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My name is Clare Spring, I was born in 1987 at the Royal Canberra Hospital in Canberra, Australia. My mother was born in Auckland, New Zealand and my father was born in Melbourne.
I love listening to all different types of music, but especially live music.
I like the idea of an 'endless summer' (without bushfires!).
My partner Josh and I have been together since 2005. We both like to travel.
I love drinking all different types of tea, and really appreciate tea houses. Ditto alcohol/cocktail bars; food/restaurants; beer/pubs; movies/cinemas.
I have a balcony garden including parsley and succulents. Perhaps my most prized plant is a yellow crown of thorns.
Before I came to Wikitree, I used to edit Wikipedia.
Genealogy and ancestral origins
I started researching my family history in February 2017. Wikitree has been an extraordinarily helpful platform to do this and to contain my research (including well beyond my close family!). I love old photos, stories and history. I feel lucky to live in Australia, and I acknowledge and respect the Traditional Owners of this Country.
Paternal ancestry
Before Australia, my Spring ancestors were most recently from County Tipperary, Ireland (in the country's southern region). In particular, my 3rd great grandmother Sarah (Gavan) Spring was in Borrisokane when she died in 1882. It seems likely that my Springs in Ireland were descendants of Thomas Spring (1545?–1597), but I've struggled and been unable to find records that relate to Sarah's ancestry, or her husband William Spring's [brick walls].
Actually, all of my paternal grandfather's migrating ancestors to Australia were from Ireland and they probably all came within a five-year period:
I'm not sure when Margaret (Stakelum) Branagan arrived (certainly before her marriage in August 1858) - and while I know the names of her parents, I have no further details about them [brick walls].
My paternal grandmother's ancestors who migrated to Australia were from:
Mum's dad George Marshall was born in Auckland, the son of English migrants. His father was born in Wimbledon, Surrey, with Norfolk and Hampshire in his ancestral tree. His mother was born in Saltfleetby, Lincolnshire, with Kent and Lincolnshire in her ancestral tree.
Mum's mum Elizabeth (Campbell) Marshall migrated to New Zealand when she was a 5-year-old in 1923. Her father Norman Michael Campbell (my great-grandfather) was born in South Africa. He married my great-grandmother Lydia Talbot in Northumberland. We don't know much about Norman Michael Campbell's parents, only that both his parents died while he was still young and his father was a Scotsman named Norman [brick wall].
My Wikitree research
I'm particularly keen to "grow branches", meet family members (please get in touch!), and to add information to the my ancestor's Wikitree profiles.
I'm also keen to:
learn more about my migrating ancestors
bust my brick walls (particularly those highlighted above), and
2006 to 2009 Attended Australian National University (BA, BComm)
2008 Moved to Seattle, Washington
2008 to 2009 Attended University of Washington, Seattle (on university exchange)
2009 Moved to Griffith, Canberra
2010 Moved to Narrabundah, Canberra
2011 Moved to Braddon, Canberra
2013 to 2016 Attended Queensland University of Technology - MBus (PR)
Census
I have been counted in six Australian Census collections. In 2016 ("Censusfail"), I was away on a holiday in Europe.
1991 Census - Weetangera, ACT
1996 Census - Weetangera, ACT
2001 Census - Weetangera, ACT
2006 Census - Weetangera, ACT
2011 Census - Braddon, ACT
2021 Census - Braddon, ACT
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Hello, Clare, just a word about editing managed profiles.
When you add things to a profile with an active manager, it is not good form to reformat their work. What you add should be - as best you can - in the same style as what exists.
Also, please do not rewrite parts of the biography to suit you, nor remove spacing that was made deliberately - especially when the profile is for a Notable (Australian or otherwise).
Thanks, Melanie Paul, Australia Project Notables Team team leader.
I think that your comment relates to my edit today to the profile for John Goodwin Leith, where I added references to his second child (previously referred to his daughter only), and his wife's death. This edit did include a mistake, which I fixed when I spotted it (before your comment on my profile).
