John
Stanley
Born before in England
Ancestors 
Son of Thomas Stanley KG
and Joan (Goushill) Stanley
Brother of
Elizabeth (Stanley) Molyneux, Katherine (Stanley) Savage, Margaret (Stanley) Grey, William Stanley KG, Thomas Stanley KG and James Stanley
Husband of
Elizabeth (Weever) Done
— married
1445 [location unknown]
Descendants 
Father of
Thomas Stanley, Cecily (Stanley) Venables, Margery (Stanley) Torbock and Anne (Stanley) Ravenscroft
Died before
at about age 46
in England
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Biography
John was a younger son of Thomas Stanley, 1st Lord Stanley and Joan Goushill[1][2][3] (daughter and co-heir of Sir Robert Goushill of Hoveringham, Nottinghamshire[4][5][6]). His birth date is not known. It has been given as before 1440 on the basis of his mother's birth being born in about 1401 and his being a younger son. His parents had lands and interests in several counties and his birthplace is also unknown.
John married Elizabeth Weever, daughter and heir of Thomas Weever of Cheshire and Elizabeth. The right to determine her marriage was granted to John's father in 1445/6[7] so they married after that.[1][2] They had the following children:
- Thomas,[1][2] who was his heir[6]
- John,[1][2] who died without issue[6]
- George[1][2][6]
- Cecily, who married Thomas Venables[1][2][6]
- Margery, who married William Torbock[1][2][6]
- Anne, who married Ralph Ravenscroft[1][2][6]
- Jane/Joan, who married Thomas Hawarden[1][2][6]
- another Cecily, who married Hugh Davenport[1][2]
John's marriage brought him Weever and Over Alderley in Cheshire.[1][2]
John was alive in 1476. He died before 1485.[1][2]
His wife survived him, marrying John Done[8] before 28 June 1487,[1][2] when she was referred to as wife of Sir John Donne in the grant of a lease of a messuage in Cheshire by her and her second husband.[9]
Research Notes
Illegitimate Son John
The 1567 Visitation of Lancashire says that Jane (Stanley) Halsall's father, John Stanley-11004, was "a base sonne of John Stanley brother to the first Erle of Derby" (Thomas Stanley).[10] That would make Jane's father, John Stanley-11004, an illegitimate son of the John Stanley of this profile. This is also the view taken in the 2nd edition of Ormerod's History of Cheshire.[6]
The Victoria County History entry for Melling, Lancashire states that John Stanley-11004, father of Jane Halsall, was heir of the John of this profile.[11] This is doubtful: the John of this profile had three legitimate sons: John, said by Ormerod's History of Cheshire to have died without issue; Thomas, who was his main heir and who had sons of his own, at least one of whom survived him; and George. The suggestion that John Stanley-11004 was his father's heir appears to be based on a supposition that he was not an illegitimate child but was his father's legitimate son John: no good evidence is given for this supposition. A footnote in the Victoria County History entry for Melling recognises that Thomas inherited his father's main property, and this rather contradicts the idea that a son John, legitimate or illegitimate, was the heir.
Not a Knight
John is referred to as a knight on Ormerod's History of Cheshire.[6] There is no evidence he was knighted.[12]
Sources
- ↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. III, pp. 126-127, MANWARING 11, Google Books
- ↑ 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), Vol. IV, p. 25, MANWARING 15
- ↑ Egerton Brydges. Collins's Peerage of England, greatly augmented and continued to the present time, Vol. III, 1812, p. 56, Internet Archive
- ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. IV, pp. 90-91, STANLEY 10, Google Books
- ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, pp. 27-28, STANLEY 14
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 6.6 6.7 6.8 6.9 George Ormerod. The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, 2nd edition (revised by Thomas Helsby), Vol. III, George Routledge and Sons, 1882, p. 577 (pedigree of Stanley of Alderley), Hathi Trust
- ↑ George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, 2nd edition, Vol. III, p. 209, Hathi Trust
- ↑ John Paul Roland's. The Visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580...., Harleian Society, 1882, p.85, Internet Archive
- ↑ Cheshire Archives and Local Studies, ref. DVE/1/M IV/31, National Archives Discovery Centre catalogue entry
- ↑ F R Raines (ed.). The Visitation of the County Palatine of Lancaster made in the year 1567, by William Flower, esq., Chetham Society, 1870, p.94 (Halsall pedigree), Internet Archive
- ↑ 'Townships: Melling', in A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 3, ed. William Farrer and J Brownbill (London, 1907), pp. 208-215, British History Online, accessed 28 July 2022
- ↑ J P Earwaker. East Cheshire, Vol. II, privately printed, 1880. p. 603, Hathi Trust
- See also:
- Dobson, John Blythe. "The Ancestry of Oliver Mainwaring: Stanley (line 1)", web, accessed 11 February 2024
Acknowledgements
Magna Carta Project
- This profile was re-reviewed for the Magna Carta Project by Michael Cayley on 12 February 2024.
- John Stanley appears in Magna Carta Ancestry in a Richardson-documented trail from the Manwaring Gateway Ancestors, Oliver Manwaring and Mary (Mainwaring) Gill, to Magna Carta Surety Baron Saher de Quincy (vol. III, pages 126-129 MANWARING) that was badged in February 2015 by the Magna Carta Project. The Project later identified this profile in other badged trails between the Manwaring Gateways and surety barons Roger le Bigod, Hugh le Bigod, Henry de Bohun, Gilbert de Clare, Richard de Clare, John de Lacy, Saher de Quincy (2nd trail) and Robert de Vere. A trail to surety William Malet was also badged by the Project in July 2022. The trails were re-reviewed in February 2024. They are set out in the Magna Carta Trails section of the Gateway's profile.
- See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".
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The armigerous man is Richard Halsall who bore that Halsall arms with 8 quarters.
In English heraldry the husband (Sir Thomas Halsall) of a heraldic heiress (Jane Stanley) (i.e. a lady without any brothers), the sole daughter and heiress of an illegitmate armigerous man (John Stanley), rather than impaling his wife's paternal arms as is usual, must place her paternal arms in an escutcheon of pretence in the centre of his own shield as a claim ("pretence") to be the new head of his wife's family, now extinct in the male line. In the next generation the arms are quartered by the son (Henry Halsall).
John Stanley added the bendlet sinister to his arms of the ancestral Stanley and impaled his wife, Elizabeth Harrington's arms. It was how Jane Stanley inherited her parents' two arms.
Vis. Lancs.
The bastard John married Elizabeth Harrington, daughter of Sir John Harrington-4299. This novelist's blog discusses her and her sister
Elizabeth Ashworth.