Clare Spring
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Clare Spring

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Clare Spring
Born 1980s.
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Daughter of [private father (1940s - unknown)] and [private mother (1950s - unknown)]
Sister of [private brother (1980s - unknown)]
Profile last modified | Created 8 Feb 2017 | Last significant change: 1 May 2022
07:00: Lewis Tulk posted a comment on the page for Clare Spring [Thank Lewis for this]
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Biography

My name is Clare Spring, I was born in Canberra, Australia in 1987. My mother was born in Auckland, New Zealand and my father was born in Melbourne.[1]

I started researching my family history in February 2017 and Wikitree has been an extraordinarily helpful platform to do this, and to contain all my research.

I'm particularly keen to "grow branches", meet family members (please get in touch!), and to add information to the profiles of my ancestors. I'm also keen to learn more about my migrating ancestors, including:

  • great-grandfather Norman Michael Campbell who was born in South Africa, married my great-grandmother Lydia Talbot in Northumberland, England, and moved to New Zealand in the 1920s with my grandmother Elizabeth.
  • great, great grandfather William Spring who moved to Australia from Ireland in the 1800s
  • great, great, great grandmother Frances Sheppard who moved to Australia with her family in the 1850s from Ireland
  • great, great grandfather William Frederick Salmon (born in Somerset and moved to Australia in the 1850s)

The table below outlines my progress identifying direct ancestors.

Gen. Relationship Dates of birth No. No. identified % identified
1Parents1940s to 1950s 2 2 100
2Grandparents1910s to 1920s4 4100
3Great grandparents1870s to 1890s88100
42nd great grandparents 1830s to 1860s161381.25
53rd great grandparents1790s to 1830s322371.875
64th great grandparentsTBD642945.3125

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Hello Clare ,

Thanks for entry . Do you have the details of Alma Fox's brother  ? Lewis Tulk ( son of Alma Fox and Claude Tulk )

posted by Lewis Tulk
Hello Clare,

I see you have edited several of my ancestors’ profiles, most recently Winifred Alumbagh Knight. Are you connected to the family or just correcting/adding information? Thanks, Lorraine

Hi Lorraine,

Thanks for your note. My genealogical connection is not terribly close - I'm 16 degrees from Isaac Knight, for example.

I've been doing my best to improve Victorian (Australian) profiles and came across these profiles that way.

Cheers, Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Hello Clare,

we wonder why you are involved with the family of Dunlop, Olivia Mary and Hughina Adelaide ? Olwyn my wife, is the daughter of Edna Agnes Isobel Dunlop, the missing family member of Walter and Mary Dunlop. We would be very interested to hear from you!! We could be helpful to give you further info of the family. Kind regards, Olwyn and Manfred Scharley

posted by Manfred Scharley
Hi Olwyn Manfred,

I'm sorry I didn't come back to you sooner, and thanks for your note! I am 18 degrees from Hughina, so my relationship is not close. I have been on a bit of a Wikitree mission, to add sources to Victorian profiles, and came across the Dunlop profiles in that mission.

Apologies again for my slow reply, and all the best in your family research!

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Hi Clare ~ As you are our Spring expert, I wonder if you have anyone notes on this gentleman?

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spring-6360

Thanks!

posted by Maggie N.
Hi Clare,

I see you edited a number of Humphrey profiles, so I assume we may be related in some way, most of my work is in Ancestry however I did export an older tree into wikitree some years ago, my ggg Grandfather was John Humphrey and gg grandfather was Frederick, his brothers were Henry and Herbert and one sister Elizabeth. I see you seem to be connected to Henry's side and if so I look forward to seeing there profiles updated. I have some of pictures of his side including Frederick William whom lost his life in WW1. Happy to exchange information with you if you wish. ps I have done a dna test which is in wikitree and ancestry best regards Rod Humphrey

posted by Rod Humphrey
Thanks for your note! Not related, just on a bit of a Wikitree splurge, adding sources, biography, etc., mostly concentrating on Victorian profiles.

It would be great to get your pics on Wikitree - let me know if you need a hand, always happy to help!

posted by Clare Spring
Hello Clare, thanks for noticing the duplicate profiles for some of my persons of interest. I've approved the merges form my end.

Have a great festive season! Christine

Thanks for the note Christine, and you too have a great festive season!
posted by Clare Spring
Hello Clare,

I have just added some notes to the Profiles you have edited recently for a Marriage in 1936 between Ernest Arthur Little and Margaret Louisa Jane Rawlings. That particular marriage can NOT have ever taken place because THAT Ernest Little actually drowned aged 7 years during 1918. Thus he could never have married. We respectfully suggest that you continue searching for the correct Ernest Little and wish you all the best in your efforts. Regards Geof.

posted by Geoffrey Coleman
Hello Geoffrey

Thanks for your note.