I would not characterise this edit as re-writing parts of the biography. To add details of Jack's second child (going from mentioning one child to listing two), I did use dot points. I suspect this is what you are seeing as something to suit me? I see that you have removed the dot points, this is your personal preference and your perogative.
Honestly I was trying for a light-touch change (though it seems it was not interpreted that way).
To address your edited out query regards a biography header not being required - it is there, where it is supposed to be, above the full biography.
What is often done for the profiles of Notable persons is to separate the Notability "blurb" from the actual biography with a sub-header, a sticker, or an image. That way whatever narrative-style biography is there doesn't get mashed up with the blurb - which is also why I restored the white space you removed between the blurb and the life events sub-header.
I thought I should explain myself in case you ever notice that I remove any 'Melbourne' category you add to profiles I visit — unless of course there is an actual sourced Melbourne connection. You appear to be using it to cover the Melbourne metropolitan area, and I feel it will create problems for anyone looking to specifically target Melbourne proper as a birthplace or residence — it could potentially throw up thousands of unrelated profiles.
I know, being a country person, we use Melbourne in a generic sense all the time, but I'm pretty sure that isn't the purpose of the Melbourne category. I wonder if you can get a specific category created for the metro area in general.
That aside, keep up the good work Clare, and all the best for the new year.
May you break down your brick walls.
Cheers, Christine.
As profile manager for William Henry Brain Brain-353, I have linked your Brain-1127 entry as a child of William and Julia.
I notice that Brain-1127 has no Profile Manager. I think it is helpful to add yourself as profile manager for profiles you create, unless you have reasons for not doing so (which I would not need to know). If the latter, I can adopt that profile.
The Brain family is my wife's paternal line. There are extensive further family connections in
England to Tasmania - Brain Family 1744-1996, Perkins, Bev 1991, ISBN 0 646 03986 5
which I simply don't have the time to add. If you are interested, I can share a link to a pdf of same.
Kind regards,
Basil Tkaczuk
Hello Clare you seem to have looked in detail at Frank Shmith & Robert Alexander Shmith they are my father and half brother (respectively) I live in the UK and Frank died in 1977. I knew nothing of Roberts existence literally until this evening (Tues 18 June)!
Are you related to us in some way. Please feel free to contact me. Regards Phil
I just started doing my family tree and I noticed Leila Marion North is related to you.
She's my mums mother,making Leila my grandmother,would like to get in touch as I have some imformation that you may or may not have all the way back to Charles Augustus Bowden.
Cheers for now,David
You may already be doing this but I thought I would write in case you aren't.
I noticed your Irish brick walls, and their mid-1800's timeframe, and thought I would suggest an avenue of research that I have found productive for it. Due to the Irish Civil registry Birth coverage lagging sometimes 20 years behind in Catholic areas compared to Protestant, I have looked first to establish the full spread of the family a target ancestor left behind, via the oldest Civil Marriages I can find for that family in that district. The location key is the Irish Townland, so you must be fairly certain of that first, but the advantage us Australians have is our foreknowlege of parents names for all our States' Civil death indexes. So what you look for in the images of the Civil Marriages for a lead is the fathers name first, his occupation, then the Townland name.
Further to this - I just searched at https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie, and couldn't even find the record of death for Sarah (Gavan) Spring, who I am quite sure died in Ireland in 1882. I'm definitely out of practice, though, so it could be user-error.
Clare I had a read of your SPRING/GAVAN line and i see you are already all over Townlands, Griffiths, irishgenealogy, etc. I have a current FMP subs, which I have found good for Irish Parish records, and I noticed BORRISOKANE. The uniqeness of Gaelic place names I have found is a firm cross-check for potential family, and I read your research notes against WILLIAM SPRING senior.
(You may of course already researched this but) prior to WILLIAM Jnr. and Frances arriving on the ELECTRIC, and prior to JOHN arriving on the RED JACKET, another SPRING family, complete with older parents, arrived on the MERLIN in 1856, and I am pretty sure they were from Borrisokane.
JOHN SPRING, b. (TIPP) abt.1801 - d.1878; Vic. d.reg. 5088/1878; and ELLEN ODWYER SPRING, b. ('NENA') (prob. NENAGH) abt.1807 - d.1867; Vic. d.reg. 6163/1867. JOHN SPRING and ELEANOR DWYRE have an 1825 NENAGH parish marriage (FMP). They then had children Baptised in Borrisokane, and are both buried (with others) in Melbourne General Cem., plot MGC-RC-Comp-Q-No-236. It also seems that JOHN SPRING had a brother JAMES SPRING (d.1877 Vic.) who came out, never married, and left a Will readable on PRoV which gives good insight into the ID of more of their branch.
Is it possible that your young SPRING branch came out to initially settle in here with their Uncle?
Ross.
Hi Clare, I see you created and found details of Walter Grove, who is my maternal great grand father. I added details in of his third marriage which resulted in two children, Eleanor (Babs) and Margaret (Peggy), who I both remember fondly.
I don't know much about his first two marriages and why they both died so soon after getting married to him (2 years). What is your relationship to him and was his 3rd wife Australian too?
many thanks
Graham Wilson
Hi Graham, thanks for your note! I'm 9 degrees from Walter Grove, which is quite close, but not quite 'seven circles' close.
Perhaps when Emily and Margaret died, it was due to complications resulting from childbirth? It looks like neither had children. I had a quick look in at Walter's third wife (Bridget, but I couldn't work out where she might have been born.
Good luck in your search, I hope you find some answers!
I Clare, have you looked at FamilySearch.org, a FREE FH site, all of your family is on this site. Make an account, sign in, top left "Family Tree" pull down to "Find" open it, see "Find by Name" or "Find by ID" open "Find by ID" copy & paste this into it 9HK9-JJQ now you'll see Lieutenant Colonel Frank Leon Outtrim 1847-1917on left press name, will ask " Tree" or "Person" open person, now you can see his information, at top list "Sources" where info was found. Go to bottom of his page, you'll see his wives, children, parents etc. By pressing on any of these individuals you can see their page.
This FH program is an open to any one, meaning anyone can Add, Edit, etc. anyone's info, plus add memories, pictures etc. It's one big family of millions of linked individuals, so we're one big family. Give it a try, you can copy off this site & paste onto yours.
Clare, God Bless you on your on going research,
Don Outram Haliburton, Ontario, Canada
I use FamilySearch all the time, it's a wonderful resource.
My connection to Lieutenant Colonel Frank Leon Outtrim 1847-1917 (whose profile I recently added a death record to) is only Victoria - my dad was born there and I have focused my research efforts there in an unofficial 'one place study'. I see he and I are currently 20 degrees on Wikitree, which isn't too far but certainly not close!
Best wishes to you too in your family history research — are you and Frank closely related?
Thank you so much for your thoughtful contributions and biography details, you've added some nice touches to my relatives I was surprised to find on here - thanks for your contributions!
Clare, you admin a post for John Chapman of Shoreham Kent birth and Louth Lincolnshire death - b 1853 d 1920. I am his great grandson ( directly descended via Henry Chapman. I am new to wiki tree but have done a lot og genealogy on ancestry and in person at PRONI and other archival sites. I can add some information to John's family but am having a bit of difficulty navigating WIKI.
Would really appreciate some assistamce perhaps? I was adopted so do not sport the Chapman name my email is [email address removed] I was born Christopher Chapman in Sault Ste, Marie Canada.
we wonder why you are involved with the family of Dunlop, Olivia Mary and Hughina Adelaide ?
Olwyn my wife, is the daughter of Edna Agnes Isobel Dunlop, the missing family member of Walter and Mary Dunlop.
We would be very interested to hear from you!! We could be helpful to give you further info of the family.
Kind regards, Olwyn and Manfred Scharley
I'm sorry I didn't come back to you sooner, and thanks for your note! I am 18 degrees from Hughina, so my relationship is not close. I have been on a bit of a Wikitree mission, to add sources to Victorian profiles, and came across the Dunlop profiles in that mission.
Apologies again for my slow reply, and all the best in your family research!
Hi again Olwyn and Manfred, just a note to connect you to Robyn (Litster) Stanger, she noted a family connection with your profiles (see comment on my profile). I hope you and Robyn are able to connect!
I see you edited a number of Humphrey profiles, so I assume we may be related in some way, most of my work is in Ancestry however I did export an older tree into wikitree some years ago, my ggg Grandfather was John Humphrey and gg grandfather was Frederick, his brothers were Henry and Herbert and one sister Elizabeth. I see you seem to be connected to Henry's side and if so I look forward to seeing there profiles updated.
I have some of pictures of his side including Frederick William whom lost his life in WW1. Happy to exchange information with you if you wish.
ps I have done a dna test which is in wikitree and ancestry
best regards Rod Humphrey
I have just added some notes to the Profiles you have edited recently for a Marriage in 1936 between Ernest Arthur Little and Margaret Louisa Jane Rawlings. That particular marriage can NOT have ever taken place because THAT Ernest Little actually drowned aged 7 years during 1918. Thus he could never have married. We respectfully suggest that you continue searching for the correct Ernest Little and wish you all the best in your efforts. Regards Geof.
Best for all your future family history research, and thanks for correcting mistakes on Wikitree (although this time I wasn't the culprit of the mistake :) )
Thanks for clarifying your role in this situation, I hope that my comments were not construed as being accusatory. Hopefully the person [culprit] who "connected" these two people will see the notes and subsequently "disconnect" Ernest from Margaret.
It was presumptuous of me to think that you had "connected" them. I thought Margaret may have been a relative of yours and that you would be seeking to expand on your trees.
I appreciate your courteous response.
I admit to having a giggle over this situation.
Best Wishes, Geof
Hello Clare, I noticed that you merged James Mitchell (1895-1896) into James Atkinson (1895-1896). Can you tell me what source you used to merge those two profiles? The profile for James Mitchell previously had parents attached, an Unknown Mitchell father and Ciara Humphreys as a mother. James Atkinson has different parents. Did you discover some information, it would be great to make a note of that on the profile if you did. Thanks, Laura
I actually only changed the LNAB for James Mitchell - not his parents. Changing a LNAB shows in the change logs as "creating" and then "merging", but it's nothing more than changing LNAB.
Thank you for replying, I do know the difference, but created did not show in the log that I was looking at. I admit there was something odd about that profile. It originally had the mother added as both father and mother. Then the father was added and it doesn't show the mother was removed as the father. I did make the mistake of saying that Ciara was the mother, she actually created the profile, I apologize for that error. Thank you, for working on that profile and correcting it. :-)
Thanks Barbara-Anne for the note - not related, just adding birth records and categories to Victorian profiles... I'm trying to reduce the number of Victorian profiles that don't have birth records, using the Needs Birth Record category to find targets.
To Clare - Thanks for the offer. I can upload the photos O.K. but I may have to make a profile for Charles and Susan Eastwood as I can't find one there at present. If one is there could you please notify me. (Now that I have learned how to scan and upload files I am going through a lot of photos as sometimes I am the only one who knows who the people are). There is a Martin Fogarty I have found. I can't find a direct connection but he came from Templemore in Tipperary. Where my lot came from). He was a member of the first bushranging gang in Melbourne and was hanged on the site of R.M.I.T. in 1842. Even then, the Fogarty's had a connection with education! - Peter.
I can't see a profile there for Charles and Susan Eastwood. Let me know if you run into any issues creating them.
Good stuff going through the photos! I too have a Tipperary connection, my second great-grandfather William Spring, who came to Australia 1861 (aged 18 years and traveling with his sister) was from Tipperary.
I love how your bushranger connection has become an education connection, hehe!
To Clare - Peter Fogarty again. Hannah Jane Fogarty was the daughter of Charles and Susan Eastwood and I have photos and information of her ancestors. (There is also a book about this too). The book was entitled "Of The Family Of Abraham - The Eastwoods in Dublin Dundalk and Drysdale?"
If you are having any trouble with Wikitree, including with editing the profile for Hannah Jane (Eastwood) Fogarty, or with uploading photos, please feel free to email me and I will assist putting photos online.
Hi Clare, I noted on My Heritage that you have Arthur Henry Spring in your tree. He was the illegitimate son my my great grandmother Sarah Jane Spring, nee Anthony. He was born 2 years after her husband Henry William Spring died in Brisbane in 1884. I have not been able to find information about him other than his birth certificate. Sarah had 5 daughters and one son, James, who was my grandfather. I wondered if Arthur had been adopted and would be very interested if anyone can give me information about him. Sarah's circumstances were very poor as the family arrived only about 9 months before Henry died of cancer aged 34. Her children were put into an orphanage for many years and she had to work very hard to support herself. Any information would be a great help. I doubt anyone in my family knew of Arthur. Elaine Phillips
I haven't been able to find a reference to Arthur Henry Spring in the tree I have on MyHeritage? My research is all on Wikitree, MyHeritage is just a blip that I haven't invested much into..
Hi Clare. Just a note to say that links to Victoria BDM search results are session-based and not persistent. For example on John Charles Edney (1862-) it looks as if you have added the link
If I click on that, there is an error message "Sorry - our system is experiencing a technical problem. Please try again later. (Error code: { {errorCode} })". This error message is not well expressed! But it arises because the 5f5d57c51e980e23d5bdb9b1 code was specific to your temporary session, and will not work for anyone else (or probably even for you after an hour or two expiry time).
They have accidentally or deliberately designed their system so that there is no ongoing way to link to search results. This is confirmed at this link which says "It is not possible to link to the search results page."
Hi Jim, I just moved the link up, so it wasn't a split reference. It wasn't my link, and I know it isn't a good one, but at least the reference is altogether now. I tend to split my Wikitree time between phone time (where I mostly just add categories) and PC time where I add biographies and sources. Normal source format I use is as on this profile.
Thanks Clare. I missed that you moved the link rather than adding it. On a phone it could be hard to insert a useful link instead (though maybe removing the bad link altogether is an option). The Sisson profile looks good.
To Clare - Thank you for your work on the Fogarty's. I'll just inform you that Gertrude May (Drew) Fogarty was born on September Twelve 1894 and died on June Twenty-Six 1988. Again, many thanks for your work - Peter Fogarty. (Grandson of Gertrude).
Hi Claire, thank you so much for all the information you have provided me with regarding my great grand parents William Edward Spring and Ellen Frances MacDonald, we knew very little about Ellen and for some reason assumed she was adopted. You have given my my great great grand parents names. Thank you once again Helen Woods
Thank you for your participation in October’s 2020 Source-a-thon. Your contributions helped us to clear over 57,000 profiles that needed sourcing. This makes our Shared Tree all that much better.
The Prentice profiles I manage are cousins, I haven't (yet?) come across the name in my ancestral lines.
Thanks for your note and good luck with your study, I have had a good go at it with the Spring study and have found it to be a lot of work but worthwhile!
Thanks for bringing me into your tree Clare, this is the first contact I have had from within Wikitree after 6 years, and has kickstarted me into getting more done.
You have done so much work that I can piggy back on.
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When you add things to a profile with an active manager, it is not good form to reformat their work. What you add should be - as best you can - in the same style as what exists.
Also, please do not rewrite parts of the biography to suit you, nor remove spacing that was made deliberately - especially when the profile is for a Notable (Australian or otherwise).
Thanks, Melanie Paul, Australia Project Notables Team team leader.
I think that your comment relates to my edit today to the profile for John Goodwin Leith, where I added references to his second child (previously referred to his daughter only), and his wife's death. This edit did include a mistake, which I fixed when I spotted it (before your comment on my profile).
I would not characterise this edit as re-writing parts of the biography. To add details of Jack's second child (going from mentioning one child to listing two), I did use dot points. I suspect this is what you are seeing as something to suit me? I see that you have removed the dot points, this is your personal preference and your perogative.
Honestly I was trying for a light-touch change (though it seems it was not interpreted that way).
edited by Clare Spring
What is often done for the profiles of Notable persons is to separate the Notability "blurb" from the actual biography with a sub-header, a sticker, or an image. That way whatever narrative-style biography is there doesn't get mashed up with the blurb - which is also why I restored the white space you removed between the blurb and the life events sub-header.
I thought I should explain myself in case you ever notice that I remove any 'Melbourne' category you add to profiles I visit — unless of course there is an actual sourced Melbourne connection. You appear to be using it to cover the Melbourne metropolitan area, and I feel it will create problems for anyone looking to specifically target Melbourne proper as a birthplace or residence — it could potentially throw up thousands of unrelated profiles.
I know, being a country person, we use Melbourne in a generic sense all the time, but I'm pretty sure that isn't the purpose of the Melbourne category. I wonder if you can get a specific category created for the metro area in general.
That aside, keep up the good work Clare, and all the best for the new year. May you break down your brick walls. Cheers, Christine.
As profile manager for William Henry Brain Brain-353, I have linked your Brain-1127 entry as a child of William and Julia. I notice that Brain-1127 has no Profile Manager. I think it is helpful to add yourself as profile manager for profiles you create, unless you have reasons for not doing so (which I would not need to know). If the latter, I can adopt that profile. The Brain family is my wife's paternal line. There are extensive further family connections in England to Tasmania - Brain Family 1744-1996, Perkins, Bev 1991, ISBN 0 646 03986 5 which I simply don't have the time to add. If you are interested, I can share a link to a pdf of same. Kind regards, Basil Tkaczuk
Are you related to us in some way. Please feel free to contact me. Regards Phil
You seem to have done a LOT of work on the Colclough's. I would like to talk to you about it a lot more. You can email me at [email address removed]
I just started doing my family tree and I noticed Leila Marion North is related to you. She's my mums mother,making Leila my grandmother,would like to get in touch as I have some imformation that you may or may not have all the way back to Charles Augustus Bowden. Cheers for now,David
Leila Marion North was my uncle Brian's aunt. See: Leila's connection to me.
It would be great to be able to trace the North tree further back on Wikitree, I'll contact you by private message, would be glad to collaborate.
You may already be doing this but I thought I would write in case you aren't.
I noticed your Irish brick walls, and their mid-1800's timeframe, and thought I would suggest an avenue of research that I have found productive for it. Due to the Irish Civil registry Birth coverage lagging sometimes 20 years behind in Catholic areas compared to Protestant, I have looked first to establish the full spread of the family a target ancestor left behind, via the oldest Civil Marriages I can find for that family in that district. The location key is the Irish Townland, so you must be fairly certain of that first, but the advantage us Australians have is our foreknowlege of parents names for all our States' Civil death indexes. So what you look for in the images of the Civil Marriages for a lead is the fathers name first, his occupation, then the Townland name.
Chat more soon. Ross Howat.
edited by Ross Howat
I haven't looked into my Irish brickwalls in some time - it would definitely be worthwhile to try again.
I have a question for you - what are the best websites for searching Irish records, in your experience?
(You may of course already researched this but) prior to WILLIAM Jnr. and Frances arriving on the ELECTRIC, and prior to JOHN arriving on the RED JACKET, another SPRING family, complete with older parents, arrived on the MERLIN in 1856, and I am pretty sure they were from Borrisokane.
JOHN SPRING, b. (TIPP) abt.1801 - d.1878; Vic. d.reg. 5088/1878; and ELLEN ODWYER SPRING, b. ('NENA') (prob. NENAGH) abt.1807 - d.1867; Vic. d.reg. 6163/1867. JOHN SPRING and ELEANOR DWYRE have an 1825 NENAGH parish marriage (FMP). They then had children Baptised in Borrisokane, and are both buried (with others) in Melbourne General Cem., plot MGC-RC-Comp-Q-No-236. It also seems that JOHN SPRING had a brother JAMES SPRING (d.1877 Vic.) who came out, never married, and left a Will readable on PRoV which gives good insight into the ID of more of their branch.
Is it possible that your young SPRING branch came out to initially settle in here with their Uncle? Ross.
I don't know much about his first two marriages and why they both died so soon after getting married to him (2 years). What is your relationship to him and was his 3rd wife Australian too? many thanks Graham Wilson
Perhaps when Emily and Margaret died, it was due to complications resulting from childbirth? It looks like neither had children. I had a quick look in at Walter's third wife (Bridget, but I couldn't work out where she might have been born.
Good luck in your search, I hope you find some answers!
Best, Clare
This FH program is an open to any one, meaning anyone can Add, Edit, etc. anyone's info, plus add memories, pictures etc. It's one big family of millions of linked individuals, so we're one big family. Give it a try, you can copy off this site & paste onto yours.
Clare, God Bless you on your on going research, Don Outram Haliburton, Ontario, Canada
I use FamilySearch all the time, it's a wonderful resource.
My connection to Lieutenant Colonel Frank Leon Outtrim 1847-1917 (whose profile I recently added a death record to) is only Victoria - my dad was born there and I have focused my research efforts there in an unofficial 'one place study'. I see he and I are currently 20 degrees on Wikitree, which isn't too far but certainly not close!
Best wishes to you too in your family history research — are you and Frank closely related?
Sincerely, Clare
Many thanks,
Would really appreciate some assistamce perhaps? I was adopted so do not sport the Chapman name my email is [email address removed] I was born Christopher Chapman in Sault Ste, Marie Canada.
I would suppose by the other entries, that we are not related but unaware of a connection.
Cheers, Ian Keith Smiley
we wonder why you are involved with the family of Dunlop, Olivia Mary and Hughina Adelaide ? Olwyn my wife, is the daughter of Edna Agnes Isobel Dunlop, the missing family member of Walter and Mary Dunlop. We would be very interested to hear from you!! We could be helpful to give you further info of the family. Kind regards, Olwyn and Manfred Scharley
I'm sorry I didn't come back to you sooner, and thanks for your note! I am 18 degrees from Hughina, so my relationship is not close. I have been on a bit of a Wikitree mission, to add sources to Victorian profiles, and came across the Dunlop profiles in that mission.
Apologies again for my slow reply, and all the best in your family research!
Clare
edited by Clare Spring
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spring-6360
Thanks!
I see you edited a number of Humphrey profiles, so I assume we may be related in some way, most of my work is in Ancestry however I did export an older tree into wikitree some years ago, my ggg Grandfather was John Humphrey and gg grandfather was Frederick, his brothers were Henry and Herbert and one sister Elizabeth. I see you seem to be connected to Henry's side and if so I look forward to seeing there profiles updated. I have some of pictures of his side including Frederick William whom lost his life in WW1. Happy to exchange information with you if you wish. ps I have done a dna test which is in wikitree and ancestry best regards Rod Humphrey
It would be great to get your pics on Wikitree - let me know if you need a hand, always happy to help!
Have a great festive season! Christine
I have just added some notes to the Profiles you have edited recently for a Marriage in 1936 between Ernest Arthur Little and Margaret Louisa Jane Rawlings. That particular marriage can NOT have ever taken place because THAT Ernest Little actually drowned aged 7 years during 1918. Thus he could never have married. We respectfully suggest that you continue searching for the correct Ernest Little and wish you all the best in your efforts. Regards Geof.
Thanks for your note.
It's sad to hear that Ernest drowned at just the age of 7.
I did want to point out, though, that I did not edit for a marriage in 1936 between Ernest Arthur Little and Margaret Louisa Jane Rawlings.
I reviewed the edits I made to these to profiles and there are only two: 1. Added location and maintenance tags to Ernest's profile, including a 'Needs Marriage Record' tag, which flags that no records are provided for a marriage recorded in the profile. 2. Added an 'unsourced' and maintenance tags to Margaret's profile, including a 'Needs Marriage Record' as described in pt 1. above.
Best for all your future family history research, and thanks for correcting mistakes on Wikitree (although this time I wasn't the culprit of the mistake :) )
Clare
Thanks for clarifying your role in this situation, I hope that my comments were not construed as being accusatory. Hopefully the person [culprit] who "connected" these two people will see the notes and subsequently "disconnect" Ernest from Margaret. It was presumptuous of me to think that you had "connected" them. I thought Margaret may have been a relative of yours and that you would be seeking to expand on your trees. I appreciate your courteous response. I admit to having a giggle over this situation. Best Wishes, Geof
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Very impressed, you have done a beaut job in editing Ernest's profile, the newspaper excepts top it off. Much Appreciated. Geof
Thank you for your help and, interest in my tree. It was very much appreciated. Kind Regards, Anne 🙏
I actually only changed the LNAB for James Mitchell - not his parents. Changing a LNAB shows in the change logs as "creating" and then "merging", but it's nothing more than changing LNAB.
If you look at the change log for James Mitchell (1895-1896) you will see that he had Gertrude Lily (Mitchell) Atkinson and James William Atkinson set as his parents since May 2014 (not Ciara Humphries and Unknown Mitchell your refer to).
The information I discovered was his birth record, which I did add to his profile at the time of changing last name at birth.
Let me know if you need anything further on this,
Clare
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Barb
Hope you're well, Clare
I can't see a profile there for Charles and Susan Eastwood. Let me know if you run into any issues creating them.
Good stuff going through the photos! I too have a Tipperary connection, my second great-grandfather William Spring, who came to Australia 1861 (aged 18 years and traveling with his sister) was from Tipperary.
I love how your bushranger connection has become an education connection, hehe!
Clare
If you are having any trouble with Wikitree, including with editing the profile for Hannah Jane (Eastwood) Fogarty, or with uploading photos, please feel free to email me and I will assist putting photos online.
Best regards,
Clare
I haven't been able to find a reference to Arthur Henry Spring in the tree I have on MyHeritage? My research is all on Wikitree, MyHeritage is just a blip that I haven't invested much into..
I did find Arthur on Wikitree, though: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spring-3051, sorry no information beyond the birth record.
Good luck, and if you do find anything I'd be happy to assist adding it to Wikitree!
Best, Clare
https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/5f5d57c51e980e23d5bdb9b1
If I click on that, there is an error message "Sorry - our system is experiencing a technical problem. Please try again later. (Error code: { {errorCode} })". This error message is not well expressed! But it arises because the 5f5d57c51e980e23d5bdb9b1 code was specific to your temporary session, and will not work for anyone else (or probably even for you after an hour or two expiry time).
They have accidentally or deliberately designed their system so that there is no ongoing way to link to search results. This is confirmed at this link which says "It is not possible to link to the search results page."
Kind regards—Jim
edited by Jim Richardson
Thank you for your participation in October’s 2020 Source-a-thon. Your contributions helped us to clear over 57,000 profiles that needed sourcing. This makes our Shared Tree all that much better.
Keep up the great work!
Pippin Sheppard WikiTree’s Appreciation Team
Since you manage, or have contributed to, a number of Prentice profiles I invite you to check-out the new One Name Study for the Prentice surname. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Prentice_Name_Study
Best - RP
The Prentice profiles I manage are cousins, I haven't (yet?) come across the name in my ancestral lines.
Thanks for your note and good luck with your study, I have had a good go at it with the Spring study and have found it to be a lot of work but worthwhile!
Best,
Clare
You have done so much work that I can piggy back on.
Murray Wigg.