING family, complete with older parents, arrived on the MERLIN in 1856, and I am pretty sure they were from Borrisokane.

JOHN SPRING, b. (TIPP) abt.1801 - d.1878; Vic. d.reg. 5088/1878; and ELLEN ODWYER SPRING, b. ('NENA') (prob. NENAGH) abt.1807 - d.1867; Vic. d.reg. 6163/1867. JOHN SPRING and ELEANOR DWYRE have an 1825 NENAGH parish marriage (FMP). They then had children Baptised in Borrisokane, and are both buried (with others) in Melbourne General Cem., plot MGC-RC-Comp-Q-No-236. It also seems that JOHN SPRING had a brother JAMES SPRING (d.1877 Vic.) who came out, never married, and left a Will readable on PRoV which gives good insight into the ID of more of their branch.

Is it possible that your young SPRING branch came out to initially settle in here with their Uncle? Ross.

posted by Ross Howat
Hi Clare, I see you created and found details of Walter Grove, who is my maternal great grand father. I added details in of his third marriage which resulted in two children, Eleanor (Babs) and Margaret (Peggy), who I both remember fondly.

I don't know much about his first two marriages and why they both died so soon after getting married to him (2 years). What is your relationship to him and was his 3rd wife Australian too? many thanks Graham Wilson

posted by Graham Wilson
Hi Graham, thanks for your note! I'm 9 degrees from Walter Grove, which is quite close, but not quite 'seven circles' close.

Perhaps when Emily and Margaret died, it was due to complications resulting from childbirth? It looks like neither had children. I had a quick look in at Walter's third wife (Bridget, but I couldn't work out where she might have been born.

Good luck in your search, I hope you find some answers!

Best, Clare

posted by Clare Spring
I Clare, have you looked at FamilySearch.org, a FREE FH site, all of your family is on this site. Make an account, sign in, top left "Family Tree" pull down to "Find" open it, see "Find by Name" or "Find by ID" open "Find by ID" copy & paste this into it 9HK9-JJQ now you'll see Lieutenant Colonel Frank Leon Outtrim 1847-1917on left press name, will ask " Tree" or "Person" open person, now you can see his information, at top list "Sources" where info was found. Go to bottom of his page, you'll see his wives, children, parents etc. By pressing on any of these individuals you can see their page.

This FH program is an open to any one, meaning anyone can Add, Edit, etc. anyone's info, plus add memories, pictures etc. It's one big family of millions of linked individuals, so we're one big family. Give it a try, you can copy off this site & paste onto yours.

Clare, God Bless you on your on going research, Don Outram Haliburton, Ontario, Canada

posted by Don Outram
Thanks Don!

I use FamilySearch all the time, it's a wonderful resource.

My connection to Lieutenant Colonel Frank Leon Outtrim 1847-1917 (whose profile I recently added a death record to) is only Victoria - my dad was born there and I have focused my research efforts there in an unofficial 'one place study'. I see he and I are currently 20 degrees on Wikitree, which isn't too far but certainly not close! 

Best wishes to you too in your family history research — are you and Frank closely related?

Sincerely, Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Hi Clare, and thanks for adding to my tree; as always, greatly appreciated !

Many thanks,

posted by Roger Irving
Thank you so much for your thoughtful contributions and biography details, you've added some nice touches to my relatives I was surprised to find on here - thanks for your contributions!
posted by Anonymous Lingbloom
Thank you for this kind note - it's heartwarming to hear your feedback! Cheers :)
posted by Clare Spring
Clare, you admin a post for John Chapman of Shoreham Kent birth and Louth Lincolnshire death - b 1853 d 1920. I am his great grandson ( directly descended via Henry Chapman. I am new to wiki tree but have done a lot og genealogy on ancestry and in person at PRONI and other archival sites. I can add some information to John's family but am having a bit of difficulty navigating WIKI.

Would really appreciate some assistamce perhaps? I was adopted so do not sport the Chapman name my email is [email address removed] I was born Christopher Chapman in Sault Ste, Marie Canada.

posted by Chris Chapman
Thanks Chris for reaching out, I look forward to collaborating!
posted by Clare Spring
Thanks Claire for the update on Blanche Mary Philomena (nee Allan) Smiley. I had it written in Wikitree somewhere else.

I would suppose by the other entries, that we are not related but unaware of a connection.

Cheers, Ian Keith Smiley

posted by Keith Smiley
Thanks Ian - by the way, your last name is cool!
posted by Clare Spring
Thanks Clare for all the improvements you have made to my Boykett family's profiles.
posted by Doug Laidlaw
Hello Clare,

we wonder why you are involved with the family of Dunlop, Olivia Mary and Hughina Adelaide ? Olwyn my wife, is the daughter of Edna Agnes Isobel Dunlop, the missing family member of Walter and Mary Dunlop. We would be very interested to hear from you!! We could be helpful to give you further info of the family. Kind regards, Olwyn and Manfred Scharley

posted by Manfred Scharley
Hi Olwyn, Manfred,

I'm sorry I didn't come back to you sooner, and thanks for your note! I am 18 degrees from Hughina, so my relationship is not close. I have been on a bit of a Wikitree mission, to add sources to Victorian profiles, and came across the Dunlop profiles in that mission.

Apologies again for my slow reply, and all the best in your family research!

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
edited by Clare Spring
Hi again Olwyn and Manfred, just a note to connect you to Robyn (Litster) Stanger, she noted a family connection with your profiles (see comment on my profile). I hope you and Robyn are able to connect!
posted by Clare Spring
Hi Clare ~ As you are our Spring expert, I wonder if you have anyone notes on this gentleman?

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spring-6360

Thanks!

posted by Maggie N.
Hi Clare,

I see you edited a number of Humphrey profiles, so I assume we may be related in some way, most of my work is in Ancestry however I did export an older tree into wikitree some years ago, my ggg Grandfather was John Humphrey and gg grandfather was Frederick, his brothers were Henry and Herbert and one sister Elizabeth. I see you seem to be connected to Henry's side and if so I look forward to seeing there profiles updated. I have some of pictures of his side including Frederick William whom lost his life in WW1. Happy to exchange information with you if you wish. ps I have done a dna test which is in wikitree and ancestry best regards Rod Humphrey

posted by Rod Humphrey
Thanks for your note! Not related, just on a bit of a Wikitree splurge, adding sources, biography, etc., mostly concentrating on Victorian profiles.

It would be great to get your pics on Wikitree - let me know if you need a hand, always happy to help!

posted by Clare Spring
Hello Clare, thanks for noticing the duplicate profiles for some of my persons of interest. I've approved the merges form my end.

Have a great festive season! Christine

Thanks for the note Christine, and you too have a great festive season!
posted by Clare Spring
Hello Clare,

I have just added some notes to the Profiles you have edited recently for a Marriage in 1936 between Ernest Arthur Little and Margaret Louisa Jane Rawlings. That particular marriage can NOT have ever taken place because THAT Ernest Little actually drowned aged 7 years during 1918. Thus he could never have married. We respectfully suggest that you continue searching for the correct Ernest Little and wish you all the best in your efforts. Regards Geof.

posted by Geoffrey Coleman
Hello Geoffrey

Thanks for your note.

It's sad to hear that Ernest drowned at just the age of 7.

I did want to point out, though, that I did not edit for a marriage in 1936 between Ernest Arthur Little and Margaret Louisa Jane Rawlings.

I reviewed the edits I made to these to profiles and there are only two: 1. Added location and maintenance tags to Ernest's profile, including a 'Needs Marriage Record' tag, which flags that no records are provided for a marriage recorded in the profile. 2. Added an 'unsourced' and maintenance tags to Margaret's profile, including a 'Needs Marriage Record' as described in pt 1. above.

Best for all your future family history research, and thanks for correcting mistakes on Wikitree (although this time I wasn't the culprit of the mistake :) )

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Hi Clare,

Thanks for clarifying your role in this situation, I hope that my comments were not construed as being accusatory. Hopefully the person [culprit] who "connected" these two people will see the notes and subsequently "disconnect" Ernest from Margaret. It was presumptuous of me to think that you had "connected" them. I thought Margaret may have been a relative of yours and that you would be seeking to expand on your trees. I appreciate your courteous response. I admit to having a giggle over this situation. Best Wishes, Geof

posted by Geoffrey Coleman
Cheers Geof. Also, I have expanded out Ernest's profile some, I think there'll be no more mistakes with him! Best, Clare
posted by Clare Spring
edited by Clare Spring
Clare,

Very impressed, you have done a beaut job in editing Ernest's profile, the newspaper excepts top it off. Much Appreciated. Geof

posted by Geoffrey Coleman
Hello Clare,

Thank you for your help and, interest in my tree. It was very much appreciated. Kind Regards, Anne 🙏

posted by Anne Robbins
Hello Clare, I noticed that you merged James Mitchell (1895-1896) into James Atkinson (1895-1896). Can you tell me what source you used to merge those two profiles? The profile for James Mitchell previously had parents attached, an Unknown Mitchell father and Ciara Humphreys as a mother. James Atkinson has different parents. Did you discover some information, it would be great to make a note of that on the profile if you did. Thanks, Laura
posted by Laura DeSpain
Hello Laura,

I actually only changed the LNAB for James Mitchell - not his parents. Changing a LNAB shows in the change logs as "creating" and then "merging", but it's nothing more than changing LNAB.

If you look at the change log for James Mitchell (1895-1896) you will see that he had Gertrude Lily (Mitchell) Atkinson and James William Atkinson set as his parents since May 2014 (not Ciara Humphries and Unknown Mitchell your refer to).

The information I discovered was his birth record, which I did add to his profile at the time of changing last name at birth.

Let me know if you need anything further on this,

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
edited by Clare Spring
Thank you for replying, I do know the difference, but created did not show in the log that I was looking at. I admit there was something odd about that profile. It originally had the mother added as both father and mother. Then the father was added and it doesn't show the mother was removed as the father. I did make the mistake of saying that Ciara was the mother, she actually created the profile, I apologize for that error. Thank you, for working on that profile and correcting it. :-)
posted by Laura DeSpain
Hi Clare...I see you edited the biography of Mary and Elizabeth Fitzgibbons. Are you related to them? I am.

Barb

posted by [Living McLaughlin]
Thanks Barbara-Anne for the note - not related, just adding birth records and categories to Victorian profiles... I'm trying to reduce the number of Victorian profiles that don't have birth records, using the Needs Birth Record category to find targets.

Hope you're well, Clare

posted by Clare Spring
To Clare - Thanks for the offer. I can upload the photos O.K. but I may have to make a profile for Charles and Susan Eastwood as I can't find one there at present. If one is there could you please notify me. (Now that I have learned how to scan and upload files I am going through a lot of photos as sometimes I am the only one who knows who the people are). There is a Martin Fogarty I have found. I can't find a direct connection but he came from Templemore in Tipperary. Where my lot came from). He was a member of the first bushranging gang in Melbourne and was hanged on the site of R.M.I.T. in 1842. Even then, the Fogarty's had a connection with education! - Peter.
posted by Peter Fogarty
Hi Peter

I can't see a profile there for Charles and Susan Eastwood. Let me know if you run into any issues creating them.

Good stuff going through the photos! I too have a Tipperary connection, my second great-grandfather William Spring, who came to Australia 1861 (aged 18 years and traveling with his sister) was from Tipperary.

I love how your bushranger connection has become an education connection, hehe!

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
To Clare - Peter Fogarty again. Hannah Jane Fogarty was the daughter of Charles and Susan Eastwood and I have photos and information of her ancestors. (There is also a book about this too). The book was entitled "Of The Family Of Abraham - The Eastwoods in Dublin Dundalk and Drysdale?"
posted by Peter Fogarty
Hi Peter,

If you are having any trouble with Wikitree, including with editing the profile for Hannah Jane (Eastwood) Fogarty, or with uploading photos, please feel free to email me and I will assist putting photos online.

Best regards,

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Hi Clare, I noted on My Heritage that you have Arthur Henry Spring in your tree. He was the illegitimate son my my great grandmother Sarah Jane Spring, nee Anthony. He was born 2 years after her husband Henry William Spring died in Brisbane in 1884. I have not been able to find information about him other than his birth certificate. Sarah had 5 daughters and one son, James, who was my grandfather. I wondered if Arthur had been adopted and would be very interested if anyone can give me information about him. Sarah's circumstances were very poor as the family arrived only about 9 months before Henry died of cancer aged 34. Her children were put into an orphanage for many years and she had to work very hard to support herself. Any information would be a great help. I doubt anyone in my family knew of Arthur. Elaine Phillips
posted by Elaine Hertweck
Hi Elaine

I haven't been able to find a reference to Arthur Henry Spring in the tree I have on MyHeritage? My research is all on Wikitree, MyHeritage is just a blip that I haven't invested much into..

I did find Arthur on Wikitree, though: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spring-3051, sorry no information beyond the birth record.

Good luck, and if you do find anything I'd be happy to assist adding it to Wikitree!

Best, Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Hi Clare. Just a note to say that links to Victoria BDM search results are session-based and not persistent. For example on John Charles Edney (1862-) it looks as if you have added the link

https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/5f5d57c51e980e23d5bdb9b1

If I click on that, there is an error message "Sorry - our system is experiencing a technical problem. Please try again later. (Error code: { {errorCode} })". This error message is not well expressed! But it arises because the 5f5d57c51e980e23d5bdb9b1 code was specific to your temporary session, and will not work for anyone else (or probably even for you after an hour or two expiry time).

They have accidentally or deliberately designed their system so that there is no ongoing way to link to search results. This is confirmed at this link which says "It is not possible to link to the search results page."

Kind regards—Jim

posted by Jim Richardson
edited by Jim Richardson
Hi Jim, I just moved the link up, so it wasn't a split reference. It wasn't my link, and I know it isn't a good one, but at least the reference is altogether now. I tend to split my Wikitree time between phone time (where I mostly just add categories) and PC time where I add biographies and sources. Normal source format I use is as on this profile.
posted by Clare Spring
Thanks Clare. I missed that you moved the link rather than adding it. On a phone it could be hard to insert a useful link instead (though maybe removing the bad link altogether is an option). The Sisson profile looks good.
posted by Jim Richardson
To Clare - Thank you for your work on the Fogarty's. I'll just inform you that Gertrude May (Drew) Fogarty was born on September Twelve 1894 and died on June Twenty-Six 1988. Again, many thanks for your work - Peter Fogarty. (Grandson of Gertrude).
posted by Peter Fogarty
Hi Claire, thank you so much for all the information you have provided me with regarding my great grand parents William Edward Spring and Ellen Frances MacDonald, we knew very little about Ellen and for some reason assumed she was adopted. You have given my my great great grand parents names. Thank you once again Helen Woods
posted by Helen Woods
Hi, Clare!

Thank you for your participation in October’s 2020 Source-a-thon. Your contributions helped us to clear over 57,000 profiles that needed sourcing. This makes our Shared Tree all that much better.

Keep up the great work!

Pippin Sheppard WikiTree’s Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard
Hi Clare, as per our G2g post https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1111228/australia-project-profile-improvement-maintenance-categories, could you not add any more profiles to the "Victoria needs birth/death/marriage" categories? Many thanks, regards, Margaret
Hi Clare,

Since you manage, or have contributed to, a number of Prentice profiles I invite you to check-out the new One Name Study for the Prentice surname. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Prentice_Name_Study

Best - RP

posted by Ronald Prentice
Hi Ronald

The Prentice profiles I manage are cousins, I haven't (yet?) come across the name in my ancestral lines.

Thanks for your note and good luck with your study, I have had a good go at it with the Spring study and have found it to be a lot of work but worthwhile!

Best,

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Thanks for bringing me into your tree Clare, this is the first contact I have had from within Wikitree after 6 years, and has kickstarted me into getting more done.

You have done so much work that I can piggy back on.

Murray Wigg.

posted by Murray Wigg