It's sad to hear that Ernest drowned at just the age of 7.

I did want to point out, though, that I did not edit for a marriage in 1936 between Ernest Arthur Little and Margaret Louisa Jane Rawlings.

I reviewed the edits I made to these to profiles and there are only two: 1. Added location and maintenance tags to Ernest's profile, including a 'Needs Marriage Record' tag, which flags that no records are provided for a marriage recorded in the profile. 2. Added an 'unsourced' and maintenance tags to Margaret's profile, including a 'Needs Marriage Record' as described in pt 1. above.

Best for all your future family history research, and thanks for correcting mistakes on Wikitree (although this time I wasn't the culprit of the mistake :) )

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Hi Clare,

Thanks for clarifying your role in this situation, I hope that my comments were not construed as being accusatory. Hopefully the person [culprit] who "connected" these two people will see the notes and subsequently "disconnect" Ernest from Margaret. It was presumptuous of me to think that you had "connected" them. I thought Margaret may have been a relative of yours and that you would be seeking to expand on your trees. I appreciate your courteous response. I admit to having a giggle over this situation. Best Wishes, Geof

posted by Geoffrey Coleman
Cheers Geof. Also, I have expanded out Ernest's profile some, I think there'll be no more mistakes with him! Best, Clare
posted by Clare Spring
edited by Clare Spring
Clare,

Very impressed, you have done a beaut job in editing Ernest's profile, the newspaper excepts top it off. Much Appreciated. Geof

posted by Geoffrey Coleman
Hello Clare,

Thank you for your help and, interest in my tree. It was very much appreciated. Kind Regards, Anne 🙏

posted by Anne Robbins
Hello Clare, I noticed that you merged James Mitchell (1895-1896) into James Atkinson (1895-1896). Can you tell me what source you used to merge those two profiles? The profile for James Mitchell previously had parents attached, an Unknown Mitchell father and Ciara Humphreys as a mother. James Atkinson has different parents. Did you discover some information, it would be great to make a note of that on the profile if you did. Thanks, Laura
posted by Laura DeSpain
Hello Laura,

I actually only changed the LNAB for James Mitchell - not his parents. Changing a LNAB shows in the change logs as "creating" and then "merging", but it's nothing more than changing LNAB.

If you look at the change log for James Mitchell (1895-1896) you will see that he had Gertrude Lily (Mitchell) Atkinson and James William Atkinson set as his parents since May 2014 (not Ciara Humphries and Unknown Mitchell your refer to).

The information I discovered was his birth record, which I did add to his profile at the time of changing last name at birth.

Let me know if you need anything further on this,

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
edited by Clare Spring
Thank you for replying, I do know the difference, but created did not show in the log that I was looking at. I admit there was something odd about that profile. It originally had the mother added as both father and mother. Then the father was added and it doesn't show the mother was removed as the father. I did make the mistake of saying that Ciara was the mother, she actually created the profile, I apologize for that error. Thank you, for working on that profile and correcting it. :-)
posted by Laura DeSpain
Hi Clare...I see you edited the biography of Mary and Elizabeth Fitzgibbons. Are you related to them? I am.

Barb

Thanks Barbara-Anne for the note - not related, just adding birth records and categories to Victorian profiles... I'm trying to reduce the number of Victorian profiles that don't have birth records, using the Needs Birth Record category to find targets.

Hope you're well, Clare

posted by Clare Spring
To Clare - Thanks for the offer. I can upload the photos O.K. but I may have to make a profile for Charles and Susan Eastwood as I can't find one there at present. If one is there could you please notify me. (Now that I have learned how to scan and upload files I am going through a lot of photos as sometimes I am the only one who knows who the people are). There is a Martin Fogarty I have found. I can't find a direct connection but he came from Templemore in Tipperary. Where my lot came from). He was a member of the first bushranging gang in Melbourne and was hanged on the site of R.M.I.T. in 1842. Even then, the Fogarty's had a connection with education! - Peter.
posted by Peter Fogarty
Hi Peter

I can't see a profile there for Charles and Susan Eastwood. Let me know if you run into any issues creating them.

Good stuff going through the photos! I too have a Tipperary connection, my second great-grandfather William Spring, who came to Australia 1861 (aged 18 years and traveling with his sister) was from Tipperary.

I love how your bushranger connection has become an education connection, hehe!

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
To Clare - Peter Fogarty again. Hannah Jane Fogarty was the daughter of Charles and Susan Eastwood and I have photos and information of her ancestors. (There is also a book about this too). The book was entitled "Of The Family Of Abraham - The Eastwoods in Dublin Dundalk and Drysdale?"
posted by Peter Fogarty
Hi Peter,

If you are having any trouble with Wikitree, including with editing the profile for Hannah Jane (Eastwood) Fogarty, or with uploading photos, please feel free to email me and I will assist putting photos online.

Best regards,

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Hi Clare, I noted on My Heritage that you have Arthur Henry Spring in your tree. He was the illegitimate son my my great grandmother Sarah Jane Spring, nee Anthony. He was born 2 years after her husband Henry William Spring died in Brisbane in 1884. I have not been able to find information about him other than his birth certificate. Sarah had 5 daughters and one son, James, who was my grandfather. I wondered if Arthur had been adopted and would be very interested if anyone can give me information about him. Sarah's circumstances were very poor as the family arrived only about 9 months before Henry died of cancer aged 34. Her children were put into an orphanage for many years and she had to work very hard to support herself. Any information would be a great help. I doubt anyone in my family knew of Arthur. Elaine Phillips
posted by Elaine Hertweck
Hi Elaine

I haven't been able to find a reference to Arthur Henry Spring in the tree I have on MyHeritage? My research is all on Wikitree, MyHeritage is just a blip that I haven't invested much into..

I did find Arthur on Wikitree, though: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spring-3051, sorry no information beyond the birth record.

Good luck, and if you do find anything I'd be happy to assist adding it to Wikitree!

Best, Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Hi Clare. Just a note to say that links to Victoria BDM search results are session-based and not persistent. For example on John Charles Edney (1862-) it looks as if you have added the link

https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/5f5d57c51e980e23d5bdb9b1

If I click on that, there is an error message "Sorry - our system is experiencing a technical problem. Please try again later. (Error code: { {errorCode} })". This error message is not well expressed! But it arises because the 5f5d57c51e980e23d5bdb9b1 code was specific to your temporary session, and will not work for anyone else (or probably even for you after an hour or two expiry time).

They have accidentally or deliberately designed their system so that there is no ongoing way to link to search results. This is confirmed at this link which says "It is not possible to link to the search results page."

Kind regards—Jim

posted by Jim Richardson
edited by Jim Richardson
Hi Jim, I just moved the link up, so it wasn't a split reference. It wasn't my link, and I know it isn't a good one, but at least the reference is altogether now. I tend to split my Wikitree time between phone time (where I mostly just add categories) and PC time where I add biographies and sources. Normal source format I use is as on this profile.
posted by Clare Spring
Thanks Clare. I missed that you moved the link rather than adding it. On a phone it could be hard to insert a useful link instead (though maybe removing the bad link altogether is an option). The Sisson profile looks good.
posted by Jim Richardson
To Clare - Thank you for your work on the Fogarty's. I'll just inform you that Gertrude May (Drew) Fogarty was born on September Twelve 1894 and died on June Twenty-Six 1988. Again, many thanks for your work - Peter Fogarty. (Grandson of Gertrude).
posted by Peter Fogarty
Hi Claire, thank you so much for all the information you have provided me with regarding my great grand parents William Edward Spring and Ellen Frances MacDonald, we knew very little about Ellen and for some reason assumed she was adopted. You have given my my great great grand parents names. Thank you once again Helen Woods
posted by Helen Woods
Hi, Clare!

Thank you for your participation in October’s 2020 Source-a-thon. Your contributions helped us to clear over 57,000 profiles that needed sourcing. This makes our Shared Tree all that much better.

Keep up the great work!

Pippin Sheppard WikiTree’s Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard
Hi Clare, as per our G2g post https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1111228/australia-project-profile-improvement-maintenance-categories, could you not add any more profiles to the "Victoria needs birth/death/marriage" categories? Many thanks, regards, Margaret
Hi Clare,

Since you manage, or have contributed to, a number of Prentice profiles I invite you to check-out the new One Name Study for the Prentice surname. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Prentice_Name_Study

Best - RP

posted by Ronald Prentice
Hi Ronald

The Prentice profiles I manage are cousins, I haven't (yet?) come across the name in my ancestral lines.

Thanks for your note and good luck with your study, I have had a good go at it with the Spring study and have found it to be a lot of work but worthwhile!

Best,

Clare

posted by Clare Spring
Thanks for bringing me into your tree Clare, this is the first contact I have had from within Wikitree after 6 years, and has kickstarted me into getting more done.

You have done so much work that I can piggy back on.

Murray Wigg.

posted by Murray Wigg
Congratulations Clare
wonderful wikitreer
Clare Spring is a Wonderful WikiTreer.