Sir John Saint Leger was the son of Sir Arnold St Leger, whose own father was also named Arnold.[1][2]
By 1423 John became heir of his cousins, for the lordship of the manor of Ulcombe in Kent.[3]
John married Margery Donnett, heir of the late James Donnett of Sileham (aka Sylham Court), an old local gentry family. As her late father's sole heir, Margery's dowry was considerable and included the manors of Rainham (Kent), Syleham (Suffolk), Pen-Court (Kent), Wildemere and others in Kent and other parts of England. They had 9 children in just 13 years, 5 boys and 4 girls.[4][5]
Sir John was knighted and became the Sheriff of Kent, a position many of his ancestors had also held. Sir John St. Leger died at Ulcombe, Kent, on May 16, 1442. [6] He is buried in All Saints Church, Ulcombe. [7]
John St. Leger (Seyntleger) wrote his will 12 December 1441. He desired to be buried in the church of Vlcumbe (Ulcombe) in the chapel of St. Thomas.[5] He mentioned:
His son Ralph, not yet 21, who would receive the manor of Ulcombe, and tenements there called, Hedecrone, Mapilherste, and Storeye.
His son Thomas, not yet 21, would receive tenements called Rotynge andcalled Parys.
His son Richard.
His three daughters: Florence, Margaret and Alice. Not yet 16 and all unmarried.
His son James, not yet 21, would receive tenements called Silham.
His son Bartholomew, not yet 21, will receive the manors of Eylnothynighton and Eylnothyng-tonesdowne and one tenement called Pendecourte, also tenements in Holyngbourne. '
John and his wife had a memorial in the church of Ulcombe:
"Here lyeth Iohn S. Leger Esquire, and Margerie his wife, sole daughter and heire of Iames Donnet .... 1442..."[8]
Research Notes
Disconnected Daughter: Philippa who was the second wife of John Pympe (died 1454).
The proposal Philippa was a St Leger can be found as a suggestion in a 1909 article.[9] It was based upon the fact that Philippa's son's will names several Dt Legers as "cousins" whose arms should be placed in the Nettlestead church.
There are no primary records which mention such a daughter of Sir John St. Leger and Margaret Donnet. The will of John St. Leger, written 12 December 1441, lists his children and mentions only three daughters, Florence, Margaret and Alice.[5]
In fact, Philippa the second wife of John Pympe is believed to have been born into the Thornbury family of Faversham.[10]
On 26 January 2014, Douglas Richardson replied to a message concerning the connection between the St. Leger family and the Pympe family, saying that the common ancestor was through the Richard Cheyne (Cheyney) family of Shurland, Kent, England.
Richard Cheyne's daughter Margery Cheyne, 1st husband was James Donet (died 1409), Margery Cheyne and James Donet's daughter Margery Donet, married John St. Leger, Esq. of Ulcombe, Kent, (d.1441). Their children: Ralph, Thomas, Richard, James, Bartholomew, Katherine, Florence, Margaret and Alice.
Richard Cheyne and Margaret Cralle' second daughter Isabel Cheyne married John Pympe.[4][11][12]
Anne was also disconnected as a daughter as there are no valid sources connecting her to parents John St Leger and Margery Donnet ~ Thiessen-117 17:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Sources
↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 162-163.
↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 360-361.
↑ Rylands, W. Harry (William Harry), 1847-1922,Benolt, Thomas, d. 1534,Harvey, William, d. 1567,Chitting, Henry, d. 1638,Philipot, John, 1589?-1645,Camden, William, 1551-1623,Ashmole, Elias, 1617-1692,Bysshe, Edward, Sir, 1615?-1679,College of Arms (Great Britain), The four visitations of Berkshire made and taken by Thomas Benolte, Clarenceux anno 1532; p.102-105, https://www.archive.org/stream/fourvisitations00britgoog#page/n122/mode/2up
↑ Robertson, Herbert, Stemmata Robertson et Durdin. Being tables comprising the known ancestors of the children of Herbert Robertson and his wife Helen Alexandrina Melian n Durdin .National Library of Scotland, p. 68-71, ST. LEGER PEDIGREE https://archive.org/stream/stemmatarobertso00robe#page/68/mode/2up
See also:
Royal Ancestry D. Richardson 2013 Vol. V p. 455
"Royal Ancestry" 2013 by Douglas Richardson Vol. IV. page 460 (11.i.a.)
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I think when this profile was protected the picture may have also been protected, when the red lock is clicked on the photo it says it says you cannot customize the privacy level of a photo. It's dependent on the privacy level of the profile.
Hi, I've added a disputed daughter section for Philippa, she appears to have an uncertain existence. Added sources, including the link to John St. Leger's will.
Hi profile managers, the will for John St Leger dated 12 Dec 1441 has been transcribed and is currently on the profile of Philippa St Leger. It names wife Margery and the following children: Ralph, Thomas, Richard, James, Bartholomew and daughters Florence, Margaret and Alice. There is no probate date recorded.
Is anyone able to provide any reliable sources relating to John St Leger's children, particularly daughter Philippa? Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks!
There isn't a primary or scholarly secondary source that names his mother. If no one objects, I'll mark her uncertain (she should probably be disconnected).
daughter, Katherine, spouse of Sir Thomas Milborne. (Source: "Surrey Archaeological Collections," Vol. VIII, by the Surrey Archaeological Society; among other information, details Sir Thomas's will and indicates that Bartholomew St. Leger proved it in 1492. After her husband's death, Katherine became the wife of John Dye.)
How can Katherine be the daughter of John and Margery if John didn't include her in his will? This makes no sense and must be cleared up first. Could Katherine have been illegitimate? Why didn't John leave his daughter anything personal?
Does anyone know a source that names his mother? She is an ancestor of several 'Gateways,' but I haven't seen her listed in any of the books such as PA. Thanks!
I also propose we should disconnect the image because it is for a different family in Devon.
edited by Andrew Lancaster
daughter, Katherine, spouse of Sir Thomas Milborne. (Source: "Surrey Archaeological Collections," Vol. VIII, by the Surrey Archaeological Society; among other information, details Sir Thomas's will and indicates that Bartholomew St. Leger proved it in 1492. After her husband's death, Katherine became the wife of John Dye.